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Are we gonna have Round of 16 or go straight to the Quarter-Finals? I think having Round of 16 is fair because kicking out 16 countries out of 24 is too much, you should let 4 countries go to the Round of 16 and kick out 2 countries per group.
Does that mean that person should be in the US team? ;w;Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n
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Oh, we discussed that forth and back and forth and back. One point is that Group Stage is a huge effort, making it a bit of obsolete to host it when we keep majority of the participants.K i u i wrote: 3q3fl
Probably just forgotten to edit the Wiki. Loctav seems unwilling to qualify two thirds of the participants after group stage.
When's the schedule coming up?
On the other hand, we found that it was a bit unfair to only let the top 2 ascend, when we have two top seeded teams in each group. This results in frustration for majority of the participants, as they assume that they know already the ascenders of their group, anyways.
We came to the conclusion to consider the groupstage as true-seeding for the knock-out bracket. Even if majority of the group stage may ascend, the position your own group determines your starting position in the double elimination bracket. A raw-pp seeding is not the way to determine that.
Considering that, it seems also fine to kick 2 players per group and let 4 per group ascend, yet knowing that in the knock-out bracket, we will have a 1v4/2v3 setup, as Tasha suggested last year. So even if it is easy to ascend to the knock-outs per se, your position in the group determines the "supposed difficulty of your first knock out encounter".
Sorry for the huge confusion, I decided to go with doing a Round of 16, not cancelling it. Especially since we have evenly sized groups now (yey, 24 teams!), this is acceptable for me now.
Schedule will be released in a few minutes, I am rechecking all time slots now to avoid double-placements.
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/- Korean Kiwi - wrote: 2q71z
How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
And also the tournament clientDarkStoorM wrote: 375856
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/- Korean Kiwi - wrote: 2q71z
How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
Let me recall that you are still allowed to suggest maps for the mappools. Preferable your own maps.
Maps of all levels are needed for this and future TWCs and are prefered to be ranked (yet, it's not a must). Is your map unique or provides an interesting song? PM me!
Have a little insight of what we got so far:
Maps of all levels are needed for this and future TWCs and are prefered to be ranked (yet, it's not a must). Is your map unique or provides an interesting song? PM me!
Have a little insight of what we got so far:
well played, good luck!Niko-nyan wrote: 6m1841
gg Chile
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/mp/14571285
Just a suggestion for match schedulers, I know this is hard to come up with a proper schedule with so many matches and you did a great job. But next time could you please let a bigger gap between the last match of the night for a team and its first match in the morning ? I mean we finished at midnight yesterday, and we have to play in an hour, which means we have less than 10h gap for sleeping and stuff. I'm awake but I look like a zombie
Luna wrote: 2t573e
This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun
Also, thanks everyone. Group stage was a bit too hard for me, now I can't even imagine the RO16.
But I had fun, that matters the most. Well played everyone, and see you around next week!
This should be the mappool if i did not made any mistakes.
Have fun with it. If there are problems, just report them to me.
Good luck to every participant for the Round of 16! (:
Have fun with it. If there are problems, just report them to me.
Good luck to every participant for the Round of 16! (:
Mappool Group Stage Information b3h3j
The amount of times maps in GS stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.
2 EastNewSound - Lucid Dream (Natteke) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
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27 ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.) (mintong89) [Taiko Oni]
27 Nomizu Iori - Black + White (TV Size) (Makyu) [0gre's Oni]
21 cranky - R176 (taka1235) [Pangko]
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19 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix) (Jerry) [m1ng's Oni]
16 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops (victorica_db) [Kagami's Oni]
15 Basic Element - Touch You Right Now (Kiiwa) [Kana's Taiko Oni]
13 Hige Driver . SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada (qoot8123) [Oni]
11 paraoka feat. yusuke - center piercing (sakuzyo bootleg) (RLC) [714's Taiko Oni]
11 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Love's Inner Oni]
10 kors k feat.Yoshikawa Sunao - 7 Colors (sionKotori) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
10 Hashimoto Miyuki - Yume miru mama ni Koi wo shite (S i R i R u) [31's Taiko]
10 Riryka - Hashiru Sekai to Bokura no Mirai (short version) (Charlotte) [Oni]
10 senya - Yozakura ni Kimi o Kakushite (Dainesl) [Oni]
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9 Ellie Goulding - Burn (Nashmun) [Oni]
9 MuryokuP - Catastrophe (meiikyuu) [Haruka's Oni]
5 Nekomata Master+ - squall (wa_) [TK'S Oni]
5 ave;new feat. Sakura Saori - True My Heart (Suzuka Asahina) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
4 Shihori - Day Breaker (Frostmourne) [Ono's Taiko Oni]
RO 16 Mappool can be found in the wiki!
Tbh I do not understand this request at all.DarkStoorM wrote: 375856
Hmmm... I wonder if there could be some kind of a new category in the mappool like Extra, where you put one custom hard map, and to make it more fair - available only from semi-finals(?)
That probably makes no sense, but... hmmm.
We had that discussion in 2014. Back then I mainly used such maps since I didn't want people to play in their HD/HR confort zone. Those who demand of beeing HD/HR-Master(or even the TWC Masters) shall show it in the TWC by playing these very maps. And to be honest, I still have that opinion. But back then it was seen as too exeggerated and endagered the fun in the tournament, so we had a consens to have for next year (this year; 2015) a mix of low and high bpm maps in HR and HD, so players are able to choose. But it speaks for itself if a team avoids or bans these maps. Not that I want to expose anyone. That's why we will have a mix this year. But at the end, it's an world cup after all. People should show that they are the best. Beside that, it also gives a new tactical aspects which should make the TWC more interesting.AlexGc96 wrote: 3i4z3o
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/86160&m=1
What the f-katsu, man
So yeah, for this year you can be sure that every higher-mappool will have at least one of these special maps in HR and HD. Question is just if I'm going to rise the number of maps which are like that. But in any case, there will be always a normal HD / HR pick. And don't forget that there is the NM bracket, too!
You know, your predictions are surprisingly accurate to the ones I made after brackets were announced, only place we differed was at Japan and Taiwan and Canada beating Hong Kong. I'm still so torn on that match in the grand finals though because both teams are so dang good.mliencheng wrote: 4g2h5m
my prediction from last week
but the result of the match vs. Japan and is quite unpredictable
no offence
i c wut u did der.mliencheng wrote: 4g2h5m
my prediction from last week
but the result of the match vs. Japan and is quite unpredictable
no offence
Umm... Ok so I was looking through the MP for Hong Kong VS United states group stage match and I saw a bit of a problem with the MP link
Some of the players would get FCs but the mp wouldn't show FC and no misses, this could cause a problem where a team could win by the skin of their teeth like Odds&Ends where Hong Kong actually won the map but since the score of 1 note was uncounted US won that map.
aabc271 made this showing that they did actually win the map but MP broke and showed US winning because of the score not counting
It also happened with Burn and R176, it could be a player connection problem because of it happening to shyguy twice but idk.. Maybe this needs to be looked into
Some of the players would get FCs but the mp wouldn't show FC and no misses, this could cause a problem where a team could win by the skin of their teeth like Odds&Ends where Hong Kong actually won the map but since the score of 1 note was uncounted US won that map.
aabc271 made this showing that they did actually win the map but MP broke and showed US winning because of the score not counting
It also happened with Burn and R176, it could be a player connection problem because of it happening to shyguy twice but idk.. Maybe this needs to be looked into
I showed that to Ono and p3n before, but they couldn't do anything because it was already too late when I noticed that like 15 mins after the matchGarpo wrote: 2p5a
Umm... Ok so I was looking through the MP for Hong Kong VS United states group stage match and I saw a bit of a problem with the MP link
Some of the players would get FCs but the mp wouldn't show FC and no misses, this could cause a problem where a team could win by the skin of their teeth like Odds&Ends where Hong Kong actually won the map but since the score of 1 note was uncounted US won that map.
aabc271 made this showing that they did actually win the map but MP broke and showed US winning because of the score not counting
It also happened with Burn and R176, it could be a player connection problem because of it happening to shyguy twice but idk.. Maybe this needs to be looked into
Let's just hope the judges can have some more careful checking before deciding the winning team, especially when the scores are close
unofficially doing this cause I'm bored atm and I was hoping Ono would do this
The amount of times maps in Ro16 stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.
0 Resonecia - Legende (lolcubes) [Legendary Oni]
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7 Hatsune Miku - Unhappy Refrain (NatsumeRin) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
6 Sagara Koikoro - Hoshizora no Ima (kanpakyin) [Climbb's Taiko Inner Oni]
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5 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY (MineC24) [m1ng's Oni]
5 DECO*27 feat. Hatsune Miku - Streaming Heart (Mintong) [Taiko Inner Oni]
3 fripSide - LEVEL5 -judgelight- (Full Ver.) (cyborg) [youngdow&wood's Taiko]
3 Mary - Artificial Rose (Urushi38) [TK'S Oni]
2 Ayane - Acacia no Ki no Shita de (Alace) [Taiko Oni]
2 KIEN - La Grand Bleu (7odoa) [TK]
2 Kurubukko vs yukitani - Minamichita EVOLVED (Cherry Blossom) [Ex's Taiko Oni]
2 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia (JUDYDANNY) [Inner Oni]
2 Memme - Plasma Gun (MMzz) [Inner Oni]
2 Mitsumune Shinkichi - Battle of Rose (haha5957) [31's Taiko]
2 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX (HelloSCV) [714's Oni]
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1 Adraen + Renard - Punk Anthem Track (Aleks719) [Taiko Oni]
1 Chai Found Music Workshop - Zeihen ~transformation~ (xierbaliti) [Taiko Ura Oni]
1 Memme - China Dress (Love) [Inner Oni]
1 Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick (tutuhaha) [qoot8123's Oni]
0 capitaro - Utatabigarasu (NatsumeRin) [Taiko Oni]
iirc Utatabigarasu was banned in like 7 or 8 matches
Mappool Round of 16 Information 5a2q4y
The amount of times maps in Ro16 stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.
0 Resonecia - Legende (lolcubes) [Legendary Oni]
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7 Hatsune Miku - Unhappy Refrain (NatsumeRin) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
6 Sagara Koikoro - Hoshizora no Ima (kanpakyin) [Climbb's Taiko Inner Oni]
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5 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY (MineC24) [m1ng's Oni]
5 DECO*27 feat. Hatsune Miku - Streaming Heart (Mintong) [Taiko Inner Oni]
3 fripSide - LEVEL5 -judgelight- (Full Ver.) (cyborg) [youngdow&wood's Taiko]
3 Mary - Artificial Rose (Urushi38) [TK'S Oni]
2 Ayane - Acacia no Ki no Shita de (Alace) [Taiko Oni]
2 KIEN - La Grand Bleu (7odoa) [TK]
2 Kurubukko vs yukitani - Minamichita EVOLVED (Cherry Blossom) [Ex's Taiko Oni]
2 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia (JUDYDANNY) [Inner Oni]
2 Memme - Plasma Gun (MMzz) [Inner Oni]
2 Mitsumune Shinkichi - Battle of Rose (haha5957) [31's Taiko]
2 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX (HelloSCV) [714's Oni]
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1 Adraen + Renard - Punk Anthem Track (Aleks719) [Taiko Oni]
1 Chai Found Music Workshop - Zeihen ~transformation~ (xierbaliti) [Taiko Ura Oni]
1 Memme - China Dress (Love) [Inner Oni]
1 Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick (tutuhaha) [qoot8123's Oni]
0 capitaro - Utatabigarasu (NatsumeRin) [Taiko Oni]
iirc Utatabigarasu was banned in like 7 or 8 matches
i really don't understand why you picked Ten Sho Sho Ten Sho for Tiebreaker.
did you see too many unsnapped notes?
did you see too many unsnapped notes?
- just check AiMod.
- 03:57:210 (1668) - due to unsnapped note.
- 03:58:493 (1670) -^
- 03:59:163 (1672) - ^
- 04:05:030 (1681) - ^
- 04:54:473 (55) - ^
- 05:21:944 (295) - ^
- and maybe many more.
- 00:51:982 (306) - absolutely wrong when compare to 00:52:276 (307) -
- 05:52:577 (528) - plays really weird because redline is at 05:52:683 -
- 05:55:777 (540) - wrong timing. should be 05:55:820 - or so.
- and many more.
Mapper ranking TWC 2015Nwolf wrote: 2x5s6v
unofficially doing this cause I'm bored atm and
<OnosakiHito> I wanted to make this, too
will edit until done, if data is wrong tell me right away, based my calculations off what i saw in map listings
New faces: 9 (underlined)
Mappers featured this year so far: 41
Total of maps shown: 76 (49 new)
4 (04) — qoot8123, TKS, OnosakiHito, lepidopodus
3 (08) — Nwolf, hs714, mintong89, TW-KUMA01, Alace, MMzz, climbb65588, Mapper 31
2 (07) — Sayaka-, 7odoa, Kagami Yuki, mingmichael, Love, KanaRin, Backfire
1 (22) — 0gre, Charlotte, Dainesl, jericho2442, JUDYDANNY, kjwkjw, Dolphin, Haruka, KayeSara, Naryuga, RockeDon, mekadon, Nashmun, Pheon, woodrockman, youngdow, NatsumeRin, lolcubes, Loctav, Firce777, MoonFragrance, wmfchris
Mappers featured this year so far: 41
Total of maps shown: 76 (49 new)
4 (04) — qoot8123, TKS, OnosakiHito, lepidopodus
3 (08) — Nwolf, hs714, mintong89, TW-KUMA01, Alace, MMzz, climbb65588, Mapper 31
2 (07) — Sayaka-, 7odoa, Kagami Yuki, mingmichael, Love, KanaRin, Backfire
1 (22) — 0gre, Charlotte, Dainesl, jericho2442, JUDYDANNY, kjwkjw, Dolphin, Haruka, KayeSara, Naryuga, RockeDon, mekadon, Nashmun, Pheon, woodrockman, youngdow, NatsumeRin, lolcubes, Loctav, Firce777, MoonFragrance, wmfchris
Maps are supposed to be ready one week before they are picked, it is like using an half-mapped song and saying that you will finish to map it before the macthes lol.OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u
This is already known and will be fixed. Project leader has been ed hours before.
Another potential issue in the mappool :
He is talking about this map from the Hidden picks : https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/316820&m=1
The offset needs to be checked, it sounds like 10 or 20ms too early as DarkStoorm pointed it. Tried it with Hidden and this is a bit uncomfortable to play (pretty hard to get a good accuracy if you focus on the song while playing).