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Introduction

If you've been playing osu! and chatting with other players, you're bound to hear about so-called "tablets", and their effects on gameplay in osu!. Tablets are pads that operate with a stylus that connect to your computer. As you hover the pen around above the pad, the mouse cursor moves with the pen, and tapping the pen clicks the mouse. You can think of a tablet for osu! in the same way as you think of an arcade stick for fighting games - not necessary, but some players prefer it.

Their original purpose is to allow a greater degree of control in digital art applications, allowing the to draw or paint on the computer as if they were using a pencil or paintbrush. The biggest difference that a tablet has over a mouse is that it features absolute tracking. This means that every point on the tablet corresponds to a particular point on the screen. If you lift the pen outside of the sensitive range, then put it down on another part of the tablet, the cursor will "jump" to that location. This is opposed to mice, which rely on relative tracking.

The biggest selling point of tablets for osu! is this absolute tracking - every other parameter such as pressure levels, tilt sensitivity, barrel rotation, etc. will have no effect on your osu! gameplay. These features are for digital art, where the tablet can sense things such as pressure you're applying, and make a darker pencil mark, for example. The only specification which may affect your osu! gameplay is "lpi", or "lines per inch". This is essentially the "resolution" of the tablet surface, or how little you have to move for the tablet to detect it. If a tablet has 100 lpi, then you have to move at least 1/100th of an inch for it to movement. However, even the lowest lpi should be far higher than any monitor that you're likely to play on, so higher numbers have a mostly unnoticeable effect on gameplay.


In short: Tablets are an optional device to let you play the game in a different way. They were originally intended for digital art, but happen to work very well with osu!, and most specifications will make no difference in osu!.



Types of Tablets

Wacom is the "brand name" of tablets - tablets are all they make, and they're widely accepted (by artists) as producing the best quality, most reliable tablets. I recommend buying from Wacom because of their reputation as producing high-quality products as a leader in the tablet world. They produce three main lines:

Cintiq - "Draw directly on the screen" tablets, these are used in very high-end professional applications, and cost a pretty penny.
Intuos - The Professional line of tablets, these have features above and beyond the Bamboo line, but lack a screen.
Bamboo - The general consumer line of tablets, these come cheap with all the features you need to get started as a hobbyist.

There are other lines, such as the Graphire or Volito tablets, but these names have been discontinued, replaced by the above lines.

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos - these two lines cater to professional in graphic design and illustration, and cost much more than the tablets in the Bamboo line. They feature increased pressure sensitivity, more bundled graphics software, and advanced features such as barrel rotation or tilt sensitivity. These mean nothing in osu!, so only buy one of these if you're planning on using your tablet for serious graphic design work outside of osu!.

At the time of writing there are three versions of the Bamboo, all confusingly under the same "Bamboo" moniker (The Intuos lines are distinguished by number - Intuos5 is the latest at the time of writing). I would recommend either buying the second or third generation Bamboos - the first generation Bamboo tablets had the extra buttons on the top of the tablet rather than the side, which makes them awkward for use in osu!.

[spoilerboxx]First generation Bamboo (Pen and Touch, Touch, and Fun - Bamboo Fun shown)


Second generation Bamboo (Pen and Touch, Pen, Touch, Fun, and Craft - Bamboo Pen and Touch shown)


Third generation Bamboo (Connect, Capture, Create - Connect shown)
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You'll want to stay away from either of the Bamboo Touch tablets - they do not feature pen input, they're just multitouch trackpads for your computer. Frankly, Apple did it better.

The other Bamboo models come in two sizes - basically small and large. For the second generation, Bamboo Touch, Pen, and Pen and Touch were the "small" ones, whereas the Fun and Craft were the "large" ones. For the third generation, the Connect and Capture are the "small", whereas the Create is the "large". For osu!, you'll probably be looking at getting one of the "small" sized tablets because it's a common strategy to reduce play area so that you don't have to move your arm when you play. However, it's personal preference as to whether or not you want a larger tablet area, and it's especially worth considering the "large" size if you are also into digital art; drawing is much more comfortable on a larger tablet.

So, here are my recommend options -
Second Generation - Bamboo Pen for small size, Bamboo Fun for large size.
Third Generation - Bamboo Connect for small size , Bamboo Create for large size.

At the time of writing, the "Small" sized tablets hover around $70, and the "Large" size Bamboos hover at around $170.
Of course, these prices will change slightly day to day on Amazon - the Wacom site has the Bamboo Connect listed at $79 and the Bamboo Create at $199.

Here's some links to purchase the latest models from Amazon. If you buy using these links, you will be helping osu! :).
Wacom Bamboo Splash Pen Tablet ($66.99)
Wacom Bamboo Capture Pen and Touch Tablet ($89.99)

Lastly, Intuos3 tablets can be had for very cheap on second-hand sites like eBay or Craigslist, and are definitely worth checking out if you're also going to be doing digital art as well. For osu!, however, the differences between the Intuos and Bamboo lines are negligible - the only real difference is that the Intuos lines have a much wider range of sizes than is available for Bamboo. I personally use a 9x12" Intuos3 for my art, and it still works like new after more than 4 years now.

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.



In Conclusion:

I hope this guide has cleared up some questions you may have about those tablets you've heard about and want to buy. These are only suggestions, however - there are certainly other brands out there that are cheaper than Wacom's tablets, but having tried tablets like the Mousepen, I would definitely say that you get what you pay for in of quality. Also, if you notice any mistakes in anything I've said here, or have anything to add, please say so in the comments.

I'll try to update this guide as new models come out to reflect changes in recommendations.

Good luck!
I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.

Changed my mind. Going to get one.

Zelmarked wrote: 6c6u

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
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I use a bamboo with a very small active area. I have never used it for anything outside of osu! so naturally there would be areas (the active area and where I rest my hand) that would experience more wear. You can see this as it turns from matte (unused) to glossy (most used), will this affect the functionality of my tablet? I'm assuming your tablet is like that since you have used it for four years, but as mentioned works like new, so am I only wearing away at the aesthetic value?
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FruitTingles wrote: 3n1v4x

I use a bamboo with a very small active area. I have never used it for anything outside of osu! so naturally there would be areas (the active area and where I rest my hand) that would experience more wear. You can see this as it turns from matte (unused) to glossy (most used), will this affect the functionality of my tablet? I'm assuming your tablet is like that since you have used it for four years, but as mentioned works like new, so am I only wearing away at the aesthetic value?
The overlay sheets and pen nibs are made to be replaceable. If you run your fingernail along the side, you can lift it up and remove it to replace it. The only difference that you'll see from the more worn areas is a different "feel" when the pen draws over it. It'll feel a bit more slippery, especially if you're using a second or third generation bamboo with the textured overlay sheet.

The tablet's working bits are all on the inside, and have nothing to do with the of the pen on the tablet surface. If you place a piece of cardboard on the tablet and then start to draw, it will still work. The overlay sheet is just a piece of plastic, and so are the tablet nibs.


(My overlay sheet actually has gashes and holes in it... They're pretty expensive so I'm looking for a cheap material that has the same feel, though in the mean time the only difference I feel is the occasional small bump when the pen runs over a scratch or holel. Protip for the pen nibs, you can use plastic wire from a weed whacker that's the same diameter of the nib for a cheap, effective replacement.)
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. I knew the nibs could be replaced because I had to insert one when I initially got it but I didn't know about the overlay sheet. The "feel" shouldn't be an issue because the only time my pen s the pad is when I change songs haha.
Great guide

Daru wrote: 11852

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<

Sander-Don wrote: 3y40d

Daru wrote: 11852

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<
I used intous 4 /o/ lool
ShangMing_old

Zelmarked wrote: 6c6u

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
I can't reason buying a hockey stick at their prices to do better at that one sport. I can't reason buying a pair of running shoes at that price just to do better at running. etc. etc.

Maybe once you stop being a noob or closed minded, you wouldn't make such idiotic comments. Also, when you say "no offense", that pretty much says that you know that your comment was going to be offensive.

ShangMing wrote: 5d2h33

Zelmarked wrote: 6c6u

I can't reason buying a peripheral at that price to do better for one application. I have no interest in pursuing digital art. I'd buy a joystick so I can have better control in the multitude of games involving flying; makes sense. But I can't see any application of a tablet outside of Osu!. No offense to those more dedicated to the game.

Good guide. Very thorough.
I can't reason buying a hockey stick at their prices to do better at that one sport. I can't reason buying a pair of running shoes at that price just to do better at running. etc. etc.

Maybe once you stop being a noob or closed minded, you wouldn't make such idiotic comments. Also, when you say "no offense", that pretty much says that you know that your comment was going to be offensive.
My preference to not buy a object for one particular app is offense? I typed no offense because obviously there exist those who care about doing really good at one thing over others. "I", as I typed, do not.
Great guide! I wouldn't recommend buying a tablet just for osu! since it doesn't make alotta difference when you practice enough, and it's expensive. I'd say don't give up on mousing too early and don't be fooled by statements as "all good players are tablet players".

Ofcourse if you're very dedicated to the game, wouldn't mind missing some money and would like to try tabletting, by all means do get one \o/
Great guide, changed to sticky.
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Sander-Don wrote: 3y40d

Daru wrote: 11852

For osu!, you are very unlikely to need a Cintiq or Intuos
I use an intuos 3. :<
Haha, so do I. :)

Of course, I use my Intuos 3 for art as well, where it is a significant improvement upon the Bamboo. Strictly for osu!, however, the Intuos3 won't be any better than a Bamboo.
I had my Intuos 3 stolen a while back, and went to mouse, then to a bamboo, I can proudly say there is no difference while playing Osu!.
Drawing, on the other hand...
Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote: 11852

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
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Maav wrote: 1h25x

Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote: 11852

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
I say "give no real advantage" with respect with the price. The small bamboo can be had for $70, whereas Cintiqs start at $1000. I feel that it's very hard to justify buying a Cintiq if you're going to use it for only osu! at this price difference. Furthermore, the advantages of playing on a screen are, for some, countered by the disadvantage of having your hand and arm covering a good bit of your play area, so I don't think it's right to say that Cintiqs are objectively better than the tablets without screens. From my personal experience I've found this disadvantage to be very significant (I've played osu! on a friend's 12" Cintiq, as well as Tablet PCs).

As for getting things from relatives, note that this is a tablet purchase guide. ;)
I'm trying to weigh price relative to functionality in osu!, and paying upwards of $1000 for a device that you're only going to use for osu! would be, in my opinion, a complete waste of money.

Though, thanks for the input. :)
Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a GOOD tablet go for BAMBOO CONNECT (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 3 tablets was the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 2nd and 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 1or 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio (AR) 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me. This is very helpful because you can decide your area with numerical values.

EDIT

Active areas for tablets
you obtain the aspect ration in full area dividing long by high

Intuos4 = 6.2" x 3.9" in AR= 1.59
2nd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61
3rd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61

so as you can see, all wacom tablets*were made for AR 16:10, consider this to play in a good "rectangular proportion" ingame, you shouldn't try to introduce a square into a rectangle, that's why AR is sooo important.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)

nVidi4x wrote: 2yh26

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?

LnDSuv wrote: 11122v

nVidi4x wrote: 2yh26

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
Pen and touch just has a feature where you can use your finger.
Buy the pen.

LnDSuv wrote: 11122v

I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
I edited the info, all tablets were made for ar 16:10.
Pen and Touch is White and (just) Pen is Black.
Touch must be disable to play osu well, but is the same tablet, it has the same spech techs. just buy the color that u want :)
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Actually the older tablets are 4:3. ;)
Basically everything before the Bamboo tablets are 4:3, and most everything after is 16:10. There is still a Cintiq that's 4:3, I believe. My intuos3 is 9x12", or 4:3.

I didn't put any info about actually playing with a tablet because that would require a thread in and of itself, I think - this is strictly a purchase guide that weighs the various benefits of certain tablets against the prices, plus some basic info.

@LnDSuv:
The majority of monitors nowadays are 16:9, though most "art" class monitors that focus on color reproduction above all else are 16:10, which is part of the reason why the tablets are made in that aspect ratio. I'd personally recommend remapping it to have 1:1 vertical:horizontal movement, even if it means you're cutting off a bit of the active area to do so. My tablet is 4:3, but I have a 16:10 monitor, so there's a slice at the bottom that's not used.

The difference between Pen&Touch and Pen models is really just the "touch" function. I really don't think it's worth it, but that's just from my personal experience.

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Oh, and to answer that question from a while ago about overlay sheets...

I've found that a piece of plexiglass cut to the correct dimensions, then sanded down with very fine sandpaper (600+ grit) makes for a suitable, cheap replacement for your overlay sheet. The sheet can then be adhered to the tablet with some double-sided tape. It's quite a bit thicker than the regular sheet, which is the only drawback, but you can get decently sized pieces for under $4, which is much cheaper than Wacom's $30 replacement sheets.
From what I know about graphic tablets, I would highly recomment to get the Capture instead of the Connect.

Bamboo Connect sure is enough to play osu!, but there is only a 20$ difference between this and the Capture, and you get multi-touch, programmable buttons and Photoshop Elements. At first, I bought my Capture thinking ing it to play osu!, but later I found that multi-touch gestures are far more ergonomic for navigating than the mouse, which I use only in games now.

The presence of PSE in the software bundle makes it also a far better deal.
Obv Intuos4 Small = best osu tablet around >:T
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I don't suppose there's a way to use my cintiq as a regular tablet?
Not that it matters, since I'm too used to mouse now.
I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.

[Cooper] wrote: 201lx

I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.
Same, really really helpful guide.
i have a bamboo third gen..
may i ask something here? can somebody tell me how to save custom preferences for bamboo?
thank you so much.. and sorry for my bad english :(
If you installed your drivers, you'll find it in the control . "Bamboo preferences".
found it.. thank you so much :D
I think tablet learning curve is much easier than using mouse. As for mobility the pen is much more lighter and easier for precise control and moving than the mouse. Which one is more tired ?
That's hard for me to say as to whether or not the learning curve is easier. Half the obj is accomplished by keyboard clicks, if you use +kb setups, which don't deffer in execution when switching from mouse to tablet.
It's hard to articulate but some experience even if under one peripheral can somewhat translate to using a a different peripheral, I would think. I'd like to hear experiences from people who started on a tablet and didn't use a mouse on how hard it was for them.

I'd say mouse is hard on your wrist and also your, thumb, pinky, and ring finger depending on how much you claw grip. Also tiring up your arm if use a low sensitivity.
Pen is a killer of fingers if you heavily claw grip. Wrist hurts on full proportions when you try to move your wrist as to not have to move your arm.
Can't say definitively yet.
I have the first generation Bamboo Fun. Bought it in late 2008 for around $100 and it's still going strong! If anything ever happens to it, I might try the second generation Bamboo Fun. Great guide, by the way! (:
good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Layne_old_1
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I have dusty intous4 laying around here somewhere... The responsiveness is much higher than any other tablet I've ever tried. Hardly a sign of any 'squary' movements when hovering.

Expensive as hell, though xD
Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.

jianzii wrote: 5z3z6h

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
G a r u d a
I'm seriously thinking about buying a tablet, I'm sick of using mouse >_>
The problem is, I don't know how much it costs here D:
Any brazillian players around? ):
G a r u d a
I just checked it... It costs around 200 to 300 bucks... Thanks for answering =3=

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

jianzii wrote: 5z3z6h

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?

Raynor_senpai wrote: 2h4t4l

good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Connect is okay to play osu!, but if you think Capture's features will be useful in other things for you like it was for me then buy it, it's only 20$ more expensive.
I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!

kingking9 wrote: 3x1z4g

I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!
why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on

Matoryoshika wrote: 29681r

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?
Yup. The first nib is still good until now.
My favourite part of Genius graphic tablets is the area config.
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Genius tablets aren't worth it, in my opinion.

They're priced fairly close to their Wacom counterparts in of size - close enough that it's often not worth sacrificing the quality of the product to save a few bucks.

It's very much a case of "you get what you pay for" - Wacom is the name brand here, and is almost unanimously favored by artists because of the quality of the product you receive (with some misgivings for the 1st gen Bamboo Fun). Genius tablets certainly are an option, but I can't really recommend them in comparison to Wacom.

It's worth noting that nearly all tablets share the basic options needed for osu - that is, sensitive area configuration and a "pen", or absolute tracking mode.

Unkind wrote: 642b3v

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
I think I'm gonna get a Wacom bamboo connect >.<
I've just bought a Wacom CTF-420, it's awesome.

AeroRange wrote: 6w6m2t

But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
why dont you look for it in singapore? i've seen a lot of tablets over there.. and indonesia is right beside singapore
AliceSuyeong

kingking9 wrote: 3x1z4g

Unkind wrote: 642b3v

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical instead.

AliceSuyeong wrote: 5dy68

Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical instead.
The only way the cursor can feel "slow" is coz of input lag, caused by something (aero + windowed mode on osu! does that)
Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
omg wacom totemo lied to me. They was like NO! you can't use older gen pens on newer gen tablets. So I raged at osu! playing some map and broke my new gen tablet pen, only to find an older gen tablet pen and IT POOTIN' WORKED. Damn wacom you LIED TO ME T_T

/me cries in a corner.
rofl Yoda.

Great tablet purchasing guide. I use an intuos3 and my tablet has been working just as new for the past 5 or so years that I've used it for art and osu! (2 years+). I hover except for when I spin and the only noticeable wear is just the tiny area in the middle where I spin. My pen is great. :D Keyboard has not broken either.

I agree with everything Daru recommended. SS would read again.


Kennjin wrote: ot1z

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
There are many top players who use mouse. Don't be discouraged. :)
I think I might switch from my Intuos4 to a Bamboo Pen. I'm finding that I don't really do any art anymore, so my tablet is basically just an Osu! input device.
I just wanted to say that Thanks to this article I have decided to buy the Bamboo connect instead of going with some cheaper art tablet.

I get it in tomorrow and I can not wait to start learning tablet. I hope it only takes me a few hours to get used to Like how it did when i was learning arcade stick for the first time.
So many people buy tablets to play osu.
I think tablet companies should pay peppy for increasing their sales :)
You can osu! while buying a tablet by using my amazon links :).

These are my two recommendations from a price, size and quality perspective:

Wacom Bamboo Splash Pen Tablet ($66.99)
Wacom Bamboo Capture Pen and Touch Tablet ($89.99)

If you have any other amazon fulfilled tablets you want to buy, I can create links for those too.
Just thinking, can you add links that work with the European version of Amazon, too? Those won't work for me, guess it's because of the company split EU/US/Asia
Not too sure if that works with referral links.
PhiLL A
Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?

MxG PhiLL wrote: jq4v

Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?
SPOILER
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101104194514AA2IZm8
Seems like no.
P.S. Happy 5 Birthday Osu!
PhiLL A
Oh, that sucks. I thought you could, because i saw some live plays by Rucker and apparently he uses gen 2 tablet with gen 3 pen. Go figure.
I'm not sure about it, just googled. Try to Wacom tech or PM Rucker.
Bamboo + intous are the best tablets all of them works, all you need is training with them so .

(using a Wacom intous 4 with a small area 1/4 of the size)
ann_old
I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!

xann wrote: 461l6b

I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!
If you activate a circle when you press down you can fix that, i googled a bit and found out that you have to disable a think in W7 and the ring got removed. it basicly it right klicks everytime you press it down.
ann_old
nah, I already fixed all that, thanks for the thought though :)
with the delay I meant that it reacts perfectly, I read that tablets have a standard delay, but I don't notice it. p:
Hello,
Lucky me I already had a tablet (the Trust Slimline Sketch tablet) when I discovered Osu!. However, it is a very cheap tablet and I wonder if I should keep it, for some reasons:

Even if the tablet is large enough with a good accuracy, the pen contains 2 AAA batteries which makes it big and heavy, and it sometimes opens itself.
The pen is made in a plastic material that gets slippy in my hand after 1min of non-intensive use, is it my fault ? :(
The hoovering gets regularly buggy (immobile pointer) and I need to click on the tablet to make it work (even with new batteries). This made me ragequit many maps.
I feel a lack of reactivity, but I may be wrong on this point.

I just can't seem to find any decent review of this tablet so does anyone knows something about it ?
Since I may use the tablet for other graphic applications, I'm considering buying real Wacom stuff, there are plenty of people who sell their tablets (that they almost never used) cheaper than the official price.
ann_old
It's probably too old to have a decent review of it.
I would buy a new tablet, playing with a broken/old one is hell.
If you're going to buy another tablet then keep in mind that buying a used one is risky, it could be old and have a massive delay. I had a 7 year old tablet that I never used before, after all that time I started using it but it had a delay of like 1/10th of a second. You could buy a tablet for half the price of a new one, but paying that extra ensures warranty and quality in my opinion.
Whatever you choose to do, stay with Wacom. ;)
Thanks for your answer. I was rather thinking of buying a used Bamboo Fun/Pen/Pen&touch. Some people buy one for no solid reason, use it for 2h and then try to get rid of it, most of the time 20-30% cheaper. I'd just like to keep the same area I have now, without paying too much. But I'll go for a Wacom obviously ^^
ann_old
I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)
:oops:

BRBP wrote: 4pd23

You don't happen to know if it's possible to adjust the tablet area, do you? (I couldn't get it working).
I didn't have any trouble changing the area, if the "Trust Tablet Control " doesn't install automatically you can it on their website.
It looks like this with me


I guess Wacom totally owns this market 8-)
ann_old
Wacom also doesn't automatically install, but it comes with a driver software CD.
A vitally important feature Wacom products have is "Force proportions" which forces your area to have the same proportions as your screen resolution.
There is nothing to say about the software for this tablet. The "force proportions" option exists ("rapport d'écran" in french, for "screen ratio"), and many customizable parameters too. The only matter is the quality of the tablet itself
Sorry, I have another question now ^^
I can find a bamboo Pen&Touch for 50€ approximatively, and a bamboo Connect (pen only) for 60€.
Is it really worth buying the newest wacom generation ? It is more expensive and it doesn't feature the touch usage, so is it balanced by an improvement in the quality, the stylus, durability, etc ? (I keep in mind that I may use it for occasional drawings)
The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.

Elysion wrote: 5k76k

The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.
I read that it was only more precise for the pressure levels of the stylus (1024, like the intuos4), and not for spacial precision. I do care about pressure levels but intuos4 is for professionals, I don't really need that :/
I'm talking about spacial precision too. For 10 more €, it's worth it.
They have the same resolution and the same active area, how could it be more precise ?
I have no idea, it just is. Try it out somewhere if you don't believe me, you'll see.
will work on samsung galaxy tab? :\
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