Obv Intuos4 Small = best osu tablet around >:T

d[-_-]b

I don't suppose there's a way to use my cintiq as a regular tablet?
Not that it matters, since I'm too used to mouse now.

I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.

[Cooper] wrote: 201lx

I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.

Same, really really helpful guide.

i have a bamboo third gen..
may i ask something here? can somebody tell me how to save custom preferences for bamboo?
thank you so much.. and sorry for my bad english

If you installed your drivers, you'll find it in the control . "Bamboo preferences".

found it.. thank you so much

I think tablet learning curve is much easier than using mouse. As for mobility the pen is much more lighter and easier for precise control and moving than the mouse. Which one is more tired ?

That's hard for me to say as to whether or not the learning curve is easier. Half the obj is accomplished by keyboard clicks, if you use +kb setups, which don't deffer in execution when switching from mouse to tablet.
It's hard to articulate but some experience even if under one peripheral can somewhat translate to using a a different peripheral, I would think. I'd like to hear experiences from people who started on a tablet and didn't use a mouse on how hard it was for them.

I'd say mouse is hard on your wrist and also your, thumb, pinky, and ring finger depending on how much you claw grip. Also tiring up your arm if use a low sensitivity.
Pen is a killer of fingers if you heavily claw grip. Wrist hurts on full proportions when you try to move your wrist as to not have to move your arm.
Can't say definitively yet.

I have the first generation Bamboo Fun. Bought it in late 2008 for around $100 and it's still going strong! If anything ever happens to it, I might try the second generation Bamboo Fun. Great guide, by the way! (:

good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!

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I have dusty intous4 laying around here somewhere... The responsiveness is much higher than any other tablet I've ever tried. Hardly a sign of any 'squary' movements when hovering.

Expensive as hell, though xD

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.

jianzii wrote: 5z3z6h

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.

I'm seriously thinking about buying a tablet, I'm sick of using mouse >_>
The problem is, I don't know how much it costs here D:
Any brazillian players around? ):

I just checked it... It costs around 200 to 300 bucks... Thanks for answering =3=

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

jianzii wrote: 5z3z6h

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.

Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?

Raynor_senpai wrote: 2h4t4l

good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!

Connect is okay to play osu!, but if you think Capture's features will be useful in other things for you like it was for me then buy it, it's only 20$ more expensive.

I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!

kingking9 wrote: 3x1z4g

I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.

Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?

Yup. The first nib is still good until now.
My favourite part of Genius graphic tablets is the area config.

Genius tablets aren't worth it, in my opinion.

They're priced fairly close to their Wacom counterparts in of size - close enough that it's often not worth sacrificing the quality of the product to save a few bucks.

It's very much a case of "you get what you pay for" - Wacom is the name brand here, and is almost unanimously favored by artists because of the quality of the product you receive (with some misgivings for the 1st gen Bamboo Fun). Genius tablets certainly are an option, but I can't really recommend them in comparison to Wacom.

It's worth noting that nearly all tablets share the basic options needed for osu - that is, sensitive area configuration and a "pen", or absolute tracking mode.

Unkind wrote: 642b3v

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on

I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...

But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet

I think I'm gonna get a Wacom bamboo connect >.<

I've just bought a Wacom CTF-420, it's awesome.

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet

why dont you look for it in singapore? i've seen a lot of tablets over there.. and indonesia is right beside singapore

kingking9 wrote: 3x1z4g

Unkind wrote: 642b3v

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on

I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...

Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical instead.

AliceSuyeong wrote: 5dy68

Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical instead.

The only way the cursor can feel "slow" is coz of input lag, caused by something (aero + windowed mode on osu! does that)

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?

omg wacom totemo lied to me. They was like NO! you can't use older gen pens on newer gen tablets. So I raged at osu! playing some map and broke my new gen tablet pen, only to find an older gen tablet pen and IT POOTIN' WORKED. Damn wacom you LIED TO ME T_T

/me cries in a corner.

rofl Yoda.

Great tablet purchasing guide. I use an intuos3 and my tablet has been working just as new for the past 5 or so years that I've used it for art and osu! (2 years+). I hover except for when I spin and the only noticeable wear is just the tiny area in the middle where I spin. My pen is great. Keyboard has not broken either.

I agree with everything Daru recommended. SS would read again.

Kennjin wrote: ot1z

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?

There are many top players who use mouse. Don't be discouraged.

I think I might switch from my Intuos4 to a Bamboo Pen. I'm finding that I don't really do any art anymore, so my tablet is basically just an Osu! input device.

I just wanted to say that Thanks to this article I have decided to buy the Bamboo connect instead of going with some cheaper art tablet.

I get it in tomorrow and I can not wait to start learning tablet. I hope it only takes me a few hours to get used to Like how it did when i was learning arcade stick for the first time.

So many people buy tablets to play osu.
I think tablet companies should pay peppy for increasing their sales

You can osu! while buying a tablet by using my amazon links .

These are my two recommendations from a price, size and quality perspective:

Wacom Bamboo Splash Pen Tablet ($66.99)
Wacom Bamboo Capture Pen and Touch Tablet ($89.99)

If you have any other amazon fulfilled tablets you want to buy, I can create links for those too.

Just thinking, can you add links that work with the European version of Amazon, too? Those won't work for me, guess it's because of the company split EU/US/Asia

Not too sure if that works with referral links.

Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?

MxG PhiLL wrote: jq4v

Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?

Seems like no.
P.S. Happy 5 Birthday Osu!

Oh, that sucks. I thought you could, because i saw some live plays by Rucker and apparently he uses gen 2 tablet with gen 3 pen. Go figure.

I'm not sure about it, just googled. Try to Wacom tech or PM Rucker.

Bamboo + intous are the best tablets all of them works, all you need is training with them so .

(using a Wacom intous 4 with a small area 1/4 of the size)

I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!

xann wrote: 461l6b

I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!

If you activate a circle when you press down you can fix that, i googled a bit and found out that you have to disable a think in W7 and the ring got removed. it basicly it right klicks everytime you press it down.

nah, I already fixed all that, thanks for the thought though
with the delay I meant that it reacts perfectly, I read that tablets have a standard delay, but I don't notice it. p:

Hello,
Lucky me I already had a tablet (the Trust Slimline Sketch tablet) when I discovered Osu!. However, it is a very cheap tablet and I wonder if I should keep it, for some reasons:

Even if the tablet is large enough with a good accuracy, the pen contains 2 AAA batteries which makes it big and heavy, and it sometimes opens itself.
The pen is made in a plastic material that gets slippy in my hand after 1min of non-intensive use, is it my fault ?
The hoovering gets regularly buggy (immobile pointer) and I need to click on the tablet to make it work (even with new batteries). This made me ragequit many maps.
I feel a lack of reactivity, but I may be wrong on this point.

I just can't seem to find any decent review of this tablet so does anyone knows something about it ?
Since I may use the tablet for other graphic applications, I'm considering buying real Wacom stuff, there are plenty of people who sell their tablets (that they almost never used) cheaper than the official price.

It's probably too old to have a decent review of it.
I would buy a new tablet, playing with a broken/old one is hell.
If you're going to buy another tablet then keep in mind that buying a used one is risky, it could be old and have a massive delay. I had a 7 year old tablet that I never used before, after all that time I started using it but it had a delay of like 1/10th of a second. You could buy a tablet for half the price of a new one, but paying that extra ensures warranty and quality in my opinion.
Whatever you choose to do, stay with Wacom.

Thanks for your answer. I was rather thinking of buying a used Bamboo Fun/Pen/Pen&touch. Some people buy one for no solid reason, use it for 2h and then try to get rid of it, most of the time 20-30% cheaper. I'd just like to keep the same area I have now, without paying too much. But I'll go for a Wacom obviously ^^

I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)

BRBP wrote: 4pd23

You don't happen to know if it's possible to adjust the tablet area, do you? (I couldn't get it working).

I didn't have any trouble changing the area, if the "Trust Tablet Control " doesn't install automatically you can it on their website.
It looks like this with me


I guess Wacom totally owns this market

Wacom also doesn't automatically install, but it comes with a driver software CD.
A vitally important feature Wacom products have is "Force proportions" which forces your area to have the same proportions as your screen resolution.

There is nothing to say about the software for this tablet. The "force proportions" option exists ("rapport d'écran" in french, for "screen ratio"), and many customizable parameters too. The only matter is the quality of the tablet itself

Sorry, I have another question now ^^
I can find a bamboo Pen&Touch for 50€ approximatively, and a bamboo Connect (pen only) for 60€.
Is it really worth buying the newest wacom generation ? It is more expensive and it doesn't feature the touch usage, so is it balanced by an improvement in the quality, the stylus, durability, etc ? (I keep in mind that I may use it for occasional drawings)

The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.

Elysion wrote: 5k76k

The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.

I read that it was only more precise for the pressure levels of the stylus (1024, like the intuos4), and not for spacial precision. I do care about pressure levels but intuos4 is for professionals, I don't really need that :/

I'm talking about spacial precision too. For 10 more €, it's worth it.

They have the same resolution and the same active area, how could it be more precise ?

I have no idea, it just is. Try it out somewhere if you don't believe me, you'll see.

will work on samsung galaxy tab? :\

FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control. Its high density count is purely for graphic applications that utilize absolute position data (Not cursor position) for example like drawing a very small circle on a 12,000px x 9000px canvas thats fitting inside a 1920x1080 screen the circle would look like a pixel when drawn on the monitor but if you zoom in it will be a small circle in retrospect its just to pick up the finer things.

ann wrote: 1215l

I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)

I proudly use a 12 year old tablet just fine thank you very much

RBRat3 wrote: 11c4c

FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control.

These are my tablet's settings. 0.95 x 0.6 = 0.57 sq inches. My skill hasn't reach yet the limits of the tablet and it still feels really responsive and smooth. And it's just a Trust Mini Tablet, which costs around 20€, not an expensive Wacom tablet.

Of course, I'm still far from being a top Osu! player (actually I consider myself a newbie), but since I've bought my tablet 2 months ago (when I've hit a brick wall playing with a mouse around rank #12000) I'm using these settings and I'm now at rank ~#2000 and the tablet still keeps up with my speed, while I'm still improving day by day in a noticeable pace.

Anyway, I don't know if a Wacom tablet makes a difference at top ranks, but until now I haven't felt the need for a better tablet. And I still can increase my active area if I experience any problems with the tablet's accuracy. So, my opinion thus far is that lpi doesn't matter for Osu!, even while using a small active area.

Just my 2c.

That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.

RBRat3 wrote: 11c4c

That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.

My point was that lpi doesn't matter for Osu! regardless the tablet (from my experience). Maybe I didn't express myself correctly, but I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I just quoted you as a prologue to what I wanted to say.

Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide

Kennjin wrote: ot1z

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?

Yeah, if you practice enough, you can... see how Silvia plays: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/u/silvia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_iFMpiqlkQ

i have the exactly same tablet of the second generation one yet my pen kind of teleports on the game sometime. but besides that its great to play with

UltimateZio wrote: 2n3xt

Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide

I've used different kinds of Wacom tablets and I can tell you that most tablets will function pretty much the same in osu! and you shouldn't worry about it. The only palpable differences would be the tablet's size, dimensions, and durability, all of which you can get used to or touch up in the tablet's properties tab. Other than that (i.e. buttons, pressure features, different kinds of nibs) shouldn't affect you unless you use Wacom products for digital art.

Is this a good tablet for playing osu?

intuos4 small, best

DieOrYouWillDie wrote: 6z182u

Is this a good tablet for playing osu?

I have this, and yes I do believe it is the cheapest Wacom product in the current line and is good for osu!

If your looking for a cheap osu tablet, the following is a great choice: http://www.amazon.com/uDraw-Game-tablet ... ords=udraw

If you buy the ps3 version, you can install drivers that allow you to use it as a mouse on PC. (here http://brandonw.net/udraw/ ) It works perfectly, and though I am shit tier at osu, [ Depression ] was able to use it as well (roommates) and was able to do well with it. Of course we each have wacom tablets, which are obviously better than this cheap tablet.

Oh yea, its $12.

Worth it if you've ever wanted to try out a tablet.

Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks

Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.

Phantasyy wrote: 454f1f

Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks

To all those asking the same question
All GEN pen's are only compatible with the tablet they're made for

Kanye West wrote: o21

Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.

They have quite a bit of input lag, so I don't know how viable it is. Maybe if you set the universal offset just right.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.

Bamboo manga is it ok for playing osu?

Gnarwhally wrote: 2d3f4u

Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.

Just because its not Wacom doesn't mean its shit and worthless. Just get used to it for now yeah.

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?

faggotfaggot wrote: 132f39

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?

It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.

Gnarwhally wrote: 2d3f4u

faggotfaggot wrote: 132f39

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?

It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.

Alright thanks a lot, you saved me 20$ as a student

I live in europe, and I cant buy the Splash or other products that were in OP's topic,

So my question is :

Is the Bamboo Pen and Touch as good as the 99 dollar equivalent Bamboo or is it totally different?
Also what is the difference between the Pen and touch and the Fun S pen and touch?

http://nl.shop.wacom.eu/Producten/Bamboo

Thanks in regards

I purchased a 'Bamboo Pen' tablet yesterday. I hope it arrives soon!

It arrived! but I'm currently staying at my boyfriend's, so I won't be able to try it out until Saturday. I can post what I think about the tablet then if anyone is interested in buying that model.

What a wonderful guide explaining tablets! I may consider buying a tablet

I've been using my tablet for a couple of days now and it hasn't exactly been a pleasant experience, I find it very difficult to get used to (which is understandable) and I've been noticing the cursor gets jittery when the pen nib comes into light or quick with the tablet. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.

anyone know how this would fare?
http://dx.com/p/huion-usb-graphics-draw ... x-5-118085

I should save my money for a tablet now...

I just recent;y purchased a Bamboo Pen & Touch 3rd Gen (I think it's a Connect).

It is my first time using something like this so bear with me... I'm not certain whether i should be hovering over the touchpad when playing a map or dragging with the pen and what is the ideal playing area on the touchpad.

Any experienced s with time to help out will be much appreciated thanks

LLOsu wrote: 3t5d36

I just recent;y purchased a Bamboo Pen & Touch 3rd Gen (I think it's a Connect).

It is my first time using something like this so bear with me... I'm not certain whether i should be hovering over the touchpad when playing a map or dragging with the pen and what is the ideal playing area on the touchpad.

Any experienced s with time to help out will be much appreciated thanks

Hover, it might feel weird for a bit but it is very worth it. Allows you to move faster and puts less wear and tear on your tablet/pen nibs.

I guess you have a point, just the fact that using a pen from using a mouse is a massive step got to have wrist movements and i've always had problems holding pens weirdly as a child

Just a few games using it is tough to get used, i guess practice makes perfect!

does anyone have any clue when a new bamboo tablet model might be coming out? prediction that is. it's been a while since the latest generation came out.

theowest wrote: 4f5b4v

does anyone have any clue when a new bamboo tablet model might be coming out? prediction that is. it's been a while since the latest generation came out.

A little ambitious for the same 10 year old tablet in a new wrapper

They'll push another one out when they find a decent whistle & bell to bolt onto it. It was mostly about wireless this time around.

Does anyone write with their left hand but use their mouse with the right? Or vice-versa. Because I do, and I'm unsure of whether to get a tablet. My rhythm sucks with my right hand, so pressing Z/X is going to be difficult if I have to use the stylus with my left hand. For those that have a different mouse-hand to their pen-hand, which hand do you use your tablet stylus with?

Sorry if that's confusing, I don't think I can word it any better.

nice guide :O

Will I be able to hover my pen with the bamboo splash?

by hovering I meant around 1cm