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osu! Taiko World Cup 2015 - Discussion Thread i651n

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lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
ed November 2010
Well, people might be ignoring one simple fact which is that some people, despite their rank, don't enjoy this tournament.
Just because they don't, it doesn't mean other people from the same country are prohibited to as well. :)
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
ed June 2011

lolcubes wrote: 331p4a

SPOILER

;_;

<3 this one so cute

btw please don't blame anyone if you don't like him/her. this event only for fun :)
Pagliaccio
247 posts
ed October 2011
As long as players and stuff think that TWC is "just for fun" event, and force players to it with no reason, it sucks compare to OWC.

Anyways as captain of Ukraine team of previous TWC, after discussion with other active players we decided not to take part this year, the reasons is explained above. Now stop the flame about Ukraine team.

cutecubes <3
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
I don't get that line of logic. OWC is played for fun as well. There are several teams that knowing full well they won't be able to win even if they do make it to the finals let alone semifinals. I'm playing TWC knowing full well it'd be pretty much impossible for team Canada to beat or Japan (assuming they ed now), but I'm still going to play because it lets us see how we stack up against other countries while having fun.

You can still be competitive and have a good time while not expecting to win. Having a mindset that anyone attempting to do this shouldn't be playing would mean tournaments would never exist, because most of us know who the teams are that will win.

Not my goal to flame here but I feel genuinely sorry for your country if you aren't participating just because you won't win. That isn't the spirit of the tournament and you're only making the experience bad for yourself and others from your country who could otherwise enjoy the tournament and have fun.
Arrival
1,418 posts
ed June 2012

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

I don't get that line of logic. OWC is played for fun as well. There are several teams that knowing full well they won't be able to win even if they do make it to the finals let alone semifinals. I'm playing TWC knowing full well it'd be pretty much impossible for team Canada to beat or Japan (assuming they ed now), but I'm still going to play because it lets us see how we stack up against other countries while having fun.

You can still be competitive and have a good time while not expecting to win. Having a mindset that anyone attempting to do this shouldn't be playing would mean tournaments would never exist, because most of us know who the teams are that will win.

Not my goal to flame here but I feel genuinely sorry for your country if you aren't participating just because you won't win. That isn't the spirit of the tournament and you're only making the experience bad for yourself and others from your country who could otherwise enjoy the tournament and have fun.
I already tried to tell him that. But no, looks like I'm just an asshole Kappa
MYRKUL
56 posts
ed February 2010
If they were as many uberpro Taiko players as std we could start to worry about pure competitiveness.
goatlife
59 posts
ed May 2014

Pagliaccio wrote: z5c3d

Shut the fuck up noob and don't say any stupid things more.
bruuhhhhh

Anyways going off on everything in this thread, I would love to play in the TWC but I can't because my countrymen are better than me! At least you have the opportunity to take part in an awesome event that many people are taking the time out of their day to run.

With that logic you're basically saying that African, North American, and Asian countries shouldn't even participate in the actual soccer world cup because they have little to no chance of winning. They play for the experience just as you should. I'm not trying to make you do anything, rather just offer a different perspective on how to look at playing in the TWC.
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Shiki Ichinose
5 posts
ed April 2014
I also signed up at TWC , although I am still not great ability , at least I was able to participate in this tournament .
sorry , if my English language is not good , because I use google translate
Lightning Wyvern
493 posts
ed April 2012

Pagliaccio wrote: z5c3d

If you gonna play TWC "just for fun" - go and play MP then with noobs.
Are you the one that playing for the rank not for the fun ?

just a friendly reminder :
Shiki Ichinose
5 posts
ed April 2014
the reason I signed up at this tournament is I want to get the experience of playing in the tournament . winning or losing is not a problem , but I will try my best .
but the problem is I still have not entered the ed group .
Arrival
1,418 posts
ed June 2012

goatlife wrote: 286230

Arrival wrote: 4l3j3n

Shut the fuck up noob and don't say any stupid things more.
bruuhhhhh
You screwed up your quotes bro, I'm not insulting anybody :(
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009
Man, I when 2 years ago I was like: "Why should I even participate if there are completely no chances for us?". If that's the reason why other countries aren't taking the part in this TWC... that's just sad, as guys explained above.

I know, that for lower ranks getting 'rekt' by Godlike teams wil not be fun at all, but that's not the point. It's not only about playing. Since the matches will be livestreamed (I hope), you can always watch others, even cheer them up and all this stuff. I know you guys also have friends all around osu! and you will be able to watch them struggling in hard matches.

But... not participating because of "having no chances" is really a bad idea. I realized that myself some time ago, even is our country is always knocked out after leaving the group stage. Also, playing in multiplayer with some random people is not even close to being the same as TWC. Of course, you can gather some people and play with them, but still - it's not the same.

From this point, I don't want to insult anybody, but stop crying and get into TWC. Who cares if you lose even on first match.
IMHO, TWC is an event where you can just forget about your rank. Am I just naive too?
goatlife
59 posts
ed May 2014

Arrival wrote: 4l3j3n

You screwed up your quotes bro, I'm not insulting anybody :(
lol woops fixed
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Your fix is even worse than before xD
goatlife
59 posts
ed May 2014

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Your fix is even worse than before xD
HELP ME LMFAO GOD DAMN
Woey
115 posts
ed December 2013
I am in the same boat as goatlife, be grateful you have the chance to compete. I'll be rooting my country on whether I'm on or off the team itself.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
Fix your sig ^

Related news apparently janitoreihil can't play for Canada anymore due to a computer issue. This'll be fun.
Kuro
836 posts
ed July 2012

jdshark wrote: 1v4l2b

I am in the same boat as goatlife, be grateful you have the chance to compete. I'll be rooting my country on whether I'm on or off the team itself.
Sorry, wasn't sure if i could participate but ed right before regs closed. I probably took a position that could have potentially been yours ;_;

Also, i had no idea i even made the team. Didn't realize it till i was told yesterday by someone else on the team... so i should probably start playing again
Minhtam
550 posts
ed September 2014
As much as I too want to play in the TWC as the next guy, I'm glad that the USA got more than 6 registrants. It really shows how serious USA is taking this year's TWC.
PatZar
3,079 posts
ed March 2013

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

Fix your sig ^
lol

also, good luck~
Ajisen_old
Ajisen_old
No thailand team. :(
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
How can you be sure, did you sign up ? Maybe other Thai players also did, you have the capacity to build a team ;)
Reia
122 posts
ed May 2013
Hmmm, this edition will be very interesting, like Japan vs ~
Rori Vidi Veni
175 posts
ed January 2013
rrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy
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Tanaka
66 posts
ed September 2012
Yo make sure to hype Bnyuu about this.
Yuzeyun
7,650 posts
ed September 2010

Microwavex7 wrote: 4w1ka

Hmmm, this edition will be very interesting, like Japan vs ~
IF IT EVER HAPPENS
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
It happens every year, so it'll probably happen again :p
[ Mugino ]
10 posts
ed August 2012
Good Luck to all ;)

See How you do Spain.
LZD
359 posts
ed December 2009
\:D/ spanish
Pochacco
137 posts
ed July 2013
well goodluck :D

and have a nice tournament :D
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
As it stands now, we have 23 ed rosters. Since this is an odd number, we have several way of how to structure the group stage.

Generally, letting 16 teams seems weird due to the low amount of competitiors. As we plan to only let 8 teams ascend to the double elimination stage, we have these options figured:

  1. We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
    Example
  2. We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
    Example
  3. We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
    Example
Let me know what you guys like the most.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Wow, why can't we have a regular 16teams brackets ? As for the three options I have no special preference but whatever you chose make sure you seed the teams before drawing.
Luna
2,354 posts
ed November 2010
The quality of the seeding heavily influences which of these options would be the most fair.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
The only objective seeding would be determined by the average raw pp or average global rank of the entire team. Personally, I planned to seed the teams by the average raw pp.

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Wow, why can't we have a regular 16teams brackets ? As for the three options I have no special preference but whatever you chose make sure you seed the teams before drawing.
Letting 16 of 23 (~70%) teams makes a group stage obsolete, as it serves to "prefilter" before we enter the actual load-heavy double elimination stage.
silmarilen
5,582 posts
ed February 2010
i think the first option would be the best, that way you can still have a chance of getting through the group stage if you have one of the best teams in your group.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Yeah first or second seems better than the third one because best 2nd will depend too much on the actual group
Luna
2,354 posts
ed November 2010
First option looks like the best choice to me
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

The only objective seeding would be determined by the average raw pp or average global rank of the entire team. Personally, I planned to seed the teams by the average raw
Why not based on the three main participant instead ? That mean a team with 3 people ~#200 would be higher seeded than a team with 3players ~#100 and backups ~#500, which seems pretty odd to me
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
There is no such thing as "main participant". The idea or term of "backups" has been abolished 2 years ago. Everyone is an equal member of their team.
Wisakedjak
232 posts
ed September 2010

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

As it stands now, we have 23 ed rosters. Since this is an odd number, we have several way of how to structure the group stage.

Generally, letting 16 teams seems weird due to the low amount of competitiors. As we plan to only let 8 teams ascend to the double elimination stage, we have these options figured:

  1. We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
    Example
  2. We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
    Example
  3. We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
    Example
Let me know what you guys like the most.
I say the third one is the best. So people will have to care about other groups too, not just their one.
Kuro
836 posts
ed July 2012
considering that only 8 teams are ing, I also agree that the first option is best because it provides you with the most chances of getting through group stages... especially if you play against asian teams every time you for a tournament as i have... ;p
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

There is no such thing as "main participant". The idea or term of "backups" has been abolished 2 years ago. Everyone is an equal member of their team.
I know That, but you cannot encourage people to have "backups" in their teams and then penalize them in the seeding system for taking more players than the strict minimum.
Some teams could actually be tempted to take fewer players if it can give them better seeds. (Not talking about our case)
tiamus
272 posts
ed September 2010

XavierJones wrote: 2yx2g

I say the third one is the best. So people will have to care about other groups too, not just their one.
I have to agree with XavierJones.
With this it is more likely to get though the first round, if you had trouble in some matches. It also shows, how the two 2nd places could perform in the following matches, by comparing the matches they've played.
The first one is the middle way, which means it's acceptable, although it means that there are gonna be the risk of setting early winners. But if the matchmaking is based on raw pp it could go well.
With the second option to say is the worst. if it's only with 2 matches this would cause into enourmous pressure on the teams, and that every round literally decides about the end.
If it's with a rematch, it could be better, but still not good enough in comparison with option 1 and 3.
Lunati
148 posts
ed May 2013

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

  1. We form 3 groups á 6 teams and 1 group á 5 teams, whereas the top 2 of every group ascends.
    Example
  2. We form 6 groups á 3 teams and 2 groups á 4 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends.
    Example
  3. We form 5 groups á 4 teams and 1 group á 3 teams, whereas the top 1 ascends + the best 2 2nd places across all groups.
    Example
Let me know what you guys like the most.
First one is the best

For the third one, if you have 2 big power house in the same group, one of them will be kicked easily, which makes the game less interesting

Second one is wrong. 6x3 +2x4 = 18+8 = 26 . Please work on your maths.


My own suggestion is

5 x 3 , 2 x 4 a total of 7 group

which 7 1st will promote, and the 2nd from the 2 groups of 4 will have an extra match which complete the last slot

The pros of this is letting the 2 groups of 4 , which should be harder to get the 1st, have a chance to come back
Backfire
3,207 posts
ed February 2010
"Due to the massive new registrations, the rosters will be redecided by many captains. Please wait until the 23rd February 2015 to check out the new finalized rosters" It is now the 24th. Do you guys need help?
Kuro
836 posts
ed July 2012
i was about to ask the same thing
Woey
115 posts
ed December 2013
I assume the tournament being 3v3 vs. 4v4 has not been confirmed yet?
Minhtam
550 posts
ed September 2014
Uh, is there a country with only 2 registrants? Perhaps you can encourage that country to find a third qualified participant to even out the number of represented teams to 24.
1794766
93 posts
ed July 2012
First option ftw. More games for every team, makes it more fun. I think most participants would love to play as many countries, too.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Any news ?
Lunati
148 posts
ed May 2013

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Any news ?

Suddenly dead?

BTW i Loctav did said he doesn't have a good network, does he got one now?
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

As by today, we extend the registration phase till 22nd February 2015, 23:59:59 UTC+0.
So, the registration phase was till 22nd, it means the team drawing will begin this weekend? At least I understand it that way (28th? 1st of March?)
...or was it two weeks after the registration phase... waiting for news as well :D

Oh BTW, am I the only one who wants to see THIS as a Tiebreaker in finals? or just as a tiebreaker
no kill pls
Nwolf
2,608 posts
ed September 2012
/me kill DarkStoorM


srsly tho Octagon is too long and too... weird to be a fitting tiebreaker. And too easy for finals
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
Drawings are tomorrow 14 UTC+0

Aaand we have 24 teams. (yey Denmark). All teams are on the wiki.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
No seeds then ?
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
Oh yeh, we do seed.
nakanotsu nimi
88 posts
ed November 2012
chile noob represent XD, i feel excited yay! just gotta train hard :3
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,856 posts
ed March 2010


Came forward with the map listening and playing.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011


?
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
ed June 2011
Are we gonna have Round of 16 or go straight to the Quarter-Finals? I think having Round of 16 is fair because kicking out 16 countries out of 24 is too much, you should let 4 countries go to the Round of 16 and kick out 2 countries per group.

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n



?
Does that mean that person should be in the US team? ;w;
mliencheng
460 posts
ed November 2010

- Korean Kiwi - wrote: 2q71z

Does that mean that person should be in the US team? ;w;
nah impossible

if he enters US team, i'll be entering Turkish team :lol:
Mama Marcy
3 posts
ed October 2013
really do hope I can get in, be my first year playing in the tournement ^W^
shARPII
osu! Alumni
926 posts
ed April 2011
Good luck everyone o/
Yamu-
22 posts
ed January 2013
Someone wants to make a beatmap pack with mappool maps? ><
MYRKUL
56 posts
ed February 2010

-Jamu- wrote: 6i5bg

Someone wants to make a beatmap pack with mappool maps? ><
Please.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
Map Pack for Group Stage

Cause Tournament Management is slow :P
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
ed June 2011
ty so much Tasha :)
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
So is there going to be a RO16 or is it being made RO8? Seems odd we'd eliminate 16 of the 24 teams before brackets even start. The wiki also still mentions RO16 so I'm getting mixed information here.
1794766
93 posts
ed July 2012
Probably just forgotten to edit the Wiki. Loctav seems unwilling to qualify two thirds of the participants after group stage.

When's the schedule coming up?
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter

K i u i wrote: 3q3fl

Probably just forgotten to edit the Wiki. Loctav seems unwilling to qualify two thirds of the participants after group stage.

When's the schedule coming up?
Oh, we discussed that forth and back and forth and back. One point is that Group Stage is a huge effort, making it a bit of obsolete to host it when we keep majority of the participants.
On the other hand, we found that it was a bit unfair to only let the top 2 ascend, when we have two top seeded teams in each group. This results in frustration for majority of the participants, as they assume that they know already the ascenders of their group, anyways.

We came to the conclusion to consider the groupstage as true-seeding for the knock-out bracket. Even if majority of the group stage may ascend, the position your own group determines your starting position in the double elimination bracket. A raw-pp seeding is not the way to determine that.
Considering that, it seems also fine to kick 2 players per group and let 4 per group ascend, yet knowing that in the knock-out bracket, we will have a 1v4/2v3 setup, as Tasha suggested last year. So even if it is easy to ascend to the knock-outs per se, your position in the group determines the "supposed difficulty of your first knock out encounter".

Sorry for the huge confusion, I decided to go with doing a Round of 16, not cancelling it. Especially since we have evenly sized groups now (yey, 24 teams!), this is acceptable for me now.

Schedule will be released in a few minutes, I am rechecking all time slots now to avoid double-placements.
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
That was a pleasant surprise. Glad that RO16 is still on! Also using group stage as a prelim seeding is a great idea. Still not too fond of group stage with elimination, but I'll compensate for double elim + seeded brackets. :)
Kuro
836 posts
ed July 2012
/me sees "ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.)" in freemod bracket

/me dies because no DT... T_T

rip kuro
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
ed June 2011
How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009

- Korean Kiwi - wrote: 2q71z

How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
- Marco -
7,607 posts
ed December 2011

DarkStoorM wrote: 375856

- Korean Kiwi - wrote: 2q71z

How do you stream the tournaments? What programme do you use?
I believe it's Open Broadcaster Software from obsproject.com/
It's free, open source and completely awesome.
And also the tournament client ;)
Thelma
1,264 posts
ed October 2011

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

/me sees "ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.)" in freemod bracket

/me dies because no DT... T_T

rip kuro
gimme your id and i will play it for you


jk
brunn08
147 posts
ed September 2013

marcostudios wrote: 5c4z8

And also the tournament client ;)
Where can I Tournament client?
- Marco -
7,607 posts
ed December 2011

brunn08 wrote: 5t6r1v

marcostudios wrote: 5c4z8

And also the tournament client ;)
Where can I Tournament client?
It's not pubblic :(
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,856 posts
ed March 2010
Let me recall that you are still allowed to suggest maps for the mappools. Preferable your own maps.
Maps of all levels are needed for this and future TWCs and are prefered to be ranked (yet, it's not a must). Is your map unique or provides an interesting song? PM me!

Have a little insight of what we got so far:

Luna
2,354 posts
ed November 2010
gg wp China

/E: Also gg wp to Norway and Denmark, was fun =)
1794766
93 posts
ed July 2012
WP Ukraine and today. Looking forward to our matches tomorrow, Denmark, Poland, China.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
gg Italy, gg Canada ! It was closer than what the score shows and we had a lot of fun playing with you guys :D
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
ed June 2011
gg Chile
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/mp/14571285
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
Good games to everyone! (Especially . Always a pleasure playing with you guys)

Hope to see you in the RO16!
nakanotsu nimi
88 posts
ed November 2012

Niko-nyan wrote: 6m1841

gg Chile
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/mp/14571285
well played, good luck!
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Just a suggestion for match schedulers, I know this is hard to come up with a proper schedule with so many matches and you did a great job. But next time could you please let a bigger gap between the last match of the night for a team and its first match in the morning ? I mean we finished at midnight yesterday, and we have to play in an hour, which means we have less than 10h gap for sleeping and stuff. I'm awake but I look like a zombie
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009
An after party with
tiamus
272 posts
ed September 2010
Hell yeah!
I'll pay! But I'd like milk
Luna
2,354 posts
ed November 2010
This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun
Akiyama Mizuki
2,710 posts
ed March 2009
lol.
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009

Luna wrote: 2t573e

This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun
uguu~

Also, thanks everyone. Group stage was a bit too hard for me, now I can't even imagine the RO16.
But I had fun, that matters the most. Well played everyone, and see you around next week!
Nwolf
2,608 posts
ed September 2012
Ro16 map pool looks so good


can I marry it
[TaikoTori]
147 posts
ed September 2011
This should be the mappool if i did not made any mistakes.
Have fun with it. If there are problems, just report them to me.

Good luck to every participant for the Round of 16! (:
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,856 posts
ed March 2010

Mappool Group Stage Information b3h3j


The amount of times maps in GS stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.

2 EastNewSound - Lucid Dream (Natteke) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
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27 ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.) (mintong89) [Taiko Oni]
27 Nomizu Iori - Black + White (TV Size) (Makyu) [0gre's Oni]
21 cranky - R176 (taka1235) [Pangko]
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19 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix) (Jerry) [m1ng's Oni]
16 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops (victorica_db) [Kagami's Oni]
15 Basic Element - Touch You Right Now (Kiiwa) [Kana's Taiko Oni]
13 Hige Driver . SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada (qoot8123) [Oni]
11 paraoka feat. yusuke - center piercing (sakuzyo bootleg) (RLC) [714's Taiko Oni]
11 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Love's Inner Oni]
10 kors k feat.Yoshikawa Sunao - 7 Colors (sionKotori) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
10 Hashimoto Miyuki - Yume miru mama ni Koi wo shite (S i R i R u) [31's Taiko]
10 Riryka - Hashiru Sekai to Bokura no Mirai (short version) (Charlotte) [Oni]
10 senya - Yozakura ni Kimi o Kakushite (Dainesl) [Oni]
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9 Ellie Goulding - Burn (Nashmun) [Oni]
9 MuryokuP - Catastrophe (meiikyuu) [Haruka's Oni]
5 Nekomata Master+ - squall (wa_) [TK'S Oni]
5 ave;new feat. Sakura Saori - True My Heart (Suzuka Asahina) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
4 Shihori - Day Breaker (Frostmourne) [Ono's Taiko Oni]

RO 16 Mappool can be found in the wiki!
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
Mappool and Schedule are on the wiki now! Mappack will be added (as soon as Marcin is done with bathing his astral body). Match results have been added. Link to Group Statistics has been added under LINKS section.
Nashmun
1,593 posts
ed November 2008
Well, hello Poland.

Can we have the full bracket though ?
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Topic Starter
Bracket is in the makings.
DarkStoorM
451 posts
ed October 2009
Dear ,

I'm not prepared, please be gentle.
Marcin
osu! Alumni
4,944 posts
ed March 2011
Dear timezones / earth

I wish earth was flat, and sun would evenly shine onto every place on earth at the same time,

Best regards,
everyone.
Nwolf
2,608 posts
ed September 2012
will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
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