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This looks pretty sweet, having a group of BNs working together should be more productive than having everyone work independently - sharing ideas, promoting the most worthy maps and encouraging more people to mod... Sounds like a hit to me (:
Would be good to do something like this for CtB since we have so few active modders D:
Good luck with the group!
Would be good to do something like this for CtB since we have so few active modders D:
Good luck with the group!
@Baraatje: This will be announced soon.
@Cxu: Only Taiko mods. If other modes would be included, we couldn't generate mods for Taiko in a sufficient way. I guess you are worried about GDs? The guest differ should slowly learn to find mods by their own anyway.
Edit: lol, three people posted at the same time.
@Cxu: Only Taiko mods. If other modes would be included, we couldn't generate mods for Taiko in a sufficient way. I guess you are worried about GDs? The guest differ should slowly learn to find mods by their own anyway.
Edit: lol, three people posted at the same time.
www http://puu.sh/jLpte/590109d261.jpgOnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u
Edit: lol, three people posted at the same time.
Sorry that I didn't explain it in a more detailed way in PM. You may coordinate with the guests and let them have a try when the TNA queue is formally open.CXu wrote: 344051
Does this include all mods, or only taiko mods?OzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p
- You show three recent mods of yours on any map you want.
I hope it would be more clear to you now.
Thursdays are the SCHEDULED openings.IntelliTroodon wrote: 6p4f1q
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
It may open on some times beside that. Also, be sure to check it often because you don't know if a map is going to be rejected, in which case a slot is freed and it opens again.
Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.IntelliTroodon wrote: 6p4f1q
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
That way it would be flawed as well because no one knows which maps are going to be rejected (unless you have a good amount of knowledge regarding Taiko mapping), and so people might as well spam F5 while they wait if the TNA has rejected any map.CXu wrote: 344051
Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.
I think it's fine the way it is right now...
That sounds interesting. Adding RNG to this system may be weird, but it's already RNG to try to figure out when we'll open up anyways huh. And yeah, the map quality won't matter considering that as long as they qualify for submission they would have been picked anyways. I don't know though.
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
I said more or less the exact same thing and you said I wasn't right to say that the system was flawed in this way T.TRaiden wrote: m65e
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
I agree, as the participating BNs are only allowed to mod stuff from this queue, I am limited to request mods from the Taiko BNs that are not participants. I'm required to show 3 Taiko mods, but I am an STD modder trying to get a BN took look at the Taiko portion of a hybrid mapset. As answered earlier, I have to get the GDers to mod 3 maps.. something Id rather not make them do (also one GDer is a participant BN in this queue) sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm bad at explaining and just wanted to add my opinion. :3Raiden wrote: m65e
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
Okey I hope I won't have to do that to youOzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p
You are the owner of the set, you have power over GDers, if they won't look to get the map icon'd then slit their throats.
lol jk, okey I'll try to order the GDers but that's mean ;w;... Prophecy's been afk for a bit ~_~ bc school just started for some people
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But dayum Ozzy you really have made a distinguished line from your personal and your professional osu! lifestyles ~_~
Can we do something about time zones? Because I've noticed that no one from NA/SA can get in because it always opens at weird times. I've been trying since day one and I've never found it before it got closed :/
EDIT: I asked ono about it earlier and he said to try and get the asian mappers that have guest difficulties to put it in the queue, but that really isn't fair to them or a permanent solution
EDIT: I asked ono about it earlier and he said to try and get the asian mappers that have guest difficulties to put it in the queue, but that really isn't fair to them or a permanent solution
Thanks very much. Sorry about that x.xNardoxyribonucleic wrote: 2v127
As the opening post stated, there is no time limit if you mod one of the maps in the special list. But keep in mind that we will constantly remove maps from the list when they have been modded two times or upon creator's request of removal.
And please keep the queue purely for requests. If you want to discuss or have something to ask, you may visit the announcement thread of TNA.
Well, we have times already, as in, who opens a round next. But we can't give the exact hour, as everyone of us has something to do which shifts the times. We have our first week were we are a kinda off, as one of the is off. Once we settled that I will post the days they open a round. Winter queue starts soon, too.
My apologize that it's atm a bit slow. Having a lot to do. But I guess it is still better that you guys know it now, instead of waiting for an answer by every single modder, as it was in the past the case.
My apologize that it's atm a bit slow. Having a lot to do. But I guess it is still better that you guys know it now, instead of waiting for an answer by every single modder, as it was in the past the case.
Maybe, I guess Christmas song is High Priority then normal song. but in case, it depends on the quality of maps yuz.,-Sh1n1- wrote: 5a4118
I have a doubt, there will be slots for christmas round? Or it will be free?
words with [b] is same as I feels. Raiden like angry teacher and takuke h8 meh lel.-Sh1n1- wrote: 5a4118
Since TNA began, I think that is too hard to rank a map for people like me, because I work all day and I don't have time to wait for queue, I don't want to bother Raiden and tasuke all the time, furthermore you allways open the queue at midnight of my country lool rip sh1n1 u.u
Hello~ ,sorry for suddenly
I have a new suggestion about TNA system
~Overview~
First, TNA have a problem that number of maps that accepts is too small
Therefore, we have missed the opportunity to see a lot of high quality map,,,
So, I think I would like to suggest.
1.Providing a new job title. The job title can be allowed to be submitted to the TNA
2.The job title can take the mapper that possession of kudos 100 or more
How was this proposal?
I'm glad if you use my plan !
Thank you!
I have a new suggestion about TNA system
~Overview~
First, TNA have a problem that number of maps that accepts is too small
Therefore, we have missed the opportunity to see a lot of high quality map,,,
So, I think I would like to suggest.
1.Providing a new job title. The job title can be allowed to be submitted to the TNA
2.The job title can take the mapper that possession of kudos 100 or more
How was this proposal?
I'm glad if you use my plan !
Thank you!
OnosakiHito wrote: y4t4u
EdamaMe411: You mean people who are experienced can put their maps into the TNA without waiting? Or do you mean having people normal s in the team as well who have 100 kudosu?
Not that either. Only I just proposed that it is better to provide a new group that allows you to submit a map to the TNA.
Conditions for ission to the group that it is a modder that earns kudos 100 or more/modder that have a ranked map.But this conditionsis just an example.
Oh, previously I had something like that in mind. But with the current amount of BNs we can't do that. It would be an additional task for the BNs - checking everytime maps which are suggested. Beside that, I think it would rather interrupt the TNA process. Most people believe their maps are flawless, but then, in most cases, it happens that they are not. It would be less different to what we do now. But be sure that I won't abandon the idea entirely.EdamaMe411 wrote: 4u5n1o
Not that either. Only I just proposed that it is better to provide a new group that allows you to submit a map to the TNA.
Conditions for ission to the group that it is a modder that earns kudos 100 or more/modder that have a ranked map.But this conditionsis just an example.
Yo note that i don't have any problem with any of the BNs, just gonna write facts.
Sooo the queue is getting used to open only once per two weeks, offering 2 or 3 slots each time, which basically means a max of 6 slots per month. Pretty much all BNs are part of it, which means you can't rank a taiko map without using this queue (don't tell me BNs from other game modes can also rank taiko maps, they can but they have no experience in taiko so this is rather dangerous or pointless).
If you keep this up we can expect 6 ranked taiko maps per month, not even counting rejected maps (you used to randomly post after rejecting a map so we could post new maps, but this rarely happen now it seems).
Maybe everyone in the queue is busy af atm ? You can't waste 8 peoples for such result, so i would like to see some explanations about why this is happening and when can we expect changes/improvement. Also i hope so you are not counting on new BNs to save this.
If i did not care about ranking maps or if i was never missing the queue i would probably not write this buuuut... missed the queue for the 4th time in a row now and i will probably keep missing it for some reasons, so should peoples like me just stop trying to have their maps ranked because of this queue ?_? You added an unfairly factor in the ranking system here, for that only reason this queue should've never existed anyways lol.
(o shit 666th post)
Sooo the queue is getting used to open only once per two weeks, offering 2 or 3 slots each time, which basically means a max of 6 slots per month. Pretty much all BNs are part of it, which means you can't rank a taiko map without using this queue (don't tell me BNs from other game modes can also rank taiko maps, they can but they have no experience in taiko so this is rather dangerous or pointless).
If you keep this up we can expect 6 ranked taiko maps per month, not even counting rejected maps (you used to randomly post after rejecting a map so we could post new maps, but this rarely happen now it seems).
Maybe everyone in the queue is busy af atm ? You can't waste 8 peoples for such result, so i would like to see some explanations about why this is happening and when can we expect changes/improvement. Also i hope so you are not counting on new BNs to save this.
If i did not care about ranking maps or if i was never missing the queue i would probably not write this buuuut... missed the queue for the 4th time in a row now and i will probably keep missing it for some reasons, so should peoples like me just stop trying to have their maps ranked because of this queue ?_? You added an unfairly factor in the ranking system here, for that only reason this queue should've never existed anyways lol.
(o shit 666th post)
But if TNA was working well it should not happen since, as stated by the rules :Nwolf wrote: 2x5s6v
BNs still do stuff outside of the queue, ranking maps that are in a good enough state to be ranked without any more big BN mods
"participating BNs are not allowed to take requests outside of this shared queue"
@Raiden by writing "i hope so you are not counting on new BNs to save this" i meant even if they stay outside of it, TNA is still slowing the system down. As you said it will be "more fair", but we still have 8 peoples stuck in a system where they are not supposed to check maps as they want to. What if i want a check from a specific BN who is in the queue ?
The thing is, they agreed to accept that rule, and they are free to leave whenever they want. It's rather the specific BN's problem whether they want to mod (be it in or outside TNA) or just leave TNA, they can do that at any given moment.
As for me, I'll be back in a week, hang on...
(I know no one asked me ;w;)
As for me, I'll be back in a week, hang on...
(I know no one asked me ;w;)
Glad you are asking and pointing this out. I have no problem to explain current situation. Though, you might be a little tired because I will probably repeat myself when talking about the past.
Currently we are having 6 Taiko BNs in our community which two of them are absent for a longer time until they finished their exam / semester. So in total we are left with 4 in the whole community. Additional to this, the TNA only contains 3 of these BNs, while one of them is just helping a bit out(tasuke). Having in mind that the queue regulates the number of accepted maps and new rounds by its number of active , it should be obvious that we can't compensate a high amount of requests as we used to in previous months.
It's rather remarkable that the were able to last until the last month without new BN additions. Normaly we expected it to happen sooner, so we have a balanced ration between BNs who work together and those who work by their own. In this way we can also exchange the BNs if they want, so they can switch from working alone to a group from time to time. That moment will be hopefully reached with the new BN addition. Currently with only 3(4) BNs left, it should be obvious that it is impossible to keep it up with or without a team like the TNA.
And now here comes the part you might be tired of: As I said a few times already, this regulation is still better compared to the old way we went - getting requests by mapper and never reply again + BNs being more than stressed.
Edit: Oh, now I see where you got the number of 8 . But 3 of them are not BNs at all. And maybe we should announce when certain BNs are absent. So everyone is updated at least.
Currently we are having 6 Taiko BNs in our community which two of them are absent for a longer time until they finished their exam / semester. So in total we are left with 4 in the whole community. Additional to this, the TNA only contains 3 of these BNs, while one of them is just helping a bit out(tasuke). Having in mind that the queue regulates the number of accepted maps and new rounds by its number of active , it should be obvious that we can't compensate a high amount of requests as we used to in previous months.
It's rather remarkable that the were able to last until the last month without new BN additions. Normaly we expected it to happen sooner, so we have a balanced ration between BNs who work together and those who work by their own. In this way we can also exchange the BNs if they want, so they can switch from working alone to a group from time to time. That moment will be hopefully reached with the new BN addition. Currently with only 3(4) BNs left, it should be obvious that it is impossible to keep it up with or without a team like the TNA.
And now here comes the part you might be tired of: As I said a few times already, this regulation is still better compared to the old way we went - getting requests by mapper and never reply again + BNs being more than stressed.
Edit: Oh, now I see where you got the number of 8 . But 3 of them are not BNs at all. And maybe we should announce when certain BNs are absent. So everyone is updated at least.