Perhaps I should undertake some James training. My osu skills are pathetic.

92% accuracy isn't pathetic. Unless you play on Normal. Then it's pathetic.

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Breakdown made me break my keyboard in half. seriously. I blame james for such a frustrating map ._.

In two days of gameplay I've played 2 maps in JAMES DIFFICULT.

If you are that James, I don't want to play this maps xD

But people say that if you this you anything ò_ò I'll check it out

P.s: tablet makes it easier

We all <3 James. Especially me:

Breakdown is the only JT map I've played somewhat extensively and I found it pretty easy.

...since im not sure when or whatever i will make pack 3...

http://www.mediafire.com/.php?w7zrmftojqx

pack 3 will be something like that though.
i ed this before for timing check but no one looked at it so i removed it.

OH GOD.

IT'S LIKE I'M PLAYING GOD HAND ON HARD MODE ALL OVER AGAIN, EXCEPT IN RHYTHMIC FORM.

AWESOME!!

everyone looks like the one on your image after playing my maps for the first few hours.

^Not only do we look like that (often worse, actually), we also say something like:

$%#@&#%@*@$^*$%@&^(*%!)^*$(#!%&!#)$%(!#$)%&#!)$(%&!)(#$&%)(!#$&%
$%!^()!U&#(&#!%)^&!#)_!#&%^_!*@!_)*%#@!_)$*!#%_)#*!^%_(@$&^(&^%!#*(^#!)
!%#Y!#^*Y^&)!#($&%!$)@(#%&!@$(%*!@$_)%*!$#@_)!*_)!$@#*%you%^@(%&^)@($&%)@
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OHIJUSTBORKEDMYKEYBOARDFORTHELOVEOF$ER#@!(^&)$!#(^#$^_!#$^!*^)_#$!^&!#_($^&#!$_(^%
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!$^#!($^&#!$(^%*!#_$^)*!#$_)^*#!)_$^*!#$)_^*!#_$^%*!#$_)(5

x100. The multiplier is harder for certain other maps that are harder than James Training.

Then when we FC them all, we go:

"Holy cow, I don't suck total donkey balls anymore!"

We go through about five emergency operations on our arm, about twenty keyboards, and twenty-five mouses before that, though. Oh, and three monitors and a window (because our mouse flew through it).

Yes, I'm exaggerating. Close enough, though.

P.S. James Training does help quite a bit though, because of how freaking hard it is at first. XP Seriously.

EDIT: Oh, and our arms break because we throw our mouse too hard.

Fucking impossible. Training pack is fucking impossible.

Azu wrote: 473t4a

Fucking impossible. Training pack is fucking impossible.

It's recommended for people in the top 2000 (though I think it's more like top 500, whatever).

You're rank 5000.

I recommend playing some more until you can actually click on the circles quickly. :O

Until then, cuss away!

Ekaru wrote: 6p6d6v

Azu wrote: 473t4a

Fucking impossible. Training pack is fucking impossible.

It's recommended for people in the top 2000 (though I think it's more like top 500, whatever).

You're rank 5000.

I recommend playing some more until you can actually click on the circles quickly. :O

Until then, cuss away!

Actually, I did some James's Training when I wasn't even PAST rank 3000. My overall skill at osu! increased significantly.

Azu, keep playing.

What was that? Did you just say no?

But thou must.

Zatoichi wrote: 466s2n

Ekaru wrote: 6p6d6v

Azu wrote: 473t4a

Fucking impossible. Training pack is fucking impossible.

It's recommended for people in the top 2000 (though I think it's more like top 500, whatever).

You're rank 5000.

I recommend playing some more until you can actually click on the circles quickly. :O

Until then, cuss away!

Actually, I did some James's Training when I wasn't even PAST rank 3000. My overall skill at osu! increased significantly.

Azu, keep playing.

What was that? Did you just say no?

But thou must.

I was saying the recommended rank. My overall skill increased at osu! by playing stuff like Moon Bike! among other ones, so did this one MD map and a gazillion maps made by this person named "James". I haven't even heard of him before. Seriously.

Oh and James Training helped me learn how to play osu! Now I can beat Hirari [Beginner], it's SOOOOOO difficult!

umm pack2 is not included in the training pack. since i can FC pack 2 blindfolded. (meaning: too easy to practice with)

Stay tuned for pack 3:
pack1 and pack2 combined. (pack 1 difficulty-wise, pack 2 score-wise)

Ekaru wrote: 6p6d6v

Azu wrote: 473t4a

Fucking impossible. Training pack is fucking impossible.

It's recommended for people in the top 2000 (though I think it's more like top 500, whatever).

You're rank 5000.

I recommend playing some more until you can actually click on the circles quickly. :O

Until then, cuss away!

Impossible. I don't have the reflexes for fast songs.

Then get good enough reflexes for fast songs.

I suggest doing James Training until you get good enough reflexes.

Because obviously that's something you haven't done enough of yet.

Now do it.

I have come to reveal THE TRUTH!

James Training, in reality, is just James' BeForU maps in a pack.

Kasada wrote: 1q81v

I have come to reveal THE TRUTH!

James Training, in reality, is just James' BeForU maps in a pack.

Incorrect! This pack only includes the Hard .osu's. Easy and Normal were thrown in the trash.

^

Saturos wrote: x6548

Kasada wrote: 1q81v

I have come to reveal THE TRUTH!

James Training, in reality, is just James' BeForU maps in a pack.

Incorrect! This pack only includes the Hard .osu's. Easy and Normal were thrown in the trash.

and thats why the pack sucks as training

LuigiHann wrote: 2d2q2h

and thats why the pack sucks as training

Exactly.

That's why it's called James Training. Regular training would obviously suck for this pack.

Edit: Sorry. SOMETIMES THINGS COME OUT WRONG. ;_;

Zatoichi wrote: 466s2n

Then get good enough reflexes for fast songs.

I suggest doing James Training until you get good enough reflexes.

Because obviously that's something you haven't done enough of yet.

Now do it.

Baka. I can't get fast reflex. I'm just weak.

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Im in a low rank and below 2000 but Im so curious about this and have it a try.
After repeating chikara for 50+times, I managed to make it to the half and Wow!
I forgot to tell:
EDIT: My graphics card is a bit buggy which makes sliders invisible making it more challenging..
Damn Card!!11!!!!!11!101!

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: Merry Xmas! (Dance Remix) (beatmastermap) [Anto's Insane].osu

flyboy87's experience with James training

Day 1 - 11/3/2008
As I ed the pack today, I was determined to start my training not to the path of glory, but merely to the path of being a better player. Today I focused on Love Shine and Himawari. As expected, I failed the both of them, however, I kept practising both songs (without no fail) for an hour back to back - and it all seemed lost. I could not play them properly. The notes were just so spread out, etna sliders were killing me and I feel that the song was too fast.

However, the results of my one-hour training showed when I played my usual easy songs. As I shifted and played shiny smile from Idolmaster, I was very surprised, I FC'ed the song I was struggling so hard to . Yes, I'm that noob. Feeling determined, I tried to play other songs which I could not before. I used to get only like 50k+ points and had no fail mod on for The Biggest Dreamer (Hard), but now, I shot up to 300k+ points, without no fail. The notes which used to be so difficult seem easier for me to comprehend and it was easier for me to play. Not to mention that, I also surprisingly ed Caramelldansen (JAMES DIFFICULTY!) without too much trouble and most of darrihuka's [Relaxing] maps (Fiesta & Blade). I couldn't believe it when I ed the Insane version of my own map, Winter. It left me flabbergasted for a brief moment. My score and rankings increased significantly today, about #300 up.

That's all for now.

<3 James Training

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This is the day of my life

I finally finished Himawara. And with that I just completed all songs in james training (With C's and B's )

But still It does help

I don't know if it counts, but I started my James Training with Chocolate Disco. First I started with easy+nofail, then went with easy, then nofail, then normal. I can it, yeah, with 14 misses and C rank, but the first part (which I named it a "James-stream") is a murderer. >__<
Now I'm trying to FC Crash Course -Koi no Tokubetsu Lesson-... My best is rank B with 4 misses, not bad.

Perhaps I should start doing some real James Training instead... I hope they are tablet-friendly (ie no z/x crap, you can't do that in a tablet pc).

real training = cmc + gojou kai

Will this thing also help me to use two fingers to press on the keyboard?

I only really have 2... well, 3 problems when playing osu! here. First is that I can't get a beat using two fingers on the keyboard, so even on 1/8 beat I use one finger, and injure it in the process while getting a 300 on all of those. Second, mouse control, as obvious... but most notably jerks to the left -- I can't seem to hover properly when it's to the left. Third... well, disk space. I can't spam my drive with osu! much.

So I want to solve my first problem, and will this help? Even on normal and hard maps, I always have a better result using one finger on the keyboard than 2.

EDIT: ... >_> Maps on this thing present to me my weaknesses... like not being able to read Approach Circles when I can't see the Hit Circle (when the circle is below a slider), consecutive 1/4 distanced sliders, and stuff. Oh, and to note, I am one of those slider abs who abuse the slider system in such a way that I don't need to almost move on sliders. Hah.

EDIT2: Hm, at least I ed Love Shine on the first try. But I really hate stack-switching circles, which that song is full off. >_<

EDIT3: ..it was only now that I realized that James is of the same country as me? Wh0t?

Damn, this training is good. I can feel the effects already.
After ~30 plays of Himawari, I can almost it, but I make a lot of misses. This sure is hard, heh.
By the way, somehow managed to C Red Rocket Rising on the first try 0_0

EDIT: Finally B'd Himawari. 26 misses, though >.>

heck , I lost alot of time on this on the gojou kai pack.

Border of life - Done with 471 max combos , Missed a slide halfway ._.
Higan no tsuka - 131 combos , beaten but don't really feel like trying to do more.
Touhou youkai komachi - After playing it for 90 damned times I managed to finish it with a decent score.
Tsuepeshu no osanaki matsuei - Let's simply skip this okay ? Can't manage to get the hang of the rythm at the start. Instant fail gogo.
Ultimate truth - Work in progress.
Voyage and I will will come after ultimate truth.

Heck , Before trying the beforu pack I couldn't even manage to end 4 stars maps. Now I'm pretty fine with most of 5 stars beatmaps , with decent scores too.

: Misato Aki - Cross Illusion (swish) [Insane [hitsoundKSHRば～じょん]].osu

I am going to try it .

Wow, I haven't played osu! for even a week yet (I've played other music games such as Stepmania on keyboard before though) and I wanted to just see how hard these songs actually are. And they are really hard

But I was surprised that only after ing the first pack yesterday, I could one song today already. Yesterday when I tried them for the couple of first times, I could get like 50% accuracy tops and my life bar would be constantly at 0%. And I'm nowhere near rank #2000 or anything yet either.

So, only one song ed and with a BAD score but atleast this gave me a huge confidence boost! Thanks for these songs!

Now I'm off to try some more of the songs and probably try some songs that were really tough for me earlier on and see if they'll be easier for me now.

Ego boost pic included ;(

oh god ivalset (my secretary) where are you~

right here~

what do you need from me~

what did you do with these people?!?

Lol i wanna try James Training.

And im rank one-five-two-two-nine.

XD dont worry i have insurance.

eh.. where do dl?


EDIT
I finally found it.
I fooled around by playing "catch the beat" on Chikara.
I ALMOST LOST IT.
dang James Training is hard.

James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.

Zatoichi wrote: 466s2n

James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.

"I fooled around"
CtB is easier, so i figured, try it before braking my fingers in normal.

EDIT: Whats an Etna Slider?
AND What mouse do those people who SSed James Training use!!??! i was like WTF when i watched those replays, please reply

JInxyjem wrote: 59226l

Zatoichi wrote: 466s2n

James Training is for regular play (circles, sliders and spinners), not Catch the Beat.

"I fooled around"
CtB is easier, so i figured, try it before braking my fingers in normal.

EDIT: Whats an Etna Slider?
AND What mouse do those people who SSed James Training use!!??! i was like WTF when i watched those replays, please reply

Seen any of my CTB records yet? Also Etna sliders are super short sliders that continuously pop out and never seem to stop. And the also they appear in songs like Girugumesh - Break Down and Nickelback - Animals?

Also I use a Light Lazer mouse myself. works perfectly and is very easy to control. =P

James training helped me go from failing breakdown to beating emptiness and on ultimate ( ladysuburu made me post this)

Real James Training = James Training with Double Time

adamskii_uk wrote: 50r2t

Real James Training = James Training with Double Time

That sounds more like breaking every muscle of your body.

(And i only need to jump 2.5k more ranks to start James Training, without the Double Time.)

I was going to post something here about my improved anger management, but then i broke my keyboard playing emptiness and.

Yeah. >.>

Emptiness And was a great map. RIP your keyboard, though,

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JInxyjem wrote: 59226l

adamskii_uk wrote: 50r2t

Real James Training = James Training with Double Time

That sounds more like breaking every muscle of your body.

(And i only need to jump 2.5k more ranks to start James Training, without the Double Time.)

I started James training after I did one of the easiest maps on osu!

And it took me like 2 weeks and I got better. And then did a lot of maps and came back to james training and I suddenly fc'ed all of those maps XD

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There's, uhhh, "Pokebis" training somewhere. I'll edit this post with a link to it sometime.

Edit: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5456

A couple things to mention:
1) The difference between these two training regimen is huge.

2) James Training doesn't really have a minimum required skill level, it's basically just "play this map and maps similar to it until you get better". For some reason, these maps are sickeningly effective at drilling skill into the heads of those who decide to play them.

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They've taken the James Training course and ed it, that's all.

I took me more then 300 tries to S Chikara.

That was about the 2nd beatmap I played on osu! XD

See what happens after trying Chikara or Love Shine after 300 tries.

You should be significantly better.

See what happens after trying (insert hard map here) after 300 tries

You should be significantly better.

God dammit luke, stop spoiling the secrets to James Training.

New training: look at my sig.
Results: pro mouse control. master the skill Rage.

edit: practice playing here.

James wrote: 5d1rc

New training: look at my sig.

I used to play osu with that. Whats wrong with it?

(Now in 1800 dpi infared sweetness.)

you used to play with it? come on~

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I tried some James training. It did not help at all. Why is it so?

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Wojjan wrote: 6d5my

I tried some James training. It did not help at all.

If this is a "you'll see an effect in 7 months" scam, count me out.

ALSO: you don't see them on my most played 'cause I don't play them ranked. I'm not insane to play the same thing 200 times and see my accuracy drain by 20%

Only your best play in each difficulty goes toward your accuracy...

Anyway, I haven't done extensive James training, but Love Shine in particular has been great practice for me (it's not in my top plays but it's tied with Shake It at the bottom of the list)

Wojjan wrote: 6d5my

Wojjan wrote: 6d5my

I tried some James training. It did not help at all.

If this is a "you'll see an effect in 7 months" scam, count me out.

ALSO: you don't see them on my most played 'cause I don't play them ranked. I'm not insane to play the same thing 200 times and see my accuracy drain by 20%

Coward. And max or something three weeks, not seven months.



Anyway,
Does anybody know which is the easiest James Training map?

I D'ed everything except for only one C.


EDIT: Guess dat C. I bet you wont find it in 3 tries.


EDIT 2: I used nofail, sue me.

i would say that peace and love shine are the easiest.

Hmm... At least I've ed this training T___T
Now.. Must to do every Gojou Kai ;<

Personally I found Love Shine not to be anywhere near as hard as the rest. In fact, until I read this thread, I did not realize it was part of the James Training, despite being by Be4U XD.

So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena
I can't even one song.

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strager wrote: 3p102w

BagnoGamer wrote: 153n1s

So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena
I can't even one song.

Isn't the point of James Training to have you trained to these songs? =]

I can each easily now, usually with a B. Working on FC'ing each. I play once or twice of each map per day at the moment.

EDIT: WOOT! Just S'd BreakDown. <3
EDIT again: WOOT!! Just S'd PEACE as well. <3<3

I can SS all of them in CtB mode.

BagnoGamer wrote: 153n1s

strager wrote: 3p102w

BagnoGamer wrote: 153n1s

So i'm big noob on osu! standard arena
I can't even one song.

Isn't the point of James Training to have you trained to these songs? =]

I can each easily now, usually with a B. Working on FC'ing each. I play once or twice of each map per day at the moment.

EDIT: WOOT! Just S'd BreakDown. <3
EDIT again: WOOT!! Just S'd PEACE as well. <3<3

I can SS all of them in CtB mode.

"You" suck. Get a life.=[

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Thank you very much, James xD

I have a bad skill on osu and often break my own combos during some hard part.

It's time to exercise~♫

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Does James Training work in No Fail mod?

JInxyjem wrote: 59226l

Does James Training work in No Fail mod?

James Training is just playing maps until you can FC them.

If you need to train using NoFail, do so. You should get to a point where you don't need it. Just keep training until you reach a FC on each map.

I can C half of the JT maps with nofail and not use NoFail on Red Rocket Rising (Almost died on the ending jumps)

Yay..?

I will now try this Training regime. Tomorrow. I'm supposed to be sleeping now WAITING

Well, either I must be totally badass at Osu! or these songs are easier than I expected. I was getting ready for some super-hard songs that god knows who could beat them, let alone FC them, but I ed every one of them on the first try with an average of 93% accuracy... I guess playing all those IOSYS and 90% of DJPop's songs on Hard for my first four weeks until I ed them with at least an A, did more for me than I had expected.

EDIT: Is it just me or are some parts in Red Rocket Rising really weirdly timed? My accuracy seems to be going lower on that song the more I play it

Destroyer224 wrote: 4e2y2c

EDIT: Is it just me or are some parts in Red Rocket Rising really weirdly timed? My accuracy seems to be going lower on that song the more I play it

If that's the one with the spinners, then yeah. For me I get pretty good accuracy for all the songs in James Training. No real timing problems.

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Just get the Secret Seven albums, the Gojou Kai ones. I'm sure those would be a modernized James version (With an Al-Azif too).

Oh yeah <_< (higan no tsuka arghhh). But you are right they could be seen as another training pack i could only FC 2 songs i think, very hard

ohh shit... i know i sound noobishh now, but i just completed two of the james training maps o.O I actually think im getting better! Thanks James! lol

Sheet... 6k rank dude is better than me I cant any of these maps.. I tried each map like 3 times alrdy.

Well I will spam em more tomorrow :d


Edit. Oh I ed all D: It just took few more tries after all. Gotta fc em.

shit nigga... im the noob here.. after having completed all the james training maps, i actually thought james training was over o.O But no, i gotta fc all of them... James training is good, but i kinda feel anally raped..

guys give me some advice please... how am i supposed to fc all the songs? o.O

jammerro wrote: 1h2n5p

guys give me some advice please... how am i supposed to fc all the songs? o.O

Practice.

JInxyjem wrote: 59226l

I can C half of the JT maps with nofail and not use NoFail on Red Rocket Rising (Almost died on the ending jumps)

Yay..?

Despite what scrubs may have told you, no fail doesn't count for anything.

If you can't fail, it isn't James Training.

Also, due to how rhythm games get harder over time, this is at best an intermediate training course. It won't prepare you for much past that anymore.

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gojou kai maps are not training, it just looks like one.

and i just realized that this "training map" is really a training map.

just when these maps are finished at that time... all other maps are not equal to the hardness of these 6 maps.

so i guess i can really call these bunch of maps... training.

james training i thank you once more! Today i fc'ed my first beforu map, and on top of that, i completed Twister (subarashiki mix)on ultimate! All because of james training.. Theres a reason why james is world famous

I FC'd all of them about a week ago but took me a lot of tries but still succeeded, really helped a lot, I can do jumps really great now, and my spinning also improved to 350-400 RPM on average. Now all I need to do is improve my tapping accuracy, I still get a lot of 100s and 50s on maps.

Lol, what's the difference between taking any collection of maps and practicing them over and over and doing the same with these BeForU maps? In the end practicing the same maps over and over will only help you with ... wait for it ... those specific maps. In my opinion the key to improving is to diversify. Play as many maps as you can. (And FC them) Playing different maps and learning how to read notes fast is better than learning obscure patterns that only occur in one map imo.

If you're having trouble with a certain aspect of the game (Jumps, streams etc) then there are better maps to help with that and it would be more advantageous to focus your training on those areas instead of restricting yourself to maps by 1 random artist ? ;p

I realise that this thread was started in jest almost (or wasn't it?), but people seem to be taking it really seriously nowadays. These maps don't have magical capabilities. You would get the same results if you played other (quality) maps as well osu! is all about practice. As long as you play maps that you aren't fully comfortable with you will improve

One also has to that these maps aren't nearly as hard now as they were a year ago (On a relative scale)

Setting up gameplay specific training packs would be better imo. A specialised pack for jumps, a separate pack for deathstreams etc.

After JT, I have ed both RRR(Combo break on jumps) and Himawari(Regular combo breaks). Still failing on the rest though...

To all skeptics(If there is still some): James Training has proven to be by far the most useful osu training pack ever.
Plus, you break your keyboard and mouse so you can buy better ones!

JInxyjem wrote: 59226l

To all skeptics(If there is still some): James Training has proven to be by far the most useful osu training pack ever.

How many others have there been to compare with?