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Hmm, surely i'm not the best one to name songs....but I guess that the challenges should be structured on (obviously) the usage of a Mod + a certain quantity of accuracy acquired like:

  • - FC "xxxxx" with acc > 98% with HR

    or

    - SS 3 Taiko only maps with HD
These are just random examples :D
Topic Starter

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

  • - FC "xxxxx" with acc > 98% with HR
What I can do everyday :D

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

- SS 3 Taiko only maps with HD
I only have 1 :(
.
Noobita, don't be so butthurt. This thread hasn't gone to shit yet.. you never know.

Sounds great idea. Here's a couple for ya.

HR challenges:
Full combo Silver Forest - Souon!! with 99.73% or better.
Notes/Tips-
~The map is 180bpm
~Has very low OD, only at 3.
~A lot of repeat patterns. Memorize similar sections to make the whole map simpler.

Full combo Ryu* Vs. Sota - Go Beyond!! Alace's Taiko with 99% or better OR S Full Combo Shalon's Taiko.
Notes/Tips-
~200bpm
~Average OD 5
~Alace's Taiko's Kiai Time is simple, but is the most complicated piece. Practice off HR before going to HR.
~Shalon's Taiko is complex with many dddkd-type patterns and some random kat placement in the long streams.



I'll post more as I think of them. I'll need your help as players to determine how challenging these are for normal players, so let me know what you think.
I'll give both of the second one a try, especially since I'm trying to break into the 200bpm zone right now for FCing and HR. Plus, it would give me a good excuse to get off my ass and stop being lazy about finally trying to SS something.

Edit: wtf you mean by normal players?? wut, we not GOOD enough to live up to YOUR standards? /mockanger
Oh god. Not this again.






NO YOU ALL SUCK AND I'M BETTER THAN NOOBITA
/sarcasm

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Noobita, don't be so butthurt. This thread hasn't gone to shit yet.. you never know.

Sounds great idea. Here's a couple for ya.

HR challenges:
Full combo Silver Forest - Souon!! with 99.73% or better.
Notes/Tips-
~The map is 180bpm
~Has very low OD, only at 3.
~A lot of repeat patterns. Memorize similar sections to make the whole map simpler.

Full combo Ryu* Vs. Sota - Go Beyond!! Alace's Taiko with 99% or better OR S Full Combo Shalon's Taiko.
Notes/Tips-
~200bpm
~Average OD 5
~Alace's Taiko's Kiai Time is simple, but is the most complicated piece. Practice off HR before going to HR.
~Shalon's Taiko is complex with many dddkd-type patterns and some random kat placement in the long streams.



I'll post more as I think of them. I'll need your help as players to determine how challenging these are for normal players, so let me know what you think.
These two seem quite good, by the way i think that it'll be better to discuss about it in #taiko.
And also....without offence....but the challenges should be discussed by experts
Makes sense. But I'm curious as to what you mean by expert? Expert of what? If you mean, taiko in general I'm sure I qualified for it.
Semi retired, semi HR player, please

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

- SS 3 Taiko only maps with HD
so impossibru for me
----
will post some random scores later
SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>

Don Omar wrote: 3c644s

Noob colour for me
No, it's mine :cry:
Ussuru

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
I saw this thread while missing the old one.
The old one was in the Introductions subboard, so that's probably why you missed it

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
Wut, do-don points ? xD


EDIT :

Some 180 BPM DT :<

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

These two seem quite good, by the way i think that it'll be better to discuss about it in #taiko.
And also....without offence....but the challenges should be discussed by experts
I think he was asking how the maps were for players that aren't just taiko gods. It's not like additional opinions hurt, anyway. If I'm irrelevant because I'm noob, just ignore me lol.

I tried both beatmaps of Go Beyond!! last night for a while and came to the conclusion that, for me, [Shalon]'s taiko and Alace's taiko are pretty distant in of difficulty. Alace's map for being "more complex" is actually in my grasp to complete the proposed challenge, but [Shalon]'s map I'm a far way from even being able to . They also require different specific taiko skills to do, and it really feels like [Shalon]'s map is just more difficult period rather than they're a set of skills that I'm just not good with. I don't think the grace of just S'ing [Shalon]'s makes up for it compared to Alace's. Anyone wanting to just cheese something to get HR specialist would just pick Alace's taiko I'm sure.
Everyone has their own skillset too Rydin. Some people are great with long streams and complicated patterns, but can't do mods like DT or HD at all. Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all. Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn. I agree with you in the sense that Shalon's Taiko is much more challenging than Alace's, but since both maps are viable HR challenges, I gave the option for either or.

Also, that is an insane DT score there Nash, nice one :D
And what ARE do-don points? O.o

NeoRainier wrote: 4nb4c

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

SS? I don't even know of any HD SS's YOU have neo >.>
I actually don't know...but probably around 30
Btw you're surely into the expert side...that is kinda uh...70/100 of do-don points.
I guess that while i'm barely in, a Xayphon is around 90
I think Neo just stuttered xD

That would explain "do-don"
Dropping by to flip everyone and claim a limeblue name and stuff.
Haereticus


HD tnx, i'm noob in DT(NC) :?
random play



sightread
這樣?
raaaaaaaaaaank maaaaaaaaaps boooooooooooooring
u.u regular HR please
Hello Gezo. I'd like a Half Green/Half Black name. After the TWC, I will fully retire.

Backfire wrote: 6u6t2o

Hello Gezo. I'd like a Half Green/Half Black name. After the TWC, I will fully retire.
*Background music starts playing

And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust


Sigh, all of america's good players are retiring :?

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

And what ARE do-don points? O.o
Something like a ranking metric i came up with randomly
DT / HR ♥

Some Records



↑ (Yousei Teikoku - Kokou no Sousei 1.25x speed up ver.)
HD status plz :D
Glad to see that, your thread is still alive \:D/
Also, long time no post but.....I managed to Gothic System after so many months \:D/

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Everyone has their own skillset too Rydin. Some people are great with long streams and complicated patterns, but can't do mods like DT or HD at all. Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all. Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn. I agree with you in the sense that Shalon's Taiko is much more challenging than Alace's, but since both maps are viable HR challenges, I gave the option for either or.
This is very true and I considered it, but I still kind of felt that Shalon's is drastically harder that unless the player is good enough that the song is trivial, it's a noticeable enough gap.

But, of course, I can't even it and I only really started playing a month ago so hell if I know :U.
Wait for me xCROSSx :3

Topic Starter

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Some are great with HR at any BPM, but can't HD at all.
/me feels targeted
I wasn't targeting anyone.

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Some are great with HR at any BPM
feels like Gezo, Akita-Neru, iketa etc. but it's just me. #randommention

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Some have incredible speed but can't stream worth a damn.
Shit, they found out! Escape plan B...... Time to flee! :o

EDIT: To be honest, I can switch in a stream at least 2 times before it becomes garbage :P

EDiT#2: Today's tasty score \o/ + Nightcore & Hidden
*Tomorrow's will be another Nightcore but faster

Slih is here

first dt try's today:

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Wait for me xCROSSx :3

different offsets? wut
Topic Starter

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

I wasn't targeting anyone.
That's why "I feel", not "I am" :P
So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk

without even thinking about it. The rest of the song I played like ass but I am amazed and kind of excited for how I'm finally able to stream longer 1/4s like that.

Just before I played that song and did that I was considering posting and asking if I might be doing something wrong with longer streams, but I think it's just that it's taking a lot of effort to switch my mind from wanting to read an entire pattern then do it to having to read a pattern while doing it at the same time. It gets kind of impractical to try and read and prepare for a whole 1/4 stream when it's 7 or more notes, but it's how I've always done 2, 3, 4, and 5 note patterns. Did other people encounter this sort of issue when learning2taiko or is this just a me thing?
Can I be a HR player
I try rly hard I promise


None of them are super hard but the accuracy is probably good?
I'll take one of them "Retired Status" thingies.

[Rdyjin] wrote: 2y2w1v

So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk
Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s

MMzz wrote: 2g46e

[Rdyjin] wrote: 2y2w1v

So tonight I have managed to do the following stream in 1/4 without a miss

ddddkdddkdddkdddddddkkddkkddkkkkddddkkk
Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s
So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob

Anyway today's score turned out to be no mod, I couldn't FC + DT the song I was intending to show!:




After a bunch of tries & misses, i managed to get a SS on Usatei \:D/



Tewi rocks

ok challenge accepted
everyone so pro asdfghjkl
Topic Starter

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

Still decent to me :P
(also my score is like not even 24 hours old)
D: everyone is so proooooooooooooooooooo
Well, seeing as how two of my most impressive scores (to me) are on non-rankeds..


Figured this would be a good place to drop them. x:

_Gezo_ wrote: 516q3b

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

Still decent to me :P
(also my score is like not even 24 hours old)
lol, I tried using HR on that song like you and Hashish did but when I got to the end everything was going by so fast... >_<
Long story short, I got a miss and quit :oops:

Don Omar wrote: 3c644s


ok challenge accepted
I don't see any taiko specific maps :P
Topic Starter

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

lol, I tried using HR on that song like you and Hashish did but when I got to the end everything was going by so fast... >_<
Long story short, I got a miss and quit :oops:
Once you get to read huge speeds, everything is easy, I can FC it on a widescreen too (I did it at a friend's home but with way less acc)
To give you an example : I can read up to 320+ BPM nomod in a 4/3 screen.

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

MMzz wrote: 2g46e

Eventually you'll get to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... k1B4#t=69s
So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob
That actually looks quite doable, but only because I'm trying to learn it in a way so that my fingers would just automatically do them without me having to think about it rather than forcing it.

kkkd I can understand since I have issues with a lot of 'inverted' patterns where kats are dominant, but dkkdkkkd shouldn't be too difficult; aside from the first don, assuming a kddk playstyle, your second hand is doing all the dons. I don't think I've actually encountered it but I imagine it would only stumble me up about as much as kkdkk in that when I know it's coming I would be prepared for it (again going with the inverted thing).

I think it's a lot about how you try to read it, too. At first I tried to read 7-note patterns as being a 2-note immediately followed by a 5-note, but when that didn't work I just started working on making it muscle memory based on the number of consecutive dons/kats in the middle of a stream; kddkddk, for example, I would read it as swapping hands for the start of the dons because a single note in a row means basically that, you swap hand for the same color you were doing before.

It's weird I guess but it's working really well for me so far.

[Rdyjin] wrote: 2y2w1v

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

So this is what the fingers of a god looks like..... o_o

I still screw up kkkd and dkkdkkkd rhythms like a noob
That actually looks quite doable, but only because I'm trying to learn it in a way so that my fingers would just automatically do them without me having to think about it rather than forcing it.

kkkd I can understand since I have issues with a lot of 'inverted' patterns where kats are dominant, but dkkdkkkd shouldn't be too difficult; aside from the first don, assuming a kddk playstyle, your second hand is doing all the dons. I don't think I've actually encountered it but I imagine it would only stumble me up about as much as kkdkk in that when I know it's coming I would be prepared for it (again going with the inverted thing).

I think it's a lot about how you try to read it, too. At first I tried to read 7-note patterns as being a 2-note immediately followed by a 5-note, but when that didn't work I just started working on making it muscle memory based on the number of consecutive dons/kats in the middle of a stream; kddkddk, for example, I would read it as swapping hands for the start of the dons because a single note in a row means basically that, you swap hand for the same color you were doing before.

It's weird I guess but it's working really well for me so far.
I can play dkkd but when you start tagging on kkkd that means I have to lead with dons/kats with my left hand and I can't hammer dons/kats with my left hand for too long because I lose speed. I naturally lead with my right hand so dkkkdkkkdkkkd/kdddkdddkdddk, kkdkkkdkkkd/ddkdddkdddk, etc. are no problem at all as long as a don/kat constantly lands on my right hand in 4/4 time.
Ex. dkkkd/kdddk.
I can play dkkdkkkd but not dkkdkkkdkkkdkkkdkkkd and kddkdddkdddkdddk because I fall behind the rhythm because my left hand was never meant to lead and can't keep up.
Yes, there is a major speed difference between my left and right hand.
Yes, my left hand is retarded.
Why?
Because my right hand is a greedy bitch and never lets my left hand play first.
:P
Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)

LZD wrote: 2i285n

Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)
Dude, you need to revive that t+paz map that got graved because I love that song. I would like to do a taiko guest diff. for it if you'll take it?
Ussuru
Can I have a cookie~
SPOILER
B Galore :D
Probably one of the oldest scores I have that I was genuinely happy to achieve back when I did.


There's also this score


Nowadays I'm not really playing much anymore. My only remaining goals are to FC Senbon Sakura and Akasha, just so I can say I did it.

Edit: Lol. I just realized that both of those scores are before my name change.

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

I can play dkkd but when you start tagging on kkkd that means I have to lead with dons/kats with my left hand and I can't hammer dons/kats with my left hand for too long because I lose speed. I naturally lead with my right hand so dkkkdkkkdkkkd/kdddkdddkdddk, kkdkkkdkkkd/ddkdddkdddk, etc. are no problem at all as long as a don/kat constantly lands on my right hand in 4/4 time.
Ex. dkkkd/kdddk.
I can play dkkdkkkd but not dkkdkkkdkkkdkkkdkkkd and kddkdddkdddkdddk because I fall behind the rhythm because my left hand was never meant to lead and can't keep up.
Yes, there is a major speed difference between my left and right hand.
Yes, my left hand is retarded.
Why?
Because my right hand is a greedy bitch and never lets my left hand play first.
:P
That makes a lot of sense, actually, even though I never considered it as leading with either hand. The only thing I ever have to consider myself is which hand I'm ending with/if it's an even amount of notes or an odd amount of notes. I still derp hard on 2-note patterns and 4-note patterns because of that, but I'm slowly improving it.

I've been having some minor problems with the left hand thing but so far it's mostly just struck me to be that I wasn't properly ing the distinct difference of leading with my left hand, since most of the time leads are very right-hand oriented. I don't think I'll have an issue with speed because I'm actually left handed though, and sometimes I go faster than I should because of my left hand lol, but we'll see as I start doing long patterns more often and not just semi-BSing them and hoping for the best.
I got bored.


I tried to Hidden Mendes too (Firce version) but the stream is just so damn weird.

MMzz wrote: 2g46e

I got bored.


I tried to Hidden Mendes too (Firce version) but the stream is just so damn weird.
Retired and still beats all of us.


Get back to FLStudio ;_ ;


10k /o/
but still a huge noob T_T
Kinda late posting a score because I overslept yesterday! xD

Today's score!! [b]+ Hidden & DoubleTime[/b] \o/ :)

*I didn't use Nightcore this time because I like this song the way it is!


That is a nice HD FC you got there mittens. :3
Topic Starter
@^ I'm sure he can aim for a good 99,25 :P (Just three 100s less)

278 bpm ~
Okay, I didn't play a lot today so here is a score I get. Not hard but this map is fun to play, so... :3

Today's score is no mod! \o/

/me curses the world
1 miss... How cruel.... This occurred at the start of the song not the end that's what makes it even worse..

The "S" that got away...

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

LZD wrote: 2i285n

Pheon you are mad, holy shit :o

Good scores guys, keep posting! 8-)
Dude, you need to revive that t+paz map that got graved because I love that song. I would like to do a taiko guest diff. for it if you'll take it?
Yeah, I should come back to map and end a lot of timed songs I have XD. This map cheatreal, I must change some parts of the song. Anyways I'll add you to my friend list to talk ingame about it :P
Finally, after few weeks of inactive, I dat maps.




Also, I wanna HR colour cause of this


Hope one day I FC'd it.
Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(
Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?

Also, I'm slowly becoming close to being able to Ono's Taiko Oni of The Big Black. Idk if that's really as infamous as my IRL friend has made it seem in of difficulty, since I don't standard, but in a few days when I get to reliably beating it, I'm going to go over to her house and just nonchalantly beat it on her laptop. She'll probably kill me or something since she gets bothered by me actually managing to learn taiko. It will be worth it.


FINALLY ! \o/
Topic Starter

[Rdyjin] wrote: 2y2w1v

HashishKabob wrote: u5f4f

Can anyone tell me how 2 1/8th? :(
Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?
In that map
135 1/8 = 1080BPM
200 1/6 = 1200BPM

uuuuuuh, js
Gezo has said the truth :v

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f



FINALLY ! \o/
FFFFFFFFFF D:
I leave it here
http://puu.sh/1Bz9a

ye overmap blah blah blah orz

LZD wrote: 2i285n

I leave it here
http://puu.sh/1Bz9a

ye overmap blah blah blah orz
overmapppeeedddd =w=
fu fu fu fu fu funnn~


am I good at this mod?maybe not as I used over 10 tries in a row despite the map being pretty easy to sightread :L

_Gezo_ wrote: 516q3b

[Rdyjin] wrote: 2y2w1v

Be Korean, probably. I can barely do 1/6 in 200 BPM songs, I don't see how anyone can do 1/8. I imagine a mechanical keyboard helps a lot for faster streams?
In that map
135 1/8 = 1080BPM
200 1/6 = 1200BPM

uuuuuuh, js
uuuuuuh, what?

if the bpm is 135 a 1/8th would be 1/4th at 270. and 1/6th would be 1/4th at 216bpm.
Topic Starter
It was to compare 1/6 200 and 1/8 135, ported to 1/1
Update will come soon... I guess. <_<
Oh, I just did the extra math to show it makes sense. lol
wat.

It doesn't show the BPM of the song on the results screen and I wasn't going to look it up, so I assumed it would be around 200 BPM :(.

/twiddlesfingers
GOODLUCK
http://puu.sh/1CgNd

Back to remastering and reing Medication songs.
This song is new though.
Topic Starter
HOLY CRAPDOAZPDKLPAZ put this in Ao no Senritsu plz.

we still have to make a song together, if you can wait until I get my new PC that'd be gud
or remix vermilion nation i have the flp at home
Score of the day:



Try count: 1.
Topic Starter
OD5 lel
try HR now \:D/ (inb4 SS HR LOL)
im bad now Z:((((((((Zsaz
wht about my flashlight addiction :P ;)
Topic Starter

OzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p

im bad now Z:((((((((Zsaz
no ur not :DDDDDDDDDDDdddd
Three scores ! in a row





baby gabumon's first >1000x max combo



I wasn't even conscious of it so when I suddenly noticed my combo counter was lengthy I freaked out and the graph shows my derping. (I am teh proud of myself ^^)


meh
replay >> http://puu.sh/1DppC
Hell no, why there are always some random Chileans playing HD+FL...
DT~DT~DT~DT \o/
but my DT Accuracy always sucks, I don't have any control over mah speeeeed

Edit: Since I've been "away" for a while I'm going to play a bunch of new songs with DT and NC and post them here to make up for the days I missed. They aren't going to be old DTs I'm going to do new ones!

DT 248 BPM fail
2 misses... The shame... /me hides in a corner

Offtopic: NOOOO WTMFBBQ!!!!! :x :cry: :(


>1656564
>65656
PRO

also
even if I opened it for the first time :pokerfacepalm:
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