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boo alright, then ContagionPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
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I can try but let me warn you, i've already played HOI4 and didn't really get into it, so I don't know if stellaris is going to be any differentNotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
Can you review stellaris pls I've been playing it for like a week and it's been pretty fun
I have absolutely no clue of what's this so sureDyllion wrote: 5554k
Metalocalypse
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review this curvy ass banana i had a few days ago
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6/10, the shape seems difficult to eat and it's far from the largest banana I have eaten but it seems ripe enough so I guess the flavor must have been okay.Cerno wrote: 3h509
review this curvy ass banana i had a few days ago
Did you know? Did you know? I've just watched revolutionary girl utena and really enjoyed it
Utena takes the form of a typical shoujo anime but then puts a spin on it, which on itself is a pretty commo nthing, but the themes that this anime tackles and the way they go on doing it is really cool
for starters, this anime is a way easier anime to follow than penguindrum (From the same director), the way it introduces elements is a lot more gradual IMO, and there isn't that drastic change present in chapters 13-14 of penguindrum. The story is a lot SoL-ish IMO, just utena getting dragged into the duels and then shit flowing very naturally from there on
It is a lot less mind-shattering as penguindrum tho, but that is also because this was made in the late 90's, and it being a subversion of the shoujo genre, if you haven't really grown with it or have all the tropes already ingrained in your head, it's probably not going to hit as hard. Not only that but some of the stuff that this anime does in many ways aren't that noble anymore, however, it's still an amazingly well crafted shoujo-drama-SoL-ish anime that's 100% worth watching
the art-style is great but you really got to like that 90's shoujo aesthetic to really enjoy it (which I do), with all the over-dressed characters and over the top husbandos
The main story is kinda wack, it's for sure unique. It uses the typical shoujo prince/princess love story and then just pushes that to their logical extreme, how that type of idealized love can blind you in some ways like with the rose bride or all the coming of age related stories. And this really just works because all the protagonists are extremely well written, and they feel like an actual person that just has hit puberty as of recent.
I think i'm also legally and contractually obligated to say how fucking gay this anime is, and that is, very gay. I wont elaborate any further
you can also clearly see a lot of the ADN for penguindrum early in this anime, having those second openings for certain characters, and sometimes something funny going on in the background or whatever, if you have seen penguindrum you will see the similarities
this is a pretty good anime all around
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next: Wander over yonder
also I started flowers for algernon, i'm enjoying it so far
Utena takes the form of a typical shoujo anime but then puts a spin on it, which on itself is a pretty commo nthing, but the themes that this anime tackles and the way they go on doing it is really cool
for starters, this anime is a way easier anime to follow than penguindrum (From the same director), the way it introduces elements is a lot more gradual IMO, and there isn't that drastic change present in chapters 13-14 of penguindrum. The story is a lot SoL-ish IMO, just utena getting dragged into the duels and then shit flowing very naturally from there on
It is a lot less mind-shattering as penguindrum tho, but that is also because this was made in the late 90's, and it being a subversion of the shoujo genre, if you haven't really grown with it or have all the tropes already ingrained in your head, it's probably not going to hit as hard. Not only that but some of the stuff that this anime does in many ways aren't that noble anymore, however, it's still an amazingly well crafted shoujo-drama-SoL-ish anime that's 100% worth watching
the art-style is great but you really got to like that 90's shoujo aesthetic to really enjoy it (which I do), with all the over-dressed characters and over the top husbandos
The main story is kinda wack, it's for sure unique. It uses the typical shoujo prince/princess love story and then just pushes that to their logical extreme, how that type of idealized love can blind you in some ways like with the rose bride or all the coming of age related stories. And this really just works because all the protagonists are extremely well written, and they feel like an actual person that just has hit puberty as of recent.
I think i'm also legally and contractually obligated to say how fucking gay this anime is, and that is, very gay. I wont elaborate any further
you can also clearly see a lot of the ADN for penguindrum early in this anime, having those second openings for certain characters, and sometimes something funny going on in the background or whatever, if you have seen penguindrum you will see the similarities
this is a pretty good anime all around
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next: Wander over yonder
also I started flowers for algernon, i'm enjoying it so far
oh shit, didn't know there was a movie, is it like ar recap/alternate story thing or is it a sequel?eblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
The movie is gayer even (and ofc more confusing). Can I suggest it?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I think i'm also legally and contractually obligated to say how fucking gay this anime is, and that is, very gay. I wont elaborate any further
Remake/retelling/alternate reality would be a more accurate word. It was made in 1999 but despite that the animation quality is superb. Technically it's standalone but the film is so insane that even by having watched the series I had a hard time getting it lol.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
oh shit, didn't know there was a movie, is it like ar recap/alternate story thing or is it a sequel?eblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
The movie is gayer even (and ofc more confusing). Can I suggest it?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I think i'm also legally and contractually obligated to say how fucking gay this anime is, and that is, very gay. I wont elaborate any further
I see, will watch it but later since I already promised wander over yondereblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
Remake/retelling/alternate reality would be a more accurate word. It was made in 1999 but despite that the animation quality is superb. Technically it's standalone but the film is so insane that even by having watched the series I had a hard time getting it lol.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
oh shit, didn't know there was a movie, is it like ar recap/alternate story thing or is it a sequel?eblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
The movie is gayer even (and ofc more confusing). Can I suggest it?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I think i'm also legally and contractually obligated to say how fucking gay this anime is, and that is, very gay. I wont elaborate any further
given that I don't really trust the quality of a scanlated japanese web novel, i'm going to read the manga as i'm not really seeing any official translationKatouMegumi wrote: 3j2041
Hi. I'm not going to request an eroge this time. I want you to check a web novel titled "Shinka no Mi". It also has a manga, light novel and anime adaptation. Honestly, pick your poison.
I ended up dropping wander over yonder after the 4th episode
there is nothing particullary wrong about this tv show but IMO there really isn't anything that good either, it's a very frenetic animated TV comedy full of musical numbers and stuff, and honestly my only real problem with this series is that I just didn't find it funny lmao, but that's just purely subjective
the animation is nice, it had some cool shots, but they really don't do anything that weird with the art other than the typical cartoon violence we're all used to
there really isn't much of a plot. Everything kinda does return to the statu quo, so really forget about big plot points, and each chapters start in a random place, so there doesn't really seem any real conection between chapters, so this is just a purely episodic show
the most interesting part are the songs, which again, are just fine, but it doesn't really seem like they do anything particullary special with the musical numbers
I just didn't really watch two seasons of this show, sorry
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next: gilgamesh
updates:
i'm still reading flowers for algernon, still good
how the FUCK do you play stellaris
there is nothing particullary wrong about this tv show but IMO there really isn't anything that good either, it's a very frenetic animated TV comedy full of musical numbers and stuff, and honestly my only real problem with this series is that I just didn't find it funny lmao, but that's just purely subjective
the animation is nice, it had some cool shots, but they really don't do anything that weird with the art other than the typical cartoon violence we're all used to
there really isn't much of a plot. Everything kinda does return to the statu quo, so really forget about big plot points, and each chapters start in a random place, so there doesn't really seem any real conection between chapters, so this is just a purely episodic show
the most interesting part are the songs, which again, are just fine, but it doesn't really seem like they do anything particullary special with the musical numbers
I just didn't really watch two seasons of this show, sorry
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next: gilgamesh
updates:
i'm still reading flowers for algernon, still good
how the FUCK do you play stellaris
maxisabigkaiju is gonna be really madPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
I ended up dropping wander over yonder after the 4th episode
there is nothing particullary wrong about this tv show but IMO there really isn't anything that good either, it's a very frenetic animated TV comedy full of musical numbers and stuff, and honestly my only real problem with this series is that I just didn't find it funny lmao, but that's just purely subjective
the animation is nice, it had some cool shots, but they really don't do anything that weird with the art other than the typical cartoon violence we're all used to
there really isn't much of a plot. Everything kinda does return to the statu quo, so really forget about big plot points, and each chapters start in a random place, so there doesn't really seem any real conection between chapters, so this is just a purely episodic show
the most interesting part are the songs, which again, are just fine, but it doesn't really seem like they do anything particullary special with the musical numbers
I just didn't really watch two seasons of this show, sorry
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next: gilgamesh
updates:
i'm still reading flowers for algernon, still good
how the FUCK do you play stellaris
Ah, yeah, here's the MAL link for the movie, as well as the title being Shoujo Kakumei Utena: Adolescence Mokushiroku. It also received a Castillian Spanish dub this year btw
I'd do a YTPH of it if I knew how to edit stuff lol.
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/441/Shoujo_Kakumei_Utena__Adolescence_Mokushiroku
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/441/Shoujo_Kakumei_Utena__Adolescence_Mokushiroku
You have angered mePatatitta wrote: 4y1w
I ended up dropping wander over yonder after the 4th episode
there is nothing particullary wrong about this tv show but IMO there really isn't anything that good either, it's a very frenetic animated TV comedy full of musical numbers and stuff, and honestly my only real problem with this series is that I just didn't find it funny lmao, but that's just purely subjective
the animation is nice, it had some cool shots, but they really don't do anything that weird with the art other than the typical cartoon violence we're all used to
there really isn't much of a plot. Everything kinda does return to the statu quo, so really forget about big plot points, and each chapters start in a random place, so there doesn't really seem any real conection between chapters, so this is just a purely episodic show
the most interesting part are the songs, which again, are just fine, but it doesn't really seem like they do anything particullary special with the musical numbers
I just didn't really watch two seasons of this show, sorry
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next: gilgamesh
updates:
i'm still reading flowers for algernon, still good
how the FUCK do you play stellaris
Play G-Darius next
MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z
Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I ended up dropping wander over yonder after the 4th episode
there is nothing particullary wrong about this tv show but IMO there really isn't anything that good either, it's a very frenetic animated TV comedy full of musical numbers and stuff, and honestly my only real problem with this series is that I just didn't find it funny lmao, but that's just purely subjective
the animation is nice, it had some cool shots, but they really don't do anything that weird with the art other than the typical cartoon violence we're all used to
there really isn't much of a plot. Everything kinda does return to the statu quo, so really forget about big plot points, and each chapters start in a random place, so there doesn't really seem any real conection between chapters, so this is just a purely episodic show
the most interesting part are the songs, which again, are just fine, but it doesn't really seem like they do anything particullary special with the musical numbers
I just didn't really watch two seasons of this show, sorry
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next: gilgamesh
updates:
i'm still reading flowers for algernon, still good
how the FUCK do you play stellaris
You have angered me
Play G-Darius next
Flowers of algernon is a really good book
the story is simple, there is this guy who has intellectual disability, and due to certain experiments, they manage to rise their IQ to incredibly high levels. The book is mainly focused on that character developement on how this change affects their person and in what ways
the thing is, while the experiments raised their book intelligence to maximum levels, they really didn't do that for their emotional intelligence, moving on from being a lovable idiot to a arrogant, narcissistic redditor and quora . You really feel that slow change too, in the last part of the book, some scenes really hurt emotionally as the book really made you like charlie
the book is also in a way about ableism, but we got to that the original short story was written in 1959, the full novel being released in 1966, so while the book is incredebly ive and honestly pretty ahead of it's time, there are still certain or missconceptions that could be seen as either a little bit offensive or just plain wrong, however you can clearly see the author's intent so that really doesn't matter
the writting style is also very interesting as this book is written in first person, and since charlie barely knew how to write, you can see the actual writting style and vocabulary improve as the book goes on.
I think this book is also very cruel in the way it depicted society, as even if they dont tell you explicitly, you can clearly see all the ways they were exploting charlie, in the bakery with the 10$ a week salary, the non-consensual experiments, and then in the last part of the book how charlie became very sexist
my only real complain with the book is that I wish that it was longer and actually explored tose concepts more, I wanted to see smart charlie opinion on the fact that he was being exploited, but IO guess that in the book he kinda just internalized that and just moved on?, this could also just be a case of the author not really trying to really talk about those stuff or thinking it wasn't quite needed, as I said, the original short story was made in 1959
however, I feel that even if not acknowledged that this book still really allows to see how mentally disabled people were perceived back in the day
yeah this book is really good, and honestly even if it may seem a little bit logical the "you are not superior to anyone for knowing math", some people still need to learn it, and the character developement and things it said about society is also very interesting
also, question for dementedduck, how did you even find this book?, this feels like it could be the type of book that they make you read in school, but if not, where did you find it?, I really want to read more books, have wanted to do so for a long while, but i just dont know any resource to find actually good books like this one, so if you could share anything, it would be helpful
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updates:
watched the first chapter of gilgamesh, it was nice
I kinda have a stellaris run going??? I think????
next: Shinka no Mi
the story is simple, there is this guy who has intellectual disability, and due to certain experiments, they manage to rise their IQ to incredibly high levels. The book is mainly focused on that character developement on how this change affects their person and in what ways
the thing is, while the experiments raised their book intelligence to maximum levels, they really didn't do that for their emotional intelligence, moving on from being a lovable idiot to a arrogant, narcissistic redditor and quora . You really feel that slow change too, in the last part of the book, some scenes really hurt emotionally as the book really made you like charlie
the book is also in a way about ableism, but we got to that the original short story was written in 1959, the full novel being released in 1966, so while the book is incredebly ive and honestly pretty ahead of it's time, there are still certain or missconceptions that could be seen as either a little bit offensive or just plain wrong, however you can clearly see the author's intent so that really doesn't matter
the writting style is also very interesting as this book is written in first person, and since charlie barely knew how to write, you can see the actual writting style and vocabulary improve as the book goes on.
I think this book is also very cruel in the way it depicted society, as even if they dont tell you explicitly, you can clearly see all the ways they were exploting charlie, in the bakery with the 10$ a week salary, the non-consensual experiments, and then in the last part of the book how charlie became very sexist
my only real complain with the book is that I wish that it was longer and actually explored tose concepts more, I wanted to see smart charlie opinion on the fact that he was being exploited, but IO guess that in the book he kinda just internalized that and just moved on?, this could also just be a case of the author not really trying to really talk about those stuff or thinking it wasn't quite needed, as I said, the original short story was made in 1959
however, I feel that even if not acknowledged that this book still really allows to see how mentally disabled people were perceived back in the day
yeah this book is really good, and honestly even if it may seem a little bit logical the "you are not superior to anyone for knowing math", some people still need to learn it, and the character developement and things it said about society is also very interesting
also, question for dementedduck, how did you even find this book?, this feels like it could be the type of book that they make you read in school, but if not, where did you find it?, I really want to read more books, have wanted to do so for a long while, but i just dont know any resource to find actually good books like this one, so if you could share anything, it would be helpful
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updates:
watched the first chapter of gilgamesh, it was nice
I kinda have a stellaris run going??? I think????
next: Shinka no Mi
i found it cos it was recommended to me by someone who knew i would like itPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
also, question for dementedduck, how did you even find this book?, this feels like it could be the type of book that they make you read in school, but if not, where did you find it?, I really want to read more books, have wanted to do so for a long while, but i just dont know any resource to find actually good books like this one, so if you could share anything, it would be helpful
normally i find new books through my mum as she also really likes reading but for stuff like this i either get people to recommend them to me or i look at other books by authors i like/ look at what people say the books i like are similar to
you can also just search on google "best *insert genre here* books" and take ur chances, that way u can also add like 'over 400 pages' or 'similar to *etc*' to get a more direct result
edit: o yea u can also just browse websites and look for books with good ratings
eg goodreads or storygraph (pretty much better goodreads)
Shinka no Mi analysis:
To make clear, i've read the manga, I know there is a web novel and a light novel and an anime, but honestly I feel most of the issues that I have are not adaptation problems, as they're way more fundamental
shinka no mi is just fine, not bad, probably good if you're into fantasy romcoms, but there isn't anything particullary special about it
the story follows the typical fantasy world isekai dragon quest demon king plot, except there are RPG elements, so like solo leveling and the such. Except it's a romcopm, so at the end it's just closer to konosuba than anything else. However I dont like eiother konosuba or solo leveling, so I dont have any feeling to any sort of way
the premise itself is fine, taking familiar elements and then using that as a base to create a banger story is a pretty popular technique, thing is, shinka no mi really doesn't do that
it's just more of the typical things, the rpg elements aren't really used in any sort of noble way, the characters are kinda shallow, and there are also some normal action scenes in it. Nothing of this is bad, as I said, it's just normal, regular stuff. But that means you're only really going to enjoy shinka no mi if you're already actively a fan of these elements, as this offers nothing new to the table
the story is pretty unfocused too, things kinda just happens, and nothing is really given special screen time and depth.
There really isn't anything to really analyze here, since it's just a bland generic fantasy isekai romcom, only read if you like that genre
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updates:
i'm still playing stellaris
i'm still watching gilgamesh
next: there isn't anything more for me to read
To make clear, i've read the manga, I know there is a web novel and a light novel and an anime, but honestly I feel most of the issues that I have are not adaptation problems, as they're way more fundamental
shinka no mi is just fine, not bad, probably good if you're into fantasy romcoms, but there isn't anything particullary special about it
the story follows the typical fantasy world isekai dragon quest demon king plot, except there are RPG elements, so like solo leveling and the such. Except it's a romcopm, so at the end it's just closer to konosuba than anything else. However I dont like eiother konosuba or solo leveling, so I dont have any feeling to any sort of way
the premise itself is fine, taking familiar elements and then using that as a base to create a banger story is a pretty popular technique, thing is, shinka no mi really doesn't do that
it's just more of the typical things, the rpg elements aren't really used in any sort of noble way, the characters are kinda shallow, and there are also some normal action scenes in it. Nothing of this is bad, as I said, it's just normal, regular stuff. But that means you're only really going to enjoy shinka no mi if you're already actively a fan of these elements, as this offers nothing new to the table
the story is pretty unfocused too, things kinda just happens, and nothing is really given special screen time and depth.
There really isn't anything to really analyze here, since it's just a bland generic fantasy isekai romcom, only read if you like that genre
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updates:
i'm still playing stellaris
i'm still watching gilgamesh
next: there isn't anything more for me to read
this one right? okay, will doNotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
If you got nothing to read can you read "hotel"? It's a manga by the same guy that wrote dr.stone i think
going to take a while since I have so many things to watch but sureJangsoodlor wrote: 616554
Watch Shinsekai Yori and review
just read hotel
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
Gilgamesh analysis:
gilgamesh is a weird one, I can see why someone would like this anime, but i'm not that person. I was originally mixed on it, but honestly giving it the extra thought needed for this I think I kind of dislike it
if someone ever tells you to watch gilgamesh, it is because of the plot, it's probably the best element of the anime, it's kinda like a paranormal mistery drama anime. And well, there is certainly a lot of plot in this, that I can say for sure
this anime plot is fairly dark. This is complemented by the very pale colors used in the animation, the lack of OST for some scenes or disturbing/ambiental sounds, the plate is made in a way that every character always has another secret, that everyone isn't really what it seems and that stuff is very dangerous.
But as for as much lore this anime has, I don't feel it ever really goes in depth into any of it, for example, one of the most talked about events is this "Twin X", a date where shit happened (Trying to not spoil stuff) and changed the future of humanity. However, even if it's total disaster for humanity, you kinda just have to believe that, as the anime wont put much effort into showcasing the life of regular people after these events or how humanity moved forward and what suggestions are there to revert this. This is something that should affect the entire world, however, it really doesn't seem to be only a talking point for our protagonists character arc. It feels this way for most stuff
However, as I mentioned before, this anime is also drama, and I think it's on those drama elements where this anime really falls apart. The characters are just not good IMO, they really dont feel like they have any personality after the obvious "this is a very dark story with dark characters who are hiding things", so when they try to pull of something like a romance, it just doesn't really work since I don't like any of the characters, it's not like they're complete unlikeable assholes, they just dont have much of a personality. And if you dont really care about the characters, you probably wont care about the plot either, it's really easy to lose interest in this anime
In a way, this feels like it took inspiration from evangelion but only evangelion 3.0 you can (not) redo. It's mainly focused on the lore, which is more complex than deep, and the characters fall kinda flat, making for a kinda boring watch.
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next: over the garden wall
I haven't really played stellaris since the last update, so same scenario
gilgamesh is a weird one, I can see why someone would like this anime, but i'm not that person. I was originally mixed on it, but honestly giving it the extra thought needed for this I think I kind of dislike it
if someone ever tells you to watch gilgamesh, it is because of the plot, it's probably the best element of the anime, it's kinda like a paranormal mistery drama anime. And well, there is certainly a lot of plot in this, that I can say for sure
this anime plot is fairly dark. This is complemented by the very pale colors used in the animation, the lack of OST for some scenes or disturbing/ambiental sounds, the plate is made in a way that every character always has another secret, that everyone isn't really what it seems and that stuff is very dangerous.
But as for as much lore this anime has, I don't feel it ever really goes in depth into any of it, for example, one of the most talked about events is this "Twin X", a date where shit happened (Trying to not spoil stuff) and changed the future of humanity. However, even if it's total disaster for humanity, you kinda just have to believe that, as the anime wont put much effort into showcasing the life of regular people after these events or how humanity moved forward and what suggestions are there to revert this. This is something that should affect the entire world, however, it really doesn't seem to be only a talking point for our protagonists character arc. It feels this way for most stuff
However, as I mentioned before, this anime is also drama, and I think it's on those drama elements where this anime really falls apart. The characters are just not good IMO, they really dont feel like they have any personality after the obvious "this is a very dark story with dark characters who are hiding things", so when they try to pull of something like a romance, it just doesn't really work since I don't like any of the characters, it's not like they're complete unlikeable assholes, they just dont have much of a personality. And if you dont really care about the characters, you probably wont care about the plot either, it's really easy to lose interest in this anime
In a way, this feels like it took inspiration from evangelion but only evangelion 3.0 you can (not) redo. It's mainly focused on the lore, which is more complex than deep, and the characters fall kinda flat, making for a kinda boring watch.
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next: over the garden wall
I haven't really played stellaris since the last update, so same scenario
Even though I really liked the anime I gotta it the characters are kinda dull, the plot doesn't exactly revolve around the characters though (not the ones we see most of the time at least) but around what they are as a group imoPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
Gilgamesh analysis:
gilgamesh is a weird one, I can see why someone would like this anime, but i'm not that person. I was originally mixed on it, but honestly giving it the extra thought needed for this I think I kind of dislike it
if someone ever tells you to watch gilgamesh, it is because of the plot, it's probably the best element of the anime, it's kinda like a paranormal mistery drama anime. And well, there is certainly a lot of plot in this, that I can say for sure
this anime plot is fairly dark. This is complemented by the very pale colors used in the animation, the lack of OST for some scenes or disturbing/ambiental sounds, the plate is made in a way that every character always has another secret, that everyone isn't really what it seems and that stuff is very dangerous.
But as for as much lore this anime has, I don't feel it ever really goes in depth into any of it, for example, one of the most talked about events is this "Twin X", a date where shit happened (Trying to not spoil stuff) and changed the future of humanity. However, even if it's total disaster for humanity, you kinda just have to believe that, as the anime wont put much effort into showcasing the life of regular people after these events or how humanity moved forward and what suggestions are there to revert this. This is something that should affect the entire world, however, it really doesn't seem to be only a talking point for our protagonists character arc. It feels this way for most stuff
However, as I mentioned before, this anime is also drama, and I think it's on those drama elements where this anime really falls apart. The characters are just not good IMO, they really dont feel like they have any personality after the obvious "this is a very dark story with dark characters who are hiding things", so when they try to pull of something like a romance, it just doesn't really work since I don't like any of the characters, it's not like they're complete unlikeable assholes, they just dont have much of a personality. And if you dont really care about the characters, you probably wont care about the plot either, it's really easy to lose interest in this anime
In a way, this feels like it took inspiration from evangelion but only evangelion 3.0 you can (not) redo. It's mainly focused on the lore, which is more complex than deep, and the characters fall kinda flat, making for a kinda boring watch.
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next: over the garden wall
I haven't really played stellaris since the last update, so same scenario
I understand why people don't like it though
nah honestly I like having the experience of accidently watching the movie with no further context and I want to keep it that way, i'm sure they're great, but that experience feels kinda specialeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
I think you should read the Haruhi novels. They're great. And also the only light novel I haven't dropped lol
Hotel was pretty good tbh, it is just like that tho, the first chapter kinda feels like it's gonna focus more about the humans that was still alive but it didn't.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
just read hotel
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
Also if you review novels can you read "the devastation of baal", I'm planning to buy a copy but idk if it's gonna be good or nah.
If you're not reading novels, can you read "Uramiya Honpo" By kurihara shoushou, it's a pretty good manga imo
NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
Hotel was pretty good tbh, it is just like that tho, the first chapter kinda feels like it's gonna focus more about the humans that was still alive but it didn't.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
just read hotel
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
Also if you review novels can you read "the devastation of baal", I'm planning to buy a copy but idk if it's gonna be good or nah.
If you're not reading novels, can you read "Uramiya Honpo" By kurihara shoushou, it's a pretty good manga imo
I don't know anything about warhammer so idk if I'm going to enjoy the devastation of baal
Aw, it's alright then if you don't wanna start reading a new massive world again.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
Hotel was pretty good tbh, it is just like that tho, the first chapter kinda feels like it's gonna focus more about the humans that was still alive but it didn't.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
just read hotel
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
Also if you review novels can you read "the devastation of baal", I'm planning to buy a copy but idk if it's gonna be good or nah.
If you're not reading novels, can you read "Uramiya Honpo" By kurihara shoushou, it's a pretty good manga imo
I don't know anything about warhammer so idk if I'm going to enjoy the devastation of baal
Then can you just read uramiya Honpo instead?
yeah I can do thatNotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
Aw, it's alright then if you don't wanna start reading a new massive world again.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o
Hotel was pretty good tbh, it is just like that tho, the first chapter kinda feels like it's gonna focus more about the humans that was still alive but it didn't.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
just read hotel
I really dont think this manga works well as an athology, I feel the actual content that was in the manga was fairly good, but they just dont work in this format, they need more time to set up stuff and actually use the world-building they dedicate so much time to explaining
a lot of the scenes kinda just feel you've watching the 50th chapter of an anime without any further context and it just happens that chapter is the arc finale. It has all these hyperdramatic and tense moments, but if you just dont really know the characters or the situation, someone going BUT THINK ABOUT OUR BABY randomly, instead of it actually being a very emotional scene, it's just funny on how absurd it is
for an anthology you want to make stories that doesn't really would work as a manga, stuff like hyper experimental short stories, quick little SoL-ish shorts, that sort of stuff, but just trying to pick a plot for a 15 volume manga and cramming it in a single chapter is just bad
other than that, chapter 4 (stephanos) was a little bit to gory and gruesome for my taste, (but that's a me thing), and I know this is made by the same guy as dr stone and there is probably traces of this work in dr stane but I haven't read dr stone
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i'm about to finish gilgamesh
I thought I had lost my stelaris run, but i'm still alive somehow, I know it's going to be near impossible to win rn but i'm going to go until the game actually finishes
next: nothing to read
Also if you review novels can you read "the devastation of baal", I'm planning to buy a copy but idk if it's gonna be good or nah.
If you're not reading novels, can you read "Uramiya Honpo" By kurihara shoushou, it's a pretty good manga imo
I don't know anything about warhammer so idk if I'm going to enjoy the devastation of baal
Then can you just read uramiya Honpo instead?
over the garden wall analysis:
I've went with high expectations into this, as i've constantly heard good things about it, so I will be even more nit-picky than usual
The story is about two brothers who gets lost in this forest and must find their way home. The aesthetic and ambient of this show is absolutely amazing, with that dark forest halloween creatures setting, this also combines perfectly with the plot of trying to return home, as it adds a sense of danger and mysticism
The structure of this show is very similar to an episodic one, there is still the overarching plot and some characters get introduced midway through it, but the chapters are mostly self-contained stories, and it mostly plays around with the idea of that we maybe fear the wrong things. That we're putting the trust in the wrong people, as in many parts of the show it turns out that the weird creature is actually not trying to kill everyone and destroy the world, but it's the human that's actually more scary
The first 2 chapters are strong, specially chapter 2, the one with all the pumpkin people, I think that it is by far the best episode in the whole thing, however, we mostly start seeing the problems I have with the show in the next few chapters (Will spoiler the next since i'm talking of like every single chapter)
chapter 3 is really dumb, like all of it, the premise on how they get involved into the situation in a way feels kinda forced, and IMO there are a couple of weird jokes like the bear one that turns out to be the ex otf the teacher? like idk really, it feels to go in opposite direction to the dark world and the trust premise
This is more of a personal thing, but I like it when a series has banger dialogue, i'm a sucker for amazingly written, almost poetic dialogue even if it's less realistic and no sane human would ever talk like that. So when in chapter 4, at the start they literally go "let's go to that dark and scary looking place over there to ask for directions!" I died a little bit inside
my problem with this one line of dialogue is not the comedy itself, I think comedy does have a place in a show like this, however it should be the sitaution that turns out to be kinda funny, however if you put a setup for a joke in such a cristal clear way, the characters start feeling less of a character and a real line of dialogue and more just something that had to happen in the script, and it overalls makes me care less of the dialogue of the entire show. If I know that they're willing to just use the dialogue as a perfectly obvious way to try to set up something for later in such an unnatural way, I know that the dialogue isn't that deep, that there isn't really going to be any hidden meaning to the words, that there hasn't been that much brainpower into creating banger dialogue, and I think that's a shame.
And while I have mostly complained about that single line, I think that the characters overall could be heavily improved, I really don't like the existance of gregory in the way that it does now. That sense of danger that the world inherently created, he removes it. The way he just delivers these transparent funny lines, and the plot armour both characters has kina just kill a lot of the more action/tension focused moments
because that's another thing, they clearly have a lot of plot armour, the characters do clearly make the wrong choice at times, but they're never punished for it. There is no consequence for their actions, at the end of the day thigns will probably be alright, and I think that is a shame, I feel with the aesthetic and ideas of this show, actually just having those consequences would make the show 20 times better
If the characters could be damaged in any way, if they didn't feel like they had to deliver those jokes, the actual message and plot would be so much more powerful and memorable, if we could just have a scene of a character actually losing their fucking mind amist the absolutely nightmarish ambient, just because they made a wrong choice that they really didn't have that many chances of actually seeing through it, showcassing the clearly unfair situation they were placed in and being forced to reconciliate and adapt to it, learning from their previous action and pushing forward, that would be so fucking sick you cant even begin to imagine it
but that is what I personally wanted the show to be like, and what it seemed to be pointing at with chapter 2, however we got to actually sit down and realize that this is a cartoon network show, that this in a way, it's still directed at kids. In that context these characters works and the plot armour makes sense.
For as much as the "Animation is not just for kids" is absolutely true, it's not really the case. The medium of animation isn't really necessarily for kids, however, in western countries, the only companies with the creative directors and the money to make shows happen have rules that forces the shows to be kid-friendly
That really makes me wonder, if this same director were given the opportunity to have made the show with the same resources but without the limitations cartoon network has, what would they have done?. It's just a shame IMO that something with so much potential had to be trimmed down this way, and while it's still a really good western animated show, (one of the better ones i've seen tbh), it could have been so, so much more
it's just, knowing that structure and those limitations, I don't think I need to really tell you how this show ends, you already know how, you already know what happens and what does not happen, so i'm not really going to talk about any more specific chapters
tldr: good show but god I wish we had someone actually pushing for good animated shows not directed at children
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next: contagion
still haven't really progressed in stellaris
still haven't started Uramiya Honpo
I've went with high expectations into this, as i've constantly heard good things about it, so I will be even more nit-picky than usual
The story is about two brothers who gets lost in this forest and must find their way home. The aesthetic and ambient of this show is absolutely amazing, with that dark forest halloween creatures setting, this also combines perfectly with the plot of trying to return home, as it adds a sense of danger and mysticism
The structure of this show is very similar to an episodic one, there is still the overarching plot and some characters get introduced midway through it, but the chapters are mostly self-contained stories, and it mostly plays around with the idea of that we maybe fear the wrong things. That we're putting the trust in the wrong people, as in many parts of the show it turns out that the weird creature is actually not trying to kill everyone and destroy the world, but it's the human that's actually more scary
The first 2 chapters are strong, specially chapter 2, the one with all the pumpkin people, I think that it is by far the best episode in the whole thing, however, we mostly start seeing the problems I have with the show in the next few chapters (Will spoiler the next since i'm talking of like every single chapter)
chapter 3 is really dumb, like all of it, the premise on how they get involved into the situation in a way feels kinda forced, and IMO there are a couple of weird jokes like the bear one that turns out to be the ex otf the teacher? like idk really, it feels to go in opposite direction to the dark world and the trust premise
This is more of a personal thing, but I like it when a series has banger dialogue, i'm a sucker for amazingly written, almost poetic dialogue even if it's less realistic and no sane human would ever talk like that. So when in chapter 4, at the start they literally go "let's go to that dark and scary looking place over there to ask for directions!" I died a little bit inside
my problem with this one line of dialogue is not the comedy itself, I think comedy does have a place in a show like this, however it should be the sitaution that turns out to be kinda funny, however if you put a setup for a joke in such a cristal clear way, the characters start feeling less of a character and a real line of dialogue and more just something that had to happen in the script, and it overalls makes me care less of the dialogue of the entire show. If I know that they're willing to just use the dialogue as a perfectly obvious way to try to set up something for later in such an unnatural way, I know that the dialogue isn't that deep, that there isn't really going to be any hidden meaning to the words, that there hasn't been that much brainpower into creating banger dialogue, and I think that's a shame.
And while I have mostly complained about that single line, I think that the characters overall could be heavily improved, I really don't like the existance of gregory in the way that it does now. That sense of danger that the world inherently created, he removes it. The way he just delivers these transparent funny lines, and the plot armour both characters has kina just kill a lot of the more action/tension focused moments
because that's another thing, they clearly have a lot of plot armour, the characters do clearly make the wrong choice at times, but they're never punished for it. There is no consequence for their actions, at the end of the day thigns will probably be alright, and I think that is a shame, I feel with the aesthetic and ideas of this show, actually just having those consequences would make the show 20 times better
If the characters could be damaged in any way, if they didn't feel like they had to deliver those jokes, the actual message and plot would be so much more powerful and memorable, if we could just have a scene of a character actually losing their fucking mind amist the absolutely nightmarish ambient, just because they made a wrong choice that they really didn't have that many chances of actually seeing through it, showcassing the clearly unfair situation they were placed in and being forced to reconciliate and adapt to it, learning from their previous action and pushing forward, that would be so fucking sick you cant even begin to imagine it
but that is what I personally wanted the show to be like, and what it seemed to be pointing at with chapter 2, however we got to actually sit down and realize that this is a cartoon network show, that this in a way, it's still directed at kids. In that context these characters works and the plot armour makes sense.
For as much as the "Animation is not just for kids" is absolutely true, it's not really the case. The medium of animation isn't really necessarily for kids, however, in western countries, the only companies with the creative directors and the money to make shows happen have rules that forces the shows to be kid-friendly
That really makes me wonder, if this same director were given the opportunity to have made the show with the same resources but without the limitations cartoon network has, what would they have done?. It's just a shame IMO that something with so much potential had to be trimmed down this way, and while it's still a really good western animated show, (one of the better ones i've seen tbh), it could have been so, so much more
it's just, knowing that structure and those limitations, I don't think I need to really tell you how this show ends, you already know how, you already know what happens and what does not happen, so i'm not really going to talk about any more specific chapters
tldr: good show but god I wish we had someone actually pushing for good animated shows not directed at children
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next: contagion
still haven't really progressed in stellaris
still haven't started Uramiya Honpo
honestly my favorite cartoon
I dropped Uramiya Honpo, kinda just read the start, but idk, it didn't really feel interesting, the story feels so unfocused, things kinda just happens, idk what am I supposed to be looking at with this, honestly i've re-read the first volume seeing if I had missed anything but it didn't seem so. Idk, It's just not my thing I guess
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next: metalocalypse (TV show)
next: G-darius (Game)
nothing more to read
Stellaris analysis
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I have not finished a playthrough as I said, because my thoughts on the game hasn't really changed since then, so i'm just going to say what I think now seeing as it's going to take me around 4 years to actually finish a run
stellaris is a grand strategy game by paradox, and if you've played like HOI4 or crusaders kings and the such you know what I will mean when I say that this game probably has the steepest learning curve i've ever played
stellaris feels like you are playing civilization but there are 20 extra buttons that you dont know what the fuck does, the tutorial does not explain anything, in fact, the tutorial is straight up broken and bad. It doesn't really explain half of the things of the game, and the things that they explain are just not true, for example I the "Press f10 to open x window" and it was straght up the wrong shortcut
when I played the game, if it wasn't that I'm foring myself to really go a little bit deeper on the stuff I do here to try and finish them, I would have dropped the game right there. Instead, I googled how to play, and I found like an hour long video explaining all the mechanis, 30 minute in I was so absolutely overwhelmed that I just decided fuck it, and just decided to play the game without knowing how to even build a ship
the only I knew were how to scan planets and build stuff in the planets, so I just did that for like an hour, I did learn some stuff along the way, but honestly, if the window had a button to say "do this automatically" (which is surprisingly half of the game), I would press it. And I do thing doing that is needed, mainly in research, as many of the technologies that got offered to me were like "20% increased extraction rate on x material", what does that material do? I have absolutely no idea!, and since there are like 10 different resources and I wanted to actually play the game, I just ignored as many parts as I could afford to ignore
While I know civ is 4X and stellaris is grand strategy, I did see that there was a civ point system, so I was like, "oh, I dont need to necessarily win by domination", so I mainly focused on economy and research bonus, hoping that I could get something along the lines of a cultural or religious victory, just form a hyper strong galactic alliance or something like that idk
the game in a way was pretty relaxing when played that way, just go around exploring stuff, reading all the events and stuff and trying to just expand in the best way I could, honestly kinda fun, but then, I made first with another civ
for context, later in the game a galactical union is formed, and all of the civs were at least neutral with me, all but the one I made first with, which was PISSED, even if I did my best to try to improve relationships, and they declared war, I thought I could hold off if I mainly stayed on my territory with the maximum defenses I could afffort but they kinda just had 6 times the firepower and I lost the war, losing my home system
after that, they seemed to be preparing for another war in order to finish me off, so I had to actually try to play the game and obtain defenses, and then I realized something. For all of the game so far, in each event and option, I kinda just went with the option I would personally RP, not really looking at the benefits, just going full RP, I had done this before in games like civ (which I know how to properly play but I still choose to play that way from time to time), but in order to actually have a chance to beating stellaris, at least without a high enough level of experience and playtime, the optimal way to play is to not read the events, just look at the possible answers and choose the one you think it's the most useful which is kinda boring IMO
but now i've learned how to build more ships, however i'm capped by the ammount of leaders I can select so I cant really do that many troops, but i'm currently just continuing my gameplay loop of exploring and building stuff but this time i'm actually building defenses and stuff
stellaris is just a constant rollercoaster of being the most overwhelming and frustrating game you've ever played and actually a pretty chill experience, honestly stellaris felt somehow more frustrating than fear and hunger, and that is saying a lot
however, I do think the game can be pretty interesting and give for tons of different runs and strategies, it's just a love-hate game for me, I just wish the game had a properly working tutorial and wasn't as hard to get into, it is for sure better than fear and hunger (I did not like that game). I will probably play some more stellaris in the future, try to finish this run and then maybe write a little bit more when I do lol
I have not finished a playthrough as I said, because my thoughts on the game hasn't really changed since then, so i'm just going to say what I think now seeing as it's going to take me around 4 years to actually finish a run
stellaris is a grand strategy game by paradox, and if you've played like HOI4 or crusaders kings and the such you know what I will mean when I say that this game probably has the steepest learning curve i've ever played
stellaris feels like you are playing civilization but there are 20 extra buttons that you dont know what the fuck does, the tutorial does not explain anything, in fact, the tutorial is straight up broken and bad. It doesn't really explain half of the things of the game, and the things that they explain are just not true, for example I the "Press f10 to open x window" and it was straght up the wrong shortcut
when I played the game, if it wasn't that I'm foring myself to really go a little bit deeper on the stuff I do here to try and finish them, I would have dropped the game right there. Instead, I googled how to play, and I found like an hour long video explaining all the mechanis, 30 minute in I was so absolutely overwhelmed that I just decided fuck it, and just decided to play the game without knowing how to even build a ship
the only I knew were how to scan planets and build stuff in the planets, so I just did that for like an hour, I did learn some stuff along the way, but honestly, if the window had a button to say "do this automatically" (which is surprisingly half of the game), I would press it. And I do thing doing that is needed, mainly in research, as many of the technologies that got offered to me were like "20% increased extraction rate on x material", what does that material do? I have absolutely no idea!, and since there are like 10 different resources and I wanted to actually play the game, I just ignored as many parts as I could afford to ignore
While I know civ is 4X and stellaris is grand strategy, I did see that there was a civ point system, so I was like, "oh, I dont need to necessarily win by domination", so I mainly focused on economy and research bonus, hoping that I could get something along the lines of a cultural or religious victory, just form a hyper strong galactic alliance or something like that idk
the game in a way was pretty relaxing when played that way, just go around exploring stuff, reading all the events and stuff and trying to just expand in the best way I could, honestly kinda fun, but then, I made first with another civ
for context, later in the game a galactical union is formed, and all of the civs were at least neutral with me, all but the one I made first with, which was PISSED, even if I did my best to try to improve relationships, and they declared war, I thought I could hold off if I mainly stayed on my territory with the maximum defenses I could afffort but they kinda just had 6 times the firepower and I lost the war, losing my home system
after that, they seemed to be preparing for another war in order to finish me off, so I had to actually try to play the game and obtain defenses, and then I realized something. For all of the game so far, in each event and option, I kinda just went with the option I would personally RP, not really looking at the benefits, just going full RP, I had done this before in games like civ (which I know how to properly play but I still choose to play that way from time to time), but in order to actually have a chance to beating stellaris, at least without a high enough level of experience and playtime, the optimal way to play is to not read the events, just look at the possible answers and choose the one you think it's the most useful which is kinda boring IMO
but now i've learned how to build more ships, however i'm capped by the ammount of leaders I can select so I cant really do that many troops, but i'm currently just continuing my gameplay loop of exploring and building stuff but this time i'm actually building defenses and stuff
stellaris is just a constant rollercoaster of being the most overwhelming and frustrating game you've ever played and actually a pretty chill experience, honestly stellaris felt somehow more frustrating than fear and hunger, and that is saying a lot
however, I do think the game can be pretty interesting and give for tons of different runs and strategies, it's just a love-hate game for me, I just wish the game had a properly working tutorial and wasn't as hard to get into, it is for sure better than fear and hunger (I did not like that game). I will probably play some more stellaris in the future, try to finish this run and then maybe write a little bit more when I do lol
Contagion analysis
I only really knew about this movei beforehand because it got more popular due to the pandemic, which was logical as this movie was about a pandemic, and while it isn't anything particullary mind-blowing or original, I think it was an enjoyable watch
the story was fairly good, even if it very unrealistic given recent events (tbh I cant really blame the dierctor for this, most movies are unrealistic, it's just that this has currently become blatantly so), and it does good with the setting it has, it doesn't go particullary in depth but it does have some elements that I think are really cool, like the fact that you can use touching people as a lethal weapon
the characters were likeable, the dialogue was fairly standard, nothing about these elements are particullary interesting but they aren't bad either, they're just average
I think the most interesting part of the movie currently isn't the movie itself, but more what the movie represents. An idea on how a very dangerous pandemic would play out in the modern day, and it is fairly funny on how over the top some of the elements are, it's really surprising, And I can really tell some people were imagining that something like this would happen IRL this when covid started.
I dont really have anything more to say, it's just a standard movie that has become more enjoyable as of recent, watch it if you dont really have anything else or if you just want to have anything in your second monitor or something
the story was fairly good, even if it very unrealistic given recent events (tbh I cant really blame the dierctor for this, most movies are unrealistic, it's just that this has currently become blatantly so), and it does good with the setting it has, it doesn't go particullary in depth but it does have some elements that I think are really cool, like the fact that you can use touching people as a lethal weapon
the characters were likeable, the dialogue was fairly standard, nothing about these elements are particullary interesting but they aren't bad either, they're just average
I think the most interesting part of the movie currently isn't the movie itself, but more what the movie represents. An idea on how a very dangerous pandemic would play out in the modern day, and it is fairly funny on how over the top some of the elements are, it's really surprising, And I can really tell some people were imagining that something like this would happen IRL this when covid started.
I dont really have anything more to say, it's just a standard movie that has become more enjoyable as of recent, watch it if you dont really have anything else or if you just want to have anything in your second monitor or something
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next: metalocalypse (TV show)
next: G-darius (Game)
nothing more to read
Watch The Flying Luna Clipper (1987)
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
MAL link above.
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
MAL link above.
I will, added to the listeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
Watch The Flying Luna Clipper (1987)
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
MAL link above.
I mean, while I do love ultrakill (it's my favourite shooter), I feel focusing on the characters and story is in a way missing the point of the game, since it's clear that they didn't put as much effort and ion into the lore compared to that one fishing level, so I don't really think that analyzing v1 would be particullary interestingDementedjet wrote: 2h5xe
Analyze the character of v1 from ultrakillyourself
Like, why is he doing this and blah blah blah
g-darius: I did not know this game beforehand but yeah, I don't think I can analyze an arcade shoot em up game, I mostly analyze plots and stuff so idk what to really say, i'm not tim rogers, sorry
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metalocalypse analysis:
for contet, i've only watched the first season of this show, and that is because it is like good fast food, you can keep eating it but you really shouldn't, so I think just one kebab is enough
metalocalypse is a western animation "adult" comedy tv show about a band named dethlok, which are at the same time the most popular band of all time and also the heaviest band of all time
there isn't much of a plot, it is not episodic, but the plot really doesn't matter, as it still does have a story structure of a episodic show, so for the first 2 episodes you may be surprised at certain things until you realize that you're just going to see that joke repeated 22 aditional times
the jokes are very lazy, and in some scenario it looks like they tried harder to make it offensive or disgusting to watch than acutally funny, however, and the reason why I did not drop it, they actually have some funny jokes more often than not, but honestly that is saying more about my bad tastes than anything else.
My personal favourite joke was a scene i nthe control room where they go "dethlok is currently the 13th biggest economy on earth", I thought that was just funny, but then, the way they follow up that joke 12 chapters later (which, to be fair, they at least TRIED to follow up the joke unlike other comedies), is "dethlok has sured belgium and is now the 12th biggest economy on earth" which it just feels like you just made the exact same joke again more than really followed it up
and, as it seems to be a typical thing in these reviews, I dont think this trying to be child-friendly somewhat is hurting the product more than else for me, someoen who is definitively not 7yo currently. Because for as many people die brutal deaths, they will censor out swears, and I mean, the band just doesn't look that heavy because things like that, if they aren't allowed to add a swear imagine the shit they wanted to add that they were denied
there is nothing really else to this show, just average comedy really
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next: Revolutionary Girl Utena movie
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metalocalypse analysis:
for contet, i've only watched the first season of this show, and that is because it is like good fast food, you can keep eating it but you really shouldn't, so I think just one kebab is enough
metalocalypse is a western animation "adult" comedy tv show about a band named dethlok, which are at the same time the most popular band of all time and also the heaviest band of all time
there isn't much of a plot, it is not episodic, but the plot really doesn't matter, as it still does have a story structure of a episodic show, so for the first 2 episodes you may be surprised at certain things until you realize that you're just going to see that joke repeated 22 aditional times
the jokes are very lazy, and in some scenario it looks like they tried harder to make it offensive or disgusting to watch than acutally funny, however, and the reason why I did not drop it, they actually have some funny jokes more often than not, but honestly that is saying more about my bad tastes than anything else.
My personal favourite joke was a scene i nthe control room where they go "dethlok is currently the 13th biggest economy on earth", I thought that was just funny, but then, the way they follow up that joke 12 chapters later (which, to be fair, they at least TRIED to follow up the joke unlike other comedies), is "dethlok has sured belgium and is now the 12th biggest economy on earth" which it just feels like you just made the exact same joke again more than really followed it up
and, as it seems to be a typical thing in these reviews, I dont think this trying to be child-friendly somewhat is hurting the product more than else for me, someoen who is definitively not 7yo currently. Because for as many people die brutal deaths, they will censor out swears, and I mean, the band just doesn't look that heavy because things like that, if they aren't allowed to add a swear imagine the shit they wanted to add that they were denied
there is nothing really else to this show, just average comedy really
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next: Revolutionary Girl Utena movie
Revolutionary Girl Utena: The Adolescence of Utena:
I have absolutely no fucking clue what just happened in this movie
The start I did get tho, and I do think in some ways I like it more than the original anime, the sitation seems to be more clear, the animation is better (expected from a movie), and it overall makes more sense, it's also somehow gayer than the original anime which I did not think it was possible
but now, for the rest of the movie, I actually cant really say anything because i've actually just didn't understasnd it LMAO
like unironically i'm completely lost and looking online doesn't really seem to help
next: cyberpunk: edgerunners
I have absolutely no fucking clue what just happened in this movie
The start I did get tho, and I do think in some ways I like it more than the original anime, the sitation seems to be more clear, the animation is better (expected from a movie), and it overall makes more sense, it's also somehow gayer than the original anime which I did not think it was possible
but now, for the rest of the movie, I actually cant really say anything because i've actually just didn't understasnd it LMAO
like unironically i'm completely lost and looking online doesn't really seem to help
next: cyberpunk: edgerunners
cyberpunk edgerunners:
first of all, I haven't played cyberpunk, but enither has anyone who has watched this anime so lmao
This anime was alright, I have some issues with it but it comes down more to personal preference than it actually being bad or whatever.
I think the first thing that anyone will mention when talking about this anime is the animation and OST, which yeah, they're fucking amazing, but unless they're really really wack (which it is not, it's just really polished), it cant carry an entire anime or show, so while it is good, we aren't talking about hylics here, for better or for worse
I don't have issue with that, my main problem is with the actual plot itself, and that is, I just dont like action, and this anime is just really a regular, really well animated action anime on a cybperpunk setting, because as much as this anime tries to be cyberpunk, they dont really take that much advantage of the setting that much IMO.
There are one or two scenes that are in fact quite good yes, and that they required it to be cyberpunk, but I feel a lot of those concepts aren't really explored enough, instead, they just go "oh yeah we're cyberpunk we can replace a part of our body if we want to", but I don't think it actually explores transhumanism that much, they just say that it's something that you can do, and they use that in the anime, but only to boost the action scenes, which by some people it will be fine, but I just dont personally like that
also, there are a lot of scenes too that just feel like LOOK WE ARE CYBERPUNK WE HAVE NAKED GIRLS AND BOOBS AND PORN AND SEX, and it doesn't really do anything with it, again, it just mentions something that happens or you can do in a cyberpunk setting, but it doesn't really do anything with it
in fact, it's this element that I feel makes cyberpunk struggle to really stand up in the cyberpunk genre, as a lot of what edgerunners does, I feel blade runner 2049 did it first.
I feel cyberpunk only really starts to shine at around chapter 8, and that is when they really explore what over-modding your body can cause, as they have to deal with the consequences of accidently having murdered a civilian and they show them actually lose control of their body, this is amazing, I wish the entire show was about this. Instead, they just happen to have really big tolerance for that stuff and they mod it even further in order to sacrifice themselves to defeat big bad,
I know why does this anime exist and why does it has as much of a budget, it's CD projekt red, netflix and studio trigger, and cyberpunk 2077 was a game that they really were pushing hard even if it had a rocky launch, however, I feel ultra heaven really does fix a lot of the issues that I pointed it out here, like actually abusing the cyberpunk nature of the world. I just wish they adapted that instead but I get why this did not happen
action scenes are cool tho
next: Shinsekai Yori
first of all, I haven't played cyberpunk, but enither has anyone who has watched this anime so lmao
This anime was alright, I have some issues with it but it comes down more to personal preference than it actually being bad or whatever.
I think the first thing that anyone will mention when talking about this anime is the animation and OST, which yeah, they're fucking amazing, but unless they're really really wack (which it is not, it's just really polished), it cant carry an entire anime or show, so while it is good, we aren't talking about hylics here, for better or for worse
I don't have issue with that, my main problem is with the actual plot itself, and that is, I just dont like action, and this anime is just really a regular, really well animated action anime on a cybperpunk setting, because as much as this anime tries to be cyberpunk, they dont really take that much advantage of the setting that much IMO.
There are one or two scenes that are in fact quite good yes, and that they required it to be cyberpunk, but I feel a lot of those concepts aren't really explored enough, instead, they just go "oh yeah we're cyberpunk we can replace a part of our body if we want to", but I don't think it actually explores transhumanism that much, they just say that it's something that you can do, and they use that in the anime, but only to boost the action scenes, which by some people it will be fine, but I just dont personally like that
also, there are a lot of scenes too that just feel like LOOK WE ARE CYBERPUNK WE HAVE NAKED GIRLS AND BOOBS AND PORN AND SEX, and it doesn't really do anything with it, again, it just mentions something that happens or you can do in a cyberpunk setting, but it doesn't really do anything with it
in fact, it's this element that I feel makes cyberpunk struggle to really stand up in the cyberpunk genre, as a lot of what edgerunners does, I feel blade runner 2049 did it first.
I feel cyberpunk only really starts to shine at around chapter 8, and that is when they really explore what over-modding your body can cause, as they have to deal with the consequences of accidently having murdered a civilian and they show them actually lose control of their body, this is amazing, I wish the entire show was about this. Instead, they just happen to have really big tolerance for that stuff and they mod it even further in order to sacrifice themselves to defeat big bad,
I know why does this anime exist and why does it has as much of a budget, it's CD projekt red, netflix and studio trigger, and cyberpunk 2077 was a game that they really were pushing hard even if it had a rocky launch, however, I feel ultra heaven really does fix a lot of the issues that I pointed it out here, like actually abusing the cyberpunk nature of the world. I just wish they adapted that instead but I get why this did not happen
action scenes are cool tho
next: Shinsekai Yori
that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, some are the opposite. This is better viewed that played. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!). Look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like. and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself. If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list. And even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
this made my adhd really stressedPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, this is one of those games. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!), look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like, and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself, If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list, and even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
but anyway:
i understand if the game wasn't great to you, i liked it for the story, of which i completely understood after deep diving into it. i didn't find this from a big youtuber, by the way. i found this game by myself and wanted to try it. i really like the premise of the story and lore, but i do think it could've been executed better aswell. again, i understand if you didn't like it, i just like it for the story. thank you so much for the analysis by the way! also, i'm a coward too so i don't want any horror recommendations :/
I still would advice anyone to really try to make their scope in anything bigger, so I still feel you should try doing any of the things I really listed there, and for anyone else reading this, trust me, you wont regret itlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
this made my adhd really stressedPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, this is one of those games. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!), look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like, and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself, If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list, and even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
but anyway:
i understand if the game wasn't great to you, i liked it for the story, of which i completely understood after deep diving into it. i didn't find this from a big youtuber, by the way. i found this game by myself and wanted to try it. i really like the premise of the story and lore, but i do think it could've been executed better aswell. again, i understand if you didn't like it, i just like it for the story. thank you so much for the analysis by the way!
i almost forgot i requested something here and then realized it's been at the bottom of the list the entire time. oof
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
oh the incest game, I can try it out yeah,Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
i almost forgot i requested something here and then realized it's been at the bottom of the list the entire time. oof
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
anyways, I can try emulating it, tbh I haven't tried, was too busy also with all the other reqs, but now that i've went throguh almost all of them, I think I can try it out, will see tomorrow anyways
tomorrow update: I got rain code to work, so far it's good
I was mainly focusing on beating rain code, but I didn't want to keep it playing it and I was kinda bored so I decided to check the coffin of andy and leyley
when in my previous post I said "oh the incest game" I was just following the meme I had heard. Now I get it
I didn't like this game, in fact, I would say I pretty much hate it, I honestly dont get the appeal, and i'm not saying it like I have a clue in my heard but I dont want to it it so i'm saying this, i'm being completely honest when I say I don't get the appeal
This game is a narrative puzzle-ish game, so think the same gameplay loop as OneShot, just solve little puzzles and just enjoy the good plot. While i'm awful at puzzole games and I had to end up using a guide to solve a few of OneShot's puzzles. I can see how would you have solved them, and some of them were quite clever. However, with andy and leyley, these puzzles just comes down to spam Z with every interactable object until you hit the solution. This is not because the puzzles are hard, but because there are MULTIPLE solutions to each problem, however the game will only choose own, so I'm many cases I had an idea on how to solve something, and then I just couldn't interact with the object that would have solved that whole situation
to be fair, I did also skip some puzzles in OneShot as I said before and I fucking loved that game, however, with andy and leyley, the plot is in my personal opinion just really weird and uncomfortable. My biggest problem are just the two protagonist, they're both very unlikeable pieces of shit. However I feel you must connect with the characters somewhat which I just dont get.
Unlikable protagonist aren't itself bad, there are many games and stories where the main guy just sucks, the problem is when the plot is entirely character-based, and so far, there hasn't been any real consequence for any of their actions. It's just a game where you watch two incestuous psychopath (and no, they dont have any justification of why they're this way) run around and do uncomfortable shit with bad puzzles until the game ends, i'm sorry if i'm being way more negative with this game than with many others that I did not enjoy but I just actually hate this game
now, this game has routes, however I don't think they do it particullary well?, I feel they're two type of routes in videogames. The one that are just very clear cut choices which you know the consequences, so think something like undertale, and the ones where it's a lot of little actions that you don't realize they're really contributing to an ending however they do, so think disco elysium. This is more similar to the second half, however, they dont pull it off nearly as well as disco elysium, at least in my opinion
disco elysium ending is itself just a can of worms of game design, probably one of the hardest things to analyze just because how off the wall and how different it is to literally every other videogame ever. But the gist of it is that when you start roleplaying as your character, and take the choices you think are right, at the end of the game, you will get an ending that's appropiate for your actions and personality as a player, so it's an ending that while it may be less different than something like undertale, it will probably have a bigger impact to you as a person. But, as I said, the character's here are unlikeable, so you wont really ever get into their skin, so you're being forced between multiple choices you dont want to make, and being forced into a route that you didn't knew it was possible to avoid, this just doesn't really work for me
To give the game some credit, the art is really good, I think that's as far as compliments I can give
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
but really, what's the point?, it's a character-based story, with a branching narrative, but the characters are unlikable, I only see anyone really getting into this game if they can relate to the protagonist, but then, the game doesn't seem to say anything just yet, because the game is in fucking early access so there isn't even a payoff to the story just yet.
I unironically just dont get this game
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updates: finished chapter 14 for shinsekai yori, and i'm really enjoying it
I'm still at the start of rain code, but so far it's a pretty good game
when in my previous post I said "oh the incest game" I was just following the meme I had heard. Now I get it
I didn't like this game, in fact, I would say I pretty much hate it, I honestly dont get the appeal, and i'm not saying it like I have a clue in my heard but I dont want to it it so i'm saying this, i'm being completely honest when I say I don't get the appeal
This game is a narrative puzzle-ish game, so think the same gameplay loop as OneShot, just solve little puzzles and just enjoy the good plot. While i'm awful at puzzole games and I had to end up using a guide to solve a few of OneShot's puzzles. I can see how would you have solved them, and some of them were quite clever. However, with andy and leyley, these puzzles just comes down to spam Z with every interactable object until you hit the solution. This is not because the puzzles are hard, but because there are MULTIPLE solutions to each problem, however the game will only choose own, so I'm many cases I had an idea on how to solve something, and then I just couldn't interact with the object that would have solved that whole situation
to be fair, I did also skip some puzzles in OneShot as I said before and I fucking loved that game, however, with andy and leyley, the plot is in my personal opinion just really weird and uncomfortable. My biggest problem are just the two protagonist, they're both very unlikeable pieces of shit. However I feel you must connect with the characters somewhat which I just dont get.
Unlikable protagonist aren't itself bad, there are many games and stories where the main guy just sucks, the problem is when the plot is entirely character-based, and so far, there hasn't been any real consequence for any of their actions. It's just a game where you watch two incestuous psychopath (and no, they dont have any justification of why they're this way) run around and do uncomfortable shit with bad puzzles until the game ends, i'm sorry if i'm being way more negative with this game than with many others that I did not enjoy but I just actually hate this game
now, this game has routes, however I don't think they do it particullary well?, I feel they're two type of routes in videogames. The one that are just very clear cut choices which you know the consequences, so think something like undertale, and the ones where it's a lot of little actions that you don't realize they're really contributing to an ending however they do, so think disco elysium. This is more similar to the second half, however, they dont pull it off nearly as well as disco elysium, at least in my opinion
disco elysium ending is itself just a can of worms of game design, probably one of the hardest things to analyze just because how off the wall and how different it is to literally every other videogame ever. But the gist of it is that when you start roleplaying as your character, and take the choices you think are right, at the end of the game, you will get an ending that's appropiate for your actions and personality as a player, so it's an ending that while it may be less different than something like undertale, it will probably have a bigger impact to you as a person. But, as I said, the character's here are unlikeable, so you wont really ever get into their skin, so you're being forced between multiple choices you dont want to make, and being forced into a route that you didn't knew it was possible to avoid, this just doesn't really work for me
To give the game some credit, the art is really good, I think that's as far as compliments I can give
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
but really, what's the point?, it's a character-based story, with a branching narrative, but the characters are unlikable, I only see anyone really getting into this game if they can relate to the protagonist, but then, the game doesn't seem to say anything just yet, because the game is in fucking early access so there isn't even a payoff to the story just yet.
I unironically just dont get this game
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updates: finished chapter 14 for shinsekai yori, and i'm really enjoying it
I'm still at the start of rain code, but so far it's a pretty good game
hahahaPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
i think the game is OK but i didn't expect it to re-invent the wheel or anything, it's an RPG maker game made (mostly?) by one person after all, we can only have so many of these and be revolutionary
i, too, wanted to see if this game had anything special going on besides le funny incest memegame Xdd so it's good to see we have similar views on it. hopefully it gets better when all the chapters get released
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anyway, have you played mother 3? i can give you a translated rom if you can't find one
oh yeah mother 3 was great, more of a fan of earthbound tho, can text-wall about any of those two if you want to, even if I played it a while back nowSerraionga wrote: 2l6i67
hahahaPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
i think the game is OK but i didn't expect it to re-invent the wheel or anything, it's an RPG maker game made (mostly?) by one person after all, we can only have so many of these and be revolutionary
i, too, wanted to see if this game had anything special going on besides le funny incest memegame Xdd so it's good to see we have similar views on it. hopefully it gets better when all the chapters get released
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anyway, have you played mother 3? i can give you a translated rom if you can't find one
disco elysium is my favourite game of all time, however, it's not an easy game to talk about, like, at all, look at the average length of your typical disco elysium analysis, if I truly were to go in depth I would need to write something that's as long as those videoscephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
pata can you wall-text about disco elysium i really want to see what you have to say about it
disco elysium isn't just a videogame for you to play and have fun with it. Disco elysium is art in it's purest form. It doesn't feel like it's trying to be fun, if you play disco you know what you've signed up for, and the game will remind you of it
The game in essence is a cRPG developped in estonia by a bunch of depressed communists. The premise of the game is simple, you're an insomniac detective who just woke up from a night of pure drinking in your hotel room, you learn that there is a corpse hanged up to a tree in a back-yard. Another detective by the name of kim kitsuragi also just arrived to the scene, and it's your duty to try solving the case
the actual gameplay is just pure dialogue, you read text, and then you click on the thing you want your character to say or do, there is no combat or anything here, this game is an interactive book. There are also permanent choices, that have a % chance of succcess depending on the stats of your character, that chance however can never be 100% or 0% success, and in fact, there are some checks that is better to actually fail than to succeed at.
However, the game is much more than a murder mistery, that murder mistery is just a medium for the game to disscuss politics and philosophy, nothing about "games must be apolitical", this game is hardcore, applicable to the real world, politics. And that is, because everyone in reality does have some sort of politial ideology, and when you try interviewing people for you to solve the crime, you can see that political ideology leaking in, and you can either answer to what the person is saying, or to not, in fact, some side quests require to certain political characters or groups. The main ideology this game represents are Fascism, Communism, Capitalism, and being a centrist. If you think some of the choices are a bit too extreme, dont worry, it's this way by design
There was a meme a while back saying "every copy of mario 64 is personalized!", however, every copy of disco elysium is actually personalized. There are hundreds of dialogue choices, and all of them matter, only a few hours in your playthrough is already going to be very different to the playthrough of any other person, there are also multiple endings to the game depending on the choices you make, and also luck
In this way, the RNG also works to differentiate your playthrough even further, not only that, but the RNG works as a way for you to avoid min-maxing the game and playing it following your true feelings. If you cant guarantee anything, why bother grinding it really
These dialogue choices at the start may seem kinda normal, however, the game is actually gauging your personality in the background, every choice has an impact on something, so just after a while of playing, the game will know perfectly how you are as a person, and will change some of the dialogue for other dialogue to say stuff that is relevant to you, to challenge YOUR political ideologies, to challenge YOUR philosophy. That combined with the beautifully written dialogue will give for moments that will truly impact you as a person, and it even doesn't really matter if you didn't have too many clears ideas on those more complex issues from before you played disco elysium, after you finish it, you will probably know more about yourself as a person from before you started the game.
This game is a cRPG, a computer roleplaying game, and while in many RPG you can just not roleplay and just troll or min-max or whatever, you cant do that for disco, as the only to not really RP while playing disco would be lying to yourself, and the game WILL call you out on it.
That's the core of the game, however, every fucking design choice in this game goes contrary to the industry standard. Most of the ways a story is told, you know a lot of the world, if you're reading a book it may even include a map of the world like with something with lord of the rings. You may be reading in a third person perspective with a narrator that will give you more information than the protagonist have, or you maybe can understand the design principles going into a certain piece of media to be able to successfully predict future twists or ideas, disco isn't this way. The world is bigger than you, there will be doors that you will never be able to open and explore, you will never see what the world was really before or after you left it, you don't know the backstories of any of the characters beforehand, you cant predict the game, you dont deserve to know about the actual game as you're just one of the many characters. You as a player dont have more worth than a npc
The actual philosophy of disco is... weird, and i'm not qualified enough to talk about it, but it does seem every person has a different interpretation of disco. I've seen debate over what the actual name of the game means, and if we haven't even reached a conclusion on what the words disco elysium actually means, you know you're going to be fucked trying to piece a full proof argument on the game.
Art exists for a reason, there is a reason why someone would draw a book depicting an idea instead of just writting a little summary on why they think x is bad, and that is, because art conveys feelings. A lot of feelings. With disco elysium those feelings are extremely complex, and it's actually nearly impossible to describe what disco elysium actually feels like to me, I don't have the vocabulary. Even by writting this is in a way prioritizing some feelings over others, because many of the ideas feel like they contradict, however you dont feel like there is anything wrong with it, however, when you write about it, you cant really contradict yourself in the same way and keep the same emotions.
A lot of the game feels like it's impossible, like the ending. By any metrics and following the bases of any review or literally analysis i've seen in my life, the finale is just bad. However, when you reach the ending, even if it feels like it's objectevely unfair, frustrating, unsatisfactory, underwhelming, an insult to you as a person, and a contradiction to everything you've been led to believe while playing disco, the finale is good, really good.
It's this reason why every disco elysium video is at least one hour long, and that none of the video actually share any ideas with the other videos, disco is such a fucking wild experience that it's nearly impossible to correctly portray. You can't have a matpat video here explaining a theory that supposedly resolves the game, such explanation does not seem to exist.
This games goes DEEP too, it doesn't just try to argue for certain philosophical ideas, it shows how those ideas can change a person, how that person change can change other person. This game tries to describe how you would a political extreme, why would you want to believe that, why sometimes being radical is needed, why sometimes being racial is a bad idea, what does it mean to believe in a political ideology, it shows that not having a political ideology on itself is a political ideology. It talks about love, about breakup, about depression, about addiction, about racism, about police, about the paranormal, about disco music, about death, about mental disorders, about deligion. Disco elysium can mean whatever you want it to mean, as what disco elysium teachs you is a way of thinking, not just an idea.
If you internalize what disco elysium tells you, you will learn many things. If you decide to put on the same lenses that disco elysium instructs you to use while playing the game for another videogame, you will understand shit, and probably be more depressed on the end, but that's just a side effect. In many ways, it does really make you think different about the fnaf movie and this is actually not a joke, disco elysium changed the way I see art in the first place, in many ways it's unfair to compair disco to most videogames, since disco tries to be much, much more
The game currently is on a weird legal ground, basically the developpers dont get any money, so it's morably justifiable to it over the seven seas, so feel free to do so if you want to give this masterpiece a try, there is a 2 hour video by people make games where they try breaking it down, nothing about disco elysium can be simple it seems
I haven't really touched much on the actual message of disco elysium, honesly I feel all of this falls short. but I think it's just clear why, you could try watching one of those video analysis but I dont promise you will understand much after you watch two different ones
sorry, you posted this while I was writting that post
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updates: still finishing shinsekai yori, i'm at chapter 20 rn
rain code is good, still on it, probably will take me a month to finish seeing how long the game seems to be
I never played saints row 1 or any saints row, do I need to play it to understand 2?Winnyace wrote: 3z6x1k
Review Saints Row 2
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updates: still finishing shinsekai yori, i'm at chapter 20 rn
rain code is good, still on it, probably will take me a month to finish seeing how long the game seems to be
I'm not a fan for watching a video to recap, I would have to play saints row 1 and 2 which is probably going to take a whileWinnyace wrote: 3z6x1k
Somewhat. The story is less important here since it is kinda generic and mostly just a backdrop for the gameplay. There are videos that explain the story.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I never played saints row 1 or any saints row, do I need to play it to understand 2?
if you've played it one that's enough, I personally love since I'm a sucker for cRPGs and this type of storytelling, not everyone will have the same experience as mecephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
oh hell yesPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
disco elysium is my favourite game of all time, however, it's not an easy game to talk about, like, at all, look at the average length of your typical disco elysium analysis, if I truly were to go in depth I would need to write something that's as long as those videoscephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
pata can you wall-text about disco elysium i really want to see what you have to say about it
disco elysium isn't just a videogame for you to play and have fun with it. Disco elysium is art in it's purest form. It doesn't feel like it's trying to be fun, if you play disco you know what you've signed up for, and the game will remind you of it
The game in essence is a cRPG developped in estonia by a bunch of depressed communists. The premise of the game is simple, you're an insomniac detective who just woke up from a night of pure drinking in your hotel room, you learn that there is a corpse hanged up to a tree in a back-yard. Another detective by the name of kim kitsuragi also just arrived to the scene, and it's your duty to try solving the case
the actual gameplay is just pure dialogue, you read text, and then you click on the thing you want your character to say or do, there is no combat or anything here, this game is an interactive book. There are also permanent choices, that have a % chance of succcess depending on the stats of your character, that chance however can never be 100% or 0% success, and in fact, there are some checks that is better to actually fail than to succeed at.
However, the game is much more than a murder mistery, that murder mistery is just a medium for the game to disscuss politics and philosophy, nothing about "games must be apolitical", this game is hardcore, applicable to the real world, politics. And that is, because everyone in reality does have some sort of politial ideology, and when you try interviewing people for you to solve the crime, you can see that political ideology leaking in, and you can either answer to what the person is saying, or to not, in fact, some side quests require to certain political characters or groups. The main ideology this game represents are Fascism, Communism, Capitalism, and being a centrist. If you think some of the choices are a bit too extreme, dont worry, it's this way by design
There was a meme a while back saying "every copy of mario 64 is personalized!", however, every copy of disco elysium is actually personalized. There are hundreds of dialogue choices, and all of them matter, only a few hours in your playthrough is already going to be very different to the playthrough of any other person, there are also multiple endings to the game depending on the choices you make, and also luck
In this way, the RNG also works to differentiate your playthrough even further, not only that, but the RNG works as a way for you to avoid min-maxing the game and playing it following your true feelings. If you cant guarantee anything, why bother grinding it really
These dialogue choices at the start may seem kinda normal, however, the game is actually gauging your personality in the background, every choice has an impact on something, so just after a while of playing, the game will know perfectly how you are as a person, and will change some of the dialogue for other dialogue to say stuff that is relevant to you, to challenge YOUR political ideologies, to challenge YOUR philosophy. That combined with the beautifully written dialogue will give for moments that will truly impact you as a person, and it even doesn't really matter if you didn't have too many clears ideas on those more complex issues from before you played disco elysium, after you finish it, you will probably know more about yourself as a person from before you started the game.
This game is a cRPG, a computer roleplaying game, and while in many RPG you can just not roleplay and just troll or min-max or whatever, you cant do that for disco, as the only to not really RP while playing disco would be lying to yourself, and the game WILL call you out on it.
That's the core of the game, however, every fucking design choice in this game goes contrary to the industry standard. Most of the ways a story is told, you know a lot of the world, if you're reading a book it may even include a map of the world like with something with lord of the rings. You may be reading in a third person perspective with a narrator that will give you more information than the protagonist have, or you maybe can understand the design principles going into a certain piece of media to be able to successfully predict future twists or ideas, disco isn't this way. The world is bigger than you, there will be doors that you will never be able to open and explore, you will never see what the world was really before or after you left it, you don't know the backstories of any of the characters beforehand, you cant predict the game, you dont deserve to know about the actual game as you're just one of the many characters. You as a player dont have more worth than a npc
The actual philosophy of disco is... weird, and i'm not qualified enough to talk about it, but it does seem every person has a different interpretation of disco. I've seen debate over what the actual name of the game means, and if we haven't even reached a conclusion on what the words disco elysium actually means, you know you're going to be fucked trying to piece a full proof argument on the game.
Art exists for a reason, there is a reason why someone would draw a book depicting an idea instead of just writting a little summary on why they think x is bad, and that is, because art conveys feelings. A lot of feelings. With disco elysium those feelings are extremely complex, and it's actually nearly impossible to describe what disco elysium actually feels like to me, I don't have the vocabulary. Even by writting this is in a way prioritizing some feelings over others, because many of the ideas feel like they contradict, however you dont feel like there is anything wrong with it, however, when you write about it, you cant really contradict yourself in the same way and keep the same emotions.
A lot of the game feels like it's impossible, like the ending. By any metrics and following the bases of any review or literally analysis i've seen in my life, the finale is just bad. However, when you reach the ending, even if it feels like it's objectevely unfair, frustrating, unsatisfactory, underwhelming, an insult to you as a person, and a contradiction to everything you've been led to believe while playing disco, the finale is good, really good.
It's this reason why every disco elysium video is at least one hour long, and that none of the video actually share any ideas with the other videos, disco is such a fucking wild experience that it's nearly impossible to correctly portray. You can't have a matpat video here explaining a theory that supposedly resolves the game, such explanation does not seem to exist.
This games goes DEEP too, it doesn't just try to argue for certain philosophical ideas, it shows how those ideas can change a person, how that person change can change other person. This game tries to describe how you would a political extreme, why would you want to believe that, why sometimes being radical is needed, why sometimes being racial is a bad idea, what does it mean to believe in a political ideology, it shows that not having a political ideology on itself is a political ideology. It talks about love, about breakup, about depression, about addiction, about racism, about police, about the paranormal, about disco music, about death, about mental disorders, about deligion. Disco elysium can mean whatever you want it to mean, as what disco elysium teachs you is a way of thinking, not just an idea.
If you internalize what disco elysium tells you, you will learn many things. If you decide to put on the same lenses that disco elysium instructs you to use while playing the game for another videogame, you will understand shit, and probably be more depressed on the end, but that's just a side effect. In many ways, it does really make you think different about the fnaf movie and this is actually not a joke, disco elysium changed the way I see art in the first place, in many ways it's unfair to compair disco to most videogames, since disco tries to be much, much more
The game currently is on a weird legal ground, basically the developpers dont get any money, so it's morably justifiable to it over the seven seas, so feel free to do so if you want to give this masterpiece a try, there is a 2 hour video by people make games where they try breaking it down, nothing about disco elysium can be simple it seems
I haven't really touched much on the actual message of disco elysium, honesly I feel all of this falls short. but I think it's just clear why, you could try watching one of those video analysis but I dont promise you will understand much after you watch two different ones
i have actually played it myself, though from what i've seen and heard (including this), i've barely scratched the surface of what it has to offer. i've only gone through one playthrough so far, which i went into almost completely blind and with the goal of doing whatever i felt like doing, which turned out to be solving the case and prying for as much information as i could. i got called a human can opener several times lol
my feelings about the game are pretty straightforward tbh. to me, it feels like a discussion. like i'm engaging in a conversation with the game and its narrarative, if that makes sense. and like any discussion, it hinges on the dynamic between both parties
i guess a more flowery description of what you've already said
it sucks that the devs got screwed over though, cause they've made something unlike any other game i've played, and in the best way possible. i can easily say it's one of my favorite pieces of media as a whole
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
In fact yes, it's sort of a tech demo turned into a film. It's a collection of experimental shorts put together to make a feature-length film. The film was only released direct-to-video and was considered lost media till 2015 when a LaserDisc copy was found and ripped (that's the version ed to youtube).Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
I tried looking for other feature-length pixel art films but I can't seem to find one. I'm impressed that no one made a new film in pixel-art in more than 35 years, and even taking into the technological limitations of the era. (Also, I'm impressed this movie is so obscure given the rise of 80's aesthetics. This is THE waporwave movie)
It was an impressive feat but... yeah... it's a 7/10 for me at most.
I assume it's just really difficult and not that worth it to really do pixel art films, the aesthetic is fine but I personally prefeer other types of more commonly used animationeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
In fact yes, it's sort of a tech demo turned into a film. It's a collection of experimental shorts put together to make a feature-length film. The film was only released direct-to-video and was considered lost media till 2015 when a LaserDisc copy was found and ripped (that's the version ed to youtube).Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
I tried looking for other feature-length pixel art films but I can't seem to find one. I'm impressed that no one made a new film in pixel-art in more than 35 years, and even taking into the technological limitations of the era. (Also, I'm impressed this movie is so obscure given the rise of 80's aesthetics. This is THE waporwave movie)
It was an impressive feat but... yeah... it's a 7/10 for me at most.
Jangsoodlor
bro redacted harder than the FBI. This anime is maybe one of the few that do time skip in a matter of years. From when the main cast are kids, then growing up and become adult. That alone is a great feat I thinkPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
yeah, that element really reminded me of clannad, it was cool to seeJangsoodlor wrote: 616554
bro redacted harder than the FBI. This anime is maybe one of the few that do time skip in a matter of years. From when the main cast are kids, then growing up and become adult. That alone is a great feat I thinkPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It's not just an immigration crisis, the whole country (and basically the whole world) turned into an authoritarian nightmare because of the infertility thing. That's why the characters have to go through a lot of shit, immigration is just one part of it, it just seems more important because they go through a refugee camp.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It also very lightly touches on issues like climate crisis and a few other things.
There's also a lot of references to actual events (like the Abu Ghraib torture) as well as cultural references, you'll necessarily miss some but the ones you see really help make the movie more relevant imo.
Honestly I didn't get all of it the first time I watched, but a youtube channel I follow made a video about it and after rewatching a lot of it made more sense.
This video about it is fine
Next movie you should watch: Mr. Nobody
I know the consequences of the inmmigration thing and how britain is the only place that really stands and whatever, however it just feels like ah "oh that just happened lol", and just doing refence to something isn't going in depth on that. I with oshi no ko that really had that issue where it took just real life events and stuff and kinda just put them without really saying anything about it. A reference or something being inspired by a real world event is just setting, not plot. I still don't really think that if you're just using that plot as purely world-building, which is what it is, I don't think it should take half the movie you could have used to explore the other half of the movieKarmine wrote: 4x3m25
It's not just an immigration crisis, the whole country (and basically the whole world) turned into an authoritarian nightmare because of the infertility thing. That's why the characters have to go through a lot of shit, immigration is just one part of it, it just seems more important because they go through a refugee camp.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
---
next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It also very lightly touches on issues like climate crisis and a few other things.
There's also a lot of references to actual events (like the Abu Ghraib torture) as well as cultural references, you'll necessarily miss some but the ones you see really help make the movie more relevant imo.
Honestly I didn't get all of it the first time I watched, but a youtube channel I follow made a video about it and after rewatching a lot of it made more sense.
Next movie you should watch: Mr. Nobody
will watch mr nobody