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Just a suggestion for match schedulers, I know this is hard to come up with a proper schedule with so many matches and you did a great job. But next time could you please let a bigger gap between the last match of the night for a team and its first match in the morning ? I mean we finished at midnight yesterday, and we have to play in an hour, which means we have less than 10h gap for sleeping and stuff. I'm awake but I look like a zombie
An after party with
Hell yeah!
I'll pay! But I'd like milk
This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun
lol.

Luna wrote: 2t573e

This DarkStoorM fellow seems pretty cool 8-)
ggwp Ukraine and Poland, was really fun

Also, thanks everyone. Group stage was a bit too hard for me, now I can't even imagine the RO16.
But I had fun, that matters the most. Well played everyone, and see you around next week!
Ro16 map pool looks so good


can I marry it
This should be the mappool if i did not made any mistakes.
Have fun with it. If there are problems, just report them to me.

Good luck to every participant for the Round of 16! (:

Mappool Group Stage Information b3h3j


The amount of times maps in GS stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.


2 EastNewSound - Lucid Dream (Natteke) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
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27 ryo (supercell) - ODDS&ENDS (Short Ver.) (mintong89) [Taiko Oni]
27 Nomizu Iori - Black + White (TV Size) (Makyu) [0gre's Oni]
21 cranky - R176 (taka1235) [Pangko]
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19 Ryu* - Mind Mapping (kors k mix) (Jerry) [m1ng's Oni]
16 Dj Mashiro - Prismatic Lollipops (victorica_db) [Kagami's Oni]
15 Basic Element - Touch You Right Now (Kiiwa) [Kana's Taiko Oni]
13 Hige Driver . SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada (qoot8123) [Oni]
11 paraoka feat. yusuke - center piercing (sakuzyo bootleg) (RLC) [714's Taiko Oni]
11 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Love's Inner Oni]
10 kors k feat.Yoshikawa Sunao - 7 Colors (sionKotori) [Naryuga's Taiko Oni]
10 Hashimoto Miyuki - Yume miru mama ni Koi wo shite (S i R i R u) [31's Taiko]
10 Riryka - Hashiru Sekai to Bokura no Mirai (short version) (Charlotte) [Oni]
10 senya - Yozakura ni Kimi o Kakushite (Dainesl) [Oni]
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9 Ellie Goulding - Burn (Nashmun) [Oni]
9 MuryokuP - Catastrophe (meiikyuu) [Haruka's Oni]
5 Nekomata Master+ - squall (wa_) [TK'S Oni]
5 ave;new feat. Sakura Saori - True My Heart (Suzuka Asahina) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
4 Shihori - Day Breaker (Frostmourne) [Ono's Taiko Oni]

RO 16 Mappool can be found in the wiki!
Topic Starter
Mappool and Schedule are on the wiki now! Mappack will be added (as soon as Marcin is done with bathing his astral body). Match results have been added. Link to Group Statistics has been added under LINKS section.
Well, hello Poland.

Can we have the full bracket though ?
Topic Starter
Bracket is in the makings.
Dear ,

I'm not prepared, please be gentle.
Dear timezones / earth

I wish earth was flat, and sun would evenly shine onto every place on earth at the same time,

Best regards,
everyone.

will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
Topic Starter
Bracket is added
I'm a bit late but I'd like to thank you all for the wonderful experience I had.
Lots of fun, great and kind players, awesome staff!

Good luck to the people in the ro16!
Hmmm... I wonder if there could be some kind of a new category in the mappool like Extra, where you put one custom hard map, and to make it more fair - available only from semi-finals(?)

That probably makes no sense, but... hmmm.
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DarkStoorM wrote: 375856

Hmmm... I wonder if there could be some kind of a new category in the mappool like Extra, where you put one custom hard map, and to make it more fair - available only from semi-finals(?)

That probably makes no sense, but... hmmm.
Tbh I do not understand this request at all.

Nwolf wrote: 2x5s6v

will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
woof :<
k hi bbj o3o

AlexGc96 wrote: 3i4z3o

https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/86160&m=1

What the f-katsu, man
We had that discussion in 2014. Back then I mainly used such maps since I didn't want people to play in their HD/HR confort zone. Those who demand of beeing HD/HR-Master(or even the TWC Masters) shall show it in the TWC by playing these very maps. And to be honest, I still have that opinion. But back then it was seen as too exeggerated and endagered the fun in the tournament, so we had a consens to have for next year (this year; 2015) a mix of low and high bpm maps in HR and HD, so players are able to choose. But it speaks for itself if a team avoids or bans these maps. Not that I want to expose anyone. That's why we will have a mix this year. But at the end, it's an world cup after all. People should show that they are the best. Beside that, it also gives a new tactical aspects which should make the TWC more interesting.


So yeah, for this year you can be sure that every higher-mappool will have at least one of these special maps in HR and HD. Question is just if I'm going to rise the number of maps which are like that. But in any case, there will be always a normal HD / HR pick. And don't forget that there is the NM bracket, too!

Niko-nyan wrote: 6m1841

Nwolf wrote: 2x5s6v

will Quarterfinals map showcase be right after Indonesia - South Korea match or a bit later?
woof :<
k hi bbj o3o
Let's have fun ㅇㅅㅇ
Indonesia v South Korea

early final in RO16
Some of the commentators and myself have made a recap of group stage granted everything looks good you might see that on the osu!live channel in just a bit.
Just found an error in Wiki: Taiwan has UTC+8 but was written as UTC+9...
I hope it's not too late for a betting game :D
Would be awesome if we had another one.

Aye, Tasha.
ggwp Argentina =)
Well played, . I knew you can do it X)

Wooh, I forgot. 2Stronk, I will always enjoy getting rekt by you, thanks!
Also good luck!
Thanks for the game Poland, it was fun as always :)
Good luck with your upcomming matches !

Luna wrote: 2t573e

ggwp Argentina =)
ggwp :D that was a really nice game ^^
Dead end, too stronk ;^;
But it was fun ;^;

Luna wrote: 2t573e

ggwp Argentina =)
Good game guys! was a pleasure to play with you!
#25NeverForget
GGWP
ggwp Korea~ /o/
Grats, Korea!
Grats China. Hope we end up having a good match against our next opponent as well!
my prediction from last week :lol:

but the result of the match vs. Japan and is quite unpredictable :P

no offence

Topic Starter
Schedule and mappool are now both on the wiki page

Please take note of this recap video about the TWC 2015 group stage:

mliencheng wrote: 4g2h5m

my prediction from last week :lol:

but the result of the match vs. Japan and is quite unpredictable :P

no offence

You know, your predictions are surprisingly accurate to the ones I made after brackets were announced, only place we differed was at Japan and Taiwan and Canada beating Hong Kong. I'm still so torn on that match in the grand finals though because both teams are so dang good.
y u no have faith in :(
@Tasha : The matches after the semi-finals are really unpredictable , I don't even think we can win against Japan btw XDD

@Nashmun: J'ai confiance en vous ;w; votre equipe est tres fort cette annee , c'est pourquoi j'ai dit que les matchs contre vous et le Japon sont impossibles a prevoir :D
what about the Z and AA matches??
how am i supposed to beat at 9 in the morning

pls surrender i dont wanna wake up

is there anyway this match can be later pls

goatlife wrote: 286230

how am i supposed to beat at 9 in the morning

pls surrender i dont wanna wake up

is there anyway this match can be later pls
We feel you, we had to go through this against Japan while our previous match was at 11pm :(
I've been gone for almost 2 weeks but i have returned!! \o/

oh wow, you guys have been smoking the competition

good ol 'murica 8-)

mliencheng wrote: 4g2h5m

my prediction from last week :lol:

but the result of the match vs. Japan and is quite unpredictable :P

no offence

i c wut u did der.
Umm... Ok so I was looking through the MP for Hong Kong VS United states group stage match and I saw a bit of a problem with the MP link
Some of the players would get FCs but the mp wouldn't show FC and no misses, this could cause a problem where a team could win by the skin of their teeth like Odds&Ends where Hong Kong actually won the map but since the score of 1 note was uncounted US won that map.
aabc271 made this showing that they did actually win the map but MP broke and showed US winning because of the score not counting
It also happened with Burn and R176, it could be a player connection problem because of it happening to shyguy twice but idk.. Maybe this needs to be looked into

Garpo wrote: 2p5a

Umm... Ok so I was looking through the MP for Hong Kong VS United states group stage match and I saw a bit of a problem with the MP link
Some of the players would get FCs but the mp wouldn't show FC and no misses, this could cause a problem where a team could win by the skin of their teeth like Odds&Ends where Hong Kong actually won the map but since the score of 1 note was uncounted US won that map.
aabc271 made this showing that they did actually win the map but MP broke and showed US winning because of the score not counting
It also happened with Burn and R176, it could be a player connection problem because of it happening to shyguy twice but idk.. Maybe this needs to be looked into
I showed that to Ono and p3n before, but they couldn't do anything because it was already too late when I noticed that like 15 mins after the match :o
Let's just hope the judges can have some more careful checking before deciding the winning team, especially when the scores are close :(
unofficially doing this cause I'm bored atm and I was hoping Ono would do this

Mappool Round of 16 Information 5a2q4y


The amount of times maps in Ro16 stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.


0 Resonecia - Legende (lolcubes) [Legendary Oni]
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7 Hatsune Miku - Unhappy Refrain (NatsumeRin) [Climbb's Taiko Oni]
6 Sagara Koikoro - Hoshizora no Ima (kanpakyin) [Climbb's Taiko Inner Oni]
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5 P*Light - TRIGGER*HAPPY (MineC24) [m1ng's Oni]
5 DECO*27 feat. Hatsune Miku - Streaming Heart (Mintong) [Taiko Inner Oni]
3 fripSide - LEVEL5 -judgelight- (Full Ver.) (cyborg) [youngdow&wood's Taiko]
3 Mary - Artificial Rose (Urushi38) [TK'S Oni]
2 Ayane - Acacia no Ki no Shita de (Alace) [Taiko Oni]
2 KIEN - La Grand Bleu (7odoa) [TK]
2 Kurubukko vs yukitani - Minamichita EVOLVED (Cherry Blossom) [Ex's Taiko Oni]
2 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia (JUDYDANNY) [Inner Oni]
2 Memme - Plasma Gun (MMzz) [Inner Oni]
2 Mitsumune Shinkichi - Battle of Rose (haha5957) [31's Taiko]
2 TeamGrimoire+Amaneko - croiX (HelloSCV) [714's Oni]
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1 Adraen + Renard - Punk Anthem Track (Aleks719) [Taiko Oni]
1 Chai Found Music Workshop - Zeihen ~transformation~ (xierbaliti) [Taiko Ura Oni]
1 Memme - China Dress (Love) [Inner Oni]
1 Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick (tutuhaha) [qoot8123's Oni]
0 capitaro - Utatabigarasu (NatsumeRin) [Taiko Oni]



iirc Utatabigarasu was banned in like 7 or 8 matches
Yeah, thanks. Had no time.
ggwp Taiwan
2strong
It was a great game with !

Your team is also strong :)
Damn, well played OZZY...

ayy
I haven't seen USA vs thingy but I'm pretty sure he picked dududududon

Also yay for semifinals :D
Tough break USA, congrats .
GG USA, that was an intense match ! We had a lot of fun and a lot of stressu. Have fun and good luck for your next matches ! :D
GG !

Definitely was a fun experience. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the match of the tournament.
Topic Starter
wiki updated successfully with schedule, mappool, match results, mappack
Had a blast commentating. Sorry that I ended up not being around as much during later matches.

Also just in case I didn't say it before, thanks a lot for the match earlier this week Indonesia. Hoping to have a good match against this weekend.
oh god that USA vs. match, so intense


also Son of Sun hype
Ten Sho hype
PUPA hype
i really don't understand why you picked Ten Sho Sho Ten Sho for Tiebreaker.
did you see too many unsnapped notes?
  1. just check AiMod.
broken barlines?
  1. 03:57:210 (1668) - due to unsnapped note.
  2. 03:58:493 (1670) -^
  3. 03:59:163 (1672) - ^
  4. 04:05:030 (1681) - ^
  5. 04:54:473 (55) - ^
  6. 05:21:944 (295) - ^
  7. and maybe many more.
wrong timings?
  1. 00:51:982 (306) - absolutely wrong when compare to 00:52:276 (307) -
  2. 05:52:577 (528) - plays really weird because redline is at 05:52:683 -
  3. 05:55:777 (540) - wrong timing. should be 05:55:820 - or so.
  4. and many more.
i have omitted many things because i got tired with that. this map is not playable, it's not ready for the OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT. patterns are enjoyable even though those are kinda hard for the semifinals. but seriously, why did you pick this map? there are too many problems, especially unsnapped things.
This is already known and will be fixed. Project leader has been ed hours before.



So no worries.

Nwolf wrote: 2x5s6v

unofficially doing this cause I'm bored atm and
<OnosakiHito> I wanted to make this, too
Mapper ranking TWC 2015
will edit until done, if data is wrong tell me right away, based my calculations off what i saw in map listings

New faces: 9 (underlined)
Mappers featured this year so far: 41
Total of maps shown: 76 (49 new)

4 (04) — qoot8123, TKS, OnosakiHito, lepidopodus
3 (08) — Nwolf, hs714, mintong89, TW-KUMA01, Alace, MMzz, climbb65588, Mapper 31
2 (07) — Sayaka-, 7odoa, Kagami Yuki, mingmichael, Love, KanaRin, Backfire
1 (22) — 0gre, Charlotte, Dainesl, jericho2442, JUDYDANNY, kjwkjw, Dolphin, Haruka, KayeSara, Naryuga, RockeDon, mekadon, Nashmun, Pheon, woodrockman, youngdow, NatsumeRin, lolcubes, Loctav, Firce777, MoonFragrance, wmfchris

OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u

This is already known and will be fixed. Project leader has been ed hours before.
Maps are supposed to be ready one week before they are picked, it is like using an half-mapped song and saying that you will finish to map it before the macthes lol.

Another potential issue in the mappool :

He is talking about this map from the Hidden picks : https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/316820&m=1
The offset needs to be checked, it sounds like 10 or 20ms too early as DarkStoorm pointed it. Tried it with Hidden and this is a bit uncomfortable to play (pretty hard to get a good accuracy if you focus on the song while playing).
"new" as in maps that haven't been in ANY world cup (including OWC/CWC/MWC) or "new" as in maps that haven't been in any TWC?? C:
@Nofool: Last time I got FC 99%. Hm. I will check that once again, thanks!

@Nwolf: TWC of course.
Good game ! You guys were awesome!

~Announcement~ 235m50

  • Mappool - Semi Finals
  1. Kikuo - Ten Sho Sho Ten Sho [Donphin Inner Oni]'s notes and inherited timing points has been snapped.
  2. t+pazolite - MEGA MEGA CUTiE BREAKiN'!!!!!!!!z got an online offset of +18 for a more accurate gameplay.
We thank you for the reports about these maps and wish every team in the Semi Finals good luck!



P.s.: And let me clean the shame of my fail in the showcase.
Well played, HK, as always!

And of course, thanks everyone for playing! I had lots of fun this year, even if it was hard as f.
Ono, great mappools, enjoyed every single map. Even if they are hard, I still find them challenging to play. There is no such thing as a bad map. Many people said these maps from mappools are weird, but I loved them. Challenge = fun. Thanks.

Commentators were great, teams were great, everything was awesome. Keep up doing the great job, guys!

Psst psst. We had 2 girls playing on our team :3
Wow, three of our players not showing up made me so fking nervous that I got my worst score of the week on every single one of the ten maps we played. Literally. I'm not even exaggerating. Holy shit I feel bad now.
Anyway, gg wp Canada and please beat up Hong Kong for us <3
Really enjoyed the match against . Sorry that you were down some players during our match. That definitely could have gone your way if you had some of your missing players there.

Overall very fun match, and we'll try our best to beat Hong Kong!

DarkStoorM wrote: 375856

Well played, HK, as always!
;__;

gogogo canada!!!
#SWEG KURO'S BACK!!!

oh yeah, gotta rep for our bros up north! gogogo! canadadada!
gg 1v3
After watching the VOD of our match I'm slightly less mad at my performance since it made for such an exciting game :P
@the remaining teams: please do us all a favor and play some more close matches like that for the rest of the tournament <3

DarkStoorM wrote: 375856

Well played, HK, as always!

And of course, thanks everyone for playing! I had lots of fun this year, even if it was hard as f.
Ono, great mappools, enjoyed every single map. Even if they are hard, I still find them challenging to play. There is no such thing as a bad map. Many people said these maps from mappools are weird, but I loved them. Challenge = fun. Thanks.

Commentators were great, teams were great, everything was awesome. Keep up doing the great job, guys!

Psst psst. We had 2 girls playing on our team :3
sameeee feeling, thanks everyone! was so fun :3
You guys did really well! I really hope to see you next year again.
And really glad to hear that DarkStoorm, thanks!
Sorry to let you down . We tried our best but Hong Kong is just too strong for us :o

Very fun game guys, glad to have faced you guys in the match we got knocked out in. Also felt like a lot of the rounds could have gone either way.
Thank you team Canada!
That is really a fun match - our team really enjoy it with thinking what we should do every moment. ( We are mad to choose maps and players www)
GG CHINA!

Was a very intense match, was a pleasure playing against you guys!
I wanted to play Ten Sho Sho Ten Sho ahaha oh well gg
Good game Japanese team , even though soba wasn't there it was still fun :)


I hope I'll be able to get rid of my keyboard lagging problem T___T
Thanks for the game Korea ! Have fun with your next matches !

Hello again, Japan.
GG, shockingly nice performance, ! Good luck with finally taking Japan down!
#jesuiskimchi
f*ck.... and i still manage to sleep through all of the alarms i set :/
Topic Starter
wiki updated. brb sleeping

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

Sorry to let you down . We tried our best but Hong Kong is just too strong for us :o
Judging from our own record against Hong Kong, we wouldn't have fared any better ;P
Nice try though, too bad I couldn't catch it live due to time zones

/E: I guess it's time to cheer on #jesuisescargot

~Announcement~ 235m50


  1. 00:36:410 - adding x0.95 green line
    Feint - Tower Of Heaven (You Are Slaves)
  2. 00:55:260 - snap the kiai
  3. 01:17:978 (449,450) - Moving these notes to 01:17:834 -
  4. 02:22:920 (1025) - snap this note
Mapper ed.

OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u

  1. 01:17:978 (449,450) - Moving these notes to 01:17:834 -
Mapper ed.
these notes seem intended rhythm. 01:18:123 (450) - is following well the bassdrum in the same way as 01:19:494 (454) - .
instead of your suggestion, 01:17:834 - i recommend to check "omit first barline" and add a greenline with x0.85 there.


is this monday for the USA?
No, that's Sunday noon.
Topic Starter

goatlife wrote: 286230



is this monday for the USA?

That's Sunday midday for you.
(Would say (Mon.), if it would be Monday)
unofficially doing again

Mappool Quarterfinals Information 15kk


The amount of times maps in QF stage has been used.
Colours representing their respected mods.


Amount of matches: 7

Picks-Bans

1 Infected Mushroom - Never Mind (SuperMICrophone) [Nwolf's Infected Oni]
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7-0 Rohi - Kodoku Egoism (NatsumeRin) [714's Taiko Oni]
5-0 Falcom Sound Team jdk - Ernst (Pheon) [Oni]
5-0 Subplaid - Jeg onskerikke a skade deg (grumd) [Rocke's Taiko]
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4-0 cranky - Libera Me (wmfchris) [Taiko]
4-0 iyuna - Emukko Kyun Kyun (cRyo[iceeicee]) [KS's Taiko]
3-0 TJ.Hangneil - Kamui (7odoa) [TK]
2-1 Atoguru - Privilege (y u c a) [Pangko]
2-2 nato - Nihilism (Kagami Yuki) [Kagami's Taiko]
2-2 ParagonX9 - Chaoz Japan (Mustaash) [Firce777's Hell Oni]
2-0 O-Life Japan - Yakujinsama no Couple Dance (AngelHoney) [Taiko]
2-1 Shounen Radio - neu (Philippines) [Ono's Taiko Inner Oni]
2-1 Spriggan - Valkyrie Dimension (Charles445) [MM's Taiko]
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1-0 44teru - F.I (AngelHoney) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
1-2 M2U - Quo Vadis (TKSalt) [Inner Oni]
1-3 Ryu* - Rondo Alla Turca (Ryu* Remix) (yeahyeahyeahhh) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
1-3 Sariyajin - Ao no Senritsu (smallboat) [qoot8123's Inner Oni]
0-6 serial TV drama - Tougenkyou Alien (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Taiko]
0-7 Gentle Stick X M2U - Hades in the Heaven (AngelHoney) [Ono's Taiko Oni]
Topic Starter
Upon request, we postponed the Japan vs match by two hours, being placed now on Saturday, 4. April 2015, 10:00 UTC. This is an exception.
We do only allow exceptions in very rare circumstances, and only if we are in the Finals. We will not allow rescheduling of matches regularely in future for anyone.
Good game Taiwan! That comeback was pretty amazing, and it wracked pretty much every last one of my nerves thinking about performing during one of these matches with you guys.
gg HK, you guys were nice!
CAN TAIWAN BEAT THE FRENCH

THE HYPE

IS

REAL

FIND OUT AT 3 AM IN THE MORNING

red bull acquired
Gratz Taiwan, you guys are really strong. That was a great match even though we hoped it to turn out a different way !

Good luck against Japan !
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