As requested by HeatKai.

[General]

The Easy diff has no Lead-In Time. Fix this.

[H4b's Taiko]

First, add this Taiko BG.


00:08:739 (18,19) - ddk
00:14:364 (48,49,50) - kkd
00:15:864 (55,56,57) - kdd
00:42:489 (166) - overtaking notes! Try to apply the SV/HS speed over time. I tried various stuff but somehow I were not able to solve this without deleting some notes here. Also, raise volume to 80%


That's all Good luck.

from queue

[overall]:

1. all diff start spinner gradually raise volume? I like~

[D.N.Angel]:

1. 01:28:426 (1) - how about this?
2. nice diff!

[Hard]:

1. 00:14:176 (5) - add new combo
2. 00:32:926 - add note

[Normal]:

1. 00:16:239 (1,2) - change to slider?

[Easy]:

1. 01:19:989 (1) - too hard newbie players stack please move this
   

I cant find anything T_T
good luck ranked!

S o r d a wrote: 2h1jz

[overall]:

1. all diff start spinner gradually raise volume? I like~ Good suggestion, used :3

[Hard]:

1. 00:14:176 (5) - add new combo no, break my combo pattern
2. 00:32:926 - add note weird to me ;_;

[Normal]:

1. 00:16:239 (1,2) - change to slider? ok

Thank you for the mod Sorda :3

thank you ~

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Easy].osu

Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[Yasora's Easy]
00:00:489 - add a spinner like other diffs? (If you change this, add 1000ms lead-in)
01:13:614 (3,1) - it is difficult for new player to read, change to white tick notes?

[Normal]
00:03:864 (1) - move it to center because of the spinner?
00:16:239 (1,2) - change to a slider? the rhythm is a little difficult
00:48:489 (1,4) - make symmetry?
01:22:051 (3,4) - change to a slider?

[Hard]
00:43:801 (5) - stack with the end of 00:43:239 (4)?

[D.N.Angel]
many complex jump, so AR+1?
00:58:239 (2) - unexpected pause. move it to somewhere like 124,148? or add a repeat on 00:57:489 (1)?

That's all I can find. GL~

popner wrote: 2s73y

[D.N.Angel]
many complex jump, so AR+1? //hmm...ok
00:58:239 (2) - unexpected pause. move it to somewhere like 124,148? or add a repeat on 00:57:489 (1)? //I like this part,so no change ><

That's all I can find. GL~

Thank for modding ~

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [D.N.Angel].osu

no spinner in beginning. thanks.

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Easy].osu

Fixed the Taiko BG, didn't know that this is a collab D:
No kds for this

submit that bg with the fixed diff here ^


and... thanks Loctav!

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [H4b's Taiko].osu

Yaaay Amagami :3

Yasora's Easy
00:17:739 (1) - Suggestion: Since the vocals start at the end of this slider, why not have a new combo there. Remove the new combo, remove a repeat and add a new combo hit circle (with finish at 00:18:489) Like so:

00:42:489 (1) - More perfect slider

284,164,42489,6,0,B|292:116|356:76|420:116|428:164,2,200,4|2|0

01:22:989 (1,2,3) - Sounds off when playing and not your fault, the song at the end is just weird. Try the following:


Normal
00:14:176 (4) - Suggestion. Possibly add another repeat.
01:25:614 - Add a hit circle with a clap here, keeps the flow going imo
01:28:614 (6,1) - Make these into a slider goes better.

Hard
00:14:739 - Add a hit circle here.
00:43:801 (5,1) - Don't stack these, seems really clustered
00:47:645 (2,3) - Stack these 2 makes it flow better
00:56:176 (5) - Really an unexpected jump here.

D.N.Angel
- Change the AR back to 8. 9 makes this map a huge mess and really unplayable. Had fun playing this with AR8 >.<
00:10:801 (1) - Reverse this so it flows coming to this slider and also going to the next.
01:23:176 (2,3,4) - Don't stack 3,4 with the tail of 2. Feels strange when playing.

That's all.

I provide you with the delicious Haruka Morishima

Weezy wrote: 6461q

Yaaay Amagami :3

Normal
00:14:176 (4) - Suggestion. Possibly add another repeat. Hmm, ok, let's see this repeat can do. But if this can be confusing, i will remove it.
01:25:614 - Add a hit circle with a clap here, keeps the flow going imo nope, i don't see any rythim that can be followed here.
01:28:614 (6,1) - Make these into a slider goes better. Sure, since two people has already mention this.

Hard
00:14:739 - Add a hit circle here. Sure
00:43:801 (5,1) - Don't stack these, seems really clustered Nah, i don't think so
00:47:645 (2,3) - Stack these 2 makes it flow better Sure.
00:56:176 (5) - Really an unexpected jump here. Nope, it can be handeld


That's all.

I provide you with the delicious Haruka Morishima Err, what is this? >.<

SPOILER

thank you for modding :3

thank you owo

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Easy].osu

Weezy wrote: 6461q

D.N.Angel
- Change the AR back to 8. 9 makes this map a huge mess and really unplayable. Had fun playing this with AR8 >.< //ok..
00:10:801 (1) - Reverse this so it flows coming to this slider and also going to the next. //I think previous one is better
01:23:176 (2,3,4) - Don't stack 3,4 with the tail of 2. Feels strange when playing. //It is ok for me

Thank for modding ~

To Miya :
please - 1 AR in my diff,thanks !

ok, fixed :3

dat avatar.

HeatKai wrote: 5b401y

dat avatar.

???

[General]

[Yasora's Easy]

[Normal]

[Hard]

[D.N.Angel]

I did a recheck myself.
I miss a finish hitsounds at one circle.
so here update

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [H4b's Taiko].osu

Bass wrote: 5o4i6e

[Normal]

4,18 star rating...
Tried to play around with settings, that didn't help. I guess BPM causes that thing and I understand fact it's hard to map normal with that speed.

1. 00:43:614 (2,3,4) - I strongly prefer to avoid making something like that in Normal, I'd rather have it stacked or make slider with repeat there. nope, this is not a problem in normal diff
2. 01:01:989 (4) - slider repeat on there sounds awkward, there rather vocals prevails than guitar so makes feel kinda out of place IMO.
   There 01:06:489 (1) - for example it sounds ok due to vocal matches with 1/4 snapped guitar. So putting repeat on slider which I've mentioned before on 1/2 snap would sound much better. ( to make two repeats then) I don't think this rythim is weird. Sorry
3. 01:13:239 (2,3,4) - again, wouldn't recommend that for Normal diff no
4. 01:16:426 (4) - move it back to x: 256 y:56 , looks much better hmm, ok.

[Hard]

1. 00:14:176 (5) - nc I don't see your point.
2. 00:19:051 (2) - move that to x: 96 y: 192 don't forget to fix spacing after then
3. 00:38:364 (3,4) - move these to x: 172 y: 320, then:
4. 00:38:926 (5,6) - move these x: 340 y: 320, it will look then kind of symetrical. nazi with unreasonable thing
5. 00:44:176 (2,3,4) - this triplet doesn't follow anything, I suggest removing 00:44:270 (3) nope, if you see the rythim, it's consistant

Thank you for the mod

~

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Easy].osu

Halo

[Yasora's Easy]
* Set the Audio Lead-In to "1000" for consistency of each diff

00:21:489 (1) - Make a slider like this? So the sharp curve part is following the beat? http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/325217


[Normal]
00:03:864 (1) - A bit too far from spinner for normal diff. Make it closer to center of spinner?
00:26:926 (4) - Add 1 repeating slider for better flow?


[D.N.Angel]
01:15:864 (3) - Because you stack at head slider of (4), it makes me lost while gameplay. Stack with 01:15:301 (5)?


Good luck~

Swaq

Insane:
The only issues I have are with your mapping style

hard:
cools

Normal:
k

Easy:
Tick Rate 1
00:21:489 (1) - N-N-Not moe! ;~;

The map itself is fine but for some reason your insane made my pants sad.

= =

u-p-d-a-t-e_m-y_d-i-f-f_p-l-e-a-s-e

: Shizuka Itou - Kimi no Hitomi ni Koishiteru (TV Size) (Miya) [Yasora's Easy].osu

CDFA wrote: 6d6j4w

Insane:
The only issues I have are with your mapping style //you can comment it

Leorda wrote: 6bp3m

[D.N.Angel]
01:15:864 (3) - Because you stack at head slider of (4), it makes me lost while gameplay. Stack with 01:15:301 (5)? //no

Bass wrote: 5o4i6e

[D.N.Angel]

1. 00:41:176 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - are you really sure about this? It's a bit confusing //I like this part ><

Thank for modding ~

Thank you CDFA for mod and star. But sorry no kudosu for you ;_;

update my diff QAQ

orz, sorry Yasora, i didn't see it ;_;
After become a MAT my time to take care my own map has been decreased rapidly.

Hi ~ Miya ~

Mod time for my Queue ~



Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions



That's all ~ Cool mapset and song ~

Call me back recheck ~ when you are ready ~

Kawayi Rika wrote: 2t2g1t

Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed

so..what's the difference between this two?

Must : you must fix it no matter what your argumen you have. It means Rika mention something unrankable.
Should : Rika suggest thing that can improve the map much much better. But if you don't agree with Rika said, you can ignore it.

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Must : you must fix it no matter what your argumen you have. It means Rika mention something unrankable.
Should : Rika suggest thing that can improve the map much much better. But if you don't agree with Rika said, you can ignore it.

then how about SHOULD and SUGGESTIONS = =

if I add audioleadin on my diff, that's too delay in the start. since in my diff not really begin early like other diff. other fixed.

HeatKai wrote: 5b401y

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Must : you must fix it no matter what your argumen you have. It means Rika mention something unrankable.
Should : Rika suggest thing that can improve the map much much better. But if you don't agree with Rika said, you can ignore it.

then how about SHOULD and SUGGESTIONS = =

Should, it means quite important to look at, at least take a look on it first
Suggestion, you can ignore it even haven't take a look on it.

OK ~ Good job ~

Good luck with rank ~

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Should, it means quite important to look at, at least take a look on it first
Suggestion, you can ignore it even haven't take a look on it.

nah -_- all mod that has been pointed out you need to take a look at. so there's no difference between this two

Offset is bad. Taiko play gives me at about 18-20ms late; you need about +18 to your offset.

[Taiko]

1. 00:42:239 (165) - SV decrease makes this object very hard to read. Does it even belong there (the sv change and/or the object)?
2. 01:05:739 - Taiko maps also shouldn't have Kiai resets.

I can't check the timing properly here. I will check the timing after i get back home.

those wrote: 2f131h

Offset is bad. Taiko play gives me at about 18-20ms late; you need about +18 to your offset.

my best offset is 485 for this beatmap.
after I recheck

Sorry, will not change the offset. I feel my offset is better.

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Sorry, will not change the offset. I feel my offset is better.

Look, it's not a matter of mapping style or anything. The offset is wrong, you can't argue that. There's no "opinion" on that.

hmm.. I'm getting +9 offset (498)
maybe find a pro timer? ><

those wrote: 2f131h

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Sorry, will not change the offset. I feel my offset is better.

Look, it's not a matter of mapping style or anything. The offset is wrong, you can't argue that. There's no "opinion" on that.

No opinion?

HeatKai wrote: 5b401y

my best offset is 485 for this beatmap.
after I recheck

Mythol wrote: 1m3k6i

hmm.. I'm getting +9 offset (498)
maybe find a pro timer? ><

And my is 489. Nah, I'm sure with my offset. I have tested it too.

hmm.. maybe you are right, but I think you should ask some more opinions
also should name be "Itou Shizuka"?
from ranked version http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/67520
and other ranked maps from this artist
http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/s/30735
all 4 versions of this^

sorry Miya, just trying to help ><
gl~

I'll give it a re when I get home. If the mp3 has possibly changed, then I may have the wrong offset.
In addition, Eastern names have their last names first, so "Itou Shizuka" is more correct.

Edit: Nope, still getting 18ms late. With +18, even with the lack of flow in D.N.Angel diff, I can average 0ms.

bubble popped due to the wrong artist name.
Thank you Mythol for mentioning the artist >.<

And for the timing i will ask someone to check the timing too. Thank you for your cooperation though those

o3o artist name...

OK ~ fixed wrong artist name ~

Rebubbled ~

Kawayi Rika wrote: 2t2g1t

OK ~ fixed wrong artist name ~

Rebubbled ~

Rika, stop rebubbling maps when mods haven't been looked at yet.

those wrote: 2f131h

Offset is bad. Taiko play gives me at about 18-20ms late; you need about +18 to your offset.

[Taiko]

1. 00:42:239 (165) - SV decrease makes this object very hard to read. Does it even belong there (the sv change and/or the object)?
2. 01:05:739 - Taiko maps also shouldn't have Kiai resets.

ok, fixed by me. Fine for rebubble now then?

omg '~'

..

[Yasora's Easy]

1. The reason why your star rating is so high is because you used a lot of 1/2 rhythms, not because the song is so fast.
2. 01:22:989 (1,2) - Since you've been using 1/2 rhythms throughout the whole song anyway, you should end these 1/2 earlier to fit music.

[Taiko]

1. 00:42:239 (165) - again, not fixed, or not enough justification for this object. There's no reason for this to be a 1/3 rhythm; it should be on the 1/4 before or after.

Offset is still wrong.

nothing fixed '~'
keep 1/1 consistent
thx

Taiko fixed.
But still, i don't want to change my offset. I can get higher acc with my offset.

I think offset need to be 497(+8)
it's no doubt that offset won't be perfect for all people, but we need to find a better one for mostly people
so I'll find more people's opinions

Ignore this,NEXT PAGE ------->

There's no point in adding additional red point.
Guys, please stop being insist on offset. I have tested my offset overtime, and i don't feel it wrong at all. Please respect my opinion. ;_;

those wrote: 2f131h

Offset is bad. Taiko play gives me at about 18-20ms late; you need about +18 to your offset.

after did a recheck with fartownik,fartownik and I really think that Those's suggestion is correct.

Yasora wrote: 2t3d38

keep 1/1 consistent

Consistently not following the music? That's not mapping.

Can you respect other mapper opinion those? You just forcing your mod to other people.
And your word is not polite at all. That can hurt mapper feeling.

MAT is like a boss =~= hereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee takeeeeeeeee ittttt

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Can you respect other mapper opinion those? You just forcing your mod to other people.
And your word is not polite at all. That can hurt mapper feeling.

There's opinion, and there's music. Which would you rather follow?

those wrote: 2f131h

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Can you respect other mapper opinion those? You just forcing your mod to other people.
And your word is not polite at all. That can hurt mapper feeling.

There's opinion, and there's music. Which would you rather follow?

Haruka wrote: i2f2s

Not only does it play badly, but you're mapping to a song, not making your own beats.

I'm not sure what this map is for... maybe a rhythm game?

those wrote: 2f131h

Consistently not following the music? That's not mapping.

It fits the music well,and the rhythm is good to a beginner
I don't think it needs to change

Can you stop forcing mappers to fix what you disagreed ?
it just proves you are not only arrogant but selfish,man

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

It follows the music,and the rhythm is good to a beginner
I don't think it needs to change

Can you stop forcing mappers to fix what you disagreed ?
it just proves you are not only arrogant but selfish,man

Stop calling me arrogant in English after you failed to do so in Chinese.
Instead of calling me out all the time, why don't you try to prove to everyone why ending 01:22:989 (1) - at 01:23:739 - is better than 01:23:551 - , the latter of which I suggested and actually follows the music?

In addition, if there's a strong enough argument to override my suggestion (which will always be backed by the music), then I accept it. You know it, and so does everyone else.

what's wrong with you, those?
I think since you become mat, you just like a different person =~=

Yasora wrote: 2t3d38

what's wrong with you, those?
I think since you become mat, you just like a different person =~=

You speak as if you knew how I was before I was MAT. The only thing that has changed is the fact that I take modding more seriously, I put my time and value into my mods, and would hope that you value your maps as much as I value yours.

but before you become mat, as I know you never force mapper like this =~= just sayin' my opinion

Miya wrote: 4g494n

And your word is not polite at all. That can hurt mapper feeling.

/me sighs

Ok, now i have fix your mod, but i still don't want to change the offset. Fine for re-bubble now?

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

Miya wrote: 4g494n

And your word is not polite at all. That can hurt mapper feeling.

it's not really a case of being polite or rude, it's a fact. technically it should follow the music and rhythm while remaining remotely consistent and your attitudes to not change it are in fact just as 'rude' as those's comments 'forcing' you to change your mapping. Based on the current mapping, you choose not to be consistent and that is ignorant of the fact that this is a rhythm game we are talking about...

of course it's your map, so you should do what you wish. to those, you should just drop it and let them decide because it is their ultimate decision. it's of course not unrankable, just a highly recommended suggestion. if they choose to constantly ignore something because they like it, or it's good to them (even though maps are for the community too, not just the mapper's satisfaction), then let them do so. maybe in due time they'll come to understand things like this better. Miya should know what she's doing, she's a MAT too.

as for the actual mapping, Yasora, your easy is a high star rating because of your lack of 2/1 sliders which should be taken into consideration while mapping easys. Miya's normal is a high star rating (4.18 at the latest update) because of her constant use of 1/2 sliders and heavy spacing (maybe next time try 1.0, this isn't a song for such spacing properties), not to mention lack of repeats and a slider velocity that's quite high and probably not recommended for use with normals, either...

ok whatever
in the last, I already fix that part.. omg

also, this one =~=
extreme people..

You are forgetting something here, Miya. As the mapper, you have probably tested this map many many times with the timing that you have now. If a map with the wrong offset is played enough, the player will "adjust" to that timing (its more of a psychological thing I guess). This causes you to think or feel that any other timing is wrong and makes you have to re-adjust. It's best to not have the mapper/guests do a "recheck" on the timing after they are used to something else. The offset of a map is only considered an "opinion" by a certain extent (about +/-4ms), so it is either right or wrong, really.

After checking the offset myself, it is definitely wrong. Add 16-18ms or so please.

Maybe I'll mod this later...

About the easy: The star rating is definitely not because of the map speed either and easily could be adjusted/improved. It's very possible to make high bpm easies that are not boring with unique timing - http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/137822

Yasora wrote: 2t3d38

ok whatever
in the last, I already fix that part.. omg

I know I know, I'm just trying to help by giving a few pointers (it was even just one)... no need to be angry (*ﾟﾛﾟ) ~

Makar wrote: 441t17

Maybe I'll mod this later...

if they were concerned with quality, they would accept it but if they want a rebubble so bad, it's really their choice...

[Hard]




no kudosu of course, just a pointer.

/me sighs

I have tested your offset too, but i feel your offset is making the beat placed earlier. Oh whatever, i have fixed the offset. Fine now?

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

Makar wrote: 441t17

Maybe I'll mod this later...

if they were concerned with quality, they would accept it but if they want a rebubble so bad, it's really their choice...
Feel free to mod it before it re-bubbled.

[Hard]

• just a pointer, but...
  

1. 00:00:489 (1,1) - this is a bit hard to play, maybe end the spinner two ticks earlier (previous white tick)? Nope, this is hard. There's no issue in hard if i place a note 1/2 tick after spinner.

no kudosu of course, just a pointer.

;___;
ouch, sorry, double post. >.<

I hope this will be beneficial to you. ＼(>o<)ノ

All of the following suggestions are made based on the most recent update for each colour-coded section. If a section is excluded from one diff but included in another, this is because there are no problems or suggestions to be made and therefore is removed.

[General]

[Yasora's Easy]

[Normal]

[Hard]

[D.N.Angel]

[H4b's Taiko]

thanks

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

I hope this will be beneficial to you. ＼(>o<)ノ

All of the following suggestions are made based on the most recent update for each colour-coded section. If a section is excluded from one diff but included in another, this is because there are no problems or suggestions to be made and therefore is removed.

[General]

1. a few things in each diff are slightly hard to predict and read. It's not a problem. Whole mapset doesn't have to be easy to read.
2. even while sitting in the editor you can hear the offset is off. I'm still averaging a pretty high number for being late, how much did you actually fix it (since you didn't specify)? I'm using those offset. ._.

[Normal]

• Song Setup
  (Suggestions for appropriate difficulty based on the song to offer more fluent and comfortable playing.)
  

1. slider velocity is really high for a song like this...I would expect you to use a lower one but because it would take so much work to fix and it's already up to this point, I guess it's not too big a deal and is fine to keep. It's not like it's completely outrageous or anything, just highly suggested. It's fine. 1.4 sv is fine for normal diff.
2. HP drain +1?

Beatmap Design/Arrangement
(The basis of the map, such as flow, consistency, and aesthetic design are found here.)

1. spacing in itself is a bit much... next time consider using 1.0 or something much smaller @_________@ Sorry, i'm not fan of low spacing. It's also fit with the sv too.
2. 00:07:819 (3,4) - you could turn this into a 1/1 slider (starting at 3) so it's easier to read.. the high SV and spacing makes this a bit unpredictable to start. (you'll have to fix the placement too) Nope. The polarity is good at this one. So it not hard to read.
3. 00:10:632 (2,3) - this kind of thing will definitely increase star rating. you could replace with a note and 1/1 slider to fit the rhythm whiled decreasing the amount of pausing and predicting a player will need to do here. ^
4. 00:16:257 (1,2,3) - huge gaps are hard to predict even if the spacing is correct. fill this in (you can be creative, just make sure it flows because this really does break it). Nah. It's fine.
5. 00:22:819 (3) - remove? or you could just make this stack a 1/1 slider... No, fit with the music.
6. 00:24:882 (1,2,3) - you wouldn't have to do this to lower star difficulty if your settings were properly adjusted to suit a normal...you could just use a series of 1/1 sliders o.o What's the problem of this note? It's easy to read. Nope.
7. 00:36:882 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
8. 00:38:944 (4) - to be consistent with the previous part like this, make it one repeat and then add a note on the downbeat. repeat sliders with more than one repeat used like that while also using repeat sliders with only one repeat can become confusing. Instead of adding a note to fill this emptiness, you could start a 1/1 slider on the downbeat, and a note in the middle of the two downbeats here. Good point. Fixed
9. 01:25:632 (x) - note? Nope.
10. 01:28:632 (6) - this plays really awkwardly after the previous sequence of 1/1 sliders and notes in-between. replace it with a 5/6 repeat slider possibly, it fits the song but not sure if you want this... Nope, the polarity is good at this one. It's easy to read.

Hitsounds
(Listed sounds can be used as an overture, so feel free to ignore unless further noted. Based on mapper's style.)

1. 00:47:944 (5) - no finish on the end or anything? Too loud. I don't like it.
2. 01:03:507 (1) - finish on the end to keep consistent? ^

New Combos
(Used to introduce a new phrase and/or pattern, the following suggest consistency within your map.)

1. 00:15:132 (5,1) - new combo, remove new combo? nope
2. 01:20:007 (3,1) - ^ nope.

[Hard]

• Beatmap Design/Arrangement
  (The basis of the map, such as flow, consistency, and aesthetic design are found here.)
  

1. 00:00:507 (1,1) - I cannot stress enough how annoying this is to play. My first playthrough without looking and I instantly was caught off-guard. I had two other people test it for me and the same thing happened and both agreed that this should be moved two ticks back. I do agree it's a hard, but this, it's more for an insane. It's quite ambiguous, but really... it should be moved so it's easier to read and less restarting at the beginning (there's no excuse, people who tested are not noobs either). Even more so, the insane diff (rather, D.N.Angel's diff) is easier to read because of the timing between the spinner and the first note, which should indicate to you what you should do about this. Nope. it's still fine.
2. 00:43:069 (2,3,4) - triple is kinda unnecessary and sounds sort of weird here. No, it's consistant with the next triplet.
3. 00:53:944 (4,5,6) - instead of doing this, you could try a note where (4) is and a 1/4 repeat at (6)? nope
4. 01:09:694 (1,2,3) - much better to play if they were aligned straight like most other triples and 5 note streams o.o Nope, it's fine.
5. 01:23:007 (1) - the inconsistency from here makes the map hard to read. it takes any map from a high to a low, so I suggest you try making it more consistent somehow. here's an idea of how to fix the first phrase of the end. listen to the music, I know you can come up with something a lot better than this to end this diff. What's not consistent? The triplet? It doens't have to be consistant.

Hitsounds
(Listed sounds can be used as an overture, so feel free to ignore unless further noted. Based on mapper's style.)

1. 00:41:569 (5) - finish. ok
2. 00:56:757 (6) - remove? no finish is called for. Fit with the music.
3. 01:08:757 (8) - ^ ^

New Combos
(Used to introduce a new phrase and/or pattern, the following suggest consistency within your map.)

1. 00:47:007 (4,1) - new combo, remove new combo? this section here you should notice the way you started new combos, starting on downbeats. No need, keeping combo consistencies at this point.
2. 01:00:319 (5) - new combo? nope
3. 01:14:382 (1,2,3) - remove new combo on (1), new combo on (3)? Good point. Fixed.

Thank you for the mod

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

00:00:507 (1,1) - I cannot stress enough how annoying this is to play. My first playthrough without looking and I instantly was caught off-guard. I had two other people test it for me and the same thing happened and both agreed that this should be moved two ticks back. I do agree it's a hard, but this, it's more for an insane. It's quite ambiguous, but really... it should be moved so it's easier to read and less restarting at the beginning (there's no excuse, people who tested are not noobs either). Even more so, the insane diff (rather, D.N.Angel's diff) is easier to read because of the timing between the spinner and the first note, which should indicate to you what you should do about this. Nope. it's still fine.

Part of being a good mapper/modder is giving reasons for denying suggestions (modding/mapping goes both ways you know). How is the modder (or mapper) going to improve if they don't know why things were ignored (or suggested); you refuse to debate.

As for this suggestion, I completely agree with it and the points are valid. Would you please at least explain why it was ignored so people can actually learn from this?

p/1597846
._.

Read over the suggestion again, please. This spinner is definitely insane level and harder than the insane part (+ inconsistent, D.N.Angel has the right idea here).

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

I do agree it's a hard, but this, it's more for an insane. It's quite ambiguous, but really... it should be moved so it's easier to read and less restarting at the beginning (there's no excuse, people who tested are not noobs either). Even more so, the insane diff (rather, D.N.Angel's diff) is easier to read because of the timing between the spinner and the first note, which should indicate to you what you should do about this.

Nope. It's fine.
Case closed~

Miya wrote: 4g494n

Nope. It's fine.
Case closed~

Makar wrote: 441t17

Part of being a good mapper/modder is giving reasons for denying suggestions

o.o?

Can you read my statement above? Jeez..

I really don't like you being so pushy to me

Sorry, I'm not meaning to be pushy.

I just expected better from a MAT.

Goodluck with this, /me pats

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

[D.N.Angel]

• Beatmap Design/Arrangement
  (The basis of the map, such as flow, consistency, and aesthetic design are found here.)
  

1. 00:09:882 (2) - for better flow, reverse the start/end. //no
2. 00:10:444 (4,1) - ^ both of these, too. //no
3. 00:23:569 (3) - ^ //no...
4. 00:32:569 (3) - ^ //^
5. 00:50:007 (1) - ^ //^
6. 00:52:444 (x) - a note here so it's consistent and adds to flow. //I want to follow the vocal
7. 00:58:069 (x) ^ //there are nothing I can follow ...
8. 00:59:382 (2,3,4,5,6) - done so wrong. half of it is following something and the other half isn't. a good idea would be to move this whole highlighted section back two ticks and work with it from there, just follow the music then fix the placement of things. //no
9. 01:02:194 (1,2) - flip these two or rearrange them? the flow here is really off. //no...
10. 01:16:632 (x) - for the sake of consistency, fill this in please. //it can't follow anything - -
11. 01:21:882 (2) - flip this around? you'll need to fix 01:22:444 (3) too if you follow, if you do (which I hope), fix it so you can allow more room for flow and consistency. //still no
12. 01:23:007 (1) - from here to the end is really inconsistent and hard to follow; no comment... ._. //the rhythm should be these -.-

Hitsounds
(Listed sounds can be used as an overture, so feel free to ignore unless further noted. Based on mapper's style.)

1. 00:07:444 (4) - remove?
2. 00:08:944 (5,6,7) - clap should be on (5), not (7).
3. 00:12:038 (6,7) - whistle on (7) instead of (6)?
4. 00:12:882 (3) - remove on the end?
5. 00:14:382 (1) - remove on the end?
6. 00:47:569 (2,3) - flip whistle placement?
7. 01:27:694 (1) - are you sure the whistles from here to the end fit?

New Combos
(Used to introduce a new phrase and/or pattern, the following suggest consistency within your map.)

1. 00:52:632 (1,2) - remove new combo, new combo?
2. 01:00:319 (8,1) - new combo, remove new combo?
3. 01:12:319 (5,1) - ^
4. 01:13:819 (6,1) - ^
5. 01:17:382 (1) - remove new combo?

nothing gotta change,but still thank you for modding

I can't even quote the things that need to be said.

So basically, this is what I understand from you guys. You expect us to give good reasons as to why we suggest a change in your maps, but you aren't obligated to do the same because you don't feel you should have to. What is your reasoning for this? Our reasons for offering and persisting in our pursuit of these things is because we want to see change. Change for what? Change for the better. Suggestions are made to improve your map, not make them complete and utter shit, which you might think it is. You blatantly ignored several mods (both of you) without any good reason, and I would expect you to give the same amount of respect back to the modders who modded because it does not help anyone. People want to know why their suggestions are wrong, or why you choose to differ in your stance. You have the nerve to confront people about how rude they are to you because they are trying to tell you that there is indeed an issue in need of fixing, when your position is merely the same: you yourselves are rude too.

Ignoring mods because you don't have to listen to minors is a bad attitude to have. What if we, the minors in the community, have helpful tips to offer you? Because we're not in any state to tell you otherwise, you decide not to listen because it will hurt your ego? Is it really that bad to accept truly beneficial mods from people who aren't technically qualified? I get the feeling that deceptive, egotistical front you put up is more important than anything to you both. It might be too much of a pain to accept mods from others because it will hurt your pride, won't it?

So don't think you're out of the hot water. I guess I'm not really in any position to tell you what to do, but things need to be said. Maybe you don't realize how much of a fool you made yourself look here. I don't mean to bring this into matters again, but that spinner in Miya's hard diff seriously needs to change because of it's inconsistency within the mapset and because it is extremely hard to read in contrast to the insane diff D.N.Angel provided. Either D.N.Angel changes the timing between the spinner and the first note to 1/2 or vice versa, or you could not heed this and continue to make maps that will make players furious (because really, that spinner is ridiculously hard to read and recover from at that level). I hope you take this into consideration in the future because both of your attitudes are pathetic and sadly hypocritical.


If this hurts your feelings, you obviously have a list of things to work on, don't you?

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

I can't even quote the things that need to be said.

So basically, this is what I understand from you guys. You expect us to give good reasons as to why we suggest a change in your maps, but you aren't obligated to do the same because you don't feel you should have to.

not me D: I fix most of it ! D:


btw awesome ava cherry ;3

HeatKai wrote: 5b401y

not me D: I fix most of it ! D:


btw awesome ava cherry ;3

lol not you, HeatKai. I was referring to the two people who denied most mods for no reason o.o;


and thanks. ></

Stop being so pushy to me. I already considered your suggestion, and discuss with osuplayer111 and Kawayi Rika and conclude that this is not a problem. If you talking about this matter again, it will be likely ignored.

Xakyrie wrote: 3ja2b

I can't even quote the things that need to be said.

So basically, this is what I understand from you guys. You expect us to give good reasons as to why we suggest a change in your maps, but you aren't obligated to do the same because you don't feel you should have to. What is your reasoning for this? Our reasons for offering and persisting in our pursuit of these things is because we want to see change. Change for what? Change for the better. Suggestions are made to improve your map, not make them complete and utter shit, which you might think it is. You blatantly ignored several mods (both of you) without any good reason, and I would expect you to give the same amount of respect back to the modders who modded because it does not help anyone. People want to know why their suggestions are wrong, or why you choose to differ in your stance. You have the nerve to confront people about how rude they are to you because they are trying to tell you that there is indeed an issue in need of fixing, when your position is merely the same: you yourselves are rude too.

Ignoring mods because you don't have to listen to minors is a bad attitude to have. What if we, the minors in the community, have helpful tips to offer you? Because we're not in any state to tell you otherwise, you decide not to listen because it will hurt your ego? Is it really that bad to accept truly beneficial mods from people who aren't technically qualified? I get the feeling that deceptive, egotistical front you put up is more important than anything to you both. It might be too much of a pain to accept mods from others because it will hurt your pride, won't it?

So don't think you're out of the hot water. I guess I'm not really in any position to tell you what to do, but things need to be said. Maybe you don't realize how much of a fool you made yourself look here. I don't mean to bring this into matters again, but that spinner in Miya's hard diff seriously needs to change because of it's inconsistency within the mapset and because it is extremely hard to read in contrast to the insane diff D.N.Angel provided. Either D.N.Angel changes the timing between the spinner and the first note to 1/2 or vice versa, or you could not heed this and continue to make maps that will make players furious (because really, that spinner is ridiculously hard to read and recover from at that level). I hope you take this into consideration in the future because both of your attitudes are pathetic and sadly hypocritical.


If this hurts your feelings, you obviously have a list of things to work on, don't you?

I didn't ignore your suggestions
I read all of them
I just wanna say "you don't understand how a mappers made their map" . It means "you don't understand me at all"
you just care how your feeling is, don't care how mappers set their "NCs,hitsounds,mapset,flows" patterns
That's why I changed nothing
your modding is not helpful for me at all,sorry about this

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

I just wanna say "you don't understand how a mappers made their map" . It means "you don't understand me at all"

Same way can be said about how you went about with this mod (and with any mod too!) Go at a mod with an open mind and if you don't agree with it provide a legitimate reason to back it up. Saying just "no" is soo rude it just puts a negative image on you and makes you look like a giantasshole. Stop being so butt hurt, mods are to improve your map not make them a shitty mess.

Please guys, calm down.

Weezy wrote: 6461q

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

I just wanna say "you don't understand how a mappers made their map" . It means "you don't understand me at all"

Same way can be said about how you went about with this mod (and with any mod too!) Go at a mod with an open mind and if you don't agree with it provide a legitimate reason to back it up. Saying just "no" is soo rude it just puts a negative image on you and makes you look like a giantasshole. Stop being so butt hurt, mods are to improve your map not make them a shitty mess.

/me sighs


Modding : "it can be a good flow"
Reply : "no" ; "no,I think it is fine" ; "no,I don't want to change this" ; "no,I think mine is better"
Do you think there are any different ?

I just replied "no" bcz there are so many things like that

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

I just wanna say "you don't understand how a mappers made their map" . It means "you don't understand me at all"

it is the major reason

Weezy wrote: 6461q

Same way can be said about how you went about with this mod (and with any mod too!)

I usually reply like this


that's it

changed AR and lead-in in some diffs, and I'm pretty sure the nice map is ready now
rebubbled

omg '~'
people so extreme..

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

Modding : "it can be a good flow"
Reply : "no" ; "no,I think it is fine" ; "no,I don't want to change this" ; "no,I think mine is better"
Do you think there are any different ?

No, there's no difference; you're missing the most important part:
"No, it's not a good flow because...".

those wrote: 2f131h

No, there's no difference; you're missing the most important part:
"No, it's not a good flow because...".

Have my babies.
I cannot stress this enough. Ignoring this and just saying "no" to things just makes the mod useless and nobody learns from it.

You are a MAT, Miya; you are supposed to be helpful. Is that not your role here...?

Anyways, enough of this I guess... I'll still try to mod this tonight. I see a lot of comments in this thread about the easy and I skimmed through it myself and agree with most of the modders here, so that will be my main focus I guess.

stop this guys,
if I'm miya, I'm gonna cry with all this ;_;

also, I like this one:

DarknessAngel wrote: 635qj

I just wanna say "you don't understand how a mappers made their map" . It means "you don't understand me at all"

and about my easy, i guess that's still feel easy. altough that's has 2.9 star

I know your pro and I'm still noob. but noob people still can think their best way too..

Makar wrote: 441t17

those wrote: 2f131h

/me deeply sighs
you didn't understand what I meant,did you ?
I don't want to say more words



well,it's time to shoot a star
good luck