OzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p

peppy is tight with ZUN

this made my day lol

So you were able to the creators of the songs and obtain rights to use them in osu!stream?

For some reason, this strikes me as really cool.


EDIT:
The iPad on the site looks a bit funky:

Daru wrote: 11852

So you were able to the creators of the songs and obtain rights to use them in osu!stream?

Yes, permission has been obtained.

Daru wrote: 11852

The iPad on the site looks a bit funky:

I'm surprised that's all you noticed ^^;. I have a bit to fix on that site.

Noticed some 'familiar' songs in osu stream, hmm, might be a good advantage.

Ah, Lix and Amane?

This is a really nice surprise.

Do wonder about which artists will be included next.

Many touhous available... Hmm, touhou fans will like it, anyway.

Don't expect we can get "major" song in osu!stream.
But if you are contents holder / friend of it, it could be.

Of course I don't expected those 'licenced' songs or something, but I wanted something fresh, to be honest.

Ah, wait, I don't have any device to play it anyway.

I'm loving the Graphic Elements :D

Quaraezha wrote: 2y1l6x

I'm loving the Graphic Elements :D

Totally agreed. Really fancy, I think.

Wow, it's hard. I can't complete any map with S grade and it's impossible to complete expert mode with A grade

MarKKaM777 wrote: 2q6n2o

Wow, it's hard. I can't complete any map with S grade and it's impossible to complete expert mode with A grade

Yeah same here haha. My fingers keep getting in the way of me seeing a note or I start a hold with the wrong hand/finger. It'd be nice to see some non-touhou/vocaloid/anime/nightcore songs but I'm liking the current free ones.

We are working on song choice. Also the difficulty will be toned down in the next update.

peppy wrote: 73101g

We are working on song choice. Also the difficulty will be toned down in the next update.

Well don't overdo toning it down. Maybe for the stream mode so it's easier to unlock expert, but I'm loving the new mapping techniques the multitouch and hold features are providing, despite their difficulty.

Only judgement windows would be changed, not the maps themselves . We are confident about the maps.

That's good then. I got an FC with 94.5% or something like that and still got an A

This is so cool

I've only A'd one Stream map, and proceeded to D its expert counterpart. I blame my screen's roughness.


One thing that trips me up is hold notes in the middle of the map. I hit it with my right finger since I'm right-handed, and the next few beats are on the right and I break. :<

Avedas wrote: v1s3k

That's good then. I got an FC with 94.5% or something like that and still got an A

Grade calculation in osu!stream is entirely dependent on score Just get over 900.000 points to obtain an S.

whoa, nice game

haha, Tester: My mum. I'm serious

Looking forward to trying it out soon.

Amazing game.

It works smoothly on my iPad2,but after about 30min gaming,my iPad get hot and lost about 10% battery.It confused me a lot cause other games like jubeat or pulse didn't do so.Are there still any bugs or optimization problems in the game?would it be fixed or optimized in the future version?

a Chinese player with broken English,I hope peppy could understand.XD

I have not yet tested power efficiency, but this should not be the case. I will look into it. 10% battery drained in 30 minutes, or 100->10%? 10% change is normal for about 30 minutes of gameplay.

I S'd a few Stream maps and A'd some Experts, really really nice app.

However, don't you think osu!stream is easier to play on iPad than iPod? I play on iPod Touch 2G and sometimes cluttered notes are tricky!

it is 10% battery drained in 30 minutes.Sure the graphic is really really cool.but don't u think the consumption is too much for a rhythm game?And I'm anxious about the heat,Would my ipad exploded after 2~3 hours gaming?...XD

Just wondering.
Isn't the port to Android of this being considered?

IIRC android osu!stream is also in progress, you'll just have to wait a little longer.

X wrote: 57h6j

it is 10% battery drained in 30 minutes.Sure the graphic is really really cool.but don't u think the consumption is too much for a rhythm game?And I'm anxious about the heat,Would my ipad exploded after 2~3 hours gaming?...XD

hmm, i'll test other games, but i think that is quite standard? that's 5 hours of gameplay .

Oh it's so hard to get a high acc. Many 100 on sliders. I think if we can lower the OD of maps ?

KanbeKotori, the OD is going to get lowered on the next build.

I'm thankful for that because it makes Expert maps really really hard to S.

I am seriously looking forward to getting this for Android. I still haven't bothered to buy a new phone, as I can never make my mind up on which to buy. However, I might end up being swayed into a device with a 4"+ screen. I've been wanting the Desire Z since it'd came out, but would any of you say that that might be too small?

GOOOOD I CANT STOP PLAYING

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO PEPPY


awesome

This app will makes it clear what tablet to buy. Would never get an iPad and the Playbook will never be able to top this. Go Android!

So... Still waiting for my solid gold maps.

When does android get it.

New slider system is too hard. So, i usually get 100 or 50 points. Peppy, maybe it's better to make sliders like in PC version of osu (i mean, it will be not important, how far the approachcircle is from slidercircle when u press it, the most important thing - to bring the slider to the end)
Hope, you'll understand me ^_^

MMzz wrote: 2g46e

When does android get it.

When it's done.

MarKKaM777 wrote: 2q6n2o

New slider system is too hard. So, i usually get 100 or 50 points. Peppy, maybe it's better to make sliders like in PC version of osu (i mean, it will be not important, how far the approachcircle is from slidercircle when u press it, the most important thing - to bring the slider to the end)
Hope, you'll understand me ^_^

Slider scoring is also being made more generous. In the next version, you should always get at least an 100 unless you break your combo on the slider. Getting a 300 on the slider requires hitting the head with perfect accuracy. This isn't authentic, but it's the way peppy wants it to be. (TBH, sliders were a little too easy in Ouendan, so I can this change.)

Since the "perfect accuracy" requirement for slider heads is the same as hitting a 300 on a hitcircle, and this is being reduced, sliders will become a little easier still.

An instantaneous loss of screen will cause slider judgement to become much stricter. This is being looked into.

mm201 wrote: 5k144r

Slider scoring is also being made more generous. In the next version, you should always get at least an 100 unless you break your combo on the slider. Getting a 300 on the slider requires hitting the head with perfect accuracy. This isn't authentic, but it's the way peppy wants it to be. (TBH, sliders were a little too easy in Ouendan, so I can this change.)

Since the "perfect accuracy" requirement for slider heads is the same as hitting a 300 on a hitcircle, and this is being reduced, sliders will become a little easier still.

An instantaneous loss of screen will cause slider judgement to become much stricter. This is being looked into.

Thanks for the detailed answer. Everything is good now, but i hope it will be perfect!
One more advice : the line, which connects two simultaneously appearing hitcircles should be colored in more vivid colour, for example blue or black, because sometimes it's difficult to see it.

Black would be much harder to see IMO. I find they look very bright and noticeable right now. As a spacing reader, I notice them right away and can react appropriately.

Well, so i have to train

Loving it! It requires a little bit more control over my left thumb/hand to fc on expert mode haha but I'm sure I'll get better by time. Well done everyone who's involved!

Right now I'm having a great time trying to A'd expert songs with only one hand
I hope more song packs to get released soon ! I loooooove this game so much, and I only played it for one day

Played it first on my dad's iPhone today and almost missed the bus while doing so! It was pretty cool.

Played it better when I got home today on my brother's iTouch (Since I've only got a Classic.) and I've just managed to unlock all 4 Insane modes. It took us a while to figure out that you had to the other 2 maps in-app. I look forward to more stuff and even spending money to buy some maps.

Playing this at 3 in the morning, really addictive and will be showing it to all of my mates when I see them next

It's going to mean more people on the PC version as well, which I can only see as a good thing.

I really wonder, who mapped which map in this game?
I'm going for James at Amane - Being Proof, but I can't figure out the rest xD

GladiOol wrote: 701r1j

I really wonder, who mapped which map in this game?
I'm going for James at Amane - Being Proof, but I can't figure out the rest xD

Maybe we can have a competition at matching these up .

Then I'll not participate, Sushi already told me for his maps

The Song Select Screen doesn't show the mappers?

Nicely done, hold notes and same-time-notes are fun!
Needs more training for left hand play and sliders

Quaraezha wrote: 2y1l6x

The Song Select Screen doesn't show the mappers?

The version I played doesn't, but a screenshot for the iPad's on the appstore site shows mapper names.
http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/116/Pur ... 480-75.jpg

Quaraezha wrote: 2y1l6x

The Song Select Screen doesn't show the mappers?

Everyone who has never heard of osu! will be like 'What does sushi have to do with this?' or 'What is a lybydose?'.

Aww yeah I was right about James \:D/

I really love the maps in this game so far~ I really hope new ones (free? <3) will come out soon

xsrsbsns wrote: 281c6t

The version I played doesn't, but a screenshot for the iPad's on the appstore site shows mapper names.
http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r1000/116/Pur ... 480-75.jpg

oSHI! competition's off guys ><

Why nobody near me has iPad or iPhone? I'd like to test this out.

Peppy. Please, Explain me. I know that it's difficult to have an S, BUT IN THS CASE, it's close to be impossible ;_;

Seriously, some maps are really easy to S, some arent. REALLY

It looks like you need to score over900000 points at least on each map to get S grade.

I need to stop watching osu!stream videos. They make me jealous ;_;

MarKKaM777 wrote: 2q6n2o

It looks like you need to score over900000 points at least on each map to get S grade.

Ok, but for this one it's almost impossible. (for instance) An S is really easier to get for March Handyman, and not only because of the map in itself :/

NEEDS MORE STRUCTURE MAPPERS I CAN'T PLAY THIS GAME UNLESS I SEE SOME SLIDER ART ACTION

Play Septette, or otherwise wait for Love Color, Master Spark and Vision of Misty Rain.

Lol, Septette just has some nice arcs, but I wanna see Krisom or Gonzvlo stuff, or your stuf with the tree and whatnot lol.

But I understand that there's not enough songs to base how they'll all be lol.

EDIT: Oh god how many times did I say 'lol'? lol.

There are plenty of songs to go around. The problem is time, and that none of the offerings from "structure mappers" are ready.
We will be expanding our mapping team once we get more from the players and figure out the essential qualities of good maps.

peppy wrote: 73101g

Daru wrote: 11852

So you were able to the creators of the songs and obtain rights to use them in osu!stream?

Yes, permission has been obtained.

This worries me.

If you get permission to use their songs and they think "Oh hey I wonder what standard osu is like" and see all of their OTHER songs chilling on osu, what will happen to the game we've come to love and adore like a newborn baby?

I don't want to give him up to a foster home.

if they care they'd file infringement and we'd lose the songs

http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/p/copyright

tl;dr: We blame the mapper, remove the map, and move on.

Roga-don wrote: 4nd59

Peppy. Please, Explain me. I know that it's difficult to have an S, BUT IN THS CASE, it's close to be impossible ;_;

Seriously, some maps are really easy to S, some arent. REALLY

you will get S sooner or later.

don't get 100s at the end lol

D33d wrote: 1z2z1f

I am seriously looking forward to getting this for Android. I still haven't bothered to buy a new phone, as I can never make my mind up on which to buy. However, I might end up being swayed into a device with a 4"+ screen. I've been wanting the Desire Z since it'd came out, but would any of you say that that might be too small?

I dunno~
You might be right, it is kiiiiiiinda small. At any rate, I'll let you know how it plays on my Desire Z when it's out !

Meanwhile, maybe I should see if I can hijack my mom's iPad and install osu!stream on that.

Extremely dissapointed. I wrote a review however it doesn't seem to have gone through. Makes me sad but, sorry Peppy, this just isn't a good game.

Thanks a lot for the extremely constructive

Okay okay that was a little harsh, sorry, if anything I'm annoyed because my App store review doesn't seem to have appeared. I poured my heart and soul into that detailed and ionate review and now it's gone... On an iPhone aswell! And I suck at writing with iPhones.

If you wish I will re-write it here though, as I have nothing better to do! Personally myself I plan on sticking with PC-osu though. I love this game, I'm just not so in love with it's app counterpart

Reviews are not displayed instantly, as they go through (apparently) a moderation process at Apple's end. You can write reviews from iTunes to save the keyboard pain. Also osu!stream should not be compared to osu!; they are two completely separate projects and games, with different design decisions and goals.

I see. Well in that case have fun reading it when it pops up? xD

That is a fair point, however in my review ([email protected] if you're interested), I compare it to the other rhythm game app I play to soothe my finger tapping urges when I'm out and about, DDR S. Which I think is fair enough.

(And really I only mention PC-osu! now because I want to tell you how awesome it is hehe, and praise you rather than critisize your app)...

P.S. No but really, I'll be a er for a long time :L

peppy wrote: 73101g

GladiOol wrote: 701r1j

Paying for only 3 maps seems a bit too much for me, so not going to do that ):

On-par or cheaper than every other rhythm game on iOS and other platforms. Consider you are getting the game for free, and each song can take upwards of 100 man-hours to obtain rights, map and polish. Consider that , maintenance, new features, server and distribution costs are not free.

What happened to the free community spirit? It's more of a business model now...
Taking 100 hours to get 1 song ready seems to imply the process is a bit convoluted and should be changed doesn't it?

Guy-kun wrote: 4kf2h

What happened to the free community spirit? It's more of a business model now...

Correct, it is a business model. osu!stream != osu! and never will. It is a separate project with a separate aim. In order to get it prepared I have quit my day job, so it could also be considered a possible source of income. It is also part of my endeavour to try and help smaller artist become more known, and provide them a stream of revenue that can help them create more work in the future, and possibly grow larger.

Even so, I think there is something to be said about offering the application for free, along with four songs and more to come? Nah, nevermind, there's definitely not community spirit there.[/slightsarcasm]

Guy-kun wrote: 4kf2h

Taking 100 hours to get 1 song ready seems to imply the process is a bit convoluted and should be changed doesn't it?

It may be able to be improved, but that doesn't change that a lot of effort is still required (much of which I believe cannot be avoided). Making stream-matching levels involved more than standard osu! maps, as does planning for the touchscreen platform. Testing is relatively rigorous to ensure a high standard of maps. Also have to consider the time spend communicating with artists for licencing, packaging, precision timing etc.

Nonetheless, thanks for your one star App Store rating. The is always appreciated .

Guy-kun wrote: 4kf2h

What happened to the free community spirit? It's more of a business model now...

You're right, but it's the only way for the game to exist on the appstore. However, the game is evolving to a new stade, and I don't think it's a bad thing. I mean, it has the capacities to go into something greater, so I think peppy's right going in a commercial system (well, it's kinda hard too xD).

(PS:Bad english wooops)

It is also a step towards my ultimate goal of bringing osu! to the arcades (at least in countries which still have those things ). Keep in mind that it will in no way affect my dedication to osu!, so if the commercial model does not fit into your values then just stay away from the paid packs and enjoy the free ones? Or just leave osu!stream alone (but to give it a one star review before leaving, because that's the trendy thing to do).

I think people who question the fact there are paid elements in osu!stream should probably take a step back and understand that not everything in life is/should be free. Music does actually take effort and cost money to compose, produce and obtain rights to. Making games is likewise -- code doesn't write itself. Maybe it's a good chance to realise how privileged we all are here at osu! for how things currently work in the community .

peppy wrote: 73101g

Correct, it is a business model. osu!stream != osu! and never will. It is a separate project with a separate aim. In order to get it prepared I have quit my day job, so it could also be considered a possible source of income. It is also part of my endeavour to try and help smaller artist become more known, and provide them a stream of revenue that can help them create more work in the future, and possibly grow larger.

Okay, that makes more sense, I think from the start it has felt too strongly tied to osu! with the almost identical gameplay, the inclusion of the term 'osu!' and so forth. As a separate endeavour this makes perfect sense and I wish you all the luck.
Just cashing in on the fact that you have a free community game called 'osu!' to promote your new 'business' is a liiittle unfair.

peppy wrote: 73101g

Even so, I think there is something to be said about offering the application for free, along with four songs and more to come? Nah, nevermind, there's definitely not community spirit there.[/slightsarcasm]

Oh come on, how far would you get if the game was charged, and all maps were charged, this is basically a free trial and done by everyone. Not kindness.

peppy wrote: 73101g

Also have to consider the time spend communicating with artists for licencing, packaging, precision timing etc.

Taking osu! stream as a non-community game, this makes more sense, otherwise I'd be arguing the side that people should be spending their own time willingly.

peppy wrote: 73101g

Nonetheless, thanks for your one star App Store rating. The is always appreciated .

Hey, I take back being too harsh, I was simply really shocked after believing this would be a community game. I apologise.
I'll re-review it more constructively next build <:

peppy wrote: 73101g

I think people who question the fact there are paid elements in osu!stream should probably take a step back and understand that not everything in life is/should be free. Music does actually take effort and cost money to compose, produce and obtain rights to. Making games is likewise -- code doesn't write itself. Maybe it's a good chance to realise how privileged we all are here at osu! for how things currently work in the community .

I believe its possible to keep a ion up to give for free. Look at many open-source developers, who don't get swayed by the thoughts of cashing in on their efforts.

I have actually tried to keep it from being tied to osu! at all. I will actually take this moment to remove the only link (the title screen colours) which I placed there just for some fun. Going forward I will be continuing to avoid any linking between the two games that can be avoided from my end, as they cannot possibly co-exist. Of course people who are familiar with osu! will make that unavoidable connection, but we I have to deal with that for not coming up with a more unique name (I did try).

There are quite a few rhythm games on the app store that charge $0.99 and have relatively high sales figures. I believe the model I am using will possibly not work in my favour as many people will be more than content with the freely available content, but I want this to be the case. I want osu! to be played by as many people as possible, and making it free allows this to happen.

Also for those which think the current pricing is too expensive, there will most definitely be sales or cheaper bundles in the future, as I learn how people respond to pricing. My entry level pricing is based on what I believe the songs/levels are to be worth, and what is generally accepted in Japan (as my history of iOS rhythm gaming has been on japanese games). If you consider that it'd be the same as spending a credit playing the song once at an arcade, it no longer seems like a high figure. I won't even get started on how warped people's perception of value is on the portable gaming/app market, but there is definitely a lot to be said.

I hope to start a blog on osu!stream going into these kinds of issues to be as transparent as possible, because I think others can learn from this kind of thing too.

Guy-kun wrote: 4kf2h

I believe its possible to keep a ion up to give for free. Look at many open-source developers, who don't get swayed by the thoughts of cashing in on their efforts.

I have not and will not ever be swayed to cash-in on osu!. I'd sooner take it off the internet than do that . I think dedicating most of four years of my life to this game can say something along those lines itself, though. Just sayin'.

Okay, my only criticism is directed at you for being bad at thinking up new names <:

People obviously have a very distorted view of the value of digital goods, It'd be very hard to charge near-arcade prices I think...
Possibly with a more definite ownership of the songs when you pay for them would correct that (songs being against an osu!stream , and being available cross-platform when purchased). At the moment, paying money would just seem like throwing away money at something that isn't very retain-able.

But that's my two cents anyway, I know it'd be a nightmare to implement.

I am already making steps forward towards detaching song ownership from apple's IAP system, because it really sucks. The next update will allow updates to owned songs without any IAP dialogs. Let's see how far I can take it.

I am already making steps forward towards detaching song ownership from apple's IAP system, because it really sucks. The next update will allow updates to owned songs without any IAP dialogs. Let's see how far I can take it.

I'll look forward to it.

Oh, by the way, my rating was 3 star?

Guy-kun wrote: 4kf2h

Oh, by the way, my rating was 3 star?

My bad. I got you confused with this guy:


(just kidding)

I hate it when you do everything right and still lose...
This guy has a point.

awesome~ >w<

Will there be a setting to change the universal offset? I have to hit really early Because of this, I can hit the beats but I get 100s on everything and can't unlock Expert mode T_T

Offset setting will be coming, for sure.

I'm not sure if my review for the game is available since Apple is a secretive ass and/or think my reviews should be redacted from public reading (lol butthurt crapple.), so I'm posting my review here~

sadly, my ipod touch 1g is unable to it T_T"

oh well.

I wonder how popular this is gonna get?

I'm sure it's going to catch like wildfire, and your dreams of taking over the world with beat tapping mayhem will be truly realised.

I have no issues with In-Game Purchases for songs (of course, I now need iTunes credit, but meh), as it s both pepy and the artists who composed the song.

peppy wrote: 73101g

In order to get it prepared I have quit my day job, so it could also be considered a possible source of income. It is also part of my endeavour to try and help smaller artist become more known, and provide them a stream of revenue that can help them create more work in the future, and possibly grow larger.

(...whoa, that's some commitment "^_^ )


Might just leave this here too.

I might give this a try on my iPad... though I guess I won't really get into it since this game doesn't look like it's going to be competitive at any rate.

I don't own any android or apple product but this looks like something my friends are going to show me soon on their iPhones lol.
Best of luck.

Well i already commented on this game on rating (which MAY at some point arrive, but who knows what apple does with my rating again ) and on the osu!stream website, but i'll just say it here again
this is the BEST game i could find for iPad so far, and i tried loads of games xD

p.s.: i had to write my apple-rating on the german site because my iPad didn't want to let me use the english site at this point of time oO

Reading all of peppy's comments makes me sad that I don't have an iPhone/Pad to him with

osu! Stream has been featured on BemaniStyle!!!



:>

Thanks to use Azure_Kyte for the headline.

I secretly tried it out on my brother's iPad for a few minutes, and I can honestly say that this is one of the best iPod/iPad games I've seen in a while. It's something you'd expect to see from a big name developer. Real high quality stuff. It's a shame that my first generation iPod Touch can't play it, though.

I think you should do a forum for the incoming osu!stream community. You're right when you say that osu! and osu!stream are different.But then why do we post in the osu! forum ?

I will setup a discussion board on the stream site in the near future. Currently backlogged too far with higher priority stuff.

Is there plans for any difficulty increasing mods such as Hidden, Doubletime or Hardrock? Just wondering

Yay me reading stuff