I'm bored, so in this thread you can ask a gameplay/improvement related question and I will do my best to answer it.
(even if you're not me feel free to give players advice in this thread)


Newer players encouraged.

Is it Normal to Jump from a 3.55* Map to a 3.7* Map, While Skipping 5 Maps Of Lower Difficulty in Between?

Kanhano2 wrote: 6y3p5l

Is it Normal to Jump from a 3.55* Map to a 3.7* Map, While Skipping 5 Maps Of Lower Difficulty in Between?

Yes, this is totally normal. Making a .15 star rating increase is not an abnormal improvement, especially in lower star ratings.

Also did you mean that you are FCing the maps? or are you ing them?

would you say short aim/aimslop maps CAN help with pushing aim skillcap? I generally avoid them but I have tried a few on private servers and they do feel like they could be helpful for the aforementioned purpose

eiqmy wrote: 4n3h63

would you say short aim/aimslop maps CAN help with pushing aim skillcap? I generally avoid them but I have tried a few on private servers and they do feel like they could be helpful for the aforementioned purpose

I'm not OP, but the answer is yes. Why wouldn't they? In fact, they're one of the best ways possible.

Naiad wrote: 435m1i

eiqmy wrote: 4n3h63

would you say short aim/aimslop maps CAN help with pushing aim skillcap? I generally avoid them but I have tried a few on private servers and they do feel like they could be helpful for the aforementioned purpose

I'm not OP, but the answer is yes. Why wouldn't they? In fact, they're one of the best ways possible.

Thank you!

pacer test wrote: 1n174k

Kanhano2 wrote: 6y3p5l

Is it Normal to Jump from a 3.55* Map to a 3.7* Map, While Skipping 5 Maps Of Lower Difficulty in Between?

Yes, this is totally normal. Making a .15 star rating increase is not an abnormal improvement, especially in lower star ratings.

Also did you mean that you are FCing the maps? or are you ing them?

Just ing, I Get Around 75% Acc on the 3.55, About the Same on the 3.7

I single tap with my index finger but I can only start burst and streams with my middle finger.

Should I:
1. single tap with my middle finger instead - I feel like I am physically limited as I actually switched from middle to index because I was having trouble with my middle finger. My middle finger was good when I started but it felt suddenly like it can't keep up and is always way slower than my index after I started playing dt and it slowed down.

or

2. relearn how to burst and stream using my index finger - I have tried many times but I just keep stopping as I always just feel that its just boring and dumb, even though I know that it will help me a lot in of tapping.


I feel that option 1 is the easier of the two but it will limit my ability, on the other hand option 2 will take a lot of time and effort but it will payoff a ton in the end, what do you think?

eiqmy wrote: 4n3h63

would you say short aim/aimslop maps CAN help with pushing aim skillcap? I generally avoid them but I have tried a few on private servers and they do feel like they could be helpful for the aforementioned purpose

yes they most definitely can. However the patterns on those maps are usually very low angled and uniform, so you should play traditional aim maps as well as aim control maps too to train all aim skillsets.

I would say they're best for pushing raw aim speed

WontWork wrote: 2o6c2q

I single tap with my index finger but I can only start burst and streams with my middle finger.

Should I:
1. single tap with my middle finger instead - I feel like I am physically limited as I actually switched from middle to index because I was having trouble with my middle finger. My middle finger was good when I started but it felt suddenly like it can't keep up and is always way slower than my index after I started playing dt and it slowed down.

or

2. relearn how to burst and stream using my index finger - I have tried many times but I just keep stopping as I always just feel that its just boring and dumb, even though I know that it will help me a lot in of tapping.


I feel that option 1 is the easier of the two but it will limit my ability, on the other hand option 2 will take a lot of time and effort but it will payoff a ton in the end, what do you think?

I would actually say in your case, learning how to full alternate would be beneficial because you would learn how to start streams with both fingers. I know learning it is awful, but speaking from experience its definitely worth it because it sounds like you have a muscle imbalance between your middle and index fingers due to the switch from middle to index finger single-tapping, causing you to gain more strength in your index finger from using it more, so tapping with both fingers equally when alternating would hopefully get rid of the imbalance.

(To be honest, I think pushing fingercontrol and technique fixes 99% of tapping problems)

Also, i'm *pretty* sure that most people's middle fingers are just naturally slower. People compensate for this slowness through technique, look at zylice for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_D8c8GmAes
you can see how little he moves his middle finger compared to his index.

I see, thanks for the ! I'll learn how to full alt and see how it goes.

bump

i got skill issue

Mugenq wrote: r654

i got skill issue

i hope they find a cure some day. Praying for you.

I’m struggling really hard to get accustomed to high 4* and bottom 5* maps, I only have a few FCs but it feels like most 5* maps are WILDLY different from each other, I can low miss count and high acc (95-97%) some meanwhile other 5* are like 90-94% acc with 8-14x misses, what should I be playing to improve? Low 4* feel too easy but maybe I should stick to playing 4-4.5* anyways?

Demisha wrote: 5d3v6z

I’m struggling really hard to get accustomed to high 4* and bottom 5* maps, I only have a few FCs but it feels like most 5* maps are WILDLY different from each other, I can low miss count and high acc (95-97%) some meanwhile other 5* are like 90-94% acc with 8-14x misses, what should I be playing to improve? Low 4* feel too easy but maybe I should stick to playing 4-4.5* anyways?

It's ok. Rather than tunnel vision on a star rating number, find a broad range of maps to play. Right now for me, I play anything 6-8 stars. A 1.5 - 2 star difference range should be good for you!

Demisha wrote: 5d3v6z

I’m struggling really hard to get accustomed to high 4* and bottom 5* maps, I only have a few FCs but it feels like most 5* maps are WILDLY different from each other, I can low miss count and high acc (95-97%) some meanwhile other 5* are like 90-94% acc with 8-14x misses, what should I be playing to improve? Low 4* feel too easy but maybe I should stick to playing 4-4.5* anyways?

High 4 star and low 5 star is where maps start to move away from the standard "easy diff" mapping style. Maps start to introduce more ambitious patterns and spacings, so thats why you feel that 5 star maps are largely different from one another. The inconsistency you have across different 5 star maps could probably be fixed by identifying what skillsets you struggle on, and then pushing that skillset– I would assume that (for you and most players) that the 5 star maps you do better on are simple aim maps. You probably struggle on tech or fingercontrol.

Therefore, I think that you should:
-Continue playing maps you can consistently fc
-Play harder maps along with maps you can easily FC, but really focus on specific skillsets you struggle on
-Play more, the jump from 4 to 5 star is where maps become "real maps" where maps dont follow the same insane diff structure. There's really no other way to move past it. I can say from experience that once you can play 5 stars, improvment to 6-7 stars feels less like a struggle.

Mugenq wrote: r654

Demisha wrote: 5d3v6z

I’m struggling really hard to get accustomed to high 4* and bottom 5* maps, I only have a few FCs but it feels like most 5* maps are WILDLY different from each other, I can low miss count and high acc (95-97%) some meanwhile other 5* are like 90-94% acc with 8-14x misses, what should I be playing to improve? Low 4* feel too easy but maybe I should stick to playing 4-4.5* anyways?

It's ok. Rather than tunnel vision on a star rating number, find a broad range of maps to play. Right now for me, I play anything 6-8 stars. A 1.5 - 2 star difference range should be good for you!

Thank you so much, I had my most fun session after 2 weeks by just widening the range of maps I play from 4.3-5 to 4.3-6.5, turns out a LOT and I mean a LOOOT of 5* maps are just really complicated patterns and tapping rhythms (or straight up streaming marathons like ice angel), I was impressed at being able to play some 6* maps and even hitting some jumps I didn’t think I could

(To clarify, some high SR maps are still very hard but a lot of them are just a little rougher aim with like simpler patterns kind of stuff and that felt more like what I was used to seeing progressing little by little)

I've noticed recently that on note stacks / note+slider stacks that I'm always hitting the first note and missing all the following ones. I'm sure my tapping is on time and its 100% not my aim, so why does this happen?

My only idea is that its to do with how long I'm holding my keys down and when releasing, and even if it is this how would I go about improving it?

Visibly it just looks like the notes disappear way earlier than they're meant to be hit so to me it looks like I'm missing on nothing, but again I'm certain that I'm tapping on time. (This isn't exclusive to hard maps either, it could be a 4* finger control section for example)

How to improve raw aim?

Swurzle wrote: p512n

I've noticed recently that on note stacks / note+slider stacks that I'm always hitting the first note and missing all the following ones. I'm sure my tapping is on time and its 100% not my aim, so why does this happen?

My only idea is that its to do with how long I'm holding my keys down and when releasing, and even if it is this how would I go about improving it?

Visibly it just looks like the notes disappear way earlier than they're meant to be hit so to me it looks like I'm missing on nothing, but again I'm certain that I'm tapping on time. (This isn't exclusive to hard maps either, it could be a 4* finger control section for example)

Could you provide an example of a map, or even a video/replay where this happens? I cant really diagnose why you are missing because honestly there could be a lot of reasons you could be missing stacked notes, but I could figure it out through replay analysis and help you.

Aveil wrote: 611068

How to improve raw aim?

play more aim, and also play maps that have a lot of spacing (dont have to be high bpm either)

play quadro's corner jump training for cross screen aim

for mindset advice, do you believe everyone can get better and become #1, or are there some people who will never reach the top 100, no matter how hard they try?

Fujiya wrote: 3p3pl

for mindset advice, do you believe everyone can get better and become #1, or are there some people who will never reach the top 100, no matter how hard they try?

if you don't got the hours (work or whatever) then you just can't do it

Mugenq wrote: r654

Fujiya wrote: 3p3pl

for mindset advice, do you believe everyone can get better and become #1, or are there some people who will never reach the top 100, no matter how hard they try?

if you don't got the hours (work or whatever) then you just can't do it

I think you didn’t understand my question. Imagine there are two players and an infinite amount of time. Both have the best possible setup, and both want to become the best. Is it possible that one of them simply has no talent, and no matter how much time he spends, he’ll still remain far behind the other?

What’s in your mindset as opinion on that imaginary situation? I think that part is crucial.

Fujiya wrote: 3p3pl

for mindset advice, do you believe everyone can get better and become #1, or are there some people who will never reach the top 100, no matter how hard they try?

I think that with an absurd amount of time and dedication, anyone could reach #1. But Genetics and Age play a big factor of how quickly you could get there.

Fujiya wrote: 3p3pl

Mugenq wrote: r654

Fujiya wrote: 3p3pl

for mindset advice, do you believe everyone can get better and become #1, or are there some people who will never reach the top 100, no matter how hard they try?

if you don't got the hours (work or whatever) then you just can't do it

I think you didn’t understand my question. Imagine there are two players and an infinite amount of time. Both have the best possible setup, and both want to become the best. Is it possible that one of them simply has no talent, and no matter how much time he spends, he’ll still remain far behind the other?

What’s in your mindset as opinion on that imaginary situation? I think that part is crucial.

both can be top 1, it's just about what skillset is more meta

but here's the thing: the one that pushes their raw mechanics the most will still win because that's what's easiest to train.

if you want to get infinitely good at this game, follow mrekk, vaxei, players like these.

body then technique then mind in this order.

your body is mechanics (DT, raw tapping, raw aim, basic aim tap sync)
your technique is how refined your raw mechanics is (how close to perfect your mechanics can get on low star hard maps)
then mind is what a high level player would need to practice the most, by constantly FCing and playing tournments (basically practicing their nerves and the ability to push for perfection on harder maps)

up until 4 and sometimes even 1k rank you realistically only need raw mechanics

i can get up to 80 to low 90 ac on 3.9-4.1 star maps reliably but i cant fc at best i miss 6 times how do i improve mc acc to get my first fc?

2 things...

1. I can't get used to high AR (STD:10/CTB:9)

2. I want to at least hit a 200pp on std bro I'm crying.

pacer test wrote: 1n174k

I think that with an absurd amount of time and dedication, anyone could reach #1.

Actually there are multiple secret ways of becoming good but if top players spilled the beans about them everyone would be good and that just can't happen.

I can't play bpm >=200

I have an issue when I burst or stream

I just can't stay my tapping at the BPM

Like When I play anything lower than 190 BPM I overstream it

And even when I play normal map by means the consistency map cus it's my play style

I something hit streams perfectly or just 100s and 50s

Can anyone give me a tip or advice to fix that


Thank you!

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

I have an issue when I burst or stream

I just can't stay my tapping at the BPM

Like When I play anything lower than 190 BPM I overstream it

And even when I play normal map by means the consistency map cus it's my play style

I something hit streams perfectly or just 100s and 50s

Can anyone give me a tip or advice to fix that


Thank you!

Stop thinking of the stream so much as a stream and try to read and play the map while paying more attention to individual notes or at least groupings of notes. basically, read actively.

Naiad wrote: 435m1i

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

I have an issue when I burst or stream

I just can't stay my tapping at the BPM

Like When I play anything lower than 190 BPM I overstream it

And even when I play normal map by means the consistency map cus it's my play style

I something hit streams perfectly or just 100s and 50s

Can anyone give me a tip or advice to fix that


Thank you!

Stop thinking of the stream so much as a stream and try to read and play the map while paying more attention to individual notes or at least groupings of notes. basically, read actively.

so like I read note by note

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

Naiad wrote: 435m1i

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

I have an issue when I burst or stream

I just can't stay my tapping at the BPM

Like When I play anything lower than 190 BPM I overstream it

And even when I play normal map by means the consistency map cus it's my play style

I something hit streams perfectly or just 100s and 50s

Can anyone give me a tip or advice to fix that


Thank you!

Stop thinking of the stream so much as a stream and try to read and play the map while paying more attention to individual notes or at least groupings of notes. basically, read actively.

so like I read note by note

As much as possible. Sometimes it's not really feasible. What's important is that you're consciously tapping to stimuli, not just trying to make your hand move at a certain speed.

Naiad wrote: 435m1i

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

Naiad wrote: 435m1i

Tesseract_ wrote: 2p52n

I have an issue when I burst or stream

I just can't stay my tapping at the BPM

Like When I play anything lower than 190 BPM I overstream it

And even when I play normal map by means the consistency map cus it's my play style

I something hit streams perfectly or just 100s and 50s

Can anyone give me a tip or advice to fix that


Thank you!

Stop thinking of the stream so much as a stream and try to read and play the map while paying more attention to individual notes or at least groupings of notes. basically, read actively.

so like I read note by note

As much as possible. Sometimes it's not really feasible. What's important is that you're consciously tapping to stimuli, not just trying to make your hand move at a certain speed.

ok but whats stimuli