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Spinner isn't all that great, to be honest... I don't like it and it confuses me greatly while playing.

I'm bothered that the new update has broke quite some things, aside from that and the spinner, it's just okay.
like it :3
its more looks like 'touch' screen,not really usual with it on 1st time since it really like 'i'm touching the circle by my own finger'. more to ultrabook style

theowest wrote: 4f5b4v

Cobra wrote: 2h4n3o

heyheyheyheyheyheyeheyeheey
make the slider ball the same-ish sort of color as the combo color it's on
boom
or its complementary/inverted colour. that would be pretty amazing. Like how the repeat arrow gets black when it's a whiter combo colour and vice versa.
yeah maybe. i think the slider ball being the same color as the combo is a good idea though. the blue slider ball looks terrible on some colors, so why not make it look nice on all colors

Verlaren wrote: 4jp1f

So - I think that the new game skin quite well, although it needs further development.
  1. It would be better if the added option to switch a new skin to the previous in general.
  2. The same would probably be better if the game mode selection button would be the same size as the others. (http://puu.sh/2kG4W)
  3. I believe that the need to reduce the size of icons and text contents of the new button in the drop-down menu so that the right border of the menu were is flush with the right edge of the button "selection options" (http://puu.sh/2kG8h)
  4. Also - white arrow sometimes merges with the background slider. Thus it is likely that the player will not notice it. (http://puu.sh/2kGbe)
  5. In some places, sometimes there are black instead of white arrows.
  6. http://puu.sh/2kGdj - surprised that has changed the button location "back"
many of these point have already been mentioned in the tech forum, please check that and maybe you can contribute to this topic: t/123432/
so we have one general "complaint/error" topic about this recent update.

KRZY wrote: 552a2c

Took a little bit getting used to, but this is a huge improvement. Great job to everyone who worked on this!

  1. I was concerned about how hitbursts seemed to linger a bit before disappearing(and misses seemed to drop off the screen instead of just disappearing) compared to the old skin, but it didn't affect my gameplay as much as I thought it would and was able to get used to it pretty quickly. Can't say the same about other players, though.
  2. My playstyle makes me somewhat immune to the reversearrow change, but I've heard from a lot of players around me that it is very difficult to see them when the sliders are of bright colors but not so bright as to make the reversearrow become black. I see this has already been mentioned, and guess people are already working on it.
  3. This has also been mentioned by either kriers or CXu already(I forgot), but it might be a better idea to move the game mode selection button to the far right instead of the far left since players are used to selecting mods for maps when they hit the far left button. Trivial issue though.
  4. On the results screen, how about having three buttons(retry, watch replay, back to song selection) instead of just two(retry, watch replay)? I've found myself automatically clicking on the 'watch replay' button when what I wanted to do was to exit to the song select screen, guess one can get used to it too but it might be a nice idea to be able to exit to song screen menu not only by clicking esc but also by clicking a button.
  5. I love the font!!!
same to you I guess.
This goes for everyone making points about this update, check the tech forum first and consider cleaning/suggesting things to CXu's topic.
Really digging the new style; very clean and modern.

I can understand why some of the more pro players might take issue with stuff like the falling miss indicators or the new spinners, but as a filthy casual I really like 'em. Maybe some toggles for that stuff down the line might make everyone happy?

Anyway, great job!
The new skin is awesome >w< but the spinner...

peppy wrote: 73101g

Love wrote: y1x6s

The old skin can be ed with the updater, just get the template. As for the new UI/Skin: The 'Mode' button has rough edges.
Can't tell if it's just me though.
This will happen at "in-between" resolutions like 1680x1050, where high res sprites are being used but scaled too much. I'll look into fixing this by using lower resolution ones in these cases where possible.
This happens on 1920x1080 as well. It's noticeable with the Mode icon, the ranking letters on the top during breaks while playing, and on the circles in the editor timeline. Not sure I've noticed it anywhere else.
hmm, is this me, or the playspeed seems get little got a lag for a while, and it makes more hard to smoothly moving?
It's Window 8-liked.
my goodness such a beautiful skin :) thanks peppy
I think the new skin is pretty good (especially the 2 elements)

1 element: spinner is not really good tho, its just... (I cant describe it using words)
Wow. Luv the new display.
I really like this update initially, but I also feel like the new skin doesn't have much performance . I also had trouble with the reverse arrows and the game feels different to me but I think that's because it's running better now. To me it feels smoother. The spinner I can go either way but I'm not sure it blends with the theme, I really like the dot in the center of the map length indicator and it got me thinking, maybe the spinner could have a clock hand to spin and the meter fills the circle?

HD is also really nice and even though the game plays differently for me now I'll get used to it for this, thanks a lot.
Can someone tell me where I can find the new default skin? It's not in the skins folder D:

dMaxb wrote: 2u665k

Can someone tell me where I can find the new default skin? It's not in the skins folder D:
unreleased at the moment. keep an eye on the skinning forum. 15
primrose
The spinner is really annoying. I'm getting used to the skin but not the spinner!
Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Few little issues I had with the skin:

1) The miss graphic will start to fall after a while. If we could disable this for custom skins, it would work to make things more uniform with the hitbursts. It happens on taiko too.
2) The "Return to Menu" option in the results screen was moved to the back button on the other side of the screen. This is mostly muscle memory causing me the issues, but putting something back there would be kind of nice.
3) The SS icons don't look very good. You can't really tell what it is from just the letter.
4) The UI change happened halfway through me making a skin, so now I'm waiting for the new template skin and the taiko elements. .3.
link new default skin.?
I need examples for making such a great skin .. :3
The only thing I like from the new skin is 300's, 100's and 50's. I don't like the new default spin :<
I like the new skin. but is there a shortcut key to the mode button and its contents?

Frosthart wrote: 313e2k

I like the new skin. but is there a shortcut key to the mode button and its contents?
t/123346 requested all ready :)
This new update make "osu!" crash a lot, my PC crash a lot after the update too and it got a lot of bugs need to be updateed

deadbeat wrote: 3l3a6y

Frosthart wrote: 313e2k

I like the new skin. but is there a shortcut key to the mode button and its contents?
t/123346 requested all ready :)
ok tnx for the info.

Joki Sarap wrote: 65646t

link new default skin.?
I need examples for making such a great skin .. :3

peppy wrote: 73101g

I will make the new skin available for use as a template in the near future. Keep a watch on the skinning forum.
p/2185564

Mithost wrote: 1b5up

Few little issues I had with the skin:

1) The miss graphic will start to fall after a while. If we could disable this for custom skins, it would work to make things more uniform with the hitbursts. It happens on taiko too.
2) The "Return to Menu" option in the results screen was moved to the back button on the other side of the screen. This is mostly muscle memory causing me the issues, but putting something back there would be kind of nice.
3) The SS icons don't look very good. You can't really tell what it is from just the letter.
Pretty much all mentioned in this list t/123432/
Was a config option added to force the HD sprites on/off?
I really like the skin ^.=.^ The only thing that really bothers me is the spinner because it overrides the old spinners which were sometimes really beautiful ._.
I want old spin and icon of S and SS. New is ugly ;<
I'm sure this was posted somewhere but what's the difference between black and white colored sliders? I was playing yesterday and didn't see any black ones. Today's update seemed to introduce them.

Saph1 wrote: a4j28

I'm sure this was posted somewhere but what's the difference between black and white colored sliders? I was playing yesterday and didn't see any black ones. Today's update seemed to introduce them.
white and black slider repeats. They are black when the combo colours are of a lighter colour and white when they are dark.
i Like the new skin for osu too
I forgot to say this earlier, but I really love the new spinner.
agree,latest build of osu crashes all the time,hoping for hotfix .

p000p wrote: 4p1t1s

agree,latest build of osu crashes all the time,hoping for hotfix .
make a post in the tech forum describing your problem 5

theowest wrote: 4f5b4v

p000p wrote: 4p1t1s

agree,latest build of osu crashes all the time,hoping for hotfix .
make a post in the tech forum describing your problem 5
u see my problem is that osu crashes.
And it happened right after update in error report it says :
System.ObjectDisposedException: Cannot access a disposed object.
and bunch of other symbols that make no sence to me what so ever.
Dont matter what i do play or just afk at menu.Cheers.

p000p wrote: 4p1t1s

theowest wrote: 4f5b4v

make a post in the tech forum describing your problem https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/5
u see my problem is that osu crashes.
And it happened right after update in error report it says :
System.ObjectDisposedException: Cannot access a disposed object.
and bunch of other symbols that make no sence to me what so ever.
Dont matter what i do play or just afk at menu.Cheers.
Issues aren't being examined in this thread.
As theowest said, please create a new thread in this forum (Technical ) and give every details you can about your issue, including screenshots of the error message.
Even though being used to the old skin, it only took a few seconds for me to like the new UI.
However, in this latest update, I noticed it's no longer possible for me to "ragequit" a song quickly like I used to be able. Whenever failing or quitting a beatmap before, I'd be able to quickly press "Back to menu", and just as quickly navigate and press all neccessary menu buttons in order to quit in less than a second. I was able to press the buttons before then menu screen had faded in, but I can't do that anymore in the song select screen.

This may just seem like a trifle to you, but this has annoyed me immensly. (Also it's some degree of functionality sacrficed for a shinier interface)

Other than that, great update!
Can someone specify what are the "HD " added?

darkmiz wrote: 4b5p21

Can someone specify what are the "HD " added?

peppy wrote: 73101g

Double resolution skinning is now ed. Simply provide files with @2x suffix as you normally would. You still need to provide a standard resolution version too.

Example:
hit300g.png (300x300)
[email protected] (600x600)

High resolution sprites are used for resolutions 1600x and higher.
does that help?

deadbeat wrote: 3l3a6y

darkmiz wrote: 4b5p21

Can someone specify what are the "HD " added?

peppy wrote: 73101g

Double resolution skinning is now ed. Simply provide files with @2x suffix as you normally would. You still need to provide a standard resolution version too.

Example:
hit300g.png (300x300)
[email protected] (600x600)

High resolution sprites are used for resolutions 1600x and higher.
does that help?
Ok, my bad, I thought HD meant Hidden.
Topic Starter

Bark wrote: s636r

Even though being used to the old skin, it only took a few seconds for me to like the new UI.
However, in this latest update, I noticed it's no longer possible for me to "ragequit" a song quickly like I used to be able. Whenever failing or quitting a beatmap before, I'd be able to quickly press "Back to menu", and just as quickly navigate and press all neccessary menu buttons in order to quit in less than a second. I was able to press the buttons before then menu screen had faded in, but I can't do that anymore in the song select screen.

This may just seem like a trifle to you, but this has annoyed me immensly. (Also it's some degree of functionality sacrficed for a shinier interface)

Other than that, great update!
alt-f4 many times :P
just wondering, will the skin template you release contain the .ini option for displaying the hitbursts under the hit objects?
Buccakazu
Nice
I just opened osu! today and I have to say, I love this update peppy. Keep up the good work and good luck <3
A new look for osu, wow I'm surprised :)
It's cool, well.
Greatest update~ ♥
Actually why is the spinner make me confused :?

Elva Anjani Uchiha wrote: 3m516j

Actually why is the spinner make me confused :?


Because you obviously using the default skin.

Elva Anjani Uchiha wrote: 3m516j

Actually why is the spinner make me confused :?
It gets red when it reaches the end and it grows as you continue to spin.
Hi Peppy
The skin is actually okay, what bothers me is that only the 300 notes and are so confusing. Please make Clearer thanks :D
Perhaps it has always been, but I noticed just now.
Why when choosing a song at the top of the list is written order: "<source> (<artist>) - <title>"? Much more logical pattern "<Artist> (<source>) - <title>" or even "<Artist> - <title> (<source>)".
When I look up, it takes 10 seconds to understand the artist.

Meanwhile, in the beatmaplist on the website is quite logical pattern:
<Artist> - <Title>
from <source>
That's been there for a while, the reason it's because Source replaces Artist but was created so people didn't use the Source as Artist, for example you usually find "Persona 4 - Reach out to the truth" not "Shouji Meguro - Reach out to the truth".
Following that, putting hatsune miku as source should be fine.... because we usually find "Hatsune miku - some title"
/kill me
Normally I'm not looking that way. In addition it is normal when it comes to search on website. But the list of beatmaps in the game - another thing, IMO.

What is written in brackets - is usually synonymous, the word replacement or explanation.
But it is impossible to say that Persona 4 and Shouji Meguro - one and the same. Or at least synonymous. It looks illogical.
Perhaps I am critically mistaken in my judgment.

Edit: anyway it's not this thread discussion, my apologies.
Deleted_1727417
I hate the new skin! >< I cannot enjoy the game anymore...
Then, use, custom one?
//polish//
A co ci się w nim takiego nie podoba? Jest czytelny, ładny, prosty, jak chcesz stary to http://puu.sh/1eLHw
Hate this. Hard.

Tyberg29 wrote: 166455

Hate this. Hard.
Provide more details perhaps?
The new default skin is very well designed, good job!

The only thing I think could be improved:
The red arrows which appear in the four corners when a section has ed could be matched better to the rest of the skin. Make them look more like the 'tick' symbol which is displayed in the center when a section was successful. (make them smoother; no black outline, just shadow)

Cheers!
I like new osu! its really cool!!!! :) :) :)
I think the spinner in the new skin is hard to spin, because I can't see the cursor properly while I'm spinning
nice skin ^o^
the new spinner actually makes low-end computer laggy :(
time for purchasing a new computer, maybe?
Looks like almost identical to Windows 8 design, but it's really cool by the way
Edit mode became laggy for me. Maybe just my lappy
But nice skin.
The new skin design is great ~ gives a new feel to the game, especially so because I don't use other skins ...

BrokenArrow wrote: 4h5gl

Tyberg29 wrote: 166455

Hate this. Hard.
Provide more details perhaps?
Parts of the UI are fucked. All the info about your run should be presented on one screen after the map without the need to scroll down. As multiple people have said, the new spinner is absolutely fucked, as is the new "300" and "100" popups (way too discrete and indistinguishable, especially at the end of phrases). Changing the color scheme of the default slider ball is stupid too; makes it less like ouendan for no good reason. On that note, replacing the default pink circle "" with a checkmark? Really? Doesn't affect gameplay as much as some other decisions, but still. The mechanics of the phrasing dots/arrows inbetween distanced notes is now fucked, etc.
Try to adapt before complaining. Most of the stuff works FAR better than you'd think.

Tyberg29 wrote: 166455

Parts of the UI are fucked. All the info about your run should be presented on one screen after the map without the need to scroll down. As multiple people have said, the new spinner is absolutely fucked, as is the new "300" and "100" popups (way too discrete and indistinguishable, especially at the end of phrases). Changing the color scheme of the default slider ball is stupid too; makes it less like ouendan for no good reason. On that note, replacing the default pink circle "" with a checkmark? Really? Doesn't affect gameplay as much as some other decisions, but still. The mechanics of the phrasing dots/arrows inbetween distanced notes is now fucked, etc.
This is just your personal opinion. Most of the reviews here are positive.
And you can still the old skin.
Topic Starter
Every new gameplay elemtn can be skinned back to how it was. If you don't like it, don't use it, but don't complain either :P.
I'm kinda iffy on the new skin. Things look a lot nicer, but for those that want to use custom skins, elements become out of place or are no longer in effect.
For example:

I get that the s who don't like the default spinner can use the old style spinner, but doing so will make the spinner centered to the screen like this and there the background just kinda sits there and makes the spinner look ugly. I tried making the spinner bigger to "cover" the background but it would appear that the maximum size for the spinner is 1024 x 768, which is a problem if you're playing on a widescreen monitor like me.

Another thing that bothers me at the moment is the ranking screen and how it's "incompatible" with custom skins. Everything is off centered and/or cut off. The fact that the song background is used in the ranking screen instead of playfield.png bugs me a bit, too.

I don't think these are bugs and they're probably just things that have been overlooked, but I would love it if the new osu! was a bit more compatible with old skins.
Topic Starter
Disable the "prefer new skin" option. These are not bugs, but an incorrect setting at your end. if they are bugs, report in the appropriate place.
It's already disabled. You can tell from the second screenshot that the Watch Replay image is my custom one. If the Prefer New Skin was on, it would have used the new default skin's button instead.

http://imageshack.us/a/img803/5134/screenshot023q.png - Without Force Skin
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/4714/screenshot024v.png - With Force Skin

Could it be that I have to re-align the images in my skin?

Edit:
Also, the slider becomes default with Force Skin. Without Force Skin, it just becomes cut off.

XPJ38 wrote: 5t1mm

Tyberg29 wrote: 166455

Parts of the UI are fucked. All the info about your run should be presented on one screen after the map without the need to scroll down. As multiple people have said, the new spinner is absolutely fucked, as is the new "300" and "100" popups (way too discrete and indistinguishable, especially at the end of phrases). Changing the color scheme of the default slider ball is stupid too; makes it less like ouendan for no good reason. On that note, replacing the default pink circle "" with a checkmark? Really? Doesn't affect gameplay as much as some other decisions, but still. The mechanics of the phrasing dots/arrows inbetween distanced notes is now fucked, etc.
This is just your personal opinion. Most of the reviews here are positive.
And you can still the old skin.
Because other peoples reviews aren't their personal opinions, right? ;)
ampzz
I'm one of the people who love this new default skin, it actually looks and plays nice.
How do I rank a beatmap after I've played it? The prompt doesn't show up anymore.

Fridge Panic wrote: 2m1a65

How do I rank a beatmap after I've played it? The prompt doesn't show up anymore.
Scroll/drag down at the results screen and you'll see it.
Thanks a lot! I was playing OSU! all day long and couldn't do anything else. Now thanks to these chages I can finally forget about this game)) It's really hard to play now, I tried to apapt, even tried to change the speed of the mouse, but it's impossible for me, the old one was much better.
Topic Starter
Nothing has changed which will affect the mouse speed or gameplay in general. But I guess if that wasn't sarcasm, then you're very welcome.
IppE
They way hitcircles act does affect gameplay in a significant way
^this
I totally affects it. Just like skins do :|
this means you can get used to it
If you don't enjoy the new skin, just the old one, simple like that.
IppE
I wasn't talking about the skin, the new default skin is actually better visually than the old one, I was talking about the way hitcircles act upon hitting them, regardless of skin.
Except this isn't possible as the changes aren't a a skin :P
fug
Topic Starter
The way hitcircles react has not changed.

IppE wrote: w5u60

I wasn't talking about the skin, the new default skin is actually better visually than the old one, I was talking about the way hitcircles act upon hitting them, regardless of skin.
Oh yeah, I've noticed that too.

It feels like you're hitting the vacuum to me, but it's still nice to play anyways.
The so called 'explosion' of hitcircles when u click on them is a lot smaller, you almost cannot see it at all. (and no, I don't mean the lighting)
Just saying, because if you haven't done changes to them directly, could some other changes you've made affect them?
Well, the change is quite annoying, since it makes streams quite a bit harder w/o hidden
I actually like it more the way it is now and think it makes stuff more readable because there's less on the screen.
Try to get used to it, it's not such a big deal.
Sadly, the cursor is still the same. :/
How do I give you all of my money for making this game?

Aika Desu wrote: 5z5i

How do I give you all of my money for making this game?
Not sure what is the meaning of this post.
Soarezi
Some people quit after this update came.. :C

Aika Desu wrote: 5z5i

How do I give you all of my money for making this game?
See the pink heart at the upper-left part of this webpage? click it.

Also, thanks peppy for returning old skin behavior!!! (I will become a er soon!)

Aika Desu wrote: 5z5i

How do I give you all of my money for making this game?
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/p/

Here lies your answer, my friend.
Hi,
Can the black/withe reverse arrow algorithm take in consideration the map skin elements ? Because on some maps, skined elements makes the reverse arrow barely seeable like this :

I'll understand if you say you can't because it could add some more calculatons to determinate arrow color but if you can that may help for a few maps.
Why would you even make the hitcircle contrast like that? That'd make things far too busy.
It's not my map it's a pretty old map , I just used editor for screenshot the slider easily ^^"
I'm pretty sure that's my map xD
Who would have expected.
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