This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Τρίτη, 7 Ιουνίου 2016 at 10:51:46 μμ

Artist: Fleshgod Apocalypse
Title: Minotaur
Tags: deathstream , marathon
BPM: 160
Filesize: 7691kb
Play Time: 05:07
Difficulties Available:

1. Mythology (6,98 stars, 1649 notes)

: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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finished
would like some
hope to get this ranked

Modders

abanes16

Alright, here's my end of the m4m.

00:13:614 (5,1) - Blanket

00:21:676 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This timing change is super awkward to play. I wouldn't change between timing in the middle of a stream, esp from what I think is 1/12 to 1/3?

00:33:551 (2,3,4,5,6) - blanket this stream around 00:34:114 (2)

00:50:926 (7) - Move so its not so close to 00:50:364 (4) and 00:50:551 (5)

01:09:114 (6) - For the sake of aesthetics move this down a bit.

01:15:926 (2,3) - these two notes just kinda jut up a bit compared to the rest of the stream, move them down.

01:22:239 (7) - NC

01:30:926 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - The same timing change comment I made earlier; makes this super awkward to play.

01:32:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Split this giant combo into different combos

02:06:676 (2) - Move to the right a bit.

02:33:114 (2,1) - looks better as a blanket

04:09:489 (1) - this little cut in the stream looks kinda bleh

04:26:239 (5) - This is out of position

04:47:364 (1,1) - blanket or reposition

Overall looks like a cool map. I'm not great at modding super hard deathstreamy maps, but I did my best. Good luck!

Hobbes2 wrote: 1k263b

Alright, here's my end of the m4m.

00:13:614 (5,1) - Blanket fixed

00:21:676 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This timing change is super awkward to play. I wouldn't change between timing in the middle of a stream, esp from what I think is 1/12 to 1/3? reworked

00:33:551 (2,3,4,5,6) - blanket this stream around 00:34:114 (2) reworked anyway

00:50:926 (7) - Move so its not so close to 00:50:364 (4) and 00:50:551 (5) done

01:09:114 (6) - For the sake of aesthetics move this down a bit.why not

01:15:926 (2,3) - these two notes just kinda jut up a bit compared to the rest of the stream, move them down.ok

01:22:239 (7) - NCalright

01:30:926 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - The same timing change comment I made earlier; makes this super awkward to play.fixed

01:32:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Split this giant combo into different combosi think its fine and fits the music as it is

02:06:676 (2) - Move to the right a bit.why not

02:33:114 (2,1) - looks better as a blanketok

04:09:489 (1) - this little cut in the stream looks kinda blehthe music changes so i decided to make it like that but i can get it a bit closer

04:26:239 (5) - This is out of positionoops

04:47:364 (1,1) - blanket or reposition i think its fine

Overall looks like a cool map. I'm not great at modding super hard deathstreamy maps, but I did my best. Good luck!

thanks a lot for the help even tho my mod wasnt that great

le mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mythology
00:45:864 (1,2,3,4) the jumps should be like this
01:24:864 move slider closer to the stream
01:42:864 missing a note here
01:48:864 ^
01:50:364 ^
01:51:864 ^
01:54:301 ^
01:55:239 - 01:57:676 these circles are 1/4, not 1/6
02:06:864 - 02:07:614 why nothing here?
02:31:614 - 02:32:739 dont make the 3 streams separate, connect them
02:40:614 change slider to a circle
02:52:614 ^
03:27:489 - 03:28:614 connect stream pls
03:54:676 - 03:57:114 why nothing here? D:
the rest seems pretty fine

good luck!

havkz wrote: b5ui

le mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mythology
00:45:864 (1,2,3,4) the jumps should be like this done
01:24:864 move slider closer to the stream ok
01:42:864 missing a note here fixed
01:48:864 ^ ^
01:50:364 ^^
01:51:864 ^^
01:54:301 ^^
01:55:239 - 01:57:676 these circles are 1/4, not 1/6tnx for that.that part was tricky af to do for me
02:06:864 - 02:07:614 why nothing here? oops
02:31:614 - 02:32:739 dont make the 3 streams separate, connect themfixed but i left a space the emphasize the voice too
02:40:614 change slider to a circle why not
02:52:614 ^ ok
03:27:489 - 03:28:614 connect stream plsgot the closer
03:54:676 - 03:57:114 why nothing here? D: oops
the rest seems pretty fine

good luck!
THANKS A LOT FOR THE HELP

00:00:114 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,1) - This looks like a bunch of notes randomly placed together.

00:22:051 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - There is a rock guitar (that is the most noticable part) at 00:22:551 (6) and you completely ignore it?
And why is this set up to look like a stream i'm confused. (Jumps please)

00:23:549 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Weird shape.

00:27:112 (6) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:28:987 (7) - ^^

00:29:362 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Why are they set up like this? (Jumps please)

00:30:862 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:32:362 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Obviously weird shape.

00:37:612 (10) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:39:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Weird shape and ^^

00:44:737 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:59:737 (8) - ^^

01:03:674 (4) - Why isn't this under 01:03:299 (2) ?

01:04:424 (1,2,3,4) - Really weird attempt at a square.

01:14:362 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

01:15:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Weird shape.

01:22:612 (7) - Slider does not match stream.

01:28:987 (7) - ^^

01:29:737 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Weird shape.

Okay, i'm ending this prematurely because i'd be repeating myself over and over again.

Hello, so here's my part of the M4M from t/433684

Instead of going in-depth I'll try to tell you my thoughts on your map (and because I dont really like this song )

- The first things I noticed are the sliders after some streams which dont flow and feel really awkward. Here's an example: 02:09:676 (8,9) - or 00:37:551 (9,10) - this doesnt flow and looks pretty ugly tbh, something like that As you can see the stream follows into the shape of the slider.
- You need definetly some variety in your map. Basic curved streams with same spacing and no sliders (well reverse sliders) look very straight and it gets boring really fast. So try to make exciting streams, maybe with streams which change suddenly its direction (maybe with overlapping streams, since your map should be hard af or maybe a bit jump stream parts like you did it here 03:50:488 (6,1,6,1,6,1,6,1) - ). Put at the beginning, end or in between of streams reverse sliders multiple times, so it does not look straight.
- Make your map cleaner: try to think about every note (yes it is an effort, but thats part of mapping), make nice patterns and get structure. Have an eye on flow things: sliderend flows into next note and smth like that.
- Jumps shouldnt look random: I noticed a few jumps which look random, for example 00:33:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - .

I hope i helped a bit, if it wasnt useful then dont give kudo!
GL with your map and happy mapping (:

SkyLifeHope wrote: 5g461x

00:00:114 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,1) - This looks like a bunch of notes randomly placed together.

00:22:051 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - There is a rock guitar (that is the most noticable part) at 00:22:551 (6) and you completely ignore it?
And why is this set up to look like a stream i'm confused. (Jumps please)

00:23:549 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Weird shape.

00:27:112 (6) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:28:987 (7) - ^^

00:29:362 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Why are they set up like this? (Jumps please)

00:30:862 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:32:362 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Obviously weird shape.

00:37:612 (10) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:39:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Weird shape and ^^

00:44:737 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

00:59:737 (8) - ^^

01:03:674 (4) - Why isn't this under 01:03:299 (2) ?

01:04:424 (1,2,3,4) - Really weird attempt at a square.

01:14:362 (7) - Slider does not match the stream.

01:15:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Weird shape.

01:22:612 (7) - Slider does not match stream.

01:28:987 (7) - ^^

01:29:737 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Weird shape.

Okay, i'm ending this prematurely because i'd be repeating myself over and over again.
Agreed with most of them and checked out the hole map for this kind of mistakes

Phyloukz wrote: 3i704t

Hello, so here's my part of the M4M from t/433684

Instead of going in-depth I'll try to tell you my thoughts on your map (and because I dont really like this song )

- The first things I noticed are the sliders after some streams which dont flow and feel really awkward. Here's an example: 02:09:676 (8,9) - or 00:37:551 (9,10) - this doesnt flow and looks pretty ugly tbh, something like that

example

As you can see the stream follows into the shape of the slider.
- You need definetly some variety in your map. Basic curved streams with same spacing and no sliders (well reverse sliders) look very straight and it gets boring really fast. So try to make exciting streams, maybe with streams which change suddenly its direction (maybe with overlapping streams, since your map should be hard af or maybe a bit jump stream parts like you did it here 03:50:488 (6,1,6,1,6,1,6,1) - ). Put at the beginning, end or in between of streams reverse sliders multiple times, so it does not look straight.
- Make your map cleaner: try to think about every note (yes it is an effort, but thats part of mapping), make nice patterns and get structure. Have an eye on flow things: sliderend flows into next note and smth like that.
- Jumps shouldnt look random: I noticed a few jumps which look random, for example 00:33:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - .

I hope i helped a bit, if it wasnt useful then dont give kudo!
GL with your map and happy mapping (:
All kind of help is useful

00:02:364 (1,2) - I think it would flow nicer if you seperated these notes a bit more

00:03:864 (3) - move this more to the left, it'll give it a nicer look 00:03:114 (1) - or you can move this to the left, either choice is fine

00:04:239 (1,2,3) - maybe make these notes a little more seperated as the gameplay feels weird

00:05:364 (1,2,3) - diagonal jumps are weird, in 2008 maybe they would look good but in modern maps it makes it look messy and feels weird, maybe try
making it look like 00:07:239 (1,2,3) - these jumps?

00:22:051 (2,3,4,5,6) - this stream feels akward to play, maybe change it to a slider?

00:23:364 - you missed a beat, I mean idk if that was intentional or not

00:23:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - make this quieter, maybe 80 soft auido, if you understand

00:25:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - maybe make this stream 00:26:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 'mend' with this one a little better?

00:29:739 (4,5,6) - male this triangle lean a little more, or move it too the right

00:34:239 (3,4) - change these notes around, it'll flow better

00:35:364 (4) - curve this a bit more?

00:36:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - akward to play

00:37:989 (11) - less curve?

00:41:926 (4) - this note is kind of just there.... It's not mended at all with any other note

00:46:614 (1,2,3,4) - maybe try to make ALL of these sliders the exact same shape

00:49:989 (2,3,4,5) - weird horizantal jumps again

00:51:489 - missed a beat again

01:11:364 (4,5) - switch these notes around it'll flow better

01:14:364 (7,8) - I like to overlap sliders, but not in this kind of way, it makes it look ugly

01:15:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - um this doesn't go with the rythym whatsoever

01:20:301 (6,7,8) - ooo slight slight slight overlap

01:46:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe try to make these sliders like... mend better

01:48:864 (1,1) - I like the overlap idea but maybe try maing a cooler overlap design?

02:01:239 - missed a beat AGAIN listen to the instruments

02:08:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this does not go with the rythym whatsoever

02:13:989 - missed a beat I honestly think it's intentional now

02:20:364 - missed a beat

02:32:301 (6,1) - why are these separated?

sorry I would mod more but i'm too lazy, but kudos?

Whirl wrote: 644z58

00:02:364 (1,2) - I think it would flow nicer if you seperated these notes a bit more good point

00:03:864 (3) - move this more to the left, it'll give it a nicer look 00:03:114 (1) - or you can move this to the left, either choice is fineok

00:04:239 (1,2,3) - maybe make these notes a little more seperated as the gameplay feels weirdi think its fine

00:05:364 (1,2,3) - diagonal jumps are weird, in 2008 maybe they would look good but in modern maps it makes it look messy and feels weird, maybe try
making it look like 00:07:239 (1,2,3) - these jumps? reworked that part a bit

00:22:051 (2,3,4,5,6) - this stream feels akward to play, maybe change it to a slider?i think its fine

00:23:364 - you missed a beat, I mean idk if that was intentional or not i dont think it fits the song if i map that beat.idk if more people say it i will

00:23:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - make this quieter, maybe 80 soft auido, if you understandwhy not

00:25:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - maybe make this stream 00:26:364 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 'mend' with this one a little better?i think its fine

00:29:739 (4,5,6) - male this triangle lean a little more, or move it too the rightwhy not

00:34:239 (3,4) - change these notes around, it'll flow betteri like that pattern but again if more people say it i will rework it

00:35:364 (4) - curve this a bit more? ok

00:36:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - akward to playi dont see how can i map that 1/4 parts otherwise

00:37:989 (11) - less curve?ok

00:41:926 (4) - this note is kind of just there.... It's not mended at all with any other notei think its ok to keep the flow

00:46:614 (1,2,3,4) - maybe try to make ALL of these sliders the exact same shape i removed the 3 others and copy pasted the first

00:49:989 (2,3,4,5) - weird horizantal jumps againits ok i think

00:51:489 - missed a beat againi didnt want to map this but if more people say it will put a note there

01:11:364 (4,5) - switch these notes around it'll flow betteri want to keep the same distance snap

01:14:364 (7,8) - I like to overlap sliders, but not in this kind of way, it makes it look ugly got a little gap bettween

01:15:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - um this doesn't go with the rythym whatsoeveri think its fine

01:20:301 (6,7,8) - ooo slight slight slight overlap?

01:46:614 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe try to make these sliders like... mend betterwhat is mend.i think they are ok

01:48:864 (1,1) - I like the overlap idea but maybe try maing a cooler overlap design?reworked a bit

02:01:239 - missed a beat AGAIN listen to the instruments feels wierd to map this but will do if more people say it

02:08:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this does not go with the rythym whatsoeveri like it

02:13:989 - missed a beat I honestly think it's intentional now yep

02:20:364 - missed a beat oops that wasnt inteded

02:32:301 (6,1) - why are these separated? to emphasize the voice changes

sorry I would mod more but i'm too lazy, but kudos?
every kind of help is useful

[mythology]
00:00:864 (1) - remove nc
00:01:239 (4) - nc
00:02:364 (8) - remove nc
00:09:864 (4,5,6,1) - solo nc?
00:12:114 (1,4) - blanket
00:27:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - put this notes in x:415 y:200
00:30:864 (1) - nc
00:37:614 (10) - ^
00:49:614 (1,3) - stack it properly
01:06:489 (3,5) - blanket
01:20:364 (7,8) - fix overlap
02:12:114 (4) - nc
03:32:364 (1,1,1) - fix overlap
03:40:614 (7,1) - stack

done
good luck in ranking

abanes16 wrote: 5w5e1g

[mythology]
00:00:864 (1) - remove ncdone
00:01:239 (4) - ncdone
00:02:364 (8) - remove ncdone
00:09:864 (4,5,6,1) - solo nc?didnt understand what you were saying.can you pm me to explain if you have time?
00:12:114 (1,4) - blanketfixed
00:27:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - put this notes in x:415 y:200ok
00:30:864 (1) - ncok
00:37:614 (10) - ^^
00:49:614 (1,3) - stack it properlyok
01:06:489 (3,5) - blanketok
01:20:364 (7,8) - fix overlapdone
02:12:114 (4) - ncdone
03:32:364 (1,1,1) - fix overlapreworked
03:40:614 (7,1) - stackdone

done
good luck in ranking TNX FOR THE HELP

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