that ending was amazing i'm at a loss for words, honestly

omfg i can't believe this map is going for rank...lmao rrtyui couldn't come close to finishing it so its scoreboard might be like freedom dive's or big black's for a while

i would love to have this ranked just so i can sit back and enjoy the shitstorm \:D/

But seriously, most of the streams reaally feel out of place and have nothing to do with the song at all, i think you could do something better out of it.

ThEBonzi wrote: 1z4c4b

:> Some suggestions.

[Mysterious Hymn]

1. The transition between 00:23:295 (3) - and 00:23:469 (1) - is pretty big, just saying. in the majority of cases, the player will end up with a 100/slidebreak because of the massive spacing and ankward movement. Consider making it more simple to play. For example, making 00:23:295 (3) - only a circle would be nice. that's just a sign to spread the map into two parts, u can see completely different stuffs before and after this. just consider this as the map's "true start" with the song's track as well
2. 00:31:966 (15) - I recognize where you want to place the slider's end, but the curve of the slider itself looks ugly :<. Try to move this slider end elsewhere. agree, changed
3. 00:45:665 (1,2,3,4,5) - WHOA lol
4. 00:52:255 (3) - I think nobody would ever able to read this on sightread. I mean, try it yourself, you'll se that the jump between 00:52:255 (3) - and 00:52:428 (1) - is pretty big and unintuitive. i can read it without any pressure, so nearly 2/3 of testers as well. it require reading skills in playing, thou the map can't be played by noobs anyway.
5. 01:05:434 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - This is also pretty unintuitive :/. just emphasis the vocal
6. 01:40:983 (3) - Here, i will take a moment. Unlike 00:23:295 (3) - , this is just a circle , and that makes the pattern more simple to read and play. Hope you have understood. i understand, and hope u have understood mine.
7. 01:49:654 (15) - just like i said a few lines above, i don't particulary like the slider body :/ changed as well thou
8. 02:22:428 (3) - maybe a little hard to read, but not that pain. people who can't read this pattern will feel pain when play this map at the start
9. 03:52:168 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Think how difficult is for the player to click on the circle and then on the slider with that distance between, for example, 03:52:168 (2) - and 03:52:255 (3) - . Just reduce a bit the distance between the circle and the slider. i can full combo this pattern with no break myself. any pro prove that? r they noob to me? idk, still, i think this is just no issue in playing...
10. 03:56:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can understand this, the vocals get more acute, so increasing the spacing too,but honestly ii think these are just too much to handle. follow THE song with THE pattern, that's what i did there
11. 04:49:827 (1) - BIGGER WHOA orz
12. 05:00:925 (2,3,4,5,1) - Gratz if you manage to get the map ranked with these,i'm thinking of how much players will be able to FC. Oh well, it will be fun >.<! there's nealy no one can fc this, but have lots of players can full combo these big spaced stream, who've been tested with my request

Good luck \:D/

thx for modding ThEBonzi! i'm appreciate that this comes as a surprising random mod :3

If this gets ranked... I guess it'd be perfectly okay to go rank something like even this (taiko difficulties) seeing as we'd be perfectly okay with ranking maps that aren't of very high quality, rely on gimmicky things, and are overmapped for the sake of being overmapped.

I wouldn't want to be part of ranking or bubbling something like this in its current state (though if I was a standard BAT I'd of course want to help fix issues (ex: lots of copy/paste)), and I sincerely hope that the quality of ranked standard maps by the standard BAT hasn't fallen so low that they would want to be part of this in its current state either.

(Disclaimer: The maps I linked are great as unranked maps for high level taiko players to practice on, but in a ranked system they would be incredibly bad. I feel this map falls under the same scenario, except for standard.)

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

If this gets ranked... I guess it'd be perfectly okay to go rank something like even this (taiko difficulties) seeing as we'd be perfectly okay with ranking maps that aren't of very high quality, rely on gimmicky things, and are overmapped for the sake of being overmapped.

I wouldn't want to be part of ranking or bubbling something like this in its current state (though if I was a standard BAT I'd of course want to help fix issues (ex: lots of copy/paste)), and I sincerely hope that the quality of ranked standard maps by the standard BAT hasn't fallen so low that they would want to be part of this in its current state either.

(Disclaimer: The maps I linked are great as unranked maps for high level taiko players to practice on, but in a ranked system they would be incredibly bad. I feel this map falls under the same scenario, except for standard.)

no, it's not overmapped, for the sake of not being overmapped. ask urself what is overmap and listen to the song carefully

i'm glad if u give suggestions to map itself, not the so-called current things

whatever, i haven't request any bats to check this map so far, coz i don't think it can be ranked now. low quality with copy/paste? ur idea. i say low quality with various patterns either

still thx for taking care of this map. no offense in words, just new opinions u can't accept, that's all

Overmapping doesn't exist.
go on HW, map is good as always

Guys calm down it's just a map..... and the way it is now it's obvious it won't get ranked...


Also stop being mad at HW he's also a living person with feelings so people teaming up against him is not the fair way to go at him in this situation

Really enjoyable map
ing a rank

Sugoi-_-Desu wrote: 3s1s19

Also stop being mad at HW he's also a living person with feelings so people teaming up against him is not the fair way to go at him in this situation

Oh look, someone with common sense.

Some things I want to mention:
01:53:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I honestly dislike the Hitsounding here. I see your intention here but it just doesn't fit well to the music here.
01:59:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ^
03:18:613 (3) - Move the red Sliderpoint at 488;328 to have a better curve transition with 03:17:226 (2): http://puu.sh/aXHOc/3d8592e012.jpg
04:15:665 (3) - I find the Clap not really fitting here, it sounds a bit too random.

waiting for this to get ranked so I can drink all of the players' tears

i heard it's really hard on standard but from playing on CTB, it's impossible to fc

Stefan wrote: 72304b

Sugoi-_-Desu wrote: 3s1s19

Also stop being mad at HW he's also a living person with feelings so people teaming up against him is not the fair way to go at him in this situation

Oh look, someone with common sense. sry for late reply (2 mounth late lol

Some things I want to mention:
01:53:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I honestly dislike the Hitsounding here. I see your intention here but it just doesn't fit well to the music here. i can partly agree with u, thou i set those hs in original style which still following beats, so i think keeping them is fine.
01:59:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ^ ^
03:18:613 (3) - Move the red Sliderpoint at 488;328 to have a better curve transition with 03:17:226 (2): http://puu.sh/aXHOc/3d8592e012.jpg sure, fixed
04:15:665 (3) - I find the Clap not really fitting here, it sounds a bit too random. this is a special part in that long death stream, so i set different hs here, u can check that duo to the original song's part from 04:05:781 (1) - to 04:26:590 (1) -

thx for modding!

Sorry for the extremely long post(and if i made a formating mistake), it's basically me repeating the same suggestion at various points in the map, but i wanted to get them all.

00:26:937 (1) - add whistle
00:27:110 (2) - ^
00:27:284 (1) - ^
00:32:139 (1) - ^
00:32:313 (2) - ^
00:32:660 (5) - ^
00:33:353 (3) - ^
00:33:527 (1) - ^
00:34:047 (4) - ^
00:38:035 (1) - ^
00:38:209 (2) - ^
00:38:382 (1) - ^
01:42:545 (13) - ^
00:43:411 (3) - ^
00:44:278 (13) - ^
00:44:625 (1) - ^
01:44:625 (1) - ^
01:44:798 (2) - ^
01:46:705 (7) - ^
01:49:827 (1) - ^
01:50:001 (2) - ^
01:51:214 (1) - ^
01:55:723 (1) - ^
01:55:723 (1) - ^
01:55:897 (2) - ^
01:56:070 (1) - ^
01:51:735 (4) - ^
01:56:417 (2) - ^
01:57:804 (7) - ^
02:02:139 (15) - ^
02:02:313 (1) - ^
04:31:099 (1) - ^
04:31:272 (2) - ^
04:36:301 (1) - ^
04:36:475 (2) - ^
04:37:168 (1) - ^
04:37:688 (1) - ^
04:38:209 (4) - ^
04:42:197 (1) - ^
04:42:371 (2) - ^
04:42:544 (1) - ^
04:47:573 (3) - ^
00:32:833 - remove whistle
01:44:972 - ^
01:50:174 - ^
01:51:388 - ^
01:56:243 - ^
01:56:590 - ^
04:31:619 - ^
04:37:862 - ^
04:42:717 - ^

now, about the 01:53:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) part, i would suggest redoing it like this:
01:53:989 (1) - hitfinish
01:54:075 (2) - no hitsound
01:54:162 (3) - here use a hitsound like this one http://puu.sh/cv1rC/bafd5ae7da.wav
01:54:248 (4) - hitfinish
01:54:335 (5) - hitclap
01:54:422 (6) - no hitsound
01:54:508 (7) - hitfinish
01:54:596 (8) - no hitsound
01:54:683 (9) - hitsound i ed above
01:54:855 (11) - hitwhistle and hitfinish
01:54:943 (12) - hitclap
01:55:030 (13) - hitfinish
01:55:116 (14) - no hitsound
01:55:203 (15) - hitwhistle finish and clap

HW啊
地球人跟你有什么大仇啊

这图CTB HT 打到3/4跪了.......



但是这图好好玩啊OwO
希望能成功App

EDIT

最后开了HTNF....
居然能300+combo咱柑橘自己 好厉害/w\(被打飞 好弱qwq

This map is so fun to play :3
ing all the way to rank!
Gogo ^^/

Goonychan wrote: 2g322x

Sorry for the extremely long post(and if i made a formating mistake), it's basically me repeating the same suggestion at various points in the map, but i wanted to get them all. sry but i've checked ur mod and reject almost all... coz ur mods r mainly give hs suggesion, which i've worked in a really general system or style. so i'll leave most of them and give a tiny change and adjustment to some part... still thx for taking care of this.

thx for modding!

sb in, enjoy.

Mod for request

[General]

1. Add ZUN to tags

[Mysterious Hymn]

1. 00:02:486 - i may choose to add a note her, also 00:03:873 - 00:08:035 - 00:09:423 - if you agree with the prev
2. 00:05:434 (1) - 260:343?
3. 01:09:943 (3,4) - ctrl+g? also 01:10:290 (1,2) - ctrl+g separately if you agree with the prev
4. 01:17:226 (1) - a 3/4 slider might be better
5. 01:44:972 (1,2) - ^

就先写到这里了，后面的快速看了下也是大同小异没什么本质性的地方，照着前面这几条参考愿意改的都是一个路子，不愿意也随意了。

平心而论，我还是不太赞同在这种曲子上用这种方式到处甩stream，同样的脑洞大开式的mapping style一次两次可以，但总是一个样子而且这张图还在不停的就绕着1、2个梗转来转去就让人觉得有些无聊了。

至少在看过一次之后，我暂时还没有那种“看到就认为值得给泡”的程度。我需要仔细想想，同时认为你也需要稍微认真想一下你的Mapping。

有所成名之后很容易被环境的吹捧和赞美带到里的，请不要固步自封。

Scorpiour wrote: 2pj3z

Mod for request

[General]

1. Add ZUN to tags fixed

[Mysterious Hymn]

1. 00:02:486 - i may choose to add a note her, also 00:03:873 - 00:08:035 - 00:09:423 - if you agree with the prev ??!?!?!?!!!? i still wanna keep the normal ones ;w;
2. 00:05:434 (1) - 260:343? good but i prefer the current one.
3. 01:09:943 (3,4) - ctrl+g? also 01:10:290 (1,2) - ctrl+g separately if you agree with the prev wow i'll be too diffcult if i change this orz
4. 01:17:226 (1) - a 3/4 slider might be better ;w; all stream blablablabla
5. 01:44:972 (1,2) - ^ ^

就先写到这里了，后面的快速看了下也是大同小异没什么本质性的地方，照着前面这几条参考愿意改的都是一个路子，不愿意也随意了。

平心而论，我还是不太赞同在这种曲子上用这种方式到处甩stream，同样的脑洞大开式的mapping style一次两次可以，但总是一个样子而且这张图还在不停的就绕着1、2个梗转来转去就让人觉得有些无聊了。

至少在看过一次之后，我暂时还没有那种“看到就认为值得给泡”的程度。我需要仔细想想，同时认为你也需要稍微认真想一下你的Mapping。

有所成名之后很容易被环境的吹捧和赞美带到里的，请不要固步自封。我美酒了OVQ

thx for modding!

umm... i dont know if it was told before but... if its going for approval, it cant have less than 5.00 minutes D:
try to make it 1 second longer

[Nemesis] wrote: 311c6s

umm... i dont know if it was told before but... if its going for approval, it cant have less than 5.00 minutes D:
try to make it 1 second longer

u can get into game and see if it's longer than 5 mins, it's 4:59 coz auto timing length didn't count spinners', true length is far more longer than that.

2/10. You tried at least. The 1/4 you can barely hear while listening to the song is impossible to hear while playing because of hitsounds. I am not hating HW, I am against this map being ranked because of "overmap" which takes the pleasure out of the RHYTHM game (not every overmap though). If I'm in mood to mash perma 173 BPM the whole map I'd rather play Stream Practice Maps.

I really can't see why this beatmap is creative. But now I do see why people keeps calling some of HW's maps really random.

@EDIT: I know that it is not overmapped, but it feels like. Also I change my mind, I like this map for warmup

woohoo, stream party!

P. S. It is not overmapped. Listen to the hitsounds carefully.

+Starred.

At last , the sb has finally in! :>

How can you say that there is 1/4 in the song and then that the 1/4 in the map is overmapped?

这sb，服了

Mei wrote: 3h1f57

这sb，服了

How is this map not ranked it is so good and well made! Great job!

Okay, so I've been reading through the thread, and some of the hate I'm seeing is really unnecessary, so to clarify the 1/4 for some people;

It's there. Almost all of the streams have been mapped to quite clear 1/4 hihats in the background - this an an Extra, and it is perfectly fine to map to sounds that are harder to hear. The fact that you can't hear it doesn't mean that it's not there, and if it is, it's not overmapped. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's fine to dislike this map, but that doesn't warrant bashing on it without even trying to give suggestions to help improve it. You can either give suggestions for the mapper, them, or stay quiet. There is absolutely no value in going on a map's thread to say "this is shit", "I'll kill myself if this gets ranked", "watch BATs rank this because they have no clue of what a good map is", and so on. All you're doing with that is hurting the mapper's feelings, which is unnecessary. They put a lot of effort into their map, and then someone comes and completely crushes their excitement over their finished product.

A map's difficulty isn't the main factor that determines its rankability or playability. Just look at this map - Inbachi is a very good difficulty, it fits the song well and has good rhythm and flow, but it's 8.31 stars. Despite that, it'd still be rankable with enough modding, and the scoreboards also wouldn't be filled with FC's. It's not inherently bad for a scoreboard to not be filled with FC's - it just means that the map is difficult. It says very little about the quality of the map, and it isn't a real reason not to rank it.

There are plenty of easier ranked maps that aren't really all that enjoyable, but get no complaints because people can play them. This need to bash mappers that make difficult maps needs to stop. It's childish and it doesn't help any mapper with their map. Even if the map is absolute shit, you're not helping the mapper improve by saying things like that. Maybe next time you can try to post in a thread when you have something of value to say, or at least post a decently-sized mod pointing out precisely why the mapper is shit, instead of just saying that they are. And be nice about it. It's not like the mapper punched you in the face. They placed circles to a song for fuck's sakes.

I'm sorry for the long post, but I'm tired of seeing people needlessly bash a map without putting any effort into helping it improve. It's low to do and inhibits a mapper's creativity, because they become afraid of being attacked for trying something new, which causes maps to be of a quality lower than what they could've been.

I really enjoy playing this map. I did from the first time I played, and I still would if I weren't sick at the moment. It's one of my favorite maps in the game, which is why is decided to post this. It needs more , and I hope that it gets ranked soon. It'll add some more colour to our immense pool of TV size maps that just seem to be mapped to be rankable, instead of being impressive, unique, and enjoyable. Shooting you a star.

Tess wrote: 191a2j

O It's not like the mapper punched you in the face.

i think its perfectly ok for a mapper to punch somebody in the face after all the 'i'll kill my self' 'this map is shit' things.


Or you can just watch 'em killing themselves

SB有点美>w<

make a map for 0.2% of the players play, gratters

HW, you are genius.

jesus christ is it happening

Tarrasky wrote: 2d1w7

make a map for 0.2% of the players play, gratters

That's way more interesting than making a map that 99,98% players can play.

handsome wrote: 483w1s

jesus christ is it happening

not till it gets bubbled

Tarrasky wrote: 2d1w7

make a map for 0.2% of the players play, gratters

Somebody must do it.
I don't understand why ppl doesn't like harsh maps lol ;;

Bubbled #1

and the reason i finally decide to bubble this map:

tbh, personally i'm not very satisfied with the "style", and it's also looked "too hard" than usually this kinda song supposed to be.

However, there have been too many "safely mapping style" maps in the community which makes the mapping circumstance lifeless. With the improving overall mapping skill of mappers, homogenization issue increasingly serious as well.

so i wish this bubble may encourage mappers to, at least, think about the creative.

hype !

hype !

it's happening!! :O

CSLMVenezuela wrote: 2r5k5t

it's happening!! :O

Genocide wrote: 554z1

hype !

that double post o-o

10nya wrote: 3r5zd

CSLMVenezuela wrote: 2r5k5t

it's happening!! :O

Although I also have a pressing hope to push this map forward, I have to pop it first, sorry.

The following hitsounds are unused:
soft-slidertick2.wavdrum-hitwhistle3.wav
I'm not sure whether the rule contains spinnerspin.wav, but you'd better fix the delay about 30ms of it.
soft-hitclap.wav has a 3ms delay, although it's ok for rule, consider to fix it.

Not so much issues on the map, although it's so crazy.
You can call Scorpiour to have a recheck before poking me back.

Minakami Yuki wrote: 2m156v

Although I also have a pressing hope to push this map forward, I have to pop it first, sorry.

1. Just some complaints.
2. My personal suggestions.
3. Highly recommended.
4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

The following hitsounds are unused: removed both.

1. soft-slidertick2.wav
2. drum-hitwhistle3.wav

I'm not sure whether the rule contains spinnerspin.wav, but you'd better fix the delay about 30ms of it. fixed.
soft-hitclap.wav has a 3ms delay, although it's ok for rule, consider to fix it. fixed.

Mysterious Hymn 4z6y4q

1. 00:44:625 (1,2,3) - compare with other similar patterns, so you can make it a bigger jump? very good, changed.
2. 01:22:688 (5) - if you can nc here... also same to the following as 01:33:873 (5) - not necessary.
3. 04:10:289 (5,6,7,8,9) - why? that 7 uhh. regular heptagon right? not necessary as well.
4. 04:25:116 (16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make this in a curve is better, since such a long stream will be end soon. changed to another style.
5. 04:27:110 (4,5,6,7,8) - enlarge the ds? very good, changed.

Not so much issues on the map, although it's so crazy.
You can call Scorpiour to have a recheck before poking me back.

thx for modding!

star for awesome map~
good work with this one ^_^

Fine.
Rebubbled! #1

Post back on the thread when you are ready for bubble #2

irc with lust and avoid some unrankble issues, fixed a bit stuff and ready to move on now.

Bubble #2

瞎了

sweet <3

瞎了

瞎了
(ﾉﾟωﾟ)

?!!?!?!!!!wwwwwwwww

AFK大法好

HYPE

rank前纪念一下，音效很深刻

IT IS HAPPENING

omg

HYPE

HYPE

RRT FC THIS PLS!

HYPE

lol

Posting because here's creating history (=ﾟωﾟ)ﾉ

Finally about to be ranked. HYPE

CANNOT WAIT

helloiamcheckingthis.

01:41:157 (1) - 这个我感觉ctrl+G效果更好
02:24:162 (8,9,10,11) - touching the HP bar due to auto stacking, please fix it.
03:06:128 (2,1) - http://puu.sh/dEiEM/c905a99413.jpg这里怎么overlap了一点啊我好伤心啊
03:31:619 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不知为何没音效，shi漏了么
02:59:191 - 这段的音量可能要稍微提一点，我的劣质耳机提醒我inaudible了
03:06:128 (2) - 尾巴忘记drum sampleset了？
03:13:064 (1) - ^

For the incoming drama: This map is not overmapped as those streams are mapped to the apparent sounds in the song.

hyyyyyype

Oracle wrote: 1s2h4h

helloiamcheckingthis.

01:41:157 (1) - 这个我感觉ctrl+G效果更好 还是现在这样好，不然连续两个逆向flow太别手了，
02:24:162 (8,9,10,11) - touching the HP bar due to auto stacking, please fix it. fixed.
03:06:128 (2,1) - http://puu.sh/dEiEM/c905a99413.jpg这里怎么overlap了一点啊我好伤心啊 怎么那么强迫症，其实这俩滑条overlap了一圈不是这么一点啦，感觉还行就这样吧。
03:31:619 (1,2,3,4,5) - 不知为何没音效，shi漏了么 不是，这里确实没有音效。
02:59:191 - 这段的音量可能要稍微提一点，我的劣质耳机提醒我inaudible了 changed.
03:06:128 (2) - 尾巴忘记drum sampleset了？ changed. 本来确实是故意不加的，不过还是加了吧。
03:13:064 (1) - ^ ^

For the incoming drama: This map is not overmapped as those streams are mapped to the apparent sounds in the song.

thx for modding!

THE HYPE IS REAL!!!!

it's happening.jpg

drama incoming

what drama

LAST MINUTE STARS GIVEN!!

FUKN HYPPPPE

!

HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Hw恭喜
这么快啊 www

恭喜
看看有沒有戏看

哇恭喜

Mei wrote: 3h1f57

恭喜
看看有沒有戏看

we have a winner here


jk ily desu gun

Gaia wrote: 4j9o

we have a winner here


jk ily desu gun

xxdeathx wrote: 116331

Congratulations!

Such amazing map(especially the sound effect
Anyhow, congratulation!

BAT thinks before they are ranking sth ? Because from end of 2013 it looks like some have problems with it. Also I agree that it's not bad map but it's still something what makes me think about the purpose of raniking criterias. It's more of an art for art sake.

Congrats!

I think it's good maps like this are getting ranked. It's a step towards harder stuff getting ranked.

Congratulations Hollow Wings

吓得我都飞到了天上

omg, congrats. make my day when another AR10 gets ranked

Kaguya Hourain wrote: 522m2e

xxdeathx wrote: 116331

First ranked play on this map!

xxdeathx wrote: 116331

First ranked play on this map!

and get 0pp

　

还有人记得这张图当初的模样吗？
Halozy - Gennryuu Kaiko (Hollow Wings) [Waterfall]
What was the map like when first made ↑

转眼间萌萌的HW都要AFK了.

Autumn wrote: 2d2863

还有人记得这张图当初的模样吗？
Halozy - Gennryuu Kaiko (Hollow Wings) [Waterfall]
What was the map like when first made ↑

转眼间萌萌的HW都要AFK了.

吓得我飞了起来