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Frostmourne wrote: 4k533o

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song
I have the latter feeling.
Quoting the obviously.

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.
You can see and example for the 1st option.

_tear wrote: 4d4d6n

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.
Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.
Yep, like in the third song, where everyone will map to the vocals because the beat is extremely repetitive. What's the point on that?
First option isn't really an example of "you can variate" because it's the same song looped 4 times.

But I'm not complaining anymore.
Nice Contest, Definetly i will
The first one is actually looped 2 times. Surely if it's possible to map crossing field 6 times, it should be no problem to map this just twice? :P

deadbeat wrote: 3l3a6y

wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests

i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin

fendi22 wrote: 34948

deadbeat wrote: 3l3a6y

wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests

i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin
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This is the forum about Skinning, please stop going off-topic here now.

bmin11 wrote: v

There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15



This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue
Why couldn't they use this version? It's a bit longer but has the good parts of the song. Is cut better. It ends well.
Hey guys, I've finished the Hard Diff of Pink Nightmares, but it feels really awkward...

I think would be cool if we could use the Original or the Video cut...

Pleaseee!! :?
well good luck for everyone who try to participate (iwant to enter but im a 10 yr old kid)
Good luck to all <3
I think I should try this :D
On fuss fuzz, add a red timing point at 00:00:386 so people can use green inherited points in the start. (You can do it in all the diffs)
I got a question. :?:
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)

If each question is answered, THANK U!

Awesomez53 wrote: 3b3a2p

I got a question. :?:
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)

If each question is answered, THANK U!
1. You can Submit max 3 difficulties per song
2. Only osu! standard. ( Don't bother for the playability in the other modalities )
Please be aware that you shall not name your difficulties different than "Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane" to keep the judgement unbiased and anonymous.
Also be aware that this contest has three brackets tho it has three 1st places.
There won't be a winner among all songs . All songs can be considered as separated in judgement and therefore in prizing.
This should probably go into OP, it's a pretty important thing
Is there another name for super difficult insane diffs? Like for those with a EHX spread.
We usually call it Extra/Expert because of the X
It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
There's a few widely used naming conventions
Easy Normal Hard Insane Extra
Beginner Normal Hyper Another Extra
Insane is sometimes Lunatic in touhou maps.
Extreme..?
Good luck:)

Andrea wrote: ev47

It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities
Anoky_old
Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.

Anoky wrote: 292g1p

Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.
Somehow I agree.
Mainly because I never able to map without background (imagine playing/mapping with solid, boring blue background) I can say backgrounds represent the visual for the song you played/mapped.

HakuNoKaemi wrote: z6c2f

Andrea wrote: ev47

It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.
Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities
That spread would be terrible, you know that, right?

There's a big lack of difficulties that way, if you would do that.
just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.

Scorpiour wrote: 2pj3z

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
I don't understand that, sorry.

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

Scorpiour wrote: 2pj3z

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
I don't understand that, sorry.
Seconded,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing "mapper's will" is what was meant.
dato93
goodluck everyone.

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

Scorpiour wrote: 2pj3z

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.
I don't understand that, sorry.
sorry wrong typing

*mapper
Topic Starter

Anoky wrote: 292g1p

Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.
and will be changed after the contest.
Raxia-
Good Luck Guys! :D
Good Luck for everyone! :D
GOODLUCK GUYS!!!!! :3
Ugh I'm so late on this. I'll try my best anyhow!


NOOOO! no custom hitsounds? D: I had the perfect setup for pink nightmares...


Also, how about making a huge mapset for the participants after the contest? :) It would be quite a waste to let the maps go unnoticed or having to rank them separately.
good luck guys ^^
That huge mapset idea is pretty great :D For the first 2 or 3 places in each song, or all maps judges find good enough for rank.
i tried to submit and it says "You have not submitted all the required files" .-.

i submitted 3 diffs
Good Luck For The Participants :D =w=
그래 개삘이다 해볼까 ?/
개삘인대 나도 해볼까 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Osu! > Those other online games.
Nice.
Im exiteced about the map's you will bring to us :)
ok the submision is failing ..... i cant get my map submited.....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ssgh82mx8lawb ... submit.jpg


there is a image showing it ......(in case u ask... those are the file sizes)
Keep in mind that the submission deadline ends very soon, on the 22nd June 2013. Please don't forget to finish your maps submit your entries as soon as possible.

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

Keep in mind that the submission deadline ends very soon, on the 22nd June 2013. Please don't forget to finish your maps submit your entries as soon as possible.
thanks for reminding! (?
Topic Starter
the submission has been fixed sorry about that guys, I'm debating on extending the submission date by a week to deal with the fact some may not have noticed it has been repaired but to anyone that is still having issues submitting please me right away!

Edit: it will be extended.
why? it wasn't broken to the point that submissions were stopped. i already ed all people who had broken submissions (all one of them) and they have re-ed.
Topic Starter
I was under the impression some couldn't even submit at all.
no.
Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents

Kert wrote: 2b4n2o

Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents

This

I'm out of the contest. Finished the insane but have no time for the rest...
why are you requesting an extension shortly before the deadline when you could've said something when the contest started .-.

Kert wrote: 2b4n2o

Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents
Exactly. My exam session finishes at 29th, so working for the contest would result in loosing scholarship.
I didn't even try to finish anything because I knew I won't be able to participate.
Not like I'm asking for an extension, just saying that the dates were not the best choice.
Just by looking at the amount of submissions I say the deadline should be extended. Only 13 sets for all 3 songs, with only 2 submissions for Rooftop Run.

ztrot wrote: 1s6e

Submission Deadline: 2013, 22nd June, 24:00 GMT+0

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2013, 20th June, 18:10 GMT+1 here, I know fuses and so, but that's a bit more than 1 day earlier O.O
I've fixed the deadline. Now set to 22nd at 00:00 UTC+0
The submission count is awfully low... not sure if people are able to finish the sets in time. If the submissions are really low at the end, maybe consider extending the deadline?
There's a lot of people asking for one in the thread.
i agree that extending the deadline would be a lot better
2-7-5
I feel sorry to the second runner up... from 2
I'd extend it by about a week or so. If people can't work within a specified time frame, then that brings their own ability and commitment into question. Of course, if there've only seen a bunch of subpar, rushed efforts, then that's more than enough of a reason to extend the deadline. I wouldn't want to see a half-hearted pile of dross winning the contest by proxy.

ztrot wrote: 1s6e

Submission Deadline: 2013, 22nd June, 24:00 GMT+0
The deadline in the OP is still 24 hours later...
The amount of submissions will probably raise right before the deadline, but still - I don't expect it to be any good frequency anyways. I wanted to map all the 3 songs but I simply had no time to map 3 full sets of forced songs in the given time, same as a lot of people present here. I think people should've been given time to at least try participating in all the categories, because making a good beatmap takes a lot of it.

jacob wrote: 163e57

i agree that extending the deadline would be a lot better
I agree too ;w;
I propose moving it to at least Tuesday 0:00 GMT so we at least have the weekend. And yes, Tuesday, not Monday, to ensure that those of us in the Americas have the entire weekend (including the wee hours of the morning).
I'm only offering an extension if people reply stating they have started a map for this competition and plan on completing it given more time.
Extension plz~~ Currently working on one, and an extra weekend will be nice.
I have started to map one of these songs. Considering that not even one diff is finished and that I'm also interested in mapping another song, an extension would be really great.
I've almost completed the hardest diff, but there's still a pretty difficult part to map left... Not to mention other 2 diffs. It's not very doable in this small amount of time left. And that's why moving the deadline is very important
I need to map half mapset, didn't find the time nor motivation before
We've had nearly a month to finish those maps, I kind of disagree on extending the time but meh.

Procrastination at it's best I guess
Adding 1 more week so it's a full month won't hurt though, I think.
uh... from what I've seen/heard, a number of people have recently already submitted their entries under the impression that the deadline is very near. Given that revision to submissions is impossible, extension sounds quite unfair.

RLC wrote: l1c5m

uh... from what I've seen/heard, a number of people have recently already submitted their entries under the impression that the deadline is very near. Given that revision to submissions is impossible, extension sounds quite unfair.
This
That's true actually, since those mappers could improve their maps and not rushing to submit them.

RLC wrote: l1c5m

uh... from what I've seen/heard, a number of people have recently already submitted their entries under the impression that the deadline is very near. Given that revision to submissions is impossible, extension sounds quite unfair.
I was ing the extension, but this is a very valid point...
The deadline is more than 1 day... they had 1 full day to prepare their maps, no need to rush unless paranoic.

I've mapped one full set and almost finished the second one, I'd like to have some time for the third as well...

fartownik wrote: 3l1h

The deadline is more than 1 day... they had 1 full day to prepare their maps, no need to rush unless paranoic.

I've mapped one full set and almost finished the second one, I'd like to have some time for the third as well...
The fact remains that almost a whole month has ed, if someone hasn't finished a single map in that time i'm pretty sure they've procrastinated it a lot, which would still mean that it's unfair towards the other people who mapped it in time

Kyshiro wrote: 4e1a38

fartownik wrote: 3l1h

The deadline is more than 1 day... they had 1 full day to prepare their maps, no need to rush unless paranoic.

I've mapped one full set and almost finished the second one, I'd like to have some time for the third as well...
The fact remains that almost a whole month has ed, if someone hasn't finished a single map in that time i'm pretty sure they've procrastinated it a lot, which would still mean that it's unfair towards the other people who mapped it in time


Seriously, if you didn't finish in time YOU DIDN'T.
It's not like if rushing for one more week you will finish a GREAT mapset.
People had already 3 weeks before.
If you ask me, asking for a time extension is totally unfair to the people who already turned in their works. If it happens to get extended, those people who submitted should somehow be notified and all the maps that were submitted should be erased so people can polish their works if they want to, before submitting again.
you people should start a 1337mappers war because of this, definitely
i've finished half of my mapset, and there's no way i can finish it unless there's a time extension

jacob wrote: 163e57

i've finished half of my mapset, and there's no way i can finish it unless there's a time extension
Well, perhaps you should've started earlier, or worked on it more often, no matter what people say it'll still be unfair imo.
There's still 1 day and a couple of hours left though

lolcubes wrote: 331p4a

If you ask me, asking for a time extension is totally unfair to the people who already turned in their works. If it happens to get extended, those people who submitted should somehow be notified and all the maps that were submitted should be erased so people can polish their works if they want to, before submitting again.
This, essentially.
What about a poll?

Kyshiro wrote: 4e1a38

jacob wrote: 163e57

i've finished half of my mapset, and there's no way i can finish it unless there's a time extension
Well, perhaps you should've started earlier, or worked on it more often, no matter what people say it'll still be unfair imo.
There's still 1 day and a couple of hours left though
An extension until the end of the weekend wouldn't be *too* unfair - that's what, just an extra day or two? - but yeah, anything more than that would be kind of crazy.

ztrot, this is why you don't temporarily extend deadlines without consulting certain people first. As you can see, you opened up a whole can of worms. :P
I don't see a problem with notifying the mappers that already submitted their sets when there's a time extension and providing them with a possibility to update their maps.

fartownik wrote: 3l1h

I don't see a problem with notifying the mappers that already submitted their sets when there's a time extension and providing them with a possibility to update their maps.
I agree, would be fair
ztrot isn't guilty

Extension by 1 day gives like nothing. I agree with Andrea here, one additional week would be fine atleast for me.
After all, isn't it better when more people can participate and make their submissions? It's isn't owc when there's a lot of difficulties gathering teams at a certain time.
And by the way it's already pretty difficult to make a full high quality mapset within a month even if you don't have other important stuff to do, let alone 'contest' quality
@Kert: Personally, I would've loved it if ztrot hadn't undone the extension. Just saying if he had never done that then this extension discussion likely would never have taken off.

fartownik wrote: 3l1h

I don't see a problem with notifying the mappers that already submitted their sets when there's a time extension and providing them with a possibility to update their maps.
^Yeah, I'd like it if this was done.
I think an 'Elite Mapper' would be able to finish a map in time IMO.

[Luanny] wrote: 5e3432

I think an 'Elite Mapper' would be able to finish a map in time IMO.
My current motivation currently is like I won't finish my map today anymore, but if it gets extended I'd continue on it tomorrow.

Ayu wrote: 1h6g2b

My current motivation currently is like I won't finish my map today anymore, but if it gets extended I'd continue on it tomorrow.
pretty much

Kyshiro wrote: 4e1a38

We've had nearly a month to finish those maps, I kind of disagree on extending the time but meh.

Procrastination at it's best I guess
I have exams (session or how do you call it) from 27.05 to 29.06. What procrastination are you talking about, huh?
No matter the decision, it has to be made, and it has to be made ASAP. Please staff, inform us what you get.
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