There has been some requests on when the next osu! beatmapping contest will be, so without further ado, here is #4!
This one has a couple new things changed from the previous contest, including the song selection to fit a larger audience of mappers to participate, so the team looks forward to seeing spectacular results!

Submission Deadline: 2013, 1st July, 00:00 GMT+0


If you have any questions regarding this contest, feel free to ztrot or Loctav.

Good luck to all participants! I am looking forward to the results to this ~

Good luck to everyone!

Crank out some really epic maps for everyone to enjoy!

I wish the best of luck to anyone participating!

yay! Good luck everyone

Ok. Ok. Thanks for the wishing of luck to me. I won't let you down ok ok.

I look foward to seeing what everyone can come up with. Give it all you have!

Good luck guys ^^

:-) yay

finally!

I wish all participants the best of luck.

Good luck everyone!
I will be looking forward to many different mapping styles!

goodluck for those who participate :3

Interesting. =w=

O.k Good Luck ><

hmm

Yesterday I was like, "Are they ever going to do another beatmapping contest? D:"

This timing is so awesome.

EDIT: ...Is Rooftop Run really 4:38? Why no cut?

Nice :3
Goodluck to all

For the rankability of the easiest difficulty in this contest will 3.24 or 3.00 be used?

fuked up timing on fuzz

Good luck to all participants

I will try ^^. A new new new mapper. I want to it

Oyatsu wrote: 333v4b

I will try ^^. A new new new mapper. I want to it

I'm a new mapper too. Let's do this!

nouk wrote: 6b724q

hmm

goodluck for everyone who will participate, can't wait to try various style from various mappers ^^

ohhey i haven't done one of these since the f...irst? time to win 8)

For the time being till we can change the contest osz feel free to change the timing on fuss fuzz to 190 bpm 1,650 offset
Really sorry about this guys

Look's prety intresting... huh

Oh I want to try maybe >w<

Cool beans
I wonder who will go for the first song though because... 4:38

Good luck ^.^

Definitely gonna give a try. I've been waiting so long for that contest .

Goodluck to all mappers! Show us everything you have

Elite Mapper 2013

Good Luck!

awesome

Good luck to all mappers. (maybe include me, because i might be here, not sure yet)

Goodluck~

Very surprised to see the HotD song in there! If only I had the time to map lately... The rules describe exactly the type of maps I always make, three diffs. with no special types for Taiko or CtB or Mania. Plus, the one song I recognize is nice and short. Shame the timing isn't up to snuff right now. That furthers makes me think I shouldn't try to this. xD But good luck to the other participants! Can't wait to see what these judges consider as good maps... Heh! No pressure. B)

Ahh~

Good luck to all ^^

Damn, this is so cool, but why even participate now. There'll be half a billion mapsets to these songs in just a few days, so it's not use starting now. =_=

Good luck to you all beatmapping participants out there! Ganbatte(Do your best)!

*orgasm*

sadly, no interest in mapping these songs, so i'll . but good luck to all who enter

Quiz-chan wrote: 1n1k21

Damn, this is so cool, but why even participate now. There'll be half a billion mapsets to these songs in just a few days, so it's not use starting now. =_=

Don't worry. Mapsets which aren't fitting in criteria will be ignored.

:) Good Luck On Editing Beatmap Who Participate

I can't wait to see how this plays out!

Good luck for everyone who enter.

Interesting o3o waaaah

Let's give it a try

Good luck to everyone! :3

2 min anime map + 2 long non-anime maps

inb4 100+ entries for anime and 2 entries for the others

entering for Infected Mushroom one, btw

Isn't the Sonic track a bit long? It's awfully repetitious as well. All of these songs almost make me want to have a shot at this, but I'll probably become unhealthily stressed. Really not sure if I want that.

Oh no

My slot :<

If team aren't judges, can they participate?

Yes

Everone if free to partecipate, if they don't judge.

SWEET

Why do I get the feeling that despite Fuss Fuzz's default snap divisor being 1/3 we'll get some entrants shoving 1/4 streams in there anyways? >_>

not the best choice for videogame song

Ekaru wrote: 6p6d6v

Why do I get the feeling that despite Fuss Fuzz's default snap divisor being 1/3 we'll get some entrants shoving 1/4 streams in there anyways? >_>

This would reduce the work for the judges

Anyway, I think this contest is a great opportunity for many people who haven't tried mapping 1/3-songs yet.

Song 2 is sooooooo good.

Let's see what good works we'll get.

Do these need to be hitsounded? (question for ztrot / Loctav)

I'm ing as the Newbie Beatmapper of the Contest... I'll do my first serious Standard Beatmap for this... Good luck to all!!~

I'm impressed!

Charles445 wrote: 252k60

SWEET

I already lost with that...

Charles445 wrote: 252k60

Do these need to be hitsounded? (question for ztrot / Loctav)

yes

I guess I'll try it this time

Concerns From the Community and Me

ztrot wrote: 1s6e

Song 1: Rooftop Run (Classic)
and enter here!
Artist: Tomoya Ohtani
Source: Sonic Generations
Length: 4:38, 152 BPM*
Theme: Videogame (Instrumental)

Youtube Preview

Rooftop Run is from a game called Sonic Generations. Now as most of you know Sonic uses songs that are meant to be a tad bit repetitive so they can repeat sections and have it still work. This does not work when in a mapping competition for a song. Repetitiveness is something that isn't liked by every mapper. So it would be a very biased vote. It's already a known fact that anyone who does "Rooftop Run" will not win this competition.




As you can see, even the judges agree with this.
"Rooftop Run" is the longest song in this whole collection we have to choose from and its the most repetitive.
It should be cut like all the other songs.

ztrot wrote: 1s6e

Song 2: Pink Nightmares
and enter here!
Artist: Infected Mushroom
Source:
Length: 3:20, 144.99 BPM*
Theme: Electronic (English)

Youtube Preview (Contest mp3 is shortened)

"Pink Nightmares", is a song by Infected Mushrrom and when listening to the full song and this cut version, you will realize that whoever shortened this clip, cut out the least mappable and worst parts of the song.
Link to Full Song here.

In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Maddy agrees.

Maddy agrees again.


I expect this to be changed. (And that shitty fade out.)

ztrot wrote: 1s6e

Song 3: Fuss Fuzz
and enter here!
Artist: Kurosaki Maon
Source: Highschool of The Dead
Length: 2:00, 190 BPM*
Theme: Anime (Japanese)

Youtube Preview (Contest mp3 is shortened)[/list]

"Fuss Fuzz" is also a very repetitive song but the vocals save it. Have fun mapping on vocals for a 2 minute anime song that was apparently shortened. Pick a better song. It was timed wrong originally too. This has been brought up.




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So in all honesty:


Based on the posts of this thread and the people I have spoken to. All of them have agreed. Out of the judges I spoke to. All agreed. that's 2/4 judges though. Couldn't the rest. Maddy a well known mapper and an amazing one at the also agrees. D33d an avid modder and speaker in #modhelp agrees.

It feels like this competition was made just to be difficult to the mappers and stressful. "See who can make the better shit."

Please take this all into consideration. Goodbye. Thanks to all for the .

pls im not anarchistk

Its all Maddys fault


On topic though some suggestions:

Nice having three categories, but what about a vote with 5 songs from each category to let the community decide what to map?

With all the drama about timing, what about letting the mappers time the songs? Feels like an "Elite Mapper" should at least be able to time the song. Unless you pick some Roze-level track.

I haven't thought about all the stuff that got mentioned, but as I see it I can pretty much agree. I first started to map the Infected Mushroom song, but I stopped it pretty early already because it would even take me too much time to map the part as it's hard too map.

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

I did start...

Hey, I already finished a diff on Pink Nightmares :<

Eitherhow, yeah the BPM looks a bit weird and the Sonic song may be cut because of the repetativeness (if there's a good point to do that) but w/e, 2ct right here o:

Aside from Rooftop Run having too many loops I love these picks to death.

And BTW, people who map Rooftop Run will only be competing against other Rooftop Run maps.

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

Wow, you barely read his complaint and is already saying unnecessary things that don't add to the thread. What a mess.

Well, now doing something actually useful:
I agree with TGOC's complaint on Sonic Generations. The song is a bit repetitive and really doesn't work for a contest (unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song, which... imo, isn't a good idea).
I also seriously don't like that 3rd song as it has an EXTREMELY repetitive beat, forcing people to map to the vocals, thus excluding any variation you could get.

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 27j4j

In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Yeah but if you actually listen to it or play it you can tell that 145 BPM isn't proper. It's theoretical versus reality.

There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15



This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue

I'll try my luck at Rooftop Run. I like the track and it isn't as repetitive as everyone's saying, just involves more creativity It's pretty much the "Marathon" category of this contest, as it's going to be hard to get 3 diffs done by the deadline.

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 27j4j

Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.

Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.

ztrot, you're using Rooftop Run (Classic) and it's not the Slam Jam version? Shoot, I already have 3.25 maps of that track done

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

Jarby wrote: 551y2t

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 27j4j

Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.

Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.

Didn't spot this when reading that post, but this is correct. IIRC even the Pokemon devs sometimes use some really... weird... timings.

OMG! I just fell in love with Pink Nightmares!

One part of me says "enter that contest and map Pink Nightmares" and the rest no... :l

tieff wrote: 38g3w

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

bmin11 wrote: v

tieff wrote: 38g3w

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

[insert something here along the lines of "a good mapper should have the ability to map any song blah blah"]

A good mapper should have the ability to map any song, but why should he map something he don't like and won't enjoy mapping?

Then don't ? I don't see the problem here. This is a free contest, which means anyone's free to enter - or not to enter. I have the feeling you're just here to complain about the songs. A bit more detailed about what's wrong with these songs apart from personal taste would be welcome.

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

I would like to try, but the army does not allow for a year, damn ....

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Blue Dragon wrote: 42171m

unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song

I have the latter feeling.

I have double-checked timing and while it is not what I would have used, is amply accurate (within 3ms throughout the song).