z0z wrote: z232j

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Watch Battle for Dream Island..

tried to watch it a while back but honestly I really didn't enjoy the first chapter and it would seem painful to watch the rest

*season

it's not for everyone of course

no I mean I gave up at episode 1

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z

Review Wander Over Yonder

will add to the backlog but that's going to take a whilea at this point, big backlog

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 2mx5n

Review Deltarune

I have alraedy beaten deltarune, so I can do this one rn

I feel that the only way to talk about deltarune is to put in context, this is toby fox second agme, that is a follow up to undertale, one of the must influential games of all time, and so far, deltarune just seems to be more and bigger in every sense

The combat has improved, the plot seems more serious and deep, the alternate route is more darker, the story is more ambitious, the game is 7 times longer, etc.

Not only that but we got to consider that deltarune only happened because it was showed to him in a dream (this is real look it up), and undertale only existed as a proof of concept for deltarune, it promises to be a LOT

so, we know undertale tracked morality. Not only with the spare or kill system, but it also tracks stuff like reloads or if this is your second playthrough, this was the thing that really made undertale blow up as it did

but then, in deltarune, while offering the same options, we get a denial of consequences. When you're expecting the same concepts to apply, sparing or killing have no apparent effect on the ending of the chapters.

However, then we got chapter 2 with the weird route, which is not just activated by kiling everyone, but now you got to mentally maniputale one incredibly likeable character with a tragic backstory into killing everyone which is somehow way fucking worse

Not only that, but the game also plays with a concept that undertale really didn't play, and that is layers of separation and distances

I think the most apparent use of this is jevil, that if you think about it, they are on a cell, inside of a basement, of a castle, of a dark world, of a regular, fantasy world, inside a program, inside a computer, inside the real world and the game makes use of that for storytelling, like lancer not being able to travel between worlds, spamton trying to reach heaven, noelle denying the existance of dark worlds, etc

this is no longer about just breaking the fourth wall, this is about having another fourth wall for the protagonist and then having other character break that wall. Given that deltarune is only 25% released at this point and that things for sure will get crazier near the end, the potential deltarune has is absolutely inmense, and having a concept that could be equally as ground breaking as the original undertale, but given this level of polish and preparation, allow me to be hyped

-Remi wrote: 1r561k

Review Off Topic, do you like the way it is right now, why or why not? What kind of threads make OT more enjoyable for you?

I think people overthink OT, like A LOT, I feel for most of the problems people complain about, it's just stuff that they like to complain about but either dont actually hate it or at least not enough to do anything about it. I'm saying stuff like "OT is dying" or "current thread sucks!!!". I just think that is total BS

however, I will say, since I started on OT I have seen a big shift. I feel a lot more people had less unique posting styles, in fact, most of them shared the same lore-focused, semi-interactive thread. And everything outside that, it would have a lot bigger of a change to get shit on because "it was not effort"

now, it's a lot easier to see how a thread is written and perfectly know who the OP is, people like lostsilver, sametdze, mikey, etc. The is a lot more variety, and some people really put some really big effort into each thread, and there is a lot of people who seem interesting in taking part on each one of them

also, metas seem a lot less frequent, when I started it felt like every other week, and now it's a very rare occurance

I'm my personal opinion, I like the current state of OT, while I do personally think OT isn't dying, I'm my opinion i'm enjoying OT more now than I did in the past, it feels a lot more personal and interesting compared to the lore supremacy of back then

what kind of threads do I enjoy the most?, I do personally engaging al ot in any thread that allows me to be writting for more than 10 seconds or have a disscusion, stuff like the reyalp yume nikki thread, the AYA thread, etc, but those threads are rare, doesn't really do that good, and honestly having too many of them would be bad

so excluding that, I like those competition threads, like the minima speedrunning or the watermelon game, cool to see if anyone actually starts hardcore grinding

and for shitpost threads, AI think the newdweller thread is probably one of the funniest OT threads in recent time, so whatever that type is, I like it

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

z0z wrote: z232j

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Watch Battle for Dream Island..

tried to watch it a while back but honestly I really didn't enjoy the first chapter and it would seem painful to watch the rest

*season

it's not for everyone of course

no I mean I gave up at episode 1

well it was made by 2 preteens at the time
the later released episodes may be of higher quality

since im playing it rn so why not, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey

Left 4 Dead 2?

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

Left 4 Dead 2?

mainly multiplayer thing, not something I can analyze

Cerno wrote: 3h509

since im playing it rn so why not, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey

i'm going to note it but due to it being a very long game it's going to take me a while

also, update, I've just finished the first movie of the hobbit, i'm nearing the end of the manga i'm reading so I will probably start reading nickelodeon today

Okay I have read nickelodeon (the manga)

Nickelodeon is very strange. I personally went fully blind torwards it, and it seemed to be an drama/experimental anthology from what I had read in the first couple chapters, but it ended up being a comedy anthology with reacurring characters

This manga in many ways feels like a very primitive version of city, but with more explicit jokes, shorter arcs for each character, and without an ovearching plot really uniting the manga

comparing it to city, I enjoyed city a lot more, but mainly because I like the comedy style more (city is a manga created by the same mangaka as nichijou, my favourite comedy of all time)

nickelodeon is a manga that shifts a lot tho, because even if most of it does feel like a comedy manga, there are some pretty serious chapters without any apparent jokes, like chapter 1, so it's really a gamble if the next chapter it's supposed to just be weird/depresing or funny, because there is no way to tell really.

Honestly, it's those weirder chapters I have a problem with, because I don't know what their purpouse is, if they have any purpouse, because the story aren't really that groundbreaking from my opinion and the fact that most chapters doesn't really have any consequence on the next, I dont really know what the purpouse of these chapters are, it feels like it just makes the pacing of the jokes worse

this is just a really strange manga that I dont quite understand

Nijihahara Holograph next

also i'm ing assassins creed odyssey rn but my pc may shit itself and die

Can you do research over how to build a parameter in Minecraft when the default method of using dry coral fan is not working (when the server run on paper, it does not work)

Manishh wrote: 4f3g50

Can you do research over how to build a parameter in Minecraft when the default method of using dry coral fan is not working (when the server run on paper, it does not work)

absolutely not






also: updates

assassins creed did not make my computer shit itself, but the game itself doesn't seem to be very good, will continue playing it but i'm seeing myself dropping this game tbh

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Manishh wrote: 4f3g50

Can you do research over how to build a parameter in Minecraft when the default method of using dry coral fan is not working (when the server run on paper, it does not work)

absolutely not






also: updates

assassins creed did not make my computer shit itself, but the game itself doesn't seem to be very good, will continue playing it but i'm seeing myself dropping this game tbh

Played it for a while but couldn't finish, it gets very repetitive

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Manishh wrote: 4f3g50

Can you do research over how to build a parameter in Minecraft when the default method of using dry coral fan is not working (when the server run on paper, it does not work)

absolutely not






also: updates

assassins creed did not make my computer shit itself, but the game itself doesn't seem to be very good, will continue playing it but i'm seeing myself dropping this game tbh

Played it for a while but couldn't finish, it gets very repetitive

ok yeah no I've only played like an hour but i'm already hating the game, i'm not going to subject myself to this



This game just doens't feel like a single player game, it feels like you took a game like destiny 2 and then just made it singleplayer, totally ignoring the fact that the structure of a multiplayer game does not work in a singleplayer one

for example, in most single player games, while they usually have some balance testing and stuff, if something ends up being a little overpowered it doesn't matter, you can choose to just not use it if the game didn't really require it. If you find a way to cheese a boss, the game will usually just hand out the win to you, the game is non-competitive so it doesn't matter if you found a way to cheat

this was my idea of what the game was going to be, so I played like that, however, I felt the game was pushing me back at every single chance it had

oh I obtained a cool item!, cool but you dont have enough experience to use it, you must get to at least x level to use it

I'm confident on my fighting skill, I can take that elite down: wrong, you cant since you're not the adequate level, it's just going to two-shot you

well, I saw that stealth can oneshot enemies, i'm just going to sneak up to them, do this whole section while stealthing, and then just oneshot them: wrong, the attack only really does a certain ammount of damage, so you cant really one-shot enemies with a level higher than yours

the whole thing seems like you're playing a live service multiplayer game, but that's not how a single-player should look, in a multiplayer game, certain choices are made because if not it could ruin the experience for other players, this game is doing those decisions because they thought they were cool

not only that, but this game literally features an option for your horse to travel to quest objectives automatically, and a cash shop, in a single player game

this is the first single player game i've ever played that had a cash shop

i'm just baffled by this game, I haven't played too many AAA games in general, so I really didn't expect an assassins creed to look like that. And the AAA games that I have played are stuff like baldur's gate 3, where if you're skilled enough, you can take on a stronger enemy than you, maybe even use the environment to oneshot it, and then steal all their loot, which has no level requirement associated. Because this is the standard, or at least it should be, not whatever the fuck this game tried

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Manishh wrote: 4f3g50

Can you do research over how to build a parameter in Minecraft when the default method of using dry coral fan is not working (when the server run on paper, it does not work)

absolutely not






also: updates

assassins creed did not make my computer shit itself, but the game itself doesn't seem to be very good, will continue playing it but i'm seeing myself dropping this game tbh

Played it for a while but couldn't finish, it gets very repetitive

ok yeah no I've only played like an hour but i'm already hating the game, i'm not going to subject myself to this



This game just doens't feel like a single player game, it feels like you took a game like destiny 2 and then just made it singleplayer, totally ignoring the fact that the structure of a multiplayer game does not work in a singleplayer one

for example, in most single player games, while they usually have some balance testing and stuff, if something ends up being a little overpowered it doesn't matter, you can choose to just not use it if the game didn't really require it. If you find a way to cheese a boss, the game will usually just hand out the win to you, the game is non-competitive so it doesn't matter if you found a way to cheat

this was my idea of what the game was going to be, so I played like that, however, I felt the game was pushing me back at every single chance it had

oh I obtained a cool item!, cool but you dont have enough experience to use it, you must get to at least x level to use it

I'm confident on my fighting skill, I can take that elite down: wrong, you cant since you're not the adequate level, it's just going to two-shot you

well, I saw that stealth can oneshot enemies, i'm just going to sneak up to them, do this whole section while stealthing, and then just oneshot them: wrong, the attack only really does a certain ammount of damage, so you cant really one-shot enemies with a level higher than yours

the whole thing seems like you're playing a live service multiplayer game, but that's not how a single-player should look, in a multiplayer game, certain choices are made because if not it could ruin the experience for other players, this game is doing those decisions because they thought they were cool

not only that, but this game literally features an option for your horse to travel to quest objectives automatically, and a cash shop, in a single player game

this is the first single player game i've ever played that had a cash shop

i'm just baffled by this game, I haven't played too many AAA games in general, so I really didn't expect an assassins creed to look like that. And the AAA games that I have played are stuff like baldur's gate 3, where if you're skilled enough, you can take on a stronger enemy than you, maybe even use the environment to oneshot it, and then steal all their loot, which has no level requirement associated. Because this is the standard, or at least it should be, not whatever the fuck this game tried

Yeah, there's also this whole thing with named fighters you can kill to rank up, would make sense in a pvp game but is kinda useless in a single player, you can entirely ignore it as far as I know
Also having all gear stats be linked only to level makes all legendaries obsolete as soon as you level up and pick up even lowest tier gear
It's kinda sad, I'd love a good action/adventure game in ancient Greece (other than old God of War), it's almost endless copyright free content you can use any way you want and pretty much everyone is at least somewhat familiar with it (especially since Hades), how is there not a good AAA game like that?

What about Silent Voice?

sad ;(

the game ib please

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

What about Silent Voice?

that's a good one, of the movies I initially watched when I was getting into anime and I still really love it to this day

A silent voice is a romance drama anime movie, you could probably group it in the same category as stuff like I want to eat your pancreas (which is also an amazing movie).

The plotisn't too surprising if you've seen this type of movie before, protagonist is fucking depressed, meets girl, guy and girl improves their life thanks to their relationship, it's more complex than that of course but htat's the idea, in this case, the girl she ends up liking was a girl she used to bully because she was mute, and what used to be their classmates resent him for it

Our protagonist is completely and fully aware that they resent him, and just doesn't want top interact with anyone for that reason, even if they dont know them, they're still too scared to talk, the way this is showcased in the movie is by crossing out the faces of everyone else

and while they dont explicitely tell you what the crossed faces mean, or that he sees everyone under that same light, the spectator understands this perfectly, you learn about the situation and then you can extrapolate all that information, allowing for a lot more character development with only a few extra seconds of runtime

in that sense it reminds me of Ping Pong, they dont tell you how the protagonist got into ping pong, but by reading it, you just know. I love this style of storytelling

not only that, but this way of telling the story not onl makes you enjoy the plot more, because if they just told you all that stuff from the stuff, you would enjoy it a lot less than just discovering and understanding it yourself, and being proud of yourself for doing so

it's also a lot more ambiguous than a written sentence, so it really does help to illustrate this very ambiguous and complex feelings

and while the movie advances, he gains confidence and forgives himself for their past acts, he starts losing the crossed out faces, being more open, and finally being able to really push their life forward

our female MC also has a lot of developement too, mainly, the misscomunication that constantly happens during the movie, of having her friends who stil resent the guy try to constantly read her mind and talk for her, even if she didn't feel that way at all

however, she has lived her entire life like that, she's kinda used to it already, and again, by seeing the movie you understand this fact, even if no one had to explicitily tell you

I absolutely love this movie, it has a lot to say about disabilty and depression, and it does it in this beautifully artistic way that is honestly needed to be able to portray these types of complex feeling. It's just wonderful. I giving it a 10 in myanimelist

----

179bpm wrote: i2b3t

the game ib please

i'm not touching horror sorry, I don't enjoy getting scared

Is this still open for request because i think i have a few mangas i think are fun

NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o

Is this still open for request because i think i have a few mangas i think are fun

yes, still open, will still be open for a long while

Alright here, just do it in any order:

Kagurabacchi (genuinely curious of your opinion) [4 chapter]

Shimotsuki-san wa Mob ga Suki (ongoing one-shot i think) [8 chapter]

Reincarnation no Kaben (one of my personal favourite for some reason, ongoing) [69 chapter]

Billy Bat (i haven't finished it myself, but it's pretty confusing, you don't have to do this one if you don't want to, it is pretty long) [165 chapter]

You know, I regret posting here. The thing I asked for will probably never get done.

NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o

Alright here, just do it in any order:

Kagurabacchi (genuinely curious of your opinion) [4 chapter]

Shimotsuki-san wa Mob ga Suki (ongoing one-shot i think) [8 chapter]

Reincarnation no Kaben (one of my personal favourite for some reason, ongoing) [69 chapter]

Billy Bat (i haven't finished it myself, but it's pretty confusing, you don't have to do this one if you don't want to, it is pretty long) [165 chapter]

i've already read kagurabachi

since then more chapters were released, they're currently on chapter 3 with the 4th one leaked, i've read them and idk, it's alright, there is nothing I can really point out that say it's good, and I don't know if I like the direction, like, they didn't even make the protagonist good, he's just strong because their katana is strong, and so far there is nothing of character development or plot and just fights, just not my jam

rest haven't read, billy bat was on my p2r list tho, I really enjoyed 20th century boys, in fact, it's one of my favourite mangas

KatouMegumi wrote: 3j2041

You know, I regret posting here. The thing I asked for will probably never get done.

no harm in suggesting

Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE

Nijigahara Holograph analysis



I HATE asano inio


thanks for reading




ok but actually, I just dont get this mangaka, i've read four mangas of them (Oyasumi punpun, dead dead demons dedededestruction, subarashii sekai and now this one), and I have to say, I hated all four of those

asano inio has this writting style where the plot is just pure unfiltered nihilism, and I feel you're only really going to enjoy their mangas if you already agree with that philosopohical viewpoint, because he doesn't really put any effort into actually making you care if not

for example, this manga, which is one volume long, the protagonist starts being a complete asshole for not good reason, and I feel the manga expects me to still care about this character and t osee their cool little growth, but due to the fact that I hate about the character from the fourth , I just dont care, i'm just wishing for divine retribution and for the character to be punished for their actions, something that doesn't really happen in this manga, but, insteaad, their actions are weirdly rewarded

I feel that is by far my biggest problem with this mangaka, that is the reason why I also disliked punpun, I just didn't care about punpun at all, the story was made to be so nihilistic that I just couldn't even care about the manga itself

another quirk of their writting, is in fact, that it's just bordering on torture porn, like actually, we did NOT need a rape scene in punpun, and the end of this manga just borders in the same imaginery, even if that was just an hallucination

the story is not particulary deep or interesting either. It's not bringing anything new to the table and it's not really a noteworthy story, which was mainly my problem with subarashii sekai, while it does look like it would be deep, it really isn't

however, I have to say, most of these problems were adressed in dead dead demons dedededestruction


... at least the first half of it

because yeah, it starts strong. It's a story of an alien invation from the perspective of someone normal and society at large, not a story focusing on the heroes that would save the world or anything, which is a story I like. The characters are actually likeable, and the nihilistic point of view actually makes the manga better

but starting the second half, I feel that vision of an alien invasion from the eyes of someone normal is lost, as the story gets more complicated for some reason, culminating on the worst ending i've ever seen to a manga

I just dont get this mangaka, and honestly this is probably the weakest manga from all of the ones i've read from him, I'm actually interesting in hearing any positive opinion on this because I don't get what there is to like here

---

Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67

Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE

I don't own a switch, I will have to see if a friend legally decides to lend me their switch on their legitimate bough physical copy of the game at hand, will add to the list tho

--

also: update, I've just finished the second hobbit movie, moving on to the last

Battle for Circle

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Battle for Circle

I just watched the first 3 episodes due to them being like 1 minute long but this is just a joke of everyone being called circle for 14 chapter and nothing more, not really something I can analyze as it's just a simple yt shitpost

Alright you potatohead... -.-


ONE

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Alright you potatohead... -.-


ONE

watched the first chapter, this is just a funny silly youtube series about a game show, no real topic or anything I can really analyze since it's not particulary deep or original, there isn't even really a script set ahead of time since it's comment vote out people

edit: also, just to clarify, there are youtube videos that are worth analyzing that can in fact be as deep as a regular movie, just not animated game shows, or game shows in general. I'm not just saying my opinion and saying if you sohuld watch something or not, i'm trying to look at the themes, at the elements in a certain piece of media and why I enjoy them or why I dont, or what do I think the author was trying to do and how well did they achieve it. Or even with the train stuff that was submited earlier, look at actual real life events and stuff and the consequences they had in the world. you can read my previous stuff and see all of that

._.

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

What about Silent Voice?

that's a good one, of the movies I initially watched when I was getting into anime and I still really love it to this day

Agreed. Simple plot and premise but excellent execution. The moment of Shouya in the end makes me cry in the cinema, seeing how the guy fully redeem himself and let go from his troubled past. I think everyone should watch it. It will change an aspect of your life.

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

What about Silent Voice?

that's a good one, of the movies I initially watched when I was getting into anime and I still really love it to this day

Agreed. Simple plot and premise but excellent execution. The moment of Shouya in the end makes me cry in the cinema, seeing how the guy fully redeem himself and let go from his troubled past. I think everyone should watch it. It will change an aspect of your life.

I dont have the courage to go watch one of these animes in the cinema haha, it did make me cry too when I watched initially

Review Nabokov's 'Pale Fire', it's a funny book, one of my favourites

please review minecraft

Kudou Chitose wrote: 4o3s1p

Review Nabokov's 'Pale Fire', it's a funny book, one of my favourites

will add, but due to it being a book, it will take a me a very long time to read, and actually get to

Farfocele wrote: 2y4v31

please review minecraft

open sandbox, do whatever, not something I can really analyze

I just need things with plot or relevant themes

thats more or less the rection i was expcting lmao

Reyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Nijigahara Holograph analysis



I HATE asano inio


thanks for reading




ok but actually, I just dont get this mangaka, i've read four mangas of them (Oyasumi punpun, dead dead demons dedededestruction, subarashii sekai and now this one), and I have to say, I hated all four of those

asano inio has this writting style where the plot is just pure unfiltered nihilism, and I feel you're only really going to enjoy their mangas if you already agree with that philosopohical viewpoint, because he doesn't really put any effort into actually making you care if not

for example, this manga, which is one volume long, the protagonist starts being a complete asshole for not good reason, and I feel the manga expects me to still care about this character and t osee their cool little growth, but due to the fact that I hate about the character from the fourth , I just dont care, i'm just wishing for divine retribution and for the character to be punished for their actions, something that doesn't really happen in this manga, but, insteaad, their actions are weirdly rewarded

I feel that is by far my biggest problem with this mangaka, that is the reason why I also disliked punpun, I just didn't care about punpun at all, the story was made to be so nihilistic that I just couldn't even care about the manga itself

another quirk of their writting, is in fact, that it's just bordering on torture porn, like actually, we did NOT need a rape scene in punpun, and the end of this manga just borders in the same imaginery, even if that was just an hallucination

the story is not particulary deep or interesting either. It's not bringing anything new to the table and it's not really a noteworthy story, which was mainly my problem with subarashii sekai, while it does look like it would be deep, it really isn't

however, I have to say, most of these problems were adressed in dead dead demons dedededestruction


... at least the first half of it

because yeah, it starts strong. It's a story of an alien invation from the perspective of someone normal and society at large, not a story focusing on the heroes that would save the world or anything, which is a story I like. The characters are actually likeable, and the nihilistic point of view actually makes the manga better

but starting the second half, I feel that vision of an alien invasion from the eyes of someone normal is lost, as the story gets more complicated for some reason, culminating on the worst ending i've ever seen to a manga

I just dont get this mangaka, and honestly this is probably the weakest manga from all of the ones i've read from him, I'm actually interesting in hearing any positive opinion on this because I don't get what there is to like here

---

Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67

Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE

I don't own a switch, I will have to see if a friend legally decides to lend me their switch on their legitimate bough physical copy of the game at hand, will add to the list tho

--

also: update, I've just finished the second hobbit movie, moving on to the last

thats more or less the rection i was expcting lmao

did you not enjoy the manga yourself?

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Reyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Nijigahara Holograph analysis



I HATE asano inio


thanks for reading




ok but actually, I just dont get this mangaka, i've read four mangas of them (Oyasumi punpun, dead dead demons dedededestruction, subarashii sekai and now this one), and I have to say, I hated all four of those

asano inio has this writting style where the plot is just pure unfiltered nihilism, and I feel you're only really going to enjoy their mangas if you already agree with that philosopohical viewpoint, because he doesn't really put any effort into actually making you care if not

for example, this manga, which is one volume long, the protagonist starts being a complete asshole for not good reason, and I feel the manga expects me to still care about this character and t osee their cool little growth, but due to the fact that I hate about the character from the fourth , I just dont care, i'm just wishing for divine retribution and for the character to be punished for their actions, something that doesn't really happen in this manga, but, insteaad, their actions are weirdly rewarded

I feel that is by far my biggest problem with this mangaka, that is the reason why I also disliked punpun, I just didn't care about punpun at all, the story was made to be so nihilistic that I just couldn't even care about the manga itself

another quirk of their writting, is in fact, that it's just bordering on torture porn, like actually, we did NOT need a rape scene in punpun, and the end of this manga just borders in the same imaginery, even if that was just an hallucination

the story is not particulary deep or interesting either. It's not bringing anything new to the table and it's not really a noteworthy story, which was mainly my problem with subarashii sekai, while it does look like it would be deep, it really isn't

however, I have to say, most of these problems were adressed in dead dead demons dedededestruction


... at least the first half of it

because yeah, it starts strong. It's a story of an alien invation from the perspective of someone normal and society at large, not a story focusing on the heroes that would save the world or anything, which is a story I like. The characters are actually likeable, and the nihilistic point of view actually makes the manga better

but starting the second half, I feel that vision of an alien invasion from the eyes of someone normal is lost, as the story gets more complicated for some reason, culminating on the worst ending i've ever seen to a manga

I just dont get this mangaka, and honestly this is probably the weakest manga from all of the ones i've read from him, I'm actually interesting in hearing any positive opinion on this because I don't get what there is to like here

---

Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67

Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE

I don't own a switch, I will have to see if a friend legally decides to lend me their switch on their legitimate bough physical copy of the game at hand, will add to the list tho

--

also: update, I've just finished the second hobbit movie, moving on to the last

thats more or less the rection i was expcting lmao

did you not enjoy the manga yourself?

i didnt finish it :/

can you ANALyze me?

Yeah let's analyze Scyla's SEXY OT threads! O_OÖO-_oO__OO_O_O_oO__O

hobbit analysis:

this is a prequel to the lord of the rings, I think everyone knows that far, it's supposed to be lower stakes than LOTR, so it's not like everyone is going to die or anything, in fact, the start of the films seems to set us up for a more slice of life-ish adventure, of how this random guy got drafted in, and changed as a person due to the adventure that followed

the hobbit is by all means a pretty good trilogy, same for LOTR, but honestly it's weighted down by the fact that they were so succesfull that every fantasy story from there on will take inspiration from tolkien

that's really my only complain raelly, it's just, the standard of medieval fantasy with blacksmithing dwarves, elf archers and big fire breathing dragons is just too common for it to really be mind-blowing, and while I do know that this existed WAY before LOTR, I feel that the success of those movies pushed the genre to be even bigger

the hobbit is also not really something to enjoy standalone, it's something for if you do like LOTR to know more about the characters and middle earth, it's still a pretty good fantasy story, but you're not really going to miss out on much if you didn't really like LOTR beforehand

however, it's true that the movies are incredibly high quality, the actors are good, the cinematography is good, there really isn't anything bad about it, it's just so successful that you're not really going to be surprised or amazed at anything it you watch it in the current year

nothing more I have to say about it really

texhnolyze next

Shimotsuki-san wa Mob ga Suki: Hitomishiri na Kanojo wa Ore ni dake Dere Amai (manga) analysis:


not too much I have to say

romcon that just started recently, seems that it still has a little bit more to go. You said this was an one-shot but seeing as the LN is still ongoing I doubt so, kinda similar to kagurabachi in the sense it's too early to really analyze it

protagonist seems alright, don't really agree with their ideas but I get where he is coming from, there hasn't really been much revealed out of the female mc other than they're shy

just have to wait and see IG, but so far, these first chapters were just alright

Reincarnation no Kaben next

Scyla wrote: 1b4am

can you ANALyze me?

O_O

update: not doing reincarnation no kabe, read the first volume, this is clearly not my thing, this is not something I enjoy, so i'm just going to skip it, sorry

billy bat next

How do you have so much free time?

If you like puzzle games: Antichamber and Manifold Garden, also DeadCore (fps platformer but with some puzzle elements)
They are pretty short (<10 hours)

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

How do you have so much free time?

If you like puzzle games: Antichamber and Manifold Garden, also DeadCore (fps platformer but with some puzzle elements)
They are pretty short (<10 hours)

irl shit happened and I have some unfortunately free time

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Glad you liked it, it's a hit or miss
I seeing the first episode and the only dialogue comes after like 15 mintues and is a guy on the phone but you only hear what he says, no idea who he's talking to or even what they're talking about

People don't like anime etc. that require them to think, but they still watch stuff like that then complain (average MAL reviewer lol)

Gilgamesh is another anime with a similar weird vibe but not nearly as abstract

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Glad you liked it, it's a hit or miss
I seeing the first episode and the only dialogue comes after like 15 mintues and is a guy on the phone but you only hear what he says, no idea who he's talking to or even what they're talking about

People don't like anime etc. that require them to think, but they still watch stuff like that then complain (average MAL reviewer lol)

Gilgamesh is another anime with a similar weird vibe but not nearly as abstract

In general, ABe's anime are slow and abstract to some degree so yeah, that was to be expected.

Review the whole OT!Book community/forums/topics/1718752

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 2mx5n

Review the whole OT!Book community/forums/topics/1718752

Are you trying to kill this thread?

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 2mx5n

Review the whole OT!Book community/forums/topics/1718752

I'm already lamenting over my suggestion of a 40 hour visual novel getting placed in a separate queue until a normal queue ends (that gets filled at rate higher that it's being cleared)

KatouMegumi wrote: 3j2041

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 2mx5n

Review the whole OT!Book community/forums/topics/1718752

I'm already lamenting over my suggestion of a 40 hour visual novel getting placed in a separate queue until a normal queue ends (that gets filled at rate higher that it's being cleared)

yeah stuff that long is going to make me not actually take other requests for a long time, so i'm prioritizing other stuff first, as I said earlier, I may still do it eventually, so no harm in suggesting

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Glad you liked it, it's a hit or miss
I seeing the first episode and the only dialogue comes after like 15 mintues and is a guy on the phone but you only hear what he says, no idea who he's talking to or even what they're talking about

People don't like anime etc. that require them to think, but they still watch stuff like that then complain (average MAL reviewer lol)

Gilgamesh is another anime with a similar weird vibe but not nearly as abstract

do you want me to also watch gilgamesh?

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Glad you liked it, it's a hit or miss
I seeing the first episode and the only dialogue comes after like 15 mintues and is a guy on the phone but you only hear what he says, no idea who he's talking to or even what they're talking about

People don't like anime etc. that require them to think, but they still watch stuff like that then complain (average MAL reviewer lol)

Gilgamesh is another anime with a similar weird vibe but not nearly as abstract

do you want me to also watch gilgamesh?

If you enjoyed texhnolyze you might like it too so yeah if you want

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Karmine wrote: 4x3m25

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

Finished texhnolyze: I have a lot to say about this anime, and half of it isn't even about the anime

this is a weird AF anime, it's an extremely slow anime, with confusing storytelling and almost no sound, and I mean that there are like moments in the anime that's basically just a black screen with no sound for like 5 seconds.

To be fair, in the second half of the anime, they start adding more dialogue, since they start focusing mroe on the plot but yeah, if you dont enjoy the first chapters you're not enjoying the end even with that slight change on style.

with this type of anime I think everyone has their own interpretation, so i'm going to explain my entire thought process of why I think the way I do about texhnolyze

first of all, we got to see why the decision to barely have any dialogue or even images at point really do for the anime, to be fair, if you wanted to write a story about the afterlife and not really being quite human that sort of stuff you would just write something like haibane renmei, but this is drastically different to that.

Silence is not a good option for telling a plot, since when you're talking about complex concepts, like texhnolyzation or any other very specific and precise details, you must use words, you cant really explain world history properly without really using a single word.

the one thing that's actually better understood without saying a word are personalities, how someone acts. It's better to actually see that person in action than just hearing about it. If you realize that the anime is extremely silent (which you will), you're going to start focusing more on every detail that you have access too, and that includes how a character acts.

this anime is all about that, seeing how people reject and embrace the post-humanistic ideas, how they deal with being able to see a possible future or how they deal confronted with death, if you look at the anime with that lens, and stop really trying to fully understand the plot I think you will see it a lot more clearly

this is reinforced by the fact that it is an anime original, there was no source material for this. When creating an anime original you take full advantage of the medium, a lot of the time betters than a adaptation from a manga, and allowing to determine how long each shot lasts does improve the experience of this anime.

the actual anime is pretty interesting, I think all the characters are very interesting and the locations and plot really reinforce and create situations where they flourish a lot.


----- (starting this part I start derailing to something entirely else so yeah, my actual analysis of the anime itself ends here) ---


However, I suspected one thing. This wasn't about the anime itself, I've already said all that I wanted to say about the anime, but more about the reception and seeing why other people enjoyed or disliked this anime

and that is, because I know how the internet acts, and I know that my opinion on this anime would be in the minority

Currently, on the internet, every disscussion on any film, anime, book, manga, or even colaborative project will end up in the same way. The internet wants to see an explanation for EVERYTHING, the work doesn't even have to be abstract for this to really happen. I saw it happen with lain, and I feared it happening the same with this anime

I feel the biggest current example of this are in fact, the backrooms. One guy did a short horror story, and then people started to go, but wait... where does x come from? where do you from here? eternally, and you now currently have something closer to S than you did to the original work

A similar thing happened with lain, it had a lot of elements that also mainly work to make it a more character focused story, however, look into any disscusion of lain, and everyone is praising how complex the plot is, even if lain really doesn't have that much plot (and honestly isn't really that good IMO)

and you here had a similar recipe, abstract anime that mainly focused on the characters with barely any dialoge. So I looked into it, and I was right.

Most of the negative reviews i've seen on this anime is that the anime was too slow "for no reason at all" and that you could not understand the plot properly, and i've also seen some other analysis trying to completely decypher and explain the plot. To be fair I did find a lot of people talking similar stuff to me. But I realy think that just going with that mentality is going to cause you to enjoy some works a whole lot less, and I think this is one of those examples

so yeah, good anime, but to embrace the abstract and confusing aspects of it rather than trying to overexplaining it to really enjoy it (at least in my personal opinion)


----

also updates: i'm halfway through billy bat (really enjoying it)
going to watch utena next

Glad you liked it, it's a hit or miss
I seeing the first episode and the only dialogue comes after like 15 mintues and is a guy on the phone but you only hear what he says, no idea who he's talking to or even what they're talking about

People don't like anime etc. that require them to think, but they still watch stuff like that then complain (average MAL reviewer lol)

Gilgamesh is another anime with a similar weird vibe but not nearly as abstract

do you want me to also watch gilgamesh?

If you enjoyed texhnolyze you might like it too so yeah if you want

yeah will note it

another one : What about Made in Abyss?

Nanofranne wrote: 2o173r

another one : What about Made in Abyss?

I'm very biased in favour of made in abyss, since it was the first anime I read that I went "I get it" and decided to watch more anime in my own spare time after that, as that was a friends recommendation. In a way, this is the anime that got me into anime

made in abyss is an incredibly good anime which only problem being the fetishes the author has. The concept of the abyss is brilliant, originally being 6 locations, with a 7th theorized one, with it's own aesthetic, rules, flora and fauna, and other weird stuff

there is also the catch that the lower you delve into the abyss, the harder it is to go back up, going lower than the sixth means instant death. This translates into the first few layers being fairly well studied but then being more and more mistery the lower you go.

The anime does start seeming like it's a SoL adventure thing, only going down to the abyss after a fairly long overground segment, which seems to set the tone of the anime, however, while the first layers are fairly cool, the lower they go, the more fucked up the anime gets

so, the abyss structure is giving us a clear picture of what the author wants us to think of made in abyss when you start watching it, but purposely goes scaling up the things slowly, giving space for character developement in the way of the relationship between them and also their survival skills in the abyss. This also sets up a lot of mistery that will be relevant until the end of the anime since chapter 1

the abyss itself is also something that works best in this medium, as if this was just a regular film, doing these sorts of complex environment would be EXTREMELY difficult if not. The artistic decision is also great, using great colors all around, and the decision of having less light in the bottoms of the abyss leads to the lower environment seeming more hostile, fitting the theme of the anime

I feel made in abyss is one of the animes with the best world-building really. Nothing about the world seems cheap or just like a plot device, everything from the zones, the specific creatures, the relics, has multiple purpouses each for the plot, and their simple existance just teases up things from very very early on

for the actual characters, I have less to say, they're just very well written characters all-around, they allow for the story to be funny, to be sad, to have moments of fear, etc, and while I cant really say anything excepcional about them, I cant really ask for a more fitting character

(next sections are just full spoilers)

now, the flow of the anime itself is just wonderful, first, they show all the characters and make you have an emotional connection to them, they show nanachi at the same time as mitty, giving nanachi a lot of character developement really quickly, and allowing it to be a favourite character of many from the first arc with them, even if they had a lot of less screentime all around

not only that, but with mitty you're setting up bondrewd, what regs beam is capable of, and the concept of the soul. With bondrewd they expand on the soul and really make you care about it with prushka, and also sets up a lot of thing about white whistles

with the concept of value of the 6th layer you're using it all, mitty even makes an appearance back again to really showcase all of this, and I just love the concept of value. It allows to show the inner thinking of each character in such a detailed way. Each plot point in made in abyss is: setting up stuff for the future, using set up from a while ago, being emotionally impactful, and leading to more character developement in a way that feels natural, it's just nearly flawless

really, the only problem is that they show a lot of child characters in some weird scenes and poses, which can be pretty uncomfortable at times


the OST is also superb, as it s the atmosphere it's trying to achieve, and the songs itself are also beautiful

so yeah, made in abyss has an amazing plot, amazing characters, amazing world-building and music that takes advantage of the medium, it has it all.


------------------------------------------------------------------------


i've also finished reading billy bat, and i've got to say, i'm analyzing two masterpieces in this one post, as billy bat was an unexpected 10/10 from me

I really like naoki urasawa, I hav read monster, pluto, and 20th/21st century boys, being this later one of my favourite mangas of all time, so yeah, I went into this with high expectations, and holy fuck it did deliver

Billy bat feels in a lot of way very similar to 20th century boys and for good reason, it shares the setting, some of the locations, the symbolism that was used to push the story forward, the story structure with all of the constant time skips and flash backs, and it takes all of these elements for making a story that feels entirely different

billy bat, just like 20th century boys is a VERY dense manga, there isn't a single filler line of dialogue in the entire manga, and near the end, I feel you run out of breath as it ramps up to have plot twist after plot twist after plot twist

the plot follows this american comic writter, who works in "marble" comics, (not particullary subtle), and is doing a comic about a bat that solves crimes and saves the day, the comic is a success, but someone tells him that he had seen a similar character in japan before, and that it was probable that they also saw it and subconciously stole it

so they try to go to japan, and then shit happens, like, a lot of shit, the main point is that he can see the character billy bat going out of the pages and instructing them, giving them also inspiration to keep drawing, it's also worth mentioning that these comic chapters predicts the future

at the start of a lot of manga chapters you can see a few pages of the actual billy bat comic that it was drawn in the story, having a totally different art-style and more commonly than not, having color

these little bits of the comic are vital to understand the manga, as it has many, many characters and doesn't really focuses on a single one without any interruption, however, the global narrative aids you to understasnding how a character feels torward an event, what a logical response may be, what that characters means for the plot, and other sort of things

there are many side characters that only really appear once or twice, and for those characters the manga does something very smart. Almost every one-off character is based on a real world person, that way they can afford to introduce a character with so little screen time that the audience totally gets. If the manga shows you, I don't know, jesus christ, you know who that character is, allowing the story to keep the flow and without having to really explain many things

to be fair, I don't think I can really explain a lot of the plot itself and take much out of it, and that is because it's just SO FUCKING COMPLEX, really, I had almost never seen a story so complicated in structure while still being pretty understandable, with shows like texhnolyze there are few main elements that you can go "yeah that is uncommon but I can see what the author is trying to pull". However, with billy bat, there are 45 of those elements it honestly just sures the skills I have to really communicate properly in this type of thing

urasawa naoki is just one of the most skilled mangaka/director/writter person i've seen, as doing something of this magnitude just seems unreal

for example, let's take the ending, which is one of the parts that blew me away the most

you know pulp fiction right?, how at the start of the movie they show an event that will happen on the end of the movie, allowing for the audience to understand the characters and also set one thing in the future, in fact, the whole movie is based around tha tidea of achronological story-telling

billy bat had a similar idea, but they took it to the next level

the first scene does happen again in the end, however, the way it's done is totally different, as it is less giving you new information (how the heist for pulp fiction ended), but more like giving you slightly more context for the situation, nothing after the scenes of the start of the manga, but before. The end is not giving you any new information, but giving you more ground for the start of it

however, that extra concept, and the way it almost loops somehow works, as you can now see that start with all the information you've learned across the manga, and you realize, the end of the manga, was already showcased at the start, you just didn't understand it the first time

that is such an INSANE concept, I love it

and the whole manga is full of moments like that, in order to properly go across everything I think it's worth noting I would have to make this post 7 times longer and I just dont think I can do that, you're just going to have to trust me on this one that it's good. I'm surprised that this manga went as undernoticed as it did outside japan, because yeah, this is just god tier



----

next: ...suprisingly the ot!book, no mangas left so time to read books, this is the shortest one of all the vn and books rn so it will be the one I do first



also, i'm sorry for just not being able to give the best analysis for billy bat, it unironically is just too complex and I would have to re-read and write a chapter by chapter analysis like I did with shimeji to really know what to say

Wait what if you rate each chapter from the OT! Book?

Like rate all of the chapters from worst to best...

Mine should land somewhere somewhere below the mid or something idk... =P

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Wait what if you rate each chapter from the OT! Book?

Like rate all of the chapters from worst to best...

Mine should land somewhere somewhere below the mid or something idk... =P

I'm thinking of do rating each chapter individually, or at least every from the same s individually, since the advice and criticism I can give to someone are not the same as I can give to another person, I still have to see how I will do it

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Wait what if you rate each chapter from the OT! Book?

Like rate all of the chapters from worst to best...

Mine should land somewhere somewhere below the mid or something idk... =P

I'm thinking of do rating each chapter individually, or at least every from the same s individually, since the advice and criticism I can give to someone are not the same as I can give to another person, I still have to see how I will do it

tbh would be interesting to get for each author

I am so freaking hyped for my request

well, I caught up with the OT!book and analyzed it

here are my chapter per chapter notes, however they're less in depth than what i'm going to write on here

honestly, this is an above average work for the skill level of writting that we're working with, like, i've read a lot of fanfics that are infinitely worse, and the number of fanfics/original stories of non very experienced writters that I prefeered over this one were small

however, there is one BIG problem that really kills a lot of scenes in the book, and that is the pacing

the thing with allowing everyone to create a character and and write a chapter is that for example at the start, there are 80 pages of pure character introduction, so it kinda gets boring after the 15th chapter introducing characters, also, when there is an actually good plot thread going on, having 2 chapters following a totally different thread kills the pacing of the first one. So things like the action scenes that you're trying to pull near the latest chapters falls a little bit flat. You can still write a good book with this setup, but I just dont think action/drama works

now, another problem that is less general to the actual story structure, is actually something that I already ranted about in my texhnolyze review

the general problem that happens when the internet tries to write anything, you end with too much lore

everything must be explained and showed to the reader, you must have a map, names for each location, story for each part, in depth lore for each character, etc.

When you're watching a movie or reading a book that is normally considered to be of very high quality, there really aren't segments where they just dump a shitload of lore in a flashback about the protagonist after the character was introduced for the first time, yet here it happens constantly. You spend like 30 chapters introducing lore for everything and setting shit up but most of the plot points that ends up happening doesn't take advantage of any of that, with one major exception, chapters 17, 28, and 29

you dont need to understand 100% of the world if you're only going to use 20% of it for the plot

the arika/robotic club plotline is actually really really good compared to the rest of the book, and is BY FAR the best part of the book. The concept of a character that just makes drone to explore and do experiments takes full advantage of everything set up, it takes advantage of the concept of the crumbling world, it actually ties well with the other club which was already set up before and allows for a chapter in the future where they actually do a partnership. The end of the chapters usually do set up things that ends up being on use, the writting style is solid. Due to it not being action it does not suffer from that problem I mentioned before

problem is, the best plotline in the book only has 3 chapters

the main arc of the book is this other side/fantasy monster/action plot, which again, the action doesn't really work. The concept of the other side was cool, this distorted land with all the colors reversed and stuff, that's cool, but you just dont take advantage of it. It's just shown and then not really used for anything

I don't really know where that main plot is going, even if it's the one that has had the most screen-time I don't know what the end goal for it would be, but honestly seeing how the structure and how everything is set up, I understnad the book is going to go as far as it can until the thread dies, which doesn't seem to be soon

more weird and specific details are on the documment I shared

i'm also using this post as my pitch for becoming an editor for the book. I think a lot of the earlier stuff cant really be fixed without rewritting, something that I know isn't really going to happen, but I think you can still take this to a good direction if the book goes for long enough

------ updates -------

started revolutionary girl utena, watched first 4 chapters, I like it, I was almost all day outside yesterday so I didn't really watch anything yesterday

next on the list: hapymaher, kayou seemed like a bit sad that it fell so long, so i'm going to prioritize this one

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

well, I caught up with the OT!book and analyzed it

here are my chapter per chapter notes, however they're less in depth than what i'm going to write on here

honestly, this is an above average work for the skill level of writting that we're working with, like, i've read a lot of fanfics that are infinitely worse, and the number of fanfics/original stories of non very experienced writters that I prefeered over this one were small

however, there is one BIG problem that really kills a lot of scenes in the book, and that is the pacing

the thing with allowing everyone to create a character and and write a chapter is that for example at the start, there are 80 pages of pure character introduction, so it kinda gets boring after the 15th chapter introducing characters, also, when there is an actually good plot thread going on, having 2 chapters following a totally different thread kills the pacing of the first one. So things like the action scenes that you're trying to pull near the latest chapters falls a little bit flat. You can still write a good book with this setup, but I just dont think action/drama works

now, another problem that is less general to the actual story structure, is actually something that I already ranted about in my texhnolyze review

the general problem that happens when the internet tries to write anything, you end with too much lore

everything must be explained and showed to the reader, you must have a map, names for each location, story for each part, in depth lore for each character, etc.

When you're watching a movie or reading a book that is normally considered to be of very high quality, there really aren't segments where they just dump a shitload of lore in a flashback about the protagonist after the character was introduced for the first time, yet here it happens constantly. You spend like 30 chapters introducing lore for everything and setting shit up but most of the plot points that ends up happening doesn't take advantage of any of that, with one major exception, chapters 17, 28, and 29

you dont need to understand 100% of the world if you're only going to use 20% of it for the plot

the arika/robotic club plotline is actually really really good compared to the rest of the book, and is BY FAR the best part of the book. The concept of a character that just makes drone to explore and do experiments takes full advantage of everything set up, it takes advantage of the concept of the crumbling world, it actually ties well with the other club which was already set up before and allows for a chapter in the future where they actually do a partnership. The end of the chapters usually do set up things that ends up being on use, the writting style is solid. Due to it not being action it does not suffer from that problem I mentioned before

problem is, the best plotline in the book only has 3 chapters

the main arc of the book is this other side/fantasy monster/action plot, which again, the action doesn't really work. The concept of the other side was cool, this distorted land with all the colors reversed and stuff, that's cool, but you just dont take advantage of it. It's just shown and then not really used for anything

I don't really know where that main plot is going, even if it's the one that has had the most screen-time I don't know what the end goal for it would be, but honestly seeing how the structure and how everything is set up, I understnad the book is going to go as far as it can until the thread dies, which doesn't seem to be soon

more weird and specific details are on the documment I shared

i'm also using this post as my pitch for becoming an editor for the book. I think a lot of the earlier stuff cant really be fixed without rewritting, something that I know isn't really going to happen, but I think you can still take this to a good direction if the book goes for long enough

------ updates -------

started revolutionary girl utena, watched first 4 chapters, I like it, I was almost all day outside yesterday so I didn't really watch anything yesterday

next on the list: hapymaher, kayou seemed like a bit sad that it fell so long, so i'm going to prioritize this one

bruh sortry i can't deal with this now i'm still processing the new pp record

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

------ updates -------

started revolutionary girl utena, watched first 4 chapters, I like it, I was almost all day outside yesterday so I didn't really watch anything yesterday

next on the list: hapymaher, kayou seemed like a bit sad that it fell so long, so i'm going to prioritize this one

Much like Penguindrum, Utena starts normally then stuff goes insane, like insane.

eblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

------ updates -------

started revolutionary girl utena, watched first 4 chapters, I like it, I was almost all day outside yesterday so I didn't really watch anything yesterday

next on the list: hapymaher, kayou seemed like a bit sad that it fell so long, so i'm going to prioritize this one

Much like Penguindrum, Utena starts normally then stuff goes insane, like insane.

I expected as much, i'm excited for it

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

well, I caught up with the OT!book and analyzed it

here are my chapter per chapter notes, however they're less in depth than what i'm going to write on here

honestly, this is an above average work for the skill level of writting that we're working with, like, i've read a lot of fanfics that are infinitely worse, and the number of fanfics/original stories of non very experienced writters that I prefeered over this one were small

however, there is one BIG problem that really kills a lot of scenes in the book, and that is the pacing

the thing with allowing everyone to create a character and and write a chapter is that for example at the start, there are 80 pages of pure character introduction, so it kinda gets boring after the 15th chapter introducing characters, also, when there is an actually good plot thread going on, having 2 chapters following a totally different thread kills the pacing of the first one. So things like the action scenes that you're trying to pull near the latest chapters falls a little bit flat. You can still write a good book with this setup, but I just dont think action/drama works

now, another problem that is less general to the actual story structure, is actually something that I already ranted about in my texhnolyze review

the general problem that happens when the internet tries to write anything, you end with too much lore

everything must be explained and showed to the reader, you must have a map, names for each location, story for each part, in depth lore for each character, etc.

When you're watching a movie or reading a book that is normally considered to be of very high quality, there really aren't segments where they just dump a shitload of lore in a flashback about the protagonist after the character was introduced for the first time, yet here it happens constantly. You spend like 30 chapters introducing lore for everything and setting shit up but most of the plot points that ends up happening doesn't take advantage of any of that, with one major exception, chapters 17, 28, and 29

you dont need to understand 100% of the world if you're only going to use 20% of it for the plot

the arika/robotic club plotline is actually really really good compared to the rest of the book, and is BY FAR the best part of the book. The concept of a character that just makes drone to explore and do experiments takes full advantage of everything set up, it takes advantage of the concept of the crumbling world, it actually ties well with the other club which was already set up before and allows for a chapter in the future where they actually do a partnership. The end of the chapters usually do set up things that ends up being on use, the writting style is solid. Due to it not being action it does not suffer from that problem I mentioned before

problem is, the best plotline in the book only has 3 chapters

the main arc of the book is this other side/fantasy monster/action plot, which again, the action doesn't really work. The concept of the other side was cool, this distorted land with all the colors reversed and stuff, that's cool, but you just dont take advantage of it. It's just shown and then not really used for anything

I don't really know where that main plot is going, even if it's the one that has had the most screen-time I don't know what the end goal for it would be, but honestly seeing how the structure and how everything is set up, I understnad the book is going to go as far as it can until the thread dies, which doesn't seem to be soon

more weird and specific details are on the documment I shared

i'm also using this post as my pitch for becoming an editor for the book. I think a lot of the earlier stuff cant really be fixed without rewritting, something that I know isn't really going to happen, but I think you can still take this to a good direction if the book goes for long enough

------ updates -------

started revolutionary girl utena, watched first 4 chapters, I like it, I was almost all day outside yesterday so I didn't really watch anything yesterday

next on the list: hapymaher, kayou seemed like a bit sad that it fell so long, so i'm going to prioritize this one

I've always wondered what the experience of actually reading the book in it's entirety as a newcomer would be like so your analysis was really insightful, thanks for that.

Unlike the other stuff you analysed I'm in a pretty unique position to actually respond to everything and answer questions, or at least offer good insight. We also have direct with all of the authors as well.

Glad to have you onboard as editor, you didn't need to write a pitch, dpeace and manishh are editors because I forgot to remove them from the group chat and I asked them if they wanted to be editors lol

I'll add you to the group chat, we can discuss stuff more in depth there

Actually it might be cool to make the discussion more public, it's not like any of this is supposed to be forbidden knowledge and it'll be good to have more insight from the actual authors

-

cephaphysic wrote: 406m6w

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

well, I caught up with the OT!book and analyzed it

here are my chapter per chapter notes, however they're less in depth than what i'm going to write on here

honestly, this is an above average work for the skill level of writting that we're working with, like, i've read a lot of fanfics that are infinitely worse, and the number of fanfics/original stories of non very experienced writters that I prefeered over this one were small

however, there is one BIG problem that really kills a lot of scenes in the book, and that is the pacing

the thing with allowing everyone to create a character and and write a chapter is that for example at the start, there are 80 pages of pure character introduction, so it kinda gets boring after the 15th chapter introducing characters, also, when there is an actually good plot thread going on, having 2 chapters following a totally different thread kills the pacing of the first one. So things like the action scenes that you're trying to pull near the latest chapters falls a little bit flat. You can still write a good book with this setup, but I just dont think action/drama works

now, another problem that is less general to the actual story structure, is actually something that I already ranted about in my texhnolyze review

the general problem that happens when the internet tries to write anything, you end with too much lore

everything must be explained and showed to the reader, you must have a map, names for each location, story for each part, in depth lore for each character, etc.

When you're watching a movie or reading a book that is normally considered to be of very high quality, there really aren't segments where they just dump a shitload of lore in a flashback about the protagonist after the character was introduced for the first time, yet here it happens constantly. You spend like 30 chapters introducing lore for everything and setting shit up but most of the plot points that ends up happening doesn't take advantage of any of that, with one major exception, chapters 17, 28, and 29

you dont need to understand 100% of the world if you're only going to use 20% of it for the plot

the arika/robotic club plotline is actually really really good compared to the rest of the book, and is BY FAR the best part of the book. The concept of a character that just makes drone to explore and do experiments takes full advantage of everything set up, it takes advantage of the concept of the crumbling world, it actually ties well with the other club which was already set up before and allows for a chapter in the future where they actually do a partnership. The end of the chapters usually do set up things that ends up being on use, the writting style is solid. Due to it not being action it does not suffer from that problem I mentioned before

problem is, the best plotline in the book only has 3 chapters

the main arc of the book is this other side/fantasy monster/action plot, which again, the action doesn't really work. The concept of the other side was cool, this distorted land with all the colors reversed and stuff, that's cool, but you just dont take advantage of it. It's just shown and then not really used for anything

I don't really know where that main plot is going, even if it's the one that has had the most screen-time I don't know what the end goal for it would be, but honestly seeing how the structure and how everything is set up, I understnad the book is going to go as far as it can until the thread dies, which doesn't seem to be soon

more weird and specific details are on the documment I shared

i'm also using this post as my pitch for becoming an editor for the book. I think a lot of the earlier stuff cant really be fixed without rewritting, something that I know isn't really going to happen, but I think you can still take this to a good direction if the book goes for long enough

yeah that's fair

though god, i want to rewrite a bunch of my stuff even more than i previously did. they've been bugging me for other reasons and possibly contributing to this is just another one :V

I really want to rewrite my chapters well, especially the Yoony/Demon Lord chapter which I completely half assed because I ran out of time

Maybe we can all have a proper rewriting session at some point

Honestly if you want to rewrite stuff now just send it to me and I'll update it

Sorry Patatitta for hijacking this thread

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote: 1w5n5a

cephaphysic wrote: 406m6w

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

well, I caught up with the OT!book and analyzed it

here are my chapter per chapter notes, however they're less in depth than what i'm going to write on here

honestly, this is an above average work for the skill level of writting that we're working with, like, i've read a lot of fanfics that are infinitely worse, and the number of fanfics/original stories of non very experienced writters that I prefeered over this one were small

however, there is one BIG problem that really kills a lot of scenes in the book, and that is the pacing

the thing with allowing everyone to create a character and and write a chapter is that for example at the start, there are 80 pages of pure character introduction, so it kinda gets boring after the 15th chapter introducing characters, also, when there is an actually good plot thread going on, having 2 chapters following a totally different thread kills the pacing of the first one. So things like the action scenes that you're trying to pull near the latest chapters falls a little bit flat. You can still write a good book with this setup, but I just dont think action/drama works

now, another problem that is less general to the actual story structure, is actually something that I already ranted about in my texhnolyze review

the general problem that happens when the internet tries to write anything, you end with too much lore

everything must be explained and showed to the reader, you must have a map, names for each location, story for each part, in depth lore for each character, etc.

When you're watching a movie or reading a book that is normally considered to be of very high quality, there really aren't segments where they just dump a shitload of lore in a flashback about the protagonist after the character was introduced for the first time, yet here it happens constantly. You spend like 30 chapters introducing lore for everything and setting shit up but most of the plot points that ends up happening doesn't take advantage of any of that, with one major exception, chapters 17, 28, and 29

you dont need to understand 100% of the world if you're only going to use 20% of it for the plot

the arika/robotic club plotline is actually really really good compared to the rest of the book, and is BY FAR the best part of the book. The concept of a character that just makes drone to explore and do experiments takes full advantage of everything set up, it takes advantage of the concept of the crumbling world, it actually ties well with the other club which was already set up before and allows for a chapter in the future where they actually do a partnership. The end of the chapters usually do set up things that ends up being on use, the writting style is solid. Due to it not being action it does not suffer from that problem I mentioned before

problem is, the best plotline in the book only has 3 chapters

the main arc of the book is this other side/fantasy monster/action plot, which again, the action doesn't really work. The concept of the other side was cool, this distorted land with all the colors reversed and stuff, that's cool, but you just dont take advantage of it. It's just shown and then not really used for anything

I don't really know where that main plot is going, even if it's the one that has had the most screen-time I don't know what the end goal for it would be, but honestly seeing how the structure and how everything is set up, I understnad the book is going to go as far as it can until the thread dies, which doesn't seem to be soon

more weird and specific details are on the documment I shared

i'm also using this post as my pitch for becoming an editor for the book. I think a lot of the earlier stuff cant really be fixed without rewritting, something that I know isn't really going to happen, but I think you can still take this to a good direction if the book goes for long enough

yeah that's fair

though god, i want to rewrite a bunch of my stuff even more than i previously did. they've been bugging me for other reasons and possibly contributing to this is just another one :V

I really want to rewrite my chapters well, especially the Yoony/Demon Lord chapter which I completely half assed because I ran out of time

Maybe we can all have a proper rewriting session at some point

Honestly if you want to rewrite stuff now just send it to me and I'll update it

Sorry Patatitta for hijacking this thread

nah this is not hijacking, this is just having conversation over something I pointed out. I personally dont know how feasable a rewritting of certain segments would be, but I would agree it would definitively help the book

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z

I am so freaking hyped for my request

same, i will be forever tho lul
dunno why a book would take too long when its only like 300 pages ;-;

Dementedduck wrote: 5h4a6n

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z

I am so freaking hyped for my request

same, i will be forever tho lul
dunno why a book would take too long when its only like 300 pages ;-;

I mean, max's request is the next one after I finish this anime and your request is next after I finish this VN

I can finish a book pretty quickly, like, I read the OT!book in a day, but it's still more hours than a regular anime or manga or even some videogames

Review all of the webcomics from Control Alt Delete without quitting and I will give you 22 euros (sorry I'm joking, but if you survive watching at least three of the parts from the webcomics then your balls are made of indestructible titanium.)

DO IT! O_O

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Review all of the webcomics from Control Alt Delete without quitting and I will give you 22 euros (sorry I'm joking, but if you survive watching at least three of the parts from the webcomics then your balls are made of indestructible titanium.)

DO IT! O_O

okay I just saw the first image that appeared while looking at that on google and i'm for the challenge

-

cephaphysic wrote: 406m6w

oh also, i'm legally obligated to ask you to read homestuck

it's over 8000 pages long, though most of them are a single . it's got flash games and animations as well. dunno how long it'll take you to read when you're committing to it

(also make sure you use the unoffical collection i linked above, or else you can't access the flash content)

I knew this was inevitable

i've been avoiding homestuck for over 10 years

will add to the list

green day songs
if you have a favorite, tell me

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

green day songs
if you have a favorite, tell me

not doing music since I dont know shit about music

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

green day songs
if you have a favorite, tell me

not doing music since I dont know shit about music

oh
alright uhhhhhhh
how about the sprites i've made in this thread

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

green day songs
if you have a favorite, tell me

not doing music since I dont know shit about music

oh
alright uhhhhhhh
how about the sprites i've made in this thread

as I said before, i'm not just reviewing anything, I need something with a plot or anything I can analyze, cant just do that for a sprite

Im glad you liked billy bat lmao, you put the feeling of weird confusion it makes into words, it really is that good

Edit: I might have a few more weird mangas I've already read, might shoot them here if i found any that's interesting

NotRaffi wrote: 453q6o

Im glad you liked billy bat lmao, you put the feeling of weird confusion it makes into words, it really is that good

Edit: I might have a few more weird mangas I've already read, might shoot them here if i found any that's interesting

sure, always open for more suggestions

I dropped Hapymaher

I feel bad for katou, since they really were excited for their request, but this really isn't just something for me

i've played up to the middle of chapter 3, so like a little bit more than an hour and a half I think? (didn't really time it), which is enough time to judge IMO, and while the plot hasn't really started, I feel the game is pushing me into wanting to date one of the characters. Currently feels more like a dating simulator than a VN, and that's just not really my thing

and while the little scenes explaining the plot, the scene just showcases that one character panties in full detail, and while some people may be fine with stuff like that, I don't really like it. Like, before even anything really happened the game already throwed me an opportunity to have a sex scene

-----

next: Control Alt Delete webcomic



fuck



edit: i'm not going to do ctrlAltDelete what the fuck is this I didn't know it was THAT unfunny, i'm sorry but I dont want to torture myself

skipping to homestuck, which tbh I didn't put it on the special request list since I don't know how long it would take me, but now i'm realizing that it may be really fucking long

HAHAHA I tried reading CAD some time ago and it's really bad

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

I dropped Hapymaher

I feel bad for katou, since they really were excited for their request, but this really isn't just something for me

i've played up to the middle of chapter 3, so like a little bit more than an hour and a half I think? (didn't really time it), which is enough time to judge IMO, and while the plot hasn't really started, I feel the game is pushing me into wanting to date one of the characters. Currently feels more like a dating simulator than a VN, and that's just not really my thing

and while the little scenes explaining the plot, the scene just showcases that one character panties in full detail, and while some people may be fine with stuff like that, I don't really like it. Like, before even anything really happened the game already throwed me an opportunity to have a sex scene

-----

next: Control Alt Delete webcomic



fuck



edit: i'm not going to do ctrlAltDelete what the fuck is this I didn't know it was THAT unfunny, i'm sorry but I dont want to torture myself

skipping to homestuck, which tbh I didn't put it on the special request list since I don't know how long it would take me, but now i'm realizing that it may be really fucking long

Yeah, that's fine. Probably should have suggested something more tame at first.

Review me

sametdze wrote: 732432

Review me

as I have already said multiple times in this thread, I cant do stuff like that, what i'm looking for are books/games/anime/manga/film with plot or whatever I can analyze, I cant analyze a sprite or a person or a contest

Man Patatitta really Loss the challenge. xD

I guess he can't handle the cringe on his potato brain after all lol.

But yeah it's really cringe, at least you got that right or else...

O_O

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

sametdze wrote: 732432

Review me

as I have already said multiple times in this thread, I cant do stuff like that, what i'm looking for are books/games/anime/manga/film with plot or whatever I can analyze, I cant analyze a sprite or a person or a contest

Fine, I'll review myself

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

sametdze wrote: 732432

Review me

as I have already said multiple times in this thread, I cant do stuff like that, what i'm looking for are books/games/anime/manga/film with plot or whatever I can analyze, I cant analyze a sprite or a person or a contest

Review my me! page lel

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

green day songs
if you have a favorite, tell me

not doing music since I dont know shit about music

oh
alright uhhhhhhh
how about the sprites i've made in this thread

as I said before, i'm not just reviewing anything, I need something with a plot or anything I can analyze, cant just do that for a sprite

oh alright then :/
then what about over the garden wall

sametdze wrote: 732432

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

sametdze wrote: 732432

Review me

as I have already said multiple times in this thread, I cant do stuff like that, what i'm looking for are books/games/anime/manga/film with plot or whatever I can analyze, I cant analyze a sprite or a person or a contest

Fine, I'll review myself

nono ill do it
u are cool train guy who has model trains and is cool
did i mention the trains? or that ur cool? i forget

o yea also u are cool to see on da forum 👍

i give u a 6/10 on da osu ranking

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Man Patatitta really Loss the challenge. xD

I guess he can't handle the cringe on his potato brain after all lol.

But yeah it's really cringe, at least you got that right or else...

O_O

honestly I don't think I have ever dropped something so fast in my life


-----------


I feel bad for dropping 3 things today but homestuck is not really the thing for me

I have read up to page 474 before deciding to drop it, I really wasn't willing to read any mroe of that

idk, I just don't really get homestuck?, Like, the way ht's written, it's like a point and click game, which is cool, I lovee point and click games, like, currently i'm playing this game called norco, and it's really good so far. And my favourite game of all time, disco elysium, does feel point and click adjacent due to how much text it has and how little gameplay it has

however, one of the appeal of these types of games for me is having the freedom to explore on your own, roleplay as your character, solving the puzles on your own, if i'm just reading someone else play a point and click adventure game, that's boring

it's also worth mentioning that the way you write a poitn and click game is not the way you write a book or a webcomic, stuff like saying what actions the character takes with is not the most ideas for a book, but it's just very often a needed thing for this type of games. However, in this medium you dont need to do that, you're making the reading quality worse for no reason, since you're not giving me any of the upside for it

the story is also completely lineal so far, even if it's a webcomic and there are flash games and stuff, the story is just lineal

the story was also not my thing, it was mainly just focused on comedy which it's fine on itself, but it's a type of comedy that I don't really enjoy much

-----------

updates: I finished chapter 12 of revolutionary girl utena and i'm liking it so far

next: pale fire

-

cephaphysic wrote: 406m6w

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

MrMcMikey22 wrote: 5p1w2r

Man Patatitta really Loss the challenge. xD

I guess he can't handle the cringe on his potato brain after all lol.

But yeah it's really cringe, at least you got that right or else...

O_O

honestly I don't think I have ever dropped something so fast in my life


-----------


I feel bad for dropping 3 things today but homestuck is not really the thing for me

I have read up to page 474 before deciding to drop it, I really wasn't willing to read any mroe of that

idk, I just don't really get homestuck?, Like, the way ht's written, it's like a point and click game, which is cool, I lovee point and click games, like, currently i'm playing this game called norco, and it's really good so far. And my favourite game of all time, disco elysium, does feel point and click adjacent due to how much text it has and how little gameplay it has

however, one of the appeal of these types of games for me is having the freedom to explore on your own, roleplay as your character, solving the puzles on your own, if i'm just reading someone else play a point and click adventure game, that's boring

it's also worth mentioning that the way you write a poitn and click game is not the way you write a book or a webcomic, stuff like saying what actions the character takes with is not the most ideas for a book, but it's just very often a needed thing for this type of games. However, in this medium you dont need to do that, you're making the reading quality worse for no reason, since you're not giving me any of the upside for it

the story is also completely lineal so far, even if it's a webcomic and there are flash games and stuff, the story is just lineal

the story was also not my thing, it was mainly just focused on comedy which it's fine on itself, but it's a type of comedy that I don't really enjoy much

fair enough. the beginning isn't really reflective of the entire webcomic (obviously it is a comedy, but there's more to it further in), and i personally think the text adventure style it goes for is neat, but if it's just something you plain can't get into, i can't really make you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>

also, if you don't mind, could you watch lackadaisy? mainly have the animation on mind, but if you want you can go through the webcomic, since the animated series only has one episode rn

will read the webcomic, will add to the list


and also, while I can believe that it's a lot different in future chapters, the early stuff sets up stuff, but if you didn't enjoy the set up, you're not going to enjoy the payoff. So in 95% of situations with anything, if you dont enjoy the beginning you wont really enjoy anything else

-

Pale fare analysis:


for anyone interested in reading this book, please, do NOT go in blind. Don't make the same mistake as I did

This is for sure one of the most unique books i've read. The book is structured like a poetry book, with a poem called "Pale fire", if you don't know better, you will probably skip the afterword since it looks like it was made by the editorial or something, and probably also the index in the back, you would just read the poem, enjoy it, and move on with your life

thing is, unless you look at wikipedia or have someone really tell you this, you may not know that there is actually more book. After the poem there is a big analysis of the book, you would initially think that this was not needed if you just dont want to read an analysis or think you kinda understood the poem. However it's in that analysis that the actual book is at

the point of pale fire, is that every other element (the afterword, the analysis and the index) are part of a different narrative. This becomes clear when you actually read any of them

you will notice at like the third paragraph of the analysis, that our narrator, (which is NOT the author of the poem) is actually clueless and writting a lot of bullshit. Like, they take a line of the book, kinda does something that could be true, and then 3 paragraphs later they're talking about their morning routine. Going to use an example of the start of the book to not spoil anyone

kinbote wrote: 5d4yo

Lines 1-4: I was the shadow of the waxwing slain, etc.
The image in these opening lines evidently refers to a bird knocking itself out, in full flight, against the outer surface of a glass pane in which a mirrored sky, with its slightly darker tint and slightly slower cloud, presents the illusion of continued space. [...]

kinbote wrote: 5d4yo

[...] The poem was begun at the dead center of the year, a few minutes after midnight July 1, while I played chess with a young Iranian enrolled in our summer school

and then, deeper into the book, it doesn't just tell stuff about their life, but actually starts telling a different story whatsoever, thing is, if you're reading this as if it was an actual poem analysis, (me, clueless). The fact taht the narrator is incredibly hateable and clearly spreading lies and stuff not relevant to the poem, will make you just kinda skim some sections when they starts their weird ramblings. However, you're not really supposed to do this, as there is a deeper narrative if you actually do engage critically and analyze the last detail out of those ramblings

and that is, because while there is a plot in the things they say about the kingdom of zembla, there is a deeper plot, about their actual relationship to the actual author, who is he exactly, and why he is doing this. Which, to be completely honest, I missed on my read-through


thing is, you must read the book with a word documment or notebook open and then read every word and then stop after every sentence to study what their actual meaning is. And after you have read it once, you got to read it again, because for sure there is going to be stuff recontextualized and things you missed. Which being honest, it's not my favourite thing to do

however, if you were to do that, you would realize that the book is actually a lot more complex and really well written, but yeah. It's just you need a lot of context before going into the book, as the actual book is not the most enjoyable if not, there are so many things descouraging you from actually reading the book critically that I think most readers currently won't really spot this sort of elements

not also that, but the book is also old, it's from 1962, not only that, but the actual author is russian, but this book was written in an entirely different culture, and they do use references to some stuff that while it may be apparent on the era and location it was written. It's really not noticeable by anyone unless you read the wikipedia article for it and then also watch a video analysis

even if I have complained a lot about the book, I do really like what they're trying to do, use a analysis of a book to tell a entirely different plot. I have seen more modern works with similar concepts, and they're really amazing. And this was the earliest example I know of this sort of story-telling, I just wish this book was easier to get into, because if it wasn't been for wikipedia, I would have missed half the book

the actual plot is good, and part of the acutal plot appeal is the feeling of just calling the fictional narrator out on it's bullshit to then discover more plot. Cant really say any specifics of the plot because of that

noy only that, but there isn't really a concensus what the acutal true plot and events of pale fire are. So yeah, good luck trying to read this

----

next: Lackadaisy

also i'm still watching revolutionary girl utena, I just finished chapter 24 and I'm still very much enjoying it

lackadaisy analysis:

I initially was only going to read the comci, but I liked it, so I watched both the comic and the pilot episode for an animated series

lackadaisy is a pretty nice webcomic, it's about these furry characters in the 20's going around and having adventure, you dont really need to read many chapters to realize that it's that type of webcomic, the one that there is a massive diehard fanbase, mainly in tumblr and if you're looking at it from the outside, you dont really get why

about the webcomic itself, the art is gorgeous. The first chapters start with a sepia color tone reminiscent of old phographs, with pretty detailed drawings behidn it. The sepia tpne was added mainly to make the webcomic easier to draw, as just drawing full color each chapter is incredebly time consuming. Only very successful comics can afford to go full color, however, the sepia aesthetic really fits and blends very well with the 20's detective adventure plot that they go for

however, ther is a radical shift in the art near the end of the manga, switching, effectively, to full colour. And while it does lose a bit of the charm the previous art-style had, it's absolutely amazing, probably one of the best drawn comics i've read in this style. The characters are very well defined and there really isn't anything up for interpretation, which I think fits this story

The characters are great, they're all very likeable. If you told me any character was your favourite I would understand why you think that.

My only real problem with this comic is the plot. It's a very unfocused story, and since they make most of the scenes character moments, there is very little to the plot, it's supposed to be a mistery murder misterty thing but it really doesn't have that energy other than the setting

I don't know, I just think this comic is in the wrong genre, if you want to make a character focused story with great art and focus all your energy in that, make a SoL, not a murder mistery. It does make sense why it isn't a SoL though, and that is because the genre of SoL isn't really present in occidental comics, less in 2006 when this started publication. Which is a shame, because I feel this comic would be SO much better if it just went the pure SoL route

not only that, but with the art-style change it feels it's trying to get more serious, but you cant really have this furry silly little funny characters and then have a hyperdramatic tense moment, you either have one or the other, not both

the pilot episode for the animation is fine, everything appleies to this other than the art, which I feel is a downgrade compared to the art-style of the comic, as it feels that in order to make the animation they got closer to the style of something like hazbin hotel

still good, would recommend it but I just wish it was a SoL

--------------

flowers for algernon next

also i'm still watching utena, i'm on chapter 32, pretty good so far

do over the garden wall please

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

do over the garden wall please

actually did want to watch that show, adding to the list, I have a friend who watched it and enjoyed it so I was curious

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne

do over the garden wall please

actually did want to watch that show, adding to the list, I have a friend who watched it and enjoyed it so I was curious

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
you will not regret watching it, it's so good!!!

Patatitta wrote: 4y1w

flowers for algernon next

also i'm still watching utena, i'm on chapter 32, pretty good so far

Do not skip chapter 33, might be a recap but has details that are important (well just skip the recap parts if you want)