Krimek wrote: 1e3s1n

Hello there, mod as requested.

Grimoire 2sc4r

[Settings]

1. Add combo colours
2. I'm not that fan of hitsound volume 70% for kiai, but if you want to keep it, do so. Still I would prefer lower it a bit.
3. Arranger is Taishi and the Album/Circle is from Electro.sinker (C85).
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[Inherited timing sections]

I knew that I could find a few unnecessary greenlines that shouldn't be in.
I tried to look which of them don't affect toggle kiai time, sv, hitsound sample packs and/or volume.
Here is a list of green lines that are similar to the greenline before and can be delete:

SPOILER

00:15:595 -
00:25:033 -
00:31:774 -
00:55:370 -
02:25:875 -
03:11:718 -
04:01:100 -

all fixed
Please keep in mind that even I could have made mistakes, so take one more look and check, if they are actually realy neccessary.
Maybe you just forgot to change them for their actual purpose. If so, please fix them.

[New Combos]

• You should work on your NCs since there are many missplaced and/or unneccessary NCs that doesn't fit to the rythm.
  Please go through your map and try to set logicaly new NCs. It would take way to long to write down all NCs here, but I can make some examples:

1. 00:03:628 (1,1) - Please decide where you want to NC and don't place 2 NCs there fixed
2. 00:38:853 (1,1,1) - It explains by itself idk
3. 00:46:943 (4) - Strong beats like that should be NC fixed
4. 01:03:291 (1,1) - Again 2 NCs in a row fixed
5. 03:19:134 (1,2) - Switch NC fixed
   ...and so on. Try to NC the big white ticks since these are mostly the loudest and most important sounds to be NCed.

[Rythm & Patterns]

1. 01:02:954 (5) - Stuff like this isn't that good because it ends on 01:03:123 -, a strong beat that should not be ignored. Make 01:03:123 -clickable, by changing the slider into 2 circled for example. ed for now
2. 01:15:257 (1) - This is very hard to read since it's stacked with the ending of 01:14:583 (1) -. I'm pretty sure this is unrankable so please change it. changed a little
3. 01:57:055 - I wouldn't ignore it ;w; There is a drum which should be clickable. fixed
4. 01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7) - imo these quins streams are too spaced and overmapped. It makes this calm part too hard. Maybe less spacing? Applies to the quins as well. reduce a little
5. 02:50:988 (1) - Amazing slider!
6. 03:06:325 (3) - So fucking hard to read, since it's stack and you actually don't expect such a jump. pending
7. 03:24:696 - Add object? fixed
8. 03:51:325 (1,2,3) - This pattern plays kinda weird. I would lower the spacing of 2, maybe this helps out. fixed
9. 04:21:999 (1,2,1) - People will probably think its a tripple because of the spacing. Change the distance please. pending
10. 04:30:679 (4,1) - Spacing please ;w; I like that build up, but this spacing is bit to high, don't you think so? pending

I think these are the most important things I've mentioned out.
There were a few pattern and jumps I disagree with like 01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7) -, because this does not represent the calm part of the song and plays quite hard. Not that I'm a good player or anything, so I guess what you have now is fine as well.

Incidentally, I really like your map. This is so creativ and so fun to play. Keep it up!

Good luck!

Arphimigon wrote: 2o4n1

I'm going to structure this mod a little differently with a lot of talking as well as suggestions okay? Thanks.
I'll set it in parts for each part of the music k.

log one

21:03 Slick: 80,75?
21:03 Arphimigon: 70% just sounds so low imo
21:03 Arphimigon: someho
21:03 Arphimigon: kiai is good
21:04 Slick: or should i leave both kiai and that as 70
21:04 Arphimigon: ye may aswell
21:04 Arphimigon: 01:44:920 - feels too quiet
21:04 Slick: lets not go there yet
21:04 Slick: 01:23:347 (1) -
21:04 Arphimigon: perhaps 40/45
21:04 Slick: that slider
21:04 Arphimigon: keep that how it is
21:04 Slick: silence the ticks?
21:05 Arphimigon: i like the ticks
21:05 Slick: the ticks are 25%
21:05 Slick: the end of the slider is 5%
21:05 Arphimigon: makes you realise you are still playing
21:05 Arphimigon: hm
21:05 Arphimigon: raise end to 10
21:05 Arphimigon: so its still audible
21:05 Slick: done
21:06 Arphimigon: next section is good
21:06 Slick: 50 volume good?
21:06 Slick: what about the guitar part 01:34:134 -
21:06 Slick: 70 there is good?
21:06 Arphimigon: all good
21:07 Slick: this section 01:44:920 (5) - ?
21:07 Arphimigon: raise
21:07 Slick: raise to 40?
21:07 Arphimigon: 40 or 45
21:07 Arphimigon: id say 40
21:07 Slick: done
21:08 Slick: 01:53:965 (4) - is this slider 1/6?
21:08 Arphimigon: 02:22:673 - all good sounding until here so ffar
21:08 Arphimigon: slider?
21:08 Slick: or 1/8?
21:08 Slick: seems to be 1/8
21:08 Arphimigon: what you have seems fine
21:08 Slick: seems to be http://puu.sh/iMbZv.jpg
21:09 Slick: yeah
21:09 Slick: idk...
21:09 Arphimigon: hm
21:09 Arphimigon: use 1/8
21:09 Slick: i'll remap that
21:09 Arphimigon: easier to play and hit
21:09 Arphimigon: no keep
21:09 Arphimigon: use 1/8
21:09 Slick: okay
21:10 Slick: 01:54:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here sample is normal and volume 20%
21:10 Slick: thoughts, i assume raise?
21:10 Arphimigon: ye
21:11 Arphimigon: 25/30
21:11 Arphimigon: id say 25 to fit music
21:11 Slick: 01:55:370 (9,10,11) -
21:11 Slick: here i changed it to soft and 70%
21:11 Slick: because the violin or w/e that is comes in
21:11 Arphimigon: too high imo
21:11 Slick: but volume may be too high?
21:11 Arphimigon: ye
21:12 Arphimigon: 50 or 60 your call here
21:12 Arphimigon: id say 50
21:12 Arphimigon: but we can compromise 55
21:12 Slick: 55
21:13 Slick: 01:55:707 (1) - volume for this section?
21:13 Slick: 70, since it is part with claps and kicks
21:13 Slick: ?
21:13 Arphimigon: its good how it is
21:14 Slick: 02:06:493 (1) - lower here?
21:14 Slick: kicks stop
21:14 Arphimigon: no
21:14 Arphimigon: it still feels the same
21:14 Slick: no kicks don't stop
21:14 Slick: NVM
21:14 Slick: yeah my bad
21:14 Slick: 02:17:280 - 70 here as well?
21:14 Arphimigon: ye
21:15 Arphimigon: still 70
21:15 Slick: these finishse 02:27:729 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:15 Arphimigon: 02:22:673 (1,1,1) - empasize?
21:15 Slick: finishes*
21:15 Slick: increase volume at those sliders?
21:15 Arphimigon: ye
21:15 Arphimigon: make those all 80
21:16 Slick: only the sliders though?
21:16 Arphimigon: id say personally 02:27:813 (2) - remove that finish only
21:16 Arphimigon: and ye
21:16 Arphimigon: just the sliders
21:17 Slick: 02:26:044 (1,2,1) - ?
21:17 Slick: 80 for those as well?
21:17 Arphimigon: nah
21:17 Slick: okay
21:17 Slick: same thing happens before the first kiai
21:18 Slick: 00:55:033 here
21:18 Slick: do the same thing there?
21:18 Arphimigon: may aswell
21:19 Arphimigon: on a mapping note the curve of dis is meh, this looks better 02:50:988 (1) -
21:19 Arphimigon: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3338815
21:21 Slick: what curve?
21:21 Arphimigon: the biggest curve
21:21 Slick: the beginning?
21:22 Arphimigon: no worry lets finish the sounds
21:22 Arphimigon: so you can hurry and
21:22 Slick: 01:00:089 (1,2,3,4,5) -
21:22 Slick: these finishes?
21:23 Arphimigon: keep them all
21:23 Arphimigon: they fit
21:23 Slick: 01:00:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here i did something weird with drum-hitclap and drum-hitfinish
21:23 Arphimigon: sounds good
21:23 Arphimigon: kinda
21:23 Slick: oaky
21:23 Slick: okaky
21:23 Slick: lol
21:24 Slick: yeah idk about it
21:24 Arphimigon: i think its meant to sound a bit weird
21:24 Arphimigon: idk
21:24 Slick: doesn't sound to good
21:24 Slick: ;w;
21:24 Slick: maybe just normal sample and 40% volume instead?
21:24 Slick: remove claps and finish?
21:25 Arphimigon: lemme try it
21:26 Arphimigon: 01:01:100 (4) - keep this whistle
21:26 Slick: make that whistle
21:26 Arphimigon: 01:01:437 (6,8) - and a couple of whistles here
21:26 Arphimigon: imo
21:26 Slick: what about the sample
21:26 Slick: still drum?
21:26 Slick: don't remove claps and finish?
21:26 Arphimigon: ye
21:27 Arphimigon: remove them all
21:27 Slick: okay
21:27 Arphimigon: 01:01:269 (5) - and consider clap here
21:27 Slick: oh
21:27 Arphimigon: i think you have one there
21:27 Slick: keep drum sample`?
21:27 Arphimigon: ye
21:27 Arphimigon: all drum
21:28 Slick: 02:28:741 -
21:28 Slick: that section before dubstep
21:28 Slick: volume
21:28 Slick: and what about the whistles
21:28 Arphimigon: sounds fine volume wise
21:29 Arphimigon: whistles add to the epicness
21:29 Arphimigon: keepp
21:30 Arphimigon: 02:49:302 (5) - id remove this whistle
21:30 Slick: 02:50:988 (1) - this slider, silenced ticks good?
21:30 Slick: and the end is 5% volume
21:31 Arphimigon: i wanna hear the ticks
21:31 Slick: 15% enough for ticks?
21:31 Arphimigon: it sound sound so good
21:31 Arphimigon: on tick rate 1 on the slider
21:31 Arphimigon: at about 20%
21:32 Slick: have to use tick rate 2
21:32 Slick: so i can hitsound the ticks inside some long sliders
21:32 Arphimigon: id reckon you could have the bpm on the slider
21:32 Slick: half?
21:32 Arphimigon: and justify it with "no sounds make it sound slower!"
21:32 Arphimigon: half*
21:32 Arphimigon: i meant to say halve
21:33 Slick: i don't understand
21:33 Slick: i made the ticks of it 20%
21:33 Slick: what about the end, 5% good?
21:33 Arphimigon: ye
21:33 Arphimigon: but if you halve the bpm, you can get basically tick rate one
21:33 Slick: 02:56:044 (1,2,3,4) - these?
21:33 Arphimigon: reduce sound
21:33 Arphimigon: too loud
21:34 Slick: 40,50?
21:34 Arphimigon: 40
21:34 Arphimigon: 02:56:381 (1) - end this slider at 02:56:634 - sounds better
21:34 Arphimigon: and replace end with a note
21:34 Arphimigon: sounds so much better musically to me
21:35 Slick: that's not my part
21:35 Slick: but i'll tell him
21:36 Slick: 03:00:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here i use normal whistle
21:37 Slick: because using addition to hitsound the kick fucks your ability to use whisle and finish
21:37 Arphimigon: eh
21:37 Slick: so i have the choice between hitsounding the clap and kick but not using and finish or whistle
21:37 Slick: or use finish or whistle and ignore kicks and claps
21:37 Arphimigon: use the whistles
21:37 Arphimigon: more effect
21:37 Arphimigon: if not a bit annoying
21:38 Slick: okay
21:39 Slick: 02:56:381 (1) - emphasize such sliders in dubstep?
21:39 Slick: same as before kiai you know i increased volume to 80
21:39 Arphimigon: no
21:39 Arphimigon: they dont stick out nearly as much as before
21:39 Slick: yup
21:40 Arphimigon: wtf 2hrs on purely hitsounds
21:40 Slick: 03:19:302 (1) - volume for this section?
21:40 Arphimigon: nah keepo
21:41 Slick: 03:24:696 (2) - questionable note
21:41 Arphimigon: ye
21:41 Arphimigon: i was gonna say that in mod later but
21:41 Arphimigon: ye
21:41 Slick: she breathes it, and the music changes slightly
21:41 Arphimigon: breathing
21:41 Arphimigon: isnt understood
21:41 Slick: breathes in*
21:41 Arphimigon: by players
21:41 Slick: yup xD
21:41 Slick: but the music changes a little
21:42 Slick: you hear
21:42 Arphimigon: but what would make sense
21:42 Arphimigon: is
21:42 Arphimigon: end slider at 03:24:359 -
21:42 Arphimigon: remove 03:24:696 (3) -
21:42 Arphimigon: 03:24:527 - add note
21:43 Arphimigon: well kinda
21:43 Arphimigon: im not sure how to map this part really
21:44 Slick: i'm not sure either
21:44 Arphimigon: how about keep it how it was originaly
21:44 Slick: ignore that for now
21:44 Arphimigon: just remove the note
21:44 Arphimigon: makes mose sense to me
21:44 Slick: agreed
21:44 Slick: i'll do that
21:45 Slick: 03:42:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
21:45 Arphimigon: wow
21:45 Arphimigon: i was about to
21:45 Arphimigon: wow
21:45 Slick: is that the same as 01:00:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?
21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:645 - soud pls
21:45 Arphimigon: no
21:45 Arphimigon: not at all
21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:645 - add a sound here
21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:814 (6) - and remove this
21:46 Arphimigon: if you want a sound at that place, make03:42:729 (6) - into a slider jump
21:46 Arphimigon: 1/4 slider
21:46 Slick: i'm not sure about note at 03:42:645 -
21:47 Slick: doesn't sound too good to me
21:47 Arphimigon: sounds perfect to me lol
21:47 Slick: 03:42:814 - you can here drum here
21:47 Arphimigon: ye
21:47 Arphimigon: make 03:42:729 - into 1/4 slider
21:47 Arphimigon: but i wouldnt make that sound a note
21:47 Arphimigon: gotta afk again
21:53 Arphimigon: back
21:53 Arphimigon: where were we
21:53 Slick: 03:42:224 -
21:53 Slick: i tried what you said
21:53 Slick: i didn't find it too fitting
21:53 Slick: idk sorry ;w;
21:54 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/iMeOd/619e8b058a.jpg like that?#
21:54 Slick: it's not that bad
21:55 Slick: but i feel the transition between the kick slider and slow slider is a bit weird
21:55 Arphimigon: hey all your choice
21:55 Arphimigon: lets move on then
21:55 Slick: i'll keep it in mind
21:55 Slick: but the hitsound there
21:55 Slick: normal sample yes?
21:55 Arphimigon: ye
21:55 Arphimigon: sounds good
21:55 Arphimigon: nice finish
21:55 Slick: 03:42:224 (1) - finish here?
21:56 Slick: soft or normal finish?
21:56 Arphimigon: ye thats what i was saying
21:56 Arphimigon: lemme try both
21:56 Arphimigon: soft
21:57 Slick: 03:54:359 (1) - finish on slider like this?
21:57 Slick: i did the same in the first kiai 01:12:561 (1) -
21:57 Arphimigon: oh god yes thats good
21:58 Slick: i'm going to remake this before
21:58 Slick: 04:09:696 (1) -
21:59 Slick: but the slider
21:59 Arphimigon: 04:17:954 (1,1) - unrankable stacking
21:59 Slick: that's unrankable?
21:59 Arphimigon: ye
21:59 Arphimigon: unreadable
22:00 Slick: okay
22:00 Slick: that's also not my part
22:00 Slick: 5eania has the first dubstep
22:00 Arphimigon: dam
22:00 Slick: midge has the second
22:00 Arphimigon: well imma still point them out
22:00 Slick: i'll tell him
22:00 Slick: yeah
22:00 Arphimigon: so either one can say it later
22:00 Slick: ofc =D
22:01 Slick: 04:09:696 (1) - but that slider
22:01 Slick: volume of ticks
22:01 Slick: + volume of end
22:01 Arphimigon: no ticks on this one
22:01 Arphimigon: but
22:01 Arphimigon: the end should be raise
22:01 Arphimigon: since there is a sound
22:02 Arphimigon: go for 15%
22:02 Slick: so volume of ticks keep 35%
22:02 Arphimigon: ye
22:02 Slick: 04:11:550 (2) - this slider
22:02 Slick: 5%
22:02 Slick: that is midge's doing
22:02 Arphimigon: wait
22:02 Arphimigon: 04:09:696 (1) - add a soft whistle to the end of this slider
22:02 Arphimigon: i think it fits i m o
22:03 Slick: done
22:03 Arphimigon: 04:11:550 (2) -
22:03 Arphimigon: higher
22:03 Arphimigon: 10 or 15
22:03 Arphimigon: id say 15
22:03 Slick: done
22:04 Arphimigon: section after that feels quiet LOL
22:04 Arphimigon: its 70%
22:04 Arphimigon: why does everything feel quiet
22:04 Slick: what lol
22:05 Arphimigon: dw just me
22:05 Slick: yeah i need to map that last section for 5 min
22:05 Arphimigon: ^
22:05 Arphimigon: drain time
22:05 Arphimigon: was gonna mention that
22:05 Slick: just make everything there 5%?
22:05 Arphimigon: ye
22:05 Slick: i tried making the start of the slider 15% volume
22:05 Slick: then the ticks and end 5%
22:05 Slick: it's like that on all sliders
22:05 Slick: but just ignore and do everything 5%
22:05 Slick: `?
22:06 Arphimigon: which part
22:06 Slick: 04:33:460 (1) -
22:06 Arphimigon: no
22:06 Arphimigon: that feels good
22:06 Slick: so keep it the way i did
22:06 Arphimigon: wanna fix the drain problem without making the end all retarder?
22:07 Slick: depends on what it is?
22:07 Slick: spinner in the beginning?
22:07 Arphimigon: end spinner at 04:59:078 -
22:07 Arphimigon: the song needs to end at at least 5:02
22:08 Arphimigon: because it starts at 0:02
22:08 Arphimigon: 04:59:920 - you CAN add a note there
22:08 Arphimigon: 05:00:595 (1) - and one there
22:09 Arphimigon: 05:01:437 (2) - and one there
22:09 Arphimigon: but its a little weird
22:09 Slick: may be better than the spinner
22:09 Arphimigon: so make the first two notes
22:09 Arphimigon: the thing about drain time is
22:10 Arphimigon: only the spinner start and slider starts are counted
22:10 Arphimigon: if you end on a long ass spinner/slider it wont do much
22:10 Slick: i see
22:10 Slick: 05:01:437 - note here as well?
22:10 Arphimigon: lemme see
22:10 Arphimigon: the old drain wouldve ended 04:52:336 - LOL
22:10 Slick: slider may fit
22:10 Arphimigon: slider end wont do any good though
22:11 Slick: really?
22:11 Slick: i didn't know of that
22:11 Arphimigon: only the starts
22:11 Arphimigon: trust me ive had to fix this problem for a bunch of people
22:11 Slick: haha
22:11 Arphimigon: hm
22:11 Slick: yeah thanks
22:11 Arphimigon: 00:00:426 - spinner start here
22:11 Arphimigon: 00:01:606 - end here
22:12 Slick: is spinner long enough?
22:12 Slick: yup
22:12 Arphimigon: just the start matters
22:12 Arphimigon: its treated as a note
22:12 Slick: i see
22:12 Arphimigon: likewise with sliders
22:12 Arphimigon: its the same way with difficulty rating
22:12 Arphimigon: everything is treated as a note
22:13 Arphimigon: hence why big black is only 6.5 stars
22:13 Arphimigon: (yes i have proven this)
22:13 Slick: algorithm for diff calculation needs to be updated
22:13 Arphimigon: it cant
22:13 Arphimigon: sadly
22:13 Arphimigon: well it can but not any time soo
22:13 Arphimigon: soon*
22:13 Slick: :s
22:14 Arphimigon: since there is no coordinates given for slider ends in the .osu, the diffiuculty algorithm cant easily fetch slider end coordinates
22:14 Arphimigon: and to fetch them all by in-editor or other means would cause hell for the processor
22:14 Slick: haha
22:14 Arphimigon: so unlucky for us its bam stuck
22:14 Slick: yeah
22:14 Slick: 05:01:437 -
22:15 Slick: note here?
22:15 Arphimigon: 05:00:595 (1,2) - remove both actually
22:15 Arphimigon: oh no
22:15 Arphimigon: bad idea
22:15 Arphimigon: ye keep that end note
22:15 Slick: 05:00:595 (2) - ?
22:15 Arphimigon: ye
22:15 Arphimigon: that too
22:15 Slick: what about 05:01:437 - ?
22:15 Arphimigon: both
22:15 Slick: you said note there
22:16 Arphimigon: keep them both
22:16 Arphimigon: does it fit
22:16 Arphimigon: to you
22:16 Arphimigon: i also said 04:59:920 -
22:16 Slick: if it gives me 5 min drain time i'll do it
22:16 Slick: yeah i did those 2
22:16 Slick: but the third note
22:16 Slick: i should add that
22:17 Slick: i made it like this
22:17 Arphimigon: well
22:17 Slick: http://puu.sh/iMgh6.jpg
22:17 Arphimigon: you can remove the third
22:17 Arphimigon: either way you have 5 mins
22:17 Slick: idk the third kinda fits
22:18 Arphimigon: ye
22:18 Arphimigon: the other way to fix the problem wouldve been the reduce bpm by 1 option
22:18 Arphimigon: ive done that on 2 other maps
22:18 Arphimigon: made 3 extra drain time seconds
22:19 Slick: nice
22:19 Arphimigon: well it should be fine
22:19 Arphimigon: if not we can always reduce bpm by 1 after
22:19 Arphimigon: or 2 and remove the beginning spinner
22:20 Slick: reduce the bpm by 1
22:20 Slick: 177?
22:20 Arphimigon: ye
22:20 Arphimigon: that would give you (doing math)
22:20 Arphimigon: 2.5 more seconds on this bpm
22:20 Slick: wouldn't that cause havic
22:20 Arphimigon: actually just under 3
22:20 Slick: maps need to be properly timed?
22:21 Arphimigon: it wont be hard for me
22:21 Arphimigon: ive done it enough times
22:21 Arphimigon: (twice for others)
22:21 Slick: havoc*
22:21 Arphimigon: (more than twice for myself)
22:21 Arphimigon: eh no point worrying about that now
22:21 Arphimigon: it might not need to happen
22:21 Arphimigon: anything else you need on it?
22:21 Slick: the beginner spinner
22:22 Slick: it may seem out of place
22:22 Slick: any way to get 5 min drain time
22:22 Slick: adding one extra note in the end or some shit?
22:22 Arphimigon: end it at 00:01:774 -
22:22 Slick: done
22:22 Arphimigon: inb4 add a note at 05:03:123 -
22:23 Arphimigon: but you may want to make those notes audible IF you decide to keep them
22:23 Slick: with the note at 05:03:123 (2) - can we remove the beginner spinner?
22:23 Arphimigon: yes
22:23 Arphimigon: without doubt
22:23 Slick: i'll keep those 4 notes in the end xD
22:24 Arphimigon: increase vol
22:24 Arphimigon: 15/20%
22:24 Slick: should i start at like 25 , then go slowly down?
22:24 Arphimigon: hm
22:24 Slick: or just keep the volume steady
22:24 Arphimigon: 30 -> 20 -> 15 -> 10
22:24 Arphimigon: or 25
22:24 Arphimigon: ye 25 start it
22:25 Slick: so it's 25 -> 20 -> 15 -> 10
22:25 Slick: last note is 10 volume
22:25 Slick: it's all good now?
22:26 Arphimigon: ye
22:26 Arphimigon: get a BG if you can
22:26 Arphimigon: and submittio
22:27 Slick: yup
22:27 Slick: i wanna thank you for all the help you've given me with this map
22:27 Slick: you've helped shitloads
22:27 Slick: do you have paypal or something
22:27 Arphimigon: no
22:27 Arphimigon: dont pay me
22:27 Slick: i'd like to donate 10 or 15 euro as thanks
22:27 Slick: ;w;
22:27 Arphimigon: im not even done yet
22:27 Arphimigon: wait till i look at
22:27 Arphimigon: the map
22:27 *Arphimigon runs
22:28 Slick: xS
22:28 Arphimigon: as soon as you i need to actually test it
22:28 Arphimigon: cus it looks more like art than a map
22:28 Arphimigon: ofc you can have both
22:28 Arphimigon: but just saying
22:29 Slick: i'll just use this
22:29 Slick: http://puu.sh/iMh1N.png
22:29 Arphimigon: i have an A on Airman, HR Pensamento , DT Emerald Sword, two Chipscape es and I still reckon i wont be able to this map
22:29 Slick: whoa D:
22:30 Arphimigon: if i cant
22:30 Arphimigon: theres a problem
22:30 Arphimigon: *runs*
22:30 Slick: some parts hard to read
22:30 Slick: end dubstep hard cuz midge...
22:30 Arphimigon: was gonna mention them both
22:30 Arphimigon: some placements are generally poor
22:31 Arphimigon: and the end is a massive diffspike
22:31 Arphimigon: but hey
22:31 Arphimigon: its not anywhere near "remap" style
22:31 Arphimigon: its pretty damn good most the time
22:31 Slick: haha
22:31 Slick: yeah midge and 5eania are really good mappers
22:32 Slick: i'll use this most likely just as a temporary bg
22:32 Slick: i might make an SB
22:32 Arphimigon: not much point
22:32 Arphimigon: unless its for lyrics
22:33 Slick: i thought just for the collab
22:33 Slick: so when it 5eania and midges you know
22:33 Arphimigon: ah yea
22:33 Arphimigon: that makes sense
22:33 Slick: ing now
22:33 Slick: how do i link thier pages on the creator's words
22:34 Slick: you know make thier name blu and clickable to it links to thier page
22:34 Arphimigon: i cant right now
22:34 Arphimigon: probably the link option on the forums
22:35 Arphimigon: just edit the first post when you submit
22:35 Slick: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/s/330216
22:36 Slick: so what do i do?
22:36 Arphimigon: redling
22:36 Slick: i think i need to re to change the creator's word

log 2

17:55 Arphimigon: okay which part is getting remapped
17:56 Arphimigon: also bare with me my laptop is having a hard time so it randomly shuts off
17:56 Slick: D:
17:56 Slick: i'm unsure of what to do
17:56 Slick: but i know it has to be improved
17:56 Slick: 00:02:111 -
17:56 Slick: basically the whole beginning section before the first kiai
17:56 Arphimigon: stream is fine
17:56 Slick: needs work/polishing/remapping
17:57 Arphimigon: 00:04:471 (4,5) - this i dont like
17:57 Arphimigon: imo reverse slider should be where the note is
17:57 Arphimigon: or two sliders
17:57 Arphimigon: but not note then reverse slider, doesnt fit music as well as it could etc
17:58 Slick: damn
17:58 Slick: 2 sliders
17:58 Slick: fit much better
17:58 Slick: how did you noticea
17:58 Arphimigon: experience
17:58 Arphimigon: imo this start is wayyyyyy overmapped
17:59 Slick: i'm going to write all this down so i it for tomorrow
17:59 Slick: gonnar remap then
17:59 Arphimigon: well
17:59 Slick: those sections
17:59 Arphimigon: i could just say
17:59 Arphimigon: remap the start
17:59 Arphimigon: but ehhhhh
17:59 Slick: yeah
17:59 Slick: but to remapa
17:59 Arphimigon: i feel like way more longer sliders would fit the start
17:59 Arphimigon: much more
17:59 Slick: you must have a solution to the problem that are there
17:59 Arphimigon: 00:02:617 - like skip this beat etc
18:00 Arphimigon: long sliders
18:00 Arphimigon: + slower SV
18:00 Arphimigon: well around 1x SV works if you add longer sliders
18:00 Slick: too fast
18:00 Arphimigon: 1.2 is too fast gonna test others
18:01 Arphimigon: eh go for 0.8 to 0.9
18:01 Slick: like 0,70 - 0,90 is decent speed
18:01 Slick: for outside kiai
18:01 Slick: this
18:01 Slick: 00:09:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
18:01 Slick: it flows bad
18:01 Arphimigon: i feel like 0.8 is too slow
18:01 Arphimigon: 0.8
18:01 Arphimigon: 0.9*
18:01 Arphimigon: use 0.9*
18:02 Arphimigon: 00:09:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - agreed this isnt nice at all
18:02 Arphimigon: 00:09:527 (2,3,4) - its because of this
18:02 Slick: i don't know what patterns flow good
18:02 Arphimigon: well
18:02 Arphimigon: the movement from 2 to 3 to 4 looks good right now
18:03 Arphimigon: but its not </3
18:03 Arphimigon: id say
18:03 Slick: it's kinda cramped
18:03 Arphimigon: for this kinda flow made from 1 to 2 to 3 makes a oval shape
18:03 Slick: this 00:09:022 (6,1,2) -
18:03 Arphimigon: so slider 4 shouldnt point point
18:03 Arphimigon: it shouldnt point down*
18:04 Arphimigon: 00:09:022 (6,1,2) - this is fine
18:04 Slick: really?
18:04 Slick: lol
18:04 Arphimigon: okay ill screenie what i would do to see if you like it
18:04 Arphimigon: and just say all the steps
18:05 Arphimigon: 00:09:359 (1,2,3) - move 3 to its more left of 1, fits from the curve of the last slider to do a back and forth jump here for one time
18:05 Slick: i'll remap
18:06 Arphimigon: well i rushed this http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3378846
18:06 Arphimigon: but it fits after the curve of slider 6 better
18:07 Slick: yup
18:07 Slick: 00:16:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - doesn't flow well
18:07 Slick: that is just stupid of me
18:07 Arphimigon: oh god
18:07 Arphimigon: why did you
18:07 Arphimigon: even
18:07 Arphimigon: >triplet triangles
18:07 Arphimigon: i hate seeing them
18:08 Slick: need to be remade
18:08 Arphimigon: not really
18:08 Slick: repatterned
18:08 Arphimigon: 00:15:932 (1,2,3,4,5) - all good
18:08 Arphimigon: 6 is too linear with 4 and 5
18:08 Arphimigon: should be more right
18:10 Arphimigon: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3378865 this works nicely
18:10 Slick: it's the biggest problem of this map...
18:10 Slick: need to make the beginning flow better
18:10 Slick: yeah i'll do that
18:10 Arphimigon: cool
18:11 Slick: 00:17:280 - 00:27:729 -
18:11 Slick: is that section okay?
18:11 Arphimigon: thats a long section
18:11 Slick: after 00:27:729 - it becomes kinda shit again
18:11 Arphimigon: 00:19:302 (6,7,8) - nope
18:11 Arphimigon: actually imma watch it all first again
18:12 Arphimigon: its alright
18:12 Arphimigon: not amazing
18:12 Slick: more polishing?
18:12 Slick: and harder?
18:12 Arphimigon: 00:18:460 (5) - if you are going to extend this slider, make it more wiggly
18:12 Slick: i should probably make the beginning a bit harder as well since it's so easy compared to the rest of the map
18:12 Slick: yeah i'll fix that
18:12 Arphimigon: its way too straight and its played in a straight line, making it a long boring part
18:13 Arphimigon: afk again
18:16 Arphimigon: boom back
18:17 Slick: nice
18:17 Arphimigon: 00:19:302 - https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3378887 nice little jump after the long break by the slider
18:18 Slick: i'm ing all these screenshots
18:18 Arphimigon: lol okay
18:18 Arphimigon: arent you editing now though?
18:18 Slick: no
18:18 Slick: i feel so tired
18:18 Slick: ...
18:18 Arphimigon: 00:20:482 (2,3) - curve doesnt really fit together
18:18 Arphimigon: kinda minor thing
18:18 Arphimigon: ill skip it
18:18 Slick: naw, could be better
18:18 Arphimigon: 00:21:325 (4) - unneccesarily high SV
18:19 Slick: also needs to be remade
18:19 Slick: i'll make it 0,90
18:19 Arphimigon: 00:28:066 (1) - i feel like this is gonna cause a bunch of annoyance
18:20 Slick: haven't raised anything
18:20 Slick: hasn't*
18:20 Slick: i'm not sure
18:20 Arphimigon: the dip is the problem
18:20 Slick: yup
18:20 Arphimigon: you can keep it
18:20 Arphimigon: but make it a liiiitle smaller
18:20 Slick: 00:28:404 (2,3,4,5) -
18:20 Slick: feels weird
18:20 Arphimigon: then redue SV to 1.3 or smth
18:20 Slick: will do
18:20 Arphimigon: ye i was gonna mention that part too
18:20 Arphimigon: 00:28:404 (2,3) - its mainly this
18:21 Arphimigon: counter-intuiative play
18:21 Arphimigon: normally not expecting for a 1/4 snap blanket like this
18:21 Slick: ah
18:21 Arphimigon: also 00:28:404 (2,3,4) - the 1/4 snap is larger than the 1/2
18:21 Slick: yeah needs to be remade
18:21 Arphimigon: so just move slider 3 way higher
18:21 Slick: oh shit i thought that was 174
18:22 Slick: 1/4*
18:22 Arphimigon: lo
18:22 Arphimigon: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3378904 boom fixed
18:22 Arphimigon: 00:30:426 (10,1) - bad blanket
18:23 Slick: doesn't play well?
18:23 Arphimigon: no it doesnt look right
18:23 Arphimigon: plays fine
18:23 Slick: how do i fix it?
18:23 Arphimigon: you can fix blankets ur a god at that
18:24 Slick: just the blanket that's all?
18:24 Arphimigon: yup
18:24 Arphimigon: it looks off is all
18:24 Slick: 00:30:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
18:24 Arphimigon: 00:30:426 (10) - move to x:436 y:199 fixed
18:24 Slick: all this is so fucking tame
18:24 Arphimigon: its good
18:25 Arphimigon: 00:33:123 (6) - make into 2 notes
18:25 Arphimigon: 00:33:291 - the second being here
18:25 Slick: sounds a lot better
18:25 Arphimigon: might be hard to place
18:25 Slick: you got a really good ears
18:26 Arphimigon: unless you move 00:33:460 (1) -
18:26 Slick: no i'll think of something
18:26 Arphimigon: im not listening to the music too much
18:26 Arphimigon: more looking to what would seem best as a player
18:26 Arphimigon: thats how i make my maps anyway
18:26 Slick: lol
18:26 Slick: should i do the same here?
18:26 Slick: 00:35:819 (9) -
18:26 Arphimigon: nextu
18:27 Arphimigon: not really
18:27 Arphimigon: since 00:35:314 (8) - there was a 1/2 gap between this and the next slider so it should be fine
18:28 Arphimigon: 00:36:662 (3) - too much curve on the end of this
18:29 Arphimigon: make it flatter imo
18:30 Slick: 00:37:168 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
18:30 Slick: does this flow okay?
18:30 Arphimigon: not really
18:30 Arphimigon: then again a little off is good
18:30 Arphimigon: 00:37:842 (2,3) - so hard to hit
18:31 Slick: yeah, need to be remade
18:31 Slick: 00:40:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
18:31 Slick: this shouldn't be too bad though
18:31 Arphimigon: thats fine
18:31 Arphimigon: 00:41:213 (2) - move more right though
18:32 Slick: will do
18:32 Arphimigon: 00:41:550 (1) - this start curve looks bad imo
18:33 Slick: yeah it does
18:33 Slick: needs to be fixed
18:33 Arphimigon: 00:45:763 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - epic
18:33 Slick: haha it's so ironic
18:33 Slick: not my pattern
18:34 Slick: copy from
18:34 *Slick is listening to [http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/348169 Otokaze - Sakura Memory]
18:34 Arphimigon: lol
18:34 Arphimigon: 00:47:954 (1,2,3,1) - well this isnt
18:34 Slick: yeah
18:35 Arphimigon: kinda hard to fix
18:35 Slick: yeah i feel sick just looking at the beginning
18:35 Arphimigon: 00:48:291 - end here
18:36 Arphimigon: actually
18:36 Slick: i always try to avoid the beginning when i'm in the editor of this map
18:36 Arphimigon: 00:48:460 - end the slider there
18:36 Slick: and do what more?
18:36 Arphimigon: well this rhythm works http://puu.sh/iWzog/9ff7c02f4d.jpg
18:37 Arphimigon: posistioning isnt easy with it though
18:37 Slick: i'll just have to figure something out
18:37 Slick: i will do it though
18:37 Slick: sounds a lot better
18:37 Arphimigon: nvrmnd got a fix
18:37 Arphimigon: http://puu.sh/iWzrZ/344a94c753.jpg
18:37 Arphimigon: if you want it
18:38 Slick: thanks
18:38 Slick: looks good
18:38 Slick: 00:49:471 - 00:55:033 -
18:38 Arphimigon: 00:50:988 (4,1) - kinda weird
18:38 Slick: that section plays really badly
18:38 Slick: yeah weird
18:38 Arphimigon: 00:51:325 (1) - make it into a "normal" place
18:38 Arphimigon: like um
18:39 Arphimigon: x:239 y:302
18:39 Slick: yup
18:40 Arphimigon: 00:51:325 (1,2,3) - then this would be a problm though
18:40 Slick: that section needs to be remapped for better flow
18:40 Arphimigon: 00:51:493 (2) - x:243 y:132 after then
18:41 Slick: yup
18:41 Arphimigon: 00:53:179 (6,7,8,1) - this is bad
18:41 Slick: yeah also flows bad
18:42 Arphimigon: well it can stay though
18:42 Slick: all shit...
18:42 Arphimigon: it works in a way
18:42 Arphimigon: just not the usual way
18:42 Slick: i'll try to think of something to make it better when remapping
18:42 Slick: 00:55:370 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
18:42 Slick: these jumps okay?
18:42 Arphimigon: kiiinda
18:43 Slick: spacing increase during vocal
18:43 Arphimigon: 00:56:044 (6,7,1) - gonna be hard to keep on that slider though
18:44 Slick: can it go towards a better direction?
18:44 Slick: for example 00:56:213 (7) -
18:44 Arphimigon: eh it should be fine
18:44 Arphimigon: nah the jumps are good
18:44 Slick: nvm
18:44 Arphimigon: 00:56:381 (1,2,3,4) - 4 feels better much higher than it is
18:46 Slick: what does that mean?
18:46 Arphimigon: move 4 higher
18:46 Slick: stack or near 00:57:561 (7) - ?
18:46 Arphimigon: stack 7 feels really nice
18:47 Slick: 01:01:774 - kiai shouldn't be too bad
18:47 Arphimigon: but if you stack 7
18:47 Arphimigon: then move 7 lower
18:47 Arphimigon: dont stack 4 and 7
18:47 Arphimigon: ctrl-g 4 and 7 all fixd
18:48 Slick: that removes the perfect square though ;w;
18:48 Arphimigon: well you gotta compromise
18:48 Slick: if it plays better i will do it
18:48 Slick: ofc
18:49 Slick: not much more now
18:49 Slick: the kiai though
18:49 Slick: v
18:49 Slick: 01:01:774 -
18:49 Arphimigon: rip more
18:49 Slick: should be fine in general
18:49 Slick:
18:49 Arphimigon: ill whizz through it
18:49 Arphimigon: 01:05:819 (4,5) - look almost touching, spread them a few pixels more
18:50 Slick: what direction should this reverse arrow point?
18:50 Slick: 01:03:291 (1) -
18:50 Arphimigon: that is good how it is
18:50 Slick: didn't notice, gonna fix it
18:50 Slick: alright
18:51 Slick: but that should be enough
18:51 Slick: the rest is actually not
18:51 Slick: i can fix it
18:51 Slick: it's not as bad as the beginning
18:51 Arphimigon: 01:07:168 (1) - so many missed beats rip
18:51 Slick: you deserve kds for this mod...
18:51 Arphimigon: im not even 25% done
18:51 Arphimigon: k
18:51 Slick: 25% done?
18:51 Slick: you have 75% more stuff?
18:51 Arphimigon: we finished at 21%
18:52 Slick: well there isn't much more awkwardness than the beginning
18:52 Slick: only a few moments i think i can squash on my own
18:52 Arphimigon: you say that
18:52 Arphimigon: well
18:52 Arphimigon: ill check it another time
18:52 Arphimigon: afk
18:52 Slick: save it for your mod

log 3

18:14 Arphimigon: you know you kinda said to a lot of mods that you needed to ask someone else about it for another opinion
18:14 Arphimigon: >scans through all the mods
18:15 Slick: 00:25:707 (2) - this note
18:15 Slick: yeah i know
18:15 Slick: fuck my insecurity
18:15 Arphimigon: i saw that one lately
18:15 Arphimigon: but also in lots of other mods you done that
18:15 Slick: everyone mentions that
18:16 Slick: yeah
18:16 Slick: quite a bit of the "Pending" ones
18:16 Slick: are because it's not my part though
18:16 Slick: like 5eania or midge
18:16 Slick: but do you wanna go through them with me?
18:16 Arphimigon: sure
18:16 Slick: the ones i've said like not sure what to do
18:16 Slick: thanks
18:16 Arphimigon: thats what i was going to ask
18:16 Arphimigon: since im doing nothing anyway
18:17 Slick: 02:24:864 (4,5,6) - , exa said these are too big
18:17 Slick: i honestly wanna push for an extra diff
18:17 Arphimigon: yes those are wayyyyyyyyy too big
18:17 Arphimigon: tbh
18:17 Arphimigon: let me check the jumps before them
18:17 Arphimigon: 02:23:348 (4,5,6,7) -
18:18 Arphimigon: and i guess 02:20:819 (1,2,3) -
18:18 Slick: yeah
18:18 Slick: the buildup seems reasonable to me
18:18 Arphimigon: buildup is fine
18:18 Slick: the increased spacing of jumps
18:18 Arphimigon: if the song was short or so
18:18 Arphimigon: but those jumps are pretty much literally the only big jumps in the whole song
18:18 Arphimigon: rip combo breaks left right and center for one point
18:19 Slick: yup
18:19 Slick: but i'm still not too keen on nerfing them
18:19 Arphimigon: it feels bad to have that there
18:19 Arphimigon: this is still easily an extra without them
18:19 Arphimigon: so yeah im in favour of nerfing
18:19 Slick: okay
18:19 Slick: 02:34:471 (1,1) - this looks bad - exa
18:20 Arphimigon: that end tiny part is a bit bad
18:20 Arphimigon: after the smooth curve
18:20 Arphimigon: 02:35:651 - right there
18:20 Slick: smoothen the curve inwards?
18:20 Arphimigon: mhm
18:21 Slick: 02:43:572 (2) - shouldn't overlap this
18:21 Slick: exa
18:21 Arphimigon: thats fine imo
18:22 Slick: agreed
18:22 Arphimigon: wont cause a problem and doesnt look bad
18:22 Slick: 03:28:572 (1) - could be much better - exa
18:22 Slick: i honestly thought that looked pretty nice
18:22 Slick: ;w;
18:22 Arphimigon: that looks fine wat
18:22 Arphimigon: exa pls
18:23 Slick: clicknoise next
18:23 Arphimigon: cooooolio
18:23 Slick: he mentioned often to stack notes
18:23 Slick: but i thought they played better unstacked
18:23 Slick: 01:09:527 (1,3) -
18:23 Arphimigon: better unstacked
18:24 Slick: 01:20:314 (3,4,5) - this too
18:24 Slick: stack 3 on 5
18:24 Arphimigon: bad idea
18:24 Arphimigon: do you have stacking option enabled?
18:24 Slick: no, i'm in editor with the ingame stack lenicency
18:24 Slick: or w/e it's called
18:24 Slick: should i disable it
18:24 Arphimigon: view -> stacking
18:24 Arphimigon: thats enabled right
18:25 Slick: yeah
18:25 Arphimigon: good
18:25 Arphimigon: you can see why stacking them would be bad
18:25 Slick: the streams in the guitar part he mentions
18:25 Slick: for example 01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) -
18:25 Slick: make them a straight line
18:25 Arphimigon: that part could be either, preference really
18:26 Arphimigon: i would do straight since i map simple stuff but id say you would prefer that
18:26 Slick: he also mentions to make this note 02:41:213 (3) -
18:26 Slick: like equally inbetween the 2 sliders
18:26 Arphimigon: wow um
18:26 Arphimigon: no
18:26 Slick: but it ruins flow
18:26 Slick: well spacing isn't even then
18:26 Slick: if i do that
18:26 Slick: so i'll keep it the way it is
18:26 Arphimigon: tbh i would make slider 4 a biiiit further
18:27 Arphimigon: to make it obvious it isnt a 1/4 snap
18:27 Slick: aye
18:27 Arphimigon: but yeah that means moving the whole pattern after asdf
18:27 Slick: i'll do that
18:27 Slick: move 4 a bit further
18:27 Arphimigon: coolio
18:27 Arphimigon: higher, make it higher
18:27 Slick: will do
18:27 Slick: Sangzin next
18:28 Slick: so yeah this note 00:25:707 (2) -
18:28 Arphimigon: haha
18:28 Slick: many mention to stack it
18:28 Arphimigon: i think we should leave that to the end tbh
18:28 Slick: but i think it plays best like that
18:28 Slick: okay xD
18:28 Slick: he says to end this slider 01:23:347 (1) -
18:28 Slick: on 01:25:370 - instead of 01:25:538 -
18:29 Arphimigon: kinda agreed
18:29 Arphimigon: lemme change myself and listen
18:29 Arphimigon: yeah agreed
18:29 Arphimigon: 01:28:572 (1) - way too fast just sayin
18:30 Slick: will reduce the sv of it
18:30 Slick: and change the end of that slider if i manage to make it look good xD
18:30 Slick: i probably will
18:30 Arphimigon: knowing you? yeah you will
18:31 Slick: 01:25:707 (1) - he says to swap out this with a circle
18:31 Slick: since the overlap is bad
18:31 Arphimigon: wow thats a tricky one
18:31 Arphimigon: both are equally good there imo
18:31 Slick: well actually
18:31 Arphimigon: id say a slider still
18:31 Slick: if i end that long slider earlier
18:31 Slick: i can map it without the overlap
18:32 Slick: so it's gonna work out i think
18:32 Arphimigon: keep the slider then
18:32 Slick: he says 01:56:718 (4) - stack this note on (3)
18:32 Slick: but it's unstacked for even spacing
18:32 Arphimigon: that placement is in general bad for that part
18:33 Arphimigon: put it in the free space up-left
18:33 Slick: keeping the even spacing?
18:33 Arphimigon: eh it gets broken really quickly after
18:34 Slick: oaky
18:34 Slick: okay*
18:34 Arphimigon: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3421367 i say this
18:34 Slick: looks good
18:34 Slick: will do that
18:34 Slick: he says to 02:35:819 (2) - delete that note
18:34 Slick: and extend the slider
18:34 Slick: where that note is
18:35 Arphimigon: well it makes sense
18:35 Arphimigon: in a way
18:35 Arphimigon: lemme think about that one
18:35 Arphimigon: ye remove
18:35 Slick: brb gotta let cat in
18:35 Arphimigon: well im gonna mention a ton of things about overmapping when i get to this seriously
18:36 Arphimigon: just saying
18:37 Slick: nice
18:37 Arphimigon: i gotta run afk again making beverageessss
18:37 Arphimigon: (so much afk asdf)
18:37 Slick: np
18:51 Slick: back?
18:51 Arphimigon: ye just got back
18:51 Arphimigon: literally
18:51 Slick: only like 3 mods left now
18:52 Arphimigon: goodie lets do dis
18:52 Slick: holynightmare next
18:52 Arphimigon: oh yay
18:52 Arphimigon: holynightmare is cool
18:52 Slick: 00:18:291 (4) - not not needed
18:53 Slick: note not*
18:53 Arphimigon: its needed but in a different weay
18:53 Arphimigon: 00:17:954 (3) - reduce length perhaps
18:53 Slick: yup
18:53 Slick: 00:47:786 (6) - ^ same
18:54 Slick: he says it's not needed either
18:54 Arphimigon: i like that one
18:54 Slick: yeah, it didn't sound to bad
18:54 Arphimigon: however for that remove the not
18:54 Arphimigon: note*
18:54 Slick: too bad*
18:54 Arphimigon: and extend the slider
18:55 Slick: will do
18:55 Slick: 01:18:291 (3) - note not needed
18:55 Arphimigon: keep that
18:55 Arphimigon: it sounds great there
18:56 Slick: and he says this 01:21:156 (7) - ^
18:56 Slick: like also not needed
18:56 Slick: but i assume he means 01:20:988 (6) -
18:57 Arphimigon: i like that too
18:57 Slick: 01:53:347 (2) - note not needed
18:58 Arphimigon: remove and extend slider
18:58 Arphimigon: besides that looks way too cramped
18:58 Slick: yeah >_<
18:59 Arphimigon: nextu
18:59 Slick: mercury2004 next
18:59 Slick: he says to put this note 00:24:696 (7) - on x440 y228
18:59 Slick: really weird imo
18:59 Slick: maybe he was modding an older version or something
18:59 Arphimigon: that is so
18:59 Arphimigon: weird
18:59 Arphimigon: dont do that
19:00 Slick: cause i've had him check older unsubmitted version
19:00 Arphimigon: oh yeah
19:00 Arphimigon: i this wayyyy back then
19:00 Slick: this note 01:02:786 (4) - x284 y28
19:00 Slick: also really weird
19:01 Arphimigon: thats
19:01 Arphimigon: really weird
19:01 Arphimigon: dont do that
19:01 Slick: Underdogs next
19:01 Slick: 01:02:786 (4) - legal circle+
19:01 Slick: ?
19:01 Slick: is it too far out
19:01 Arphimigon: a bit risky
19:02 Arphimigon: i would raise a bit
19:02 Arphimigon: (was gonna mention before but w/e)
19:02 Slick: better safe than sorry i guess
19:02 Slick: crimmi next
19:02 Slick: 00:10:875 (1,2,3,4) - don't fit the rhythm ending on blue ticks
19:03 Arphimigon: i was gonna mention that in my mod
19:03 Arphimigon: but ye
19:03 Arphimigon: that rhythm scks
19:03 Slick: 01:27:392 (1) - end on red tick
19:04 Arphimigon: ye do that
19:04 Slick: really?
19:04 Slick: imo sounds better extended
19:04 Arphimigon: its a weird section
19:05 Arphimigon: let me listen for a bit
19:05 Arphimigon: eh keep it w/e its dodgy anyway
19:06 Slick: streeteelf last
19:07 Slick: 00:02:449 -
19:07 Arphimigon: mmm
19:07 Slick: reduce the sv of all sliders untill 00:10:033 -
19:07 Slick: i tried long ago
19:07 Slick: reducing the SV of all sliders before 00:10:033 -
19:07 Slick: but it just didn't feel good
19:07 Arphimigon: not much point imo
19:07 Slick: but it may have been because i'm so used to those being fast
19:08 Arphimigon: i like it how it is
19:08 Slick: me 2
19:08 Slick: yeah he also mentions the same jumps exa did
19:08 Slick: too big
19:08 Slick: 00:57:224 (5,6,7) -
19:08 Slick: on both bulidups
19:08 Arphimigon: needs to be like slightly lower on the second atleast
19:09 Arphimigon: tbh fullscreen jumps on a map like this? just no
19:09 Arphimigon: song*
19:09 Slick: (6) ?
19:09 Arphimigon: ye 5 to 6
19:09 Slick: yeah and 01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) -
19:09 Slick: mentions also to make them straight line but
19:10 Slick: we talked about that already
19:10 Arphimigon: ill test it again before i check it like a sniper
19:10 Arphimigon: 01:39:190 (1,2,3) - move either 2 higher or 3 lower just sayin
19:10 Slick: nice
19:11 Slick: will do
19:11 Slick: last note
19:11 Slick: 00:25:707 (2) -
19:11 Arphimigon: oh
19:11 Slick: it's unstacked for even spacing
19:11 Arphimigon: its up to that now
19:11 Arphimigon: i wouldnt stack nope
19:11 Arphimigon: well not there atleast
19:12 Arphimigon: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/3421544 this looks so weird
19:12 Slick: but plays better?
19:12 Arphimigon: i would say so
19:12 Slick: i can probably do that
19:13 Slick: while keeping the spacing even
19:13 Slick: well that should be it
19:13 Arphimigon: woot
19:13 Slick: it's worth kds
19:13 Arphimigon: i should post this with the ultramod
19:13 Slick: post the log and title it "all the mod suggestions slick was being a little bitch about"
19:13 *Arphimigon runs
19:13 Arphimigon: about time i started that
19:14 Slick: ?
19:14 Slick: did you want to discuss
19:15 Slick: all the things i ed on as well?
19:15 Arphimigon: what things
19:15 Slick: i only talked now about the suggestions that i was uncertian about
19:15 Arphimigon: hm
19:15 Slick: there are suggestions i ed as well
19:15 Arphimigon: cant hurt to look at them
19:15 Slick: lol
19:15 Arphimigon: but if you felt sure of ing them you have your reasons
19:16 Slick: okay we can take a look at some
19:17 Slick: 00:23:853 (5) -
19:17 Slick: place the end closer to 6
19:17 Slick: actually i didn't on many suggestions
19:17 Arphimigon: that slider is fine how it is, however making it closer is preference
19:18 Arphimigon: your call its not a big change either way
19:18 Slick: 00:53:684 (1) - ctrl + g for better flow
19:18 Slick: i ed on it
19:18 Slick: flows even worse that way imop
19:18 Slick: imo*
19:18 Arphimigon: wow thats a bad iea
19:18 Arphimigon: 00:53:347 (7,8,1) - like really
19:18 Slick: xD
19:18 Slick: it already flows badly
19:18 Arphimigon: no its fine now
19:18 Slick: well that should be it
19:19 Slick: not much i ed on
19:19 Slick: post the log now
19:19 Arphimigon: not yet
19:19 Arphimigon: imma post this with the mod
19:19 *Arphimigon runs
19:19 Arphimigon: imma afk, hop back and get to it
19:19 Slick: np
19:19 Slick: i'll save log
19:19 *Slick is editing [http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/731905 Rita - Bookmark Memories [Grimoire]]

FINALLY I'm getting to mod this, I when it was half mapped and not even submitted.
What a long way it's been.

[Grimoire]
SB doesn't even change until about half way in that's sad imo
Two main problems would be overmapping and rhythm in general. There are weird points but those two cover up 90% of things that need to be fixed here.
A LOT of "make this slider 1/4 shorter"
Lets begin!

HP6 on that end slider + spinner? Pls 5. Fort sh be nice to the HR/EZ player over here.

-Intro- (up to 00:17:280 - )
Rhythm in here isnt bad but I guess it could be improved at a bunch of points, esp the end.
For instance maybe a note 00:04:724 - could suit or something. fixed
00:10:117 - and a note here could suit also fixed
00:10:875 (1,2,3,4) - This is so unfitting perhaps a rhythm with less constant holding, try this, where note 1 starts at 00:10:875 - : fixed

Rhythm

00:03:628 (1) - Weird NC by itself fixed
00:07:168 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - We spoke about rhythm here fixed
00:09:022 (6) - Looks better as a normal curve fixed
00:15:932 (1) - Turn into a note, there is no ive sound at the end of this fixed
00:16:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Pattern fix? k fixed

Its not perfect but its better than what was there before

-Second thingy section- (up to kiai)
00:17:954 (3) - Two notes instead fit way better here and probably transition better into the slow slider fixed
00:21:831 (2) - Change into a note then a slider, a reverse slider starting on a red tick is weird here. fixed
00:21:831 (2,3,1) - Dodgy spacing, the 1/2 is almost as close as the 1/4 in a near space in time, please fix that if you dont do the above suggestion. fixed
00:26:802 (2) - No emphasis on this note, triplets actually start at 00:26:887 - so you may want to move this pattern further on the timeline fixed

Better triplet rhtyhm k

00:29:246 (1,2,3) - Triplet makes sense here but sadly for the player it is offputting since 1/4 isnt nice to play after a long slider like so, i would just remove the first note there fixed
00:30:763 (1,2,3) - In general, two long sliders like this are best accompanied by 1/2 after, so basically make a sound at 00:31:943 - and make 00:31:774 (3) - not so long fixed
00:32:617 (5) - Make this 1/4 shorter fixed
00:33:965 (3,4) - Ahem, I think note 3 would fit as a long slider fixed

Like so

00:34:640 (5) - Make 1/4 shorter? fixed
00:34:640 (5) - This wave sucks just letting you know, I can't give a better one since I suck more but im sure you can fixed
00:36:156 (1,2) - Perhaps three notes fit nicer here, does to me at least. Or at minimum make the slider end sooner. fixed
00:38:010 (3) - This start curve is hard to play in, try making a little smother like this: fixed

SLIDER

00:38:347 (4,5,6) - Space 6 a bit more up-right please fixed
00:38:853 (1,1) - Too much spacing between these, move the first slider closer, and also perhaps rotate it 5 or 10 degrees to improve on the curve into the big one fixed
00:40:538 (1,2,3) - Im not sure about whether these should stay at all so make 00:39:359 (1) - extended by a 1/2 beat and remove the next note after that fixed
00:43:235 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Too many damn long sliders asdffff, end 00:44:246 (1) - 1/4 earlier, and also make 00:44:752 (2) - end 1/4 earlier fixed
00:50:988 (4) - Extend 1/4, but use the scale function since if you make the slider end further it will ruin the motion made. fixed

What I just said

00:51:662 (6) - Turn into two notes please! Or you could turn this whole thing 00:51:662 (6,7) - into a reverse 1/2 slider fixed
00:52:336 (1,2) - Imo suits if there is no blanket and the note just follows the slider normally fixed
00:53:684 (1) - End 1/4 earlier again, sorry if it ruins this pattern fixed
00:54:190 (2,3,4) - Really weird to play likely due to the reverse starting on red tick, note + slider here fixed
00:55:370 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Jumps build up way too high way too quickly, its not THAT emphasised here, esp 00:57:224 (5,6) - perhaps limit at 2.3 or even 2 DS fixed
00:58:404 (1) - That curve on the slider doesnt look right, dont know why oh well fixed
00:58:404 (1,2,1) - Make that end slider into two notes it fits sooo nicely here fixed
01:00:089 (1,2,3,4,5) - This sudden turn into this slider could be better if... well um you changed the slider completely. Eh you can keep it but I would make the slider into a sort of curve that does with that stream. fixed

-First kiai-
No longer sliders really? Alrighty then
01:02:954 (5,1) - Me and my hatred of red tick offbeat sliders when they aren't needed... hate much. fixed
01:04:134 (2,3) - Move note 3 so it follows this curve, the curve of the slider is likely to be played in full here so yeah, move that note. fixed
01:07:168 (1) - You may want to shorten this but honestly I like it, your choice except the SLIDERTICK HITSOUNDING which as far as I know since it sounds like a normal hitsound is unrankable so just remove the slider tick hitsounding. If I'm wrong then kill me.
01:09:864 (3,4) - Too spaced for a 1/4, raise it higher and basically this whole pattern 01:10:201 (4,5,6,7) - from that corner too fixed
01:12:561 (1) - asdf slider tick hitsounding i guess it happens often ill just not say anything
01:15:932 (4) - Tbh making this into a 3/4 length slider like 01:15:257 (1) - fits nicely here then making 01:16:269 - into a note like 01:15:595 (2) - and adding another note after is cool fixed
01:17:617 (1) - Remove NC, add it to the next slider fixed

After first kiai to some point
01:28:572 (1) - Mentioned that it was too fast before, but imo I would just make it into a note fixed
01:30:679 (4,5) - Bluez imma cry, use the below rhythm but make sure the notes are close oki? let's talk about this

Rhythm to fix above problem

01:31:774 (1,2,3) - Reverse slider and short jump here ftw ^
01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - Thats a lot of notes, perhaps 01:36:493 (1,2) - slider to avoid finger death for the less stamina filled people ^
01:44:078 (1) - Sorry again but end 1/4 earlier ^
01:45:257 (1) - End curve could be improved to play nicer ive done it earlier i think fixed
01:45:595 (2,3) - Um a but of a fast 1/4 snap followed by a stack, perhaps make the slider 1/4 shorter fixed
01:50:314 (1,2) - These 1/4 snaps are killing my mind and even after that look at the distance of the 1/2 is lesss than half ;-; rip reading haha, lets talk about that
01:56:887 (1,2) - 1/1 length slider and two notes pls ^
02:16:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Wat. Explain this overmapped, idk what 2 do
02:23:348 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - JUMPS WOW nerf pls... just a little but NOT massive fullscreen. IM not saying make them normal jumps eitehr. fixed
02:24:022 (1) - End 1/4 earlier again, fast ass slider into 1/4 snap whilst being hard to control is bad and also this is hard to read and understand that 1/4 note so just, make the slider end earlierfast ass slider fixed

02:29:415 - onwards to first dubstep drop
02:32:111 (1) - Extend 1/4 and reverse it? Your choice entirely ofc not a big one think i'll
02:37:168 (1,2,1) - Space notes a bit? imo vocals need it fixed
02:47:954 (3,4,1,2,3) - Feels so linearrrrr but you cant change it so w/e skip it

-DUBSTEP DROP ONE!?-
02:56:044 (1,2,1) - It was way better as a stacked stream. Hands down.
03:02:448 (4,1) - Not a fan of directly stacking something on a hold slider, perhaps not a direct stack but only a partial overlap?
03:12:477 (7,1) - Eh this could blanket better, lower the curve 4 pixels or smth
03:13:909 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I really want to play this as a sort of stream, esp since we had slider jumps just before 03:13:572 (2,3) - so it drowns out this little section
03:16:943 (3) - You sure about reverse slidering this? Rhythm is better as a note to start it, and a note for the red tick then a slider on the white tick where it ended.

-After dubstep drop, chill-
I liked this section tbh
03:19:977 (2,3,4) - Broken spacing, you know what to do here. fixed
03:22:336 (1,2) - Merge together, just extend the slider and remove the note fixed
03:32:111 (5,6) - Imo this vocal sounds better as two 1/2 sliders, more punchy. fixed
03:35:988 (2,3,4) - Reallllly risky there's the awkward play into that last slider and the next thats almost offscreen but overlapping the HP bar, move that 3 note down at least fixed
03:40:875 (1,1,2,3) - Blah blah weird 1/4 snap after long slider blah make its end 1/4 earlier blah fixed
03:44:583 (4,5,6) - make 5 into note, move 6 back 1/2 of a beat and add a note.

-THE HARD PART v2!?-
04:26:718 (1,1,1,1) - Playing this is like asking myself to... well I guess play that. Its way too jerky on the starts and causes the player to mess up the flow needed to actually play the pattern. Basically don't use those types of sliders, it sucks in this pattern in this particular way.
04:27:729 (1,2,1,2) - Before on the doubles part (kinda doubles, this part 04:17:027 (2,1,2) - ) you increased the spacing of the second, id like to see that here.

-The sloooooooooooooooooooooooow end
05:03:123 - Consider ending slider here




I thought this mod was gonna be longer lol.
Have fun.

Rita - Bookmark Memories 1s2t46

Giralda wrote: 3f5c51

Hey o/

[Grimore]
00:15:932 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not the best flow here. Coming off the stream on a linear flow at 00:15:932 (1,2,3) - but then coming back up on a really awkward angle is kinda meh. Try using Ctrl+G on these two objects 00:16:437 (4,6) as this would help contrast 00:16:437 (4,5,6) - with 00:15:932 (1,2,3) - much better than what you had before. fixed
00:10:875 (1) - You may want to snap this circle to at least 1.00x. Right now it plays really awkwardly and the fact that it's not at 1.00x means it's slower than what your slider velocity asks for. fixed
01:00:089 (1) - Rather awkward placement to build up your stream. You had a nice up-and-down movement happening over at 00:59:078 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and then suddenly the flow switches into a stream that doesn't respect the build-up. As a solution, I would love to see the stream start at where 01:00:341 (4) - is located. fixed
01:09:359 (7,1,2) - This sudden change into linear flow is really random and doesn't fit well into what the music warrants, nor does it fit into what you were doing with circle patterns prior to this. changed a little
01:38:516 (4,5) - This is angled rather awkwardly and doesn't play that well. How about angling it down to the left instead of up? fixed
The map is a beyond what I can handle myself so I'm not really able to judge much of what's happening..
Good luck on the way though.

MEGAtive wrote: n2a30

Hi
Mod from PM req First STD Mod lel

Rita - Bookmark Memories 1s2t46

[Grimoire]

Mods

1. 00:19:134 - Hmm, add note here? I could hear the hihat just like 00:26:550 (5) . x=352 y=188 are y suggestion so the length between the current notes are still same. fixed
2. 00:21:831 (2,3) - Maybe you could consider on turning these into a slider. Since it's how the vocal works, and looks like you prioritized the vocal above any. So.... yeah, might turn it back to it's original state
3. 00:24:864 (8,9) - Consider to turning these into a slider too. That's how the vocal works here. ed for now
4. 00:47:786 (3) - I don't know, are following the vocalist's breath-taking sound or hihat? It's okay if it's hihat, but since the more clearer sound is the vocalist's breath-taking I suggest to delete this. Since this will be awkward to play IMO. need more opinion about this
5. 00:48:628 (2) - I think just this being normal note is fine. This doesn't represent any vocal to begin with. fixed
6. 00:48:881 (3,1) - Consider on merging these. For the vocal sake. fixed
7. 01:27:224 - Hmm, maybe add a note here. Preferrably on x=200 y=248 (The coordinate where the slider starts). IMO looks prettier. ed
8. 01:32:280 (2) - Suggest to make this into a slider like 01:31:774 (1) , since it got same melody.fixed

I don't know if this helps, feel free to not give a kudosu to me if the mod didn't accepted. Good Luck~

1. I assume the diff is a collab? If so, add collab to tags.

1. 02:28:741 - For nearly two and a half minutes into the map, there is no SB whatsoever. Why? It's strange to see SB effects so late on the map.
2. 02:55:707 - Why use this font in "5eania.png"? It's difficult to read and gives off that cheap Japanese-wannabe-English look. The "mexican.png"(?) font however is much more uniform and readable. To make the SB consistent, I recommend using that font on "5eanina.png" instead.
3. 03:00:089 - I recommend avoiding the BG being completely dark. Instead, the BG should be barely visible. I think it would make the "white-light" effect more striking.
4. 03:00:426 - Why should "5eanina.png" fade out? Keep it visable throughout the kiai time.
5. 03:10:875 - Like I said about the BG completely dark, keep it barely visible instead.
6. 03:11:213 - Again, "5eanina.png" should be kept visible.
7. 03:21:999 - Why this fade-to-black SB is here? It's the only time the SB does that effect. I recommend either removing it to keep the SB consistent or add this effect more on the map.
8. 03:27:392 - Again, why is this SB here? This time, there's a "Sunlight Flare.png" in effect. Like I said above.
9. 04:15:763 - Like I said above, keep the BG barely visible.
10. 04:15:932 - Like I said above, this time "mexican.png" should be kept visible.

1. 00:07:168 (1) - This slider has too many sliderpoints on it. Remove any unnecessary ones.
2. 00:10:538 (9) - Is it me, or I don't here any hitsound from this circle?
3. 00:11:887 (4) - This slider felt off and lazy. I recommend copying the notes from 00:10:875 (1,2,3) instead of a repeating slider.
4. 00:13:235 (1) - Shorten this slider and add more notes to something similar to what I said above.
5. 00:17:280 - From here on out, the map is a messy combination between the vocals and instrumentals. I highly recommend avoiding the vocals and instead map the instrumentals. Vocals are difficult to follow, boring, and it limits mappers to fully interpret the song.
6. 00:17:111 (9,1) - The tiny jump to this slider should be much larger.
7. 00:17:617 (2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
8. 00:21:831 (2) - Should this slider be closer to the one before at 00:21:325 (1) ?
9. 00:27:729 (1) - Why is the slider shaped like that? Clean it up.
10. 00:27:729 (1,1) - Should there be a jump here?
11. 00:31:269 (2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
12. 00:32:617 (5) - ^
13. 00:38:010 (3) - ^
14. 00:41:550 (1) - ^
15. 00:43:572 (2) - ^
16. 00:44:246 (1) - ^
17. 00:46:943 (1) - ^
18. 00:47:786 (3) - Adjust this circle slightly to x:452 y:148
19. 00:49:640 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
20. 00:50:229 (3) - Adjust this circle slightly to x:224 y:264
21. 00:55:033 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.25
22. 01:02:786 (4) - Raise this circle slightly to x:492 y:368
23. 01:03:123 (6) - Reduce sliderpoints.
24. 01:07:168 (1) - Remove this slider and map it out instead.
25. 01:11:213 (4) - Reduce sliderpoints.
26. 01:12:224 (7) - ^
27. 01:12:561 (1) - Should there be a jump here? Also reduce sliderpoints.
28. 01:13:909 (6) - Reduce sliderpoints.
29. 01:14:920 (2) - ^
30. 01:16:606 (7) - ^
31. 01:17:954 (1) - ^
32. 01:18:460 (3) - ^
33. 01:19:302 (1) - ^
34. 01:21:156 (7) - ^
35. (Optional) 01:20:651 (5,6,7) - The (6) circle should be in the middle between the (5) and (7) slider.
36. 01:21:999 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
37. 01:23:347 (1) - I think a spinner is better here instead of a long, awkward slider.
38. 01:27:392 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
39. 01:30:089 (1) - ^
40. 01:30:089 (1,2,3) - ^
41. 01:31:100 (3) - Extend this slider all the way to 01:31:690 , behind 01:31:774 (1)
42. 01:32:786 (1,2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
43. 01:34:134 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.23
44. 01:39:527 (3) - Reduce sliderpoints.
45. 01:44:078 (1) - ^
46. 01:45:257 (1) - ^
47. 01:47:617 (1,2) - ^
48. 01:50:314 (1) - ^
49. 01:50:819 (3) - ^
50. 01:53:010 (1) - ^
51. 01:53:516 (3) - ^
52. 01:55:539 (3,1) - There should be a jump here.
53. 01:58:404 (1,2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
54. 01:59:415 (4,1,2) - ^
55. 02:01:100 (1) - ^ ...I think you know where I'm getting at by now. A lot of sliders are messy and unappealing. Removing unnecessary sliderpoints should clean it up a bit. I won't mention this from now on, but please clean up your sliders.
56. 02:17:617 (2) - Lower this circle to x:360 y:272
57. 02:19:640 (7) - This circle should be farther out from 02:19:302 (6)
58. 02:20:314 (9) - Similar to above ^
59. 02:22:336 (3,1) - A jump here?
60. 02:50:988 (1) - I think a spinner would be better than a ridiculously long slider.
61. 02:56:381 - I think this the best part of the diff. Fun stuff.
62. 03:23:179 (1) - A spinner here instead?
63. 03:28:572 (1) - ^
64. 03:40:875 (1) - ^
65. 03:43:572 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.25
66. 03:48:965 (1) - Map this part out instead of a long slider.
67. 03:54:359 (1) - ^
68. 04:09:696 (1) - A spinner here instead?
69. 04:33:460 - I think the map should end here...
70. 04:52:336 - ...OR here instead. The slow sliders at the end feel unnecessary. At 04:52:336 (1) - a spinner would be better here. And 04:59:331 (1) - the spinner should be removed. I like to think all of this artificially lengthens the map so it can go for Approval instead. This feels dirty to me.

Darcsol wrote: 2r3b4j

Mod request


[General]

1. I assume the diff is a collab? If so, add collab to tags.

[Storyboard]

1. 02:28:741 - For nearly two and a half minutes into the map, there is no SB whatsoever. Why? It's strange to see SB effects so late on the map.
2. 02:55:707 - Why use this font in "5eania.png"? It's difficult to read and gives off that cheap Japanese-wannabe-English look. The "mexican.png"(?) font however is much more uniform and readable. To make the SB consistent, I recommend using that font on "5eanina.png" instead.
3. 03:00:089 - I recommend avoiding the BG being completely dark. Instead, the BG should be barely visible. I think it would make the "white-light" effect more striking.
4. 03:00:426 - Why should "5eanina.png" fade out? Keep it visable throughout the kiai time.
5. 03:10:875 - Like I said about the BG completely dark, keep it barely visible instead.
6. 03:11:213 - Again, "5eanina.png" should be kept visible.
7. 03:21:999 - Why this fade-to-black SB is here? It's the only time the SB does that effect. I recommend either removing it to keep the SB consistent or add this effect more on the map.
8. 03:27:392 - Again, why is this SB here? This time, there's a "Sunlight Flare.png" in effect. Like I said above.
9. 04:15:763 - Like I said above, keep the BG barely visible.
10. 04:15:932 - Like I said above, this time "mexican.png" should be kept visible.

I think consistency is the main problem with the SB. The first half of the map not having any SB is strange; you might as well not have any SB. The awkward font looks off. And some of the effects are unnecessary. I hope you consider my suggestions.


[Grimoire]

1. 00:07:168 (1) - This slider has too many sliderpoints on it. Remove any unnecessary ones.
2. 00:10:538 (9) - Is it me, or I don't here any hitsound from this circle?
3. 00:11:887 (4) - This slider felt off and lazy. I recommend copying the notes from 00:10:875 (1,2,3) instead of a repeating slider. ed for now
4. 00:13:235 (1) - Shorten this slider and add more notes to something similar to what I said above. ed for now
5. 00:17:280 - From here on out, the map is a messy combination between the vocals and instrumentals. I highly recommend avoiding the vocals and instead map the instrumentals. Vocals are difficult to follow, boring, and it limits mappers to fully interpret the song.
6. 00:17:111 (9,1) - The tiny jump to this slider should be much larger. fixed
7. 00:17:617 (2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
8. 00:21:831 (2) - Should this slider be closer to the one before at 00:21:325 (1) ? fixed
9. 00:27:729 (1) - Why is the slider shaped like that? Clean it up.shape fits the sound imo, if more suggest to change it i will
10. 00:27:729 (1,1) - Should there be a jump here? maybe
11. 00:31:269 (2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
12. 00:32:617 (5) - ^
13. 00:38:010 (3) - ^
14. 00:41:550 (1) - ^
15. 00:43:572 (2) - ^
16. 00:44:246 (1) - ^
17. 00:46:943 (1) - ^
18. 00:47:786 (3) - Adjust this circle slightly to x:452 y:148 fixed but not to your exact location
19. 00:49:640 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
20. 00:50:229 (3) - Adjust this circle slightly to x:224 y:264 fixed
21. 00:55:033 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.25 fixed
22. 01:02:786 (4) - Raise this circle slightly to x:492 y:368 fixed
23. 01:03:123 (6) - Reduce sliderpoints.
24. 01:07:168 (1) - Remove this slider and map it out instead. ed
25. 01:11:213 (4) - Reduce sliderpoints.
26. 01:12:224 (7) - ^
27. 01:12:561 (1) - Should there be a jump here? Also reduce sliderpoints.
28. 01:13:909 (6) - Reduce sliderpoints.
29. 01:14:920 (2) - ^
30. 01:16:606 (7) - ^
31. 01:17:954 (1) - ^
32. 01:18:460 (3) - ^
33. 01:19:302 (1) - ^
34. 01:21:156 (7) - ^
35. (Optional) 01:20:651 (5,6,7) - The (6) circle should be in the middle between the (5) and (7) slider. ed
36. 01:21:999 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
37. 01:23:347 (1) - I think a spinner is better here instead of a long, awkward slider. ed
38. 01:27:392 (1) - Reduce sliderpoints.
39. 01:30:089 (1) - ^
40. 01:30:089 (1,2,3) - ^
41. 01:31:100 (3) - Extend this slider all the way to 01:31:690 , behind 01:31:774 (1) need more opinion about this
42. 01:32:786 (1,2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
43. 01:34:134 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.23 reduced
44. 01:39:527 (3) - Reduce sliderpoints.
45. 01:44:078 (1) - ^
46. 01:45:257 (1) - ^
47. 01:47:617 (1,2) - ^
48. 01:50:314 (1) - ^
49. 01:50:819 (3) - ^
50. 01:53:010 (1) - ^
51. 01:53:516 (3) - ^
52. 01:55:539 (3,1) - There should be a jump here. fixed
53. 01:58:404 (1,2) - Reduce sliderpoints.
54. 01:59:415 (4,1,2) - ^
55. 02:01:100 (1) - ^ ...I think you know where I'm getting at by now. A lot of sliders are messy and unappealing. Removing unnecessary sliderpoints should clean it up a bit. I won't mention this from now on, but please clean up your sliders.
56. 02:17:617 (2) - Lower this circle to x:360 y:272 seems really weird
57. 02:19:640 (7) - This circle should be farther out from 02:19:302 (6) why? it would make the spacing uneven
58. 02:20:314 (9) - Similar to above ^ fixed
59. 02:22:336 (3,1) - A jump here? ed for now
60. 02:50:988 (1) - I think a spinner would be better than a ridiculously long slider. ed
61. 02:56:381 - I think this the best part of the diff. Fun stuff.
62. 03:23:179 (1) - A spinner here instead? ed
63. 03:28:572 (1) - ^ ^
64. 03:40:875 (1) - ^ ^
65. 03:43:572 (1) - I think the slider velocity is too fast. Reduce it to x1.25 ed for now
66. 03:48:965 (1) - Map this part out instead of a long slider. ed
67. 03:54:359 (1) - ^ ^
68. 04:09:696 (1) - A spinner here instead? ^
69. 04:33:460 - I think the map should end here...
70. 04:52:336 - ...OR here instead. The slow sliders at the end feel unnecessary. At 04:52:336 (1) - a spinner would be better here. And 04:59:331 (1) - the spinner should be removed. I like to think all of this artificially lengthens the map so it can go for Approval instead. This feels dirty to me.

The main problems I have are the sliders, the vocal-mapping, and the end of the map.

The sliders are very annoying to me. There are a lot of unnecessary sliderpoints that made awkward curves and slopes, making the map look rough. I highly recommend cleaning up those sliders.

I feel like mapping only the vocals is limiting the potential of your map. Consider going over the map and remap the vocals.

I already said my thoughts about the end of the map. It feels like a dirty move to avoid making diffs.

There are other problems with your map, especially with the difficulty. Some parts look very questionable, but I don't have the skills to this diff, making it difficult to evaluate. Hopefully modders can address that.


Good luck

DahplA wrote: 144e

Normal mod as requested.

Grimoire

1. Add combo colors.
2. 01:47:280 (4) - I feel like this would make more sense as a 3/4 for the vocals. ed for now
3. 02:47:448 (2,3) - Likewise, I think if you combined these two into one slider, it would match the vocals better. I feel that 02:47:954 (3,4,1) - is too mashy for some reason, as 02:47:954 (3) - isn't mapped on a vocal line. nice notice, can't believe i haven't see that. fixed!
4. 04:21:662 (1) - This slider doesn't really make sense. You want to emphasise a sound here with the SV increase, but you've lowered the spacing from 04:21:578 (4) - . I'd have the spacing stay consistent with 04:21:325 (1,2,3,4) -
5. 04:32:448 (1,1) - 1.5x and 1.25x. Strange, compared to the 1.5x and 0.5x of 04:21:662 (1,1) - . I think you should keep it consistent by raising the first set from 0.5x to 1.5x. Even if the sounds are slightly different, I just think that the drastic SV change from 1.5x to 0.5x is too much.

That's basically it. I couldn't find much, as you don't often come across these types of maps. While there aren't much errors, I don't necessarily feel this is too polished either.

Good luck.

-Yuzuriha wrote: i6052

from game chat

General

Audio Lead In 2000

http://gyazo.com/0a66939d4fc95a44d984f94eb2ba8674
About the same

Grimoire

00:02:954 (3) - strange . i think normal curve
00:02:449 (1,3) - same

00:20:482 (2) - nazi blanket fixed

00:22:336 (3) - strange , normal curve plz

00:23:853 (5) - NC fixed

00:52:336 (1) - 00:52:168 this start pending

01:13:909 (6,1) - NC swap fixed

03:55:622 (5) - delete pending

-----------------------------------

mod finish

gl

1. 00:04:808: Blanket departs from hitcircle near end.
2. 00:24:359: Blanket does not conform to end of slider.
3. 00:51:662: Blanket is too far away from hitcircle at beginning.
4. 01:04:134: Blanket departs from hitcircle near end.
5. 01:12:561: Blanket #2 departs from hitcircle near end.
6. 02:29:415: Blanket gap seems to narrow as slider goes on.
7. 02:58:572: Blanket is too far away at beginning.
8. 03:02:786: Blanket is completely off.
9. 03:04:808: Blanket is slightly off at beginning.
10. 03:05:145: Blanket (if meant to be a blanket) is completely off.
11. 03:12:561: Blanket is too far away at beginning.
12. 03:26:718: Blanket (if intended) does not conform to 03:25:875 near end.
13. 03:57:729: Blanket could conform a bit more to hitcircle.
14. 04:05:145: Blanket ending is too close to 04:05:061.

1. 00:39:359: Slider angle at beginning is too sharp, does not align with end.
2. 01:03:797: Slider end is almost straight, angle in slider seems a bit sharp.
3. 01:11:718: Slider seems shallow at beginning, angle is not consistent.
4. 01:14:920: Slider is not smooth near end.
5. 01:21:999: Slider is not smooth near middle.
6. 01:27:392: Slider has sharp angle at beginning.
7. 01:38:179: Slider could be smoother at end of wiggle.
8. 01:56:044: Slider curve is not consistent.
9. 02:19:302: Slider angle at beginning seems too sharp.
10. 02:49:640: Slider angle at beginning seems too sharp.
11. 03:20:482: Slider angle at end seems too sharp.
12. 03:39:527: (Slider is fine, but I feel that the curve near the beginning could be a bit more shallow.)
13. 03:43:572: Slider seems too sharp right after wiggle.

Anxient wrote: 6v2g4r

delay2much4m3

00:04:724 (5) - for the starting part i think you should avoid 1/4 beats. just coz its not hype enough.
00:06:999 (3,4) - questionable flow. really odd. fix the entry from 3 to 4. fixed
00:11:887 (4) - imho try something like this. feels better for me idk fixed

a

00:23:684 (4) - i think you should put it higher up, like this? fixed

b

00:24:022 - you didnt map a strong beat, i recommend you to map it. more like just mudge the slider forward, add note and shorten. yatta! i don't understand
00:37:168 (4,5) - try having a back and forth jump. fixed

c

00:39:359 (1) - end and start not round enuf D:
00:41:381 (3,1) - fix entry, same as first mod. i don't understand
00:45:763 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - these jumps feel a bit stale... try doing something else like triangle square mix, but make sure the jumps flow well to enter 00:46:943 (1) - i did something like this idk

d

00:53:684 (1) - a ctrl g would flow much better, recommended fix maybe
00:55:538 (3,4,5,6,7) - woah easy there on the jumps m8. song didnt escalate yet fixed
01:12:224 (8) - idk why my brain told me that ctrl g would be a good idea, but try it. who knows? lol fixed
01:23:347 - add a note here, 01:23:684 - drag slider here. emphasis plz, just cut the tail a bit. will consider

e

01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) - straight slider would work MUCH more better ed for now
01:40:033 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ ^
01:41:381 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ ^
01:48:628 (3) - ctrl g - recommended fixed
01:48:965 (1) - ^ - recommended fixed
01:56:044 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/jmyTx/a6f2739229.jpg plz fixed
02:03:797 (1,2) - place 2 near the slider end of 1 to the momentum, place 02:04:302 (3) - according to circular flow. fixed
02:04:808 (4,5,6) - map not hype enough to use such a huge jump atm :v maybe
02:08:600 (4,5) - a spaced stream would actually be fitting here to the large jumps later on ;v - recommended fixed

try to follow this

02:15:595 (4) - ctrl g fixed
02:16:269 (2,3,4,5) - straight slider? maybe
02:23:348 (4,5,6,7) - song not hype enough for such large jumps atm fixed
02:24:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^, but make it more spaced than the above fixed
02:27:055 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - NOW WERE TALKING
02:29:415 - underwhelming part of the song. i dissapooint D:
02:34:808 (1) - make end slider more round D: idk how
02:39:864 (4,1) - this is good entry, 02:41:213 (3,4) - but this isnt. try to make it similar. fixed
.02:43:572 (2) - ctrl g - recommended awesome,fixed
02:44:246 (3) - ^ - recommended ^
02:50:988 (1) - this is gorgeous
02:57:392 (4,5,1) - ctrl g 5 to make consistent with slider start triangles. also plays better
03:08:347 (2) - おっぱい―　
03:19:640 - ITSUDEMOOOOOO
03:20:314 (3,4) - entry fixed
03:23:179 (1) - blanket slider the loop :L idk how
03:27:898 (3) - ctrl g would make better flow but 03:28:235 (4) - this... remade

this might be pushing it

03:52:336 (6,1,2,3) - lower the DS for this jump. song not strong enough at this part. i hope you know what i mean. fixed
03:55:707 (6) - bad entry. dont slow down the slider when stream is so fast. fixed
04:01:100 (1) - ctrl g maybe? ed for now
04:01:606 (2,3) - place 3 more up to the entry of 3 by the slider end curving upwards from 2 to 3, momentum if you do not understand anything fixed
04:09:527 (2,1) - really really bad entry. momentum breaks and flow is like CRAShokay im dead. im no slider expert, but i know for sure that starting your slider in this shape would be soooo much better. - MUST DO fixed

onegai

04:17:280 (2,3,4,1,2) - this part is abit confusing to explain so lets do this step by step!
1. 04:17:786 (4,1) - hl these two and ctrl g
2. reverse the positions of these two
3. 04:17:786 (4) - lengthen this
4. 04:18:291 (2) - delete this
5. 04:18:460 (1) - place this closer to 04:18:628 (1) - this

bah

04:24:022 (1,2,1) - curve upwards plz
04:29:415 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - a bit questioanable? try going with 1/4 everytime you alternate to the larger spaced stream? if youre confused by this send me forum pm

good luck! that was alot.

PointTaken wrote: fd1z

:? This is a visual mod ( as well as my first). It will only be for sliders and blankets.

[Blankets]

1. 00:04:808: Blanket departs from hitcircle near end.
2. 00:24:359: Blanket does not conform to end of slider.
3. 00:51:662: Blanket is too far away from hitcircle at beginning.
4. 01:04:134: Blanket departs from hitcircle near end.
5. 01:12:561: Blanket #2 departs from hitcircle near end.
6. 02:29:415: Blanket gap seems to narrow as slider goes on.
7. 02:58:572: Blanket is too far away at beginning.
8. 03:02:786: Blanket is completely off.
9. 03:04:808: Blanket is slightly off at beginning.
10. 03:05:145: Blanket (if meant to be a blanket) is completely off.
11. 03:12:561: Blanket is too far away at beginning.
12. 03:26:718: Blanket (if intended) does not conform to 03:25:875 near end.
13. 03:57:729: Blanket could conform a bit more to hitcircle.
14. 04:05:145: Blanket ending is too close to 04:05:061.

[Sliders]

1. 00:39:359: Slider angle at beginning is too sharp, does not align with end.
2. 01:03:797: Slider end is almost straight, angle in slider seems a bit sharp.
3. 01:11:718: Slider seems shallow at beginning, angle is not consistent.
4. 01:14:920: Slider is not smooth near end.
5. 01:21:999: Slider is not smooth near middle.
6. 01:27:392: Slider has sharp angle at beginning.
7. 01:38:179: Slider could be smoother at end of wiggle.
8. 01:56:044: Slider curve is not consistent.
9. 02:19:302: Slider angle at beginning seems too sharp.
10. 02:49:640: Slider angle at beginning seems too sharp.
11. 03:20:482: Slider angle at end seems too sharp.
12. 03:39:527: (Slider is fine, but I feel that the curve near the beginning could be a bit more shallow.)
13. 03:43:572: Slider seems too sharp right after wiggle.

All Fixed! expect for collab part & those i intended

[Closing Statement]

Nice map overall, can't wait to play it and fail once it's ranked. Shot a star.

kunkakunkakunkakunka wrote: 3t2ze

From req.

General

※Tag : Please add it. 「Librarian of Grimoire」(Title)、「Astronauts ALYA」(Production company)、「eroge」
Source → [official site]

Grimoire

00:02:449 (1) - it is add finish to a head. fixed

00:04:808 (6) - I would like the blanket neatly, please. end point x:172 y:172 fixed

00:14:920 (1,2,3,4) - A flow is an acute angle. This can solution by moving 00:15:257 (2) - . How about this? fixed

SPOILER

00:18:460 (1,1) - I felt rhythm oddly. How about this? nice! fixed

SPOILER

00:28:404 (2,3,4) - A little more beautiful placement is desirable. fixed

SPOILER

00:34:640 (6) - NC? fixed

00:41:044 (1) - I think that this NC is not necessary. fixed

00:46:437 (1) - ^ fixed

01:01:774 (1) - I feel NC to be unclear from here. For example, 01:03:123 (6) - NC is necessary according to consistency here. For the same reason, remove the NC 01:03:797 (1) - . Furthermore, 01:04:471 (3) - NC, and 01:05:145 (1) - remove NC. and 01:05:819 (4) - NC.
A consistent flow is kept in this. I think that it is better to add NC at regular intervals. Seemingly, because there is still a lot, please confirm it. fixed

01:11:718 (6) - I would like the stack neatly, please. end point x:164 y:212 fixed

01:53:347 (2) - A flow and overlap are not good. I recommend movement of 01:53:347 (2) - . How about with x:224 y:224 ? fixed

03:59:415 (1) - it is add finish to a head. fixed

04:27:224 (1) - This is not reverse. A player may be confused. I think that you should acquire an angle a little more.

04:44:246 (1) - it is add whistle to a head. fixed

04:52:336 (1) - A spinner is better. and 04:59:331 (1) - Because there is not a sound, it is unnecessary.

GL.

1. 04:11:887 - Kiai Time is toggled on for less than 15 seconds. (check AIMod)

1. e_yuu1402.png

1. ev/5eania.png
2. ev/_________10.png
3. ev/_________16.png
4. ev/e_sub0301.png
5. ev/e_ter0101.png
6. ev/e_yuu0801.png
7. ev/flash.png
8. ev/mexican.png
9. ev/s_yuuc001.png
10. ev/sunlight flare.png
11. ev/white.png

1. 00:10:538 (9,1) - swap NC .. NC start on 00:10:538 (9)
2. 00:14:246 (1) - remove NC here for consistency , add NC on 00:14:583 (5) - and remove NC on 00:14:920 (1)
3. 00:14:246 (2) - add clap here
4. 00:17:617 (2) - 5th point move to 208|312 for better flow
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:19:302 (3) - 236|183 (stack with 00:20:988 (3) - )
6. 00:26:381 (4) - better make same placement like 00:25:370 (1,2) - move this not to 260|200
7. 00:26:718 (1) - 336|80 , straight with 00:26:887 (2) -
8. 00:27:561 (8) - Ctrl+H then rotate 75 degree for better flow
   
   SPOILER

   
9. 00:30:257 (4,5,1) - this placement too close , better move this. Here my recommend 00:30:257 (4) - 396|316 and 00:30:763 (1) - 308|336 (7th point move to 264|160)
   
   SPOILER

   
10. 00:32:111 (1,2) - stack tail.
11. 00:36:156 (1,2) - as you can see here , you give small spacing . But on 00:35:819 (4,1) - you give big spacing , better you make another one same spacing like this. If you keep that , move 00:36:493 (2) - 256|148 same like 00:38:010 (3,4)
12. 00:39:359 (1) - remove NC here , NC start on 00:40:707 (2)
13. 00:49:302 (2) - 288|324 , same spacing on 00:47:448 (2,3)
14. 00:59:752 (3,4) - that's was a big spacing , I can't even tap this. decrease the spacing please .. or you can move 00:59:752 (3) - to 352|319
15. 01:01:437 (7,8,9) - 196|208 stack with 01:00:426 (1) - also move 01:01:269 (6) - 104|368 . If you don't mind , make 01:00:426 (1,2) - same spacing like 01:01:100 (5,6) - I point before ..
16. 01:04:134 (5) - 7th point move to 212|168 nazi blanket
17. 01:05:651 (5) - 296|200?
18. 01:06:156 (2) - better stack on slider tail 01:05:819 (1) - because the spacing too close.
19. 01:19:808 (2) - 296|168?
20. 01:28:572 (1) - remove NC
21. 01:29:078 (1) - 168|328 blanket with 01:28:572 (1)
22. 02:02:111 (6,1) - stack
23. 02:16:943 (2) - 36|52 and 02:19:640 (4) - 460|112 . Same spacing like 02:19:808 (1,2) -
24. 02:24:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - really death spacing , you need decrease the spacing
25. 02:27:055 (1,2,3,4) - ^
26. 02:35:819 (2) - better stack on slider tail 02:34:808 (1)
27. 04:24:696 (1,1) - hmm..

Frey wrote: o5v55

ahh, ppism

• Storyboard 12pj

1. 5eania.png and mexican.png have unnecessary transparency, which could disobey the rules, so here is the cut version: http://puu.sh/jt5aa/ac95878b6c.rar The location of 5eania.png may be changed, so do to check and adjust it. fixed
   
2. and I think your bg pictures for sb are too large (like e_sub0301、s_yuuc001, each pic is about 1mb), can you compress them?

• 1g1z4l

  Grimoire

1. Custom combo color would be better. well, default is good though
   
2. 00:32:111 (1,2) - stack those slider ends? fixed
   
3. 03:33:123 (1) - two inherit points at the same time! delete one please fixed

well, I can't play this map, so I can't give you suggestions about flow or something. I think you need more tests by pro players. Good luck guys.

1. 00:11:044 (2) - try make like This.
2. 00:19:640 (5) - look carefully and maybe here's nazi blanket with 00:19:471 (4) -
3. 00:20:482 (2) - perfect blanket if you do the Slider structured clean
4. 01:29:078 (1) - if you supposed to do blanket, it's not perfect.
5. 01:32:111 (2) - not balanced space between 01:31:774 (1,3) -
6. 02:42:898 (1) - good blanket. So please create the slider clean like this
7. 04:01:606 (2) - ^
8. 04:11:550 (2) - Like this? (nvm about my bad blanket lmao)
9. 04:24:022 (1,2,1) - seems awkward with unbalanced triples even has NC

Sky Trias wrote: 641x36

Hi Slick! o/
As your request for posting mod in thread , sorry late ..
no kds.

[General]

1. 04:11:887 - Kiai Time is toggled on for less than 15 seconds. (check AIMod)

[Storyboard]

Codeless SB Elements

1. e_yuu1402.png

Unused Image Files

1. ev/5eania.png
2. ev/_________10.png
3. ev/_________16.png
4. ev/e_sub0301.png
5. ev/e_ter0101.png
6. ev/e_yuu0801.png
7. ev/flash.png
8. ev/mexican.png
9. ev/s_yuuc001.png
10. ev/sunlight flare.png
11. ev/white.png

[Grimoire]

1. 00:10:538 (9,1) - swap NC .. NC start on 00:10:538 (9) fixed
2. 00:14:246 (1) - remove NC here for consistency , add NC on 00:14:583 (5) - and remove NC on 00:14:920 (1) https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/s/330216
3. 00:14:246 (2) - add clap here but there is no clap in the music
4. 00:17:617 (2) - 5th point move to 208|312 for better flow fixed
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:19:302 (3) - 236|183 (stack with 00:20:988 (3) - ) fixed
6. 00:26:381 (4) - better make same placement like 00:25:370 (1,2) - move this not to 260|200 i don't understand, sorry
7. 00:26:718 (1) - 336|80 , straight with 00:26:887 (2) - fixed
8. 00:27:561 (8) - Ctrl+H then rotate 75 degree for better flow will see about this
   
   SPOILER

   
9. 00:30:257 (4,5,1) - this placement too close , better move this. Here my recommend 00:30:257 (4) - 396|316 and 00:30:763 (1) - 308|336 (7th point move to 264|160) fixed
   
   SPOILER

   
10. 00:32:111 (1,2) - stack tail. fixed
11. 00:36:156 (1,2) - as you can see here , you give small spacing . But on 00:35:819 (4,1) - you give big spacing , better you make another one same spacing like this. If you keep that , move 00:36:493 (2) - 256|148 same like 00:38:010 (3,4) fixed
12. 00:39:359 (1) - remove NC here , NC start on 00:40:707 (2) idk
13. 00:49:302 (2) - 288|324 , same spacing on 00:47:448 (2,3) idk
14. 00:59:752 (3,4) - that's was a big spacing , I can't even tap this. decrease the spacing please .. or you can move 00:59:752 (3) - to 352|319 ed for now
15. 01:01:437 (7,8,9) - 196|208 stack with 01:00:426 (1) - also move 01:01:269 (6) - 104|368 . If you don't mind , make 01:00:426 (1,2) - same spacing like 01:01:100 (5,6) - I point before ..
16. 01:04:134 (5) - 7th point move to 212|168 nazi blanket fixed
17. 01:05:651 (5) - 296|200? ed
18. 01:06:156 (2) - better stack on slider tail 01:05:819 (1) - because the spacing too close. ed
19. 01:19:808 (2) - 296|168? ed
20. 01:28:572 (1) - remove NC thought NC gave a hint slider had big SV change
21. 01:29:078 (1) - 168|328 blanket with 01:28:572 (1) fixed
22. 02:02:111 (6,1) - stack will see about this
23. 02:16:943 (2) - 36|52 and 02:19:640 (4) - 460|112 . Same spacing like 02:19:808 (1,2) - fixed
24. 02:24:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - really death spacing , you need decrease the spacing probably
25. 02:27:055 (1,2,3,4) - ^ i think this is fine
26. 02:35:819 (2) - better stack on slider tail 02:34:808 (1) maybe but will make bad spacing
27. 04:24:696 (1,1) - hmm..

[-AKiTOSHi-] wrote: 15452u

I'm not good at looking expert rated maps but here we go~

1. 00:11:044 (2) - try make like This. fixed
2. 00:19:640 (5) - look carefully and maybe here's nazi blanket with 00:19:471 (4) - fixed
3. 00:20:482 (2) - perfect blanket if you do the Slider structured clean fixed
4. 01:29:078 (1) - if you supposed to do blanket, it's not perfect. fixed
5. 01:32:111 (2) - not balanced space between 01:31:774 (1,3) - fixed
6. 02:42:898 (1) - good blanket. So please create the slider clean like this fixed
7. 04:01:606 (2) - ^ fixed
8. 04:11:550 (2) - Like this? (nvm about my bad blanket lmao) yeah might be good
9. 04:24:022 (1,2,1) - seems awkward with unbalanced triples even has NC

I see nothing with brutal maps ;w;
no kds if it is useless

Sky Trias wrote: 641x36

Hi Slick! o/
[General]

1. 04:11:887 - Kiai Time is toggled on for less than 15 seconds. (check AIMod)

Loughje wrote: 5a4r19

PM request~

Grimoire

00:03:628 (6,3) - Blanket these and see how you like it.
00:05:651 (3,5) - Could make this into a perfect blanket, just a little off. fixed
00:11:887 (1,1) - I know you're trying to match the violin but I think ending the slider where the hitsound is might be a better option, up to you.
00:19:640 (5,1) - Small blanket issue. fixed
00:19:977 (1,2) - ^ fixed
00:26:381 (4) - This seems a bit close to 00:25:875 (3) maybe move it back a bit for a cleaner look. fixed
00:26:887 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These are pretty quiet , think about turning up the volume for these a little bit. fixed
00:36:156 (1,2) - 00:36:156 (1,2) - These are hitting which doesn't look too good in here, maybe blanket instead? fixed
00:40:707 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - More very quiet notes.
01:09:696 (6,3) - Pretty extreme jumps, maybe take them down just a bit.
02:05:482 (2) - Why not blanket this with 02:05:145 (1)
02:11:718 (6) - Really close notes again, think of moving. fixed
03:05:735 (1,2) - ^
03:35:145 (3) - The tail of this is odd being right next to 03:35:482 (1)
03:36:662 (1) - Id curve this up to 03:37:505 (2) For a better flow. fixed
03:48:123 (3) - I think this slider looks odd behind 03:47:617 (1) take a look and see if you know what I mean.
04:00:763 (4,1) - Move 1 back for a cleaner blanket.
04:33:460 - Timing point here and set it to BPM: 89

Not a huge mod, really nice map! Hope this helps and good luck on rankings!

Lasse wrote: 4y3p20

little check from #memehelp

02:11:887 (1) - move the last point a little bit to the right, would look better imo fixed
03:02:448 (4,1) - blanket looks minimally off
03:05:145 (4,2) - stack end of 4 on 2?
03:53:347 (2) - move a little bit up/right so the completed slider lead more to it# fixed
04:06:999 (3) - dangerously close to being offscreen... fixed
04:08:853 (4,1) - blanket the end of 4 with the upper part of 1? might do
04:09:527 (2) - move to around 228/48? fixed
04:12:224 (2) - blanket or stack on sliderend?
04:47:617 (1,2) - blanket in each other fixed
04:51:662 (2) - make this a mirrored version of 1 ?

Honestly, the map seems really well polished and all those mods on it made it really hard to find stuff.
So I've been extremely picky with those
But since it's looks nice I'll leave a star

1. 00:02:449 (1,2,3) - Distance between (2,3) should be higher then (1,2) because the violin (3) is much stronger. Move (2) to 328:64 for example
   
2. 00:04:724 (5) - Why did you map this? It seems overmapped, delete this circle please
3. 00:10:117 (5) - ^^
4. 00:25:370 (1,2) - Overlap is a bit weird. Consider moving (2) to 267:340, looks better, has better flow, and it stacks with an previous object (00:25:033 (5) - )
5. 00:39:359 (1) - Nice slider!
6. 00:54:696 (4) - Consider moving to 211:281 so it stacks with the next object. It looks much better then the current way, due to the weird overlap
7. 01:14:583 (3,4,1) - Don't you think these jumps are a bit overdone? It's only 1/4 distance, and due to the slidertick interfering, you need to hold it to almost the end
8. 01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) - Stream looks a bit messed up, please make it look better
9. 02:13:572 (3,4) - Blanket?
10. 02:27:055 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - As said above, this part is way to hard. Look at the screenshot. This is one of the 2 big peaks. Nerf it a bit (or at least the spaced stream)
11. 02:34:471 (2,1) - Teach me how to make awesome things like this O.o
12. 02:42:224 (2) - The jumps feels out of place. Cltr G this
13. 02:50:988 (1) - Teach me how to make awesome things like this O.o - I LOVE THIS SLIDER
    
    
    [5eania]
    This part misses MANY NCs
    Usually, with dubstep, many NC are there to increase readability. Combos of 1 are really common
    
    1. 02:56:887 (2,3) - NC, either do both or none of them, if you do, NC 02:57:392 (4) - as well
    2. 02:59:078 (2,3) - ^^
       
    3. 03:00:679 (2,3,4,5,6) - NC ALL of these 5
    4. 03:09:864 (2) - NC
    5. 03:11:465 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Nc all 6
    6. 03:13:909 (4) - NC
       03:17:617 (5) - NC
    I love this part
    
    [Grimoire again]
14. 03:23:179 (1) - Nice slider
15. 03:28:572 (1) - ^^
16. 03:52:336 (4,7) - Either stack them or space them, the overlap feels rather awkward
17. 03:56:381 (3,4,1) - Those jumps O.o Please decrease spacing
18. 03:59:415 (5) - Stack to 03:58:909 (2) - , don't forget to move 03:59:752 (1) - as well
19. 04:09:527 (2) - Why not move this to 192:184 for the blanket? Looks better then an overlap
    
    [Midge]
    
    1. 04:13:404 (1) - Consider making it in such way (1)'s end stacks with 04:13:066 (1) -
    2. 04:15:763 (2) - NC for build up for the next part, as it feels quite similar
    3. 04:17:280 (2) - NC for start of stanza
    4. 04:20:314 (2) - Nc, cause it looks better
    5. 04:22:168 (2) - NC for better readability, it really looks like 1/4, and the huge jump before this doesn't make it better
    6. 04:28:067 (2) - NC for stanza
    7. 04:29:415 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Tone down a little please. Many people will break/fail only because of this part
    I also love this part
    
    [Grimoire ptIII]
20. Many slider here are unrankable because of their low volume. Either the sliderbody can be silenced, but then the end/sliderticks must be audible (or in any other way) You can keep it low, but please, something like 15-20 so it at least is audible (players who play this type of hard level usually have silent sldierbody/slidertick, so you can also only silence the end

Baraatje123 wrote: 5b456m

As promised

[Midge]

1. 04:13:404 (1) - Consider making it in such way (1)'s end stacks with 04:13:066 (1) - i like the freehand look. stylized choice, i guess
2. 04:15:763 (2) - NC for build up for the next part, as it feels quite similar swapped 1 and 2 nc
3. 04:17:280 (2) - NC for start of stanza start of stanza is emphasized through the nc on 1. this nc looks cleaner, as 04:16:943 (1,2) - is nc'd in the same way
4. 04:20:314 (2) - Nc, cause it looks better done
5. 04:22:168 (2) - NC for better readability, it really looks like 1/4, and the huge jump before this doesn't make it better done
6. 04:28:067 (2) - NC for stanza same as the reason given before
7. 04:29:415 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Tone down a little please. Many people will break/fail only because of this part lowered ds even more, i guess

I also love this part

Bubble#1'd 574m24

2015-09-01 18:24 Slick: i'll listen it through now with 10% volume music
2015-09-01 18:24 Slick: make sure everything is fine
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: everything seems fine
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: but there is one tricky note
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: can you help me...
2015-09-01 18:30 Baraatje123: which one?
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: 04:09:527 (2) -
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: 04:09:696 (1) - this slider becomes so hard to catch
2015-09-01 18:30 Slick: because of 04:09:527 (2) - position
2015-09-01 18:31 Baraatje123: Try 264:384
2015-09-01 18:32 Slick: i'll do that
2015-09-01 18:32 Slick: do you think od shoud be 8?
2015-09-01 18:33 Baraatje123: It's fine at 8
2015-09-01 18:33 Slick: 04:34:808 - and these sliders
2015-09-01 18:33 Slick: should i raise ticks & end to 10% volume?
2015-09-01 18:33 Slick: i didn't know it was unrankable
2015-09-01 18:34 Baraatje123: I double checked and it seems fine now
2015-09-01 18:34 Slick: okay
2015-09-01 18:36 Slick: updated
2015-09-01 18:39 Baraatje123: A few more things
2015-09-01 18:39 Baraatje123: 00:25:370 (1,2) - Can you please remove the overlap?
2015-09-01 18:39 Baraatje123: As said in the thread, move (2) to 267:340, as the current overlap is incredibly awkward ;w;
2015-09-01 18:40 Slick: yeah done
2015-09-01 18:40 Slick: was that all?
2015-09-01 18:40 Baraatje123: 00:54:696 (4) - Consider moving to 211:281 so it stacks with the next object. It looks much better then the current way, due to the weird overlap
2015-09-01 18:41 Baraatje123: That's all
2015-09-01 18:42 Baraatje123: wait
2015-09-01 18:42 Slick: so it's end stacks with 00:55:033 (1) - ?
2015-09-01 18:43 Baraatje123: Just one more thing
2015-09-01 18:43 Slick: like this? http://puu.sh/jWoCL.jpg
2015-09-01 18:43 Baraatje123: yes
2015-09-01 18:43 Baraatje123: 02:42:224 (2) - Ctrl G this please, it makes more sense
2015-09-01 18:43 Slick: yeah
2015-09-01 18:44 Baraatje123: When you fix it and update I can bubble
2015-09-01 18:46 Slick: updated