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supercell feat. Hatsune Miku - BLACK ROCK SHOOTER 4b6n7

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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Mei wrote: 3h1f57

gratz (:3[_____]
Arigatou~ Thanks again for your bubble. :D
Avena
2,158 posts
ed December 2012
00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Priti wrote: 442112

00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.
Which diff are you reffering to?
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e

Priti wrote: 442112

00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.
Which diff are you reffering to?
To my diff, he has some deep hatred for me.

Priti wrote: 442112

00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.
At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?
Pho
1,785 posts
ed November 2013

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k

lol nice nya xd
<3
I thought you were ded oO

I feel like the Extra diff has issues with spacing control and many forced flows like 01:14:787 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - or the one mentioned by Priti; it doesn't really look like this diff is ready for ranked yet. :/

Avishay wrote: x5733

At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?
Not sure who told you this, but this sounds completely wrong/overmapped to me as there isn't a noticeable beat at the blue tick, it's just a fainting note from the e-guitar. I supposed you wanted to do something like this:
SPOILER

Welp, whatever, just ing by~
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

Pho wrote: 275c35

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k

lol nice nya xd
<3
I thought you were ded oO

I feel like the Extra diff has issues with spacing control and many forced flows like 01:14:787 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - or the one mentioned by Priti; it doesn't really look like this diff is ready for ranked yet. :/

Avishay wrote: x5733

At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?
Not sure who told you this, but this sounds completely wrong/overmapped to me as there isn't a noticeable beat at the blue tick, it's just a fainting note from the e-guitar. I supposed you wanted to do something like this:
SPOILER

Welp, whatever, just ing by~
Originally I followed the drums only there, but I was requested by Kenterz to follow the guitar as well, to remove the awkward space.
As for the other pattern, what's the purpose of saying "forced flow"? I cut the stream into 3 parts and increased spacing gradually.
TicClick
Global
4,455 posts
ed February 2011
Hello, I am going to disqualify this mapset for the following:

[Avishay's Extra]
  1. 00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - this pattern looks and feels random and forced among the others that surround it, moreover, 6 should not start on blue tick, as it makes it way less readable/playable.
  2. At least these objects are wrongly snapped:
    1. 00:37:696 (4) - should be 2×1/6 + 1/4: http://puu.sh/gaZet/f076c6ee4f.jpg, or just 4×1/6
    2. 00:39:877 (1) - ^
    3. 00:41:150 (7,8,1) - 2×1/6 + 1/4
    4. 01:10:514 (8) - should be 1/6 as well
    This also applies to all difficulties that have objects at these timestamps.
Why did I say "at least"? Because it seems that the situation is, in fact, worse, and the map is mistimed. For example, take 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) or 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) — still Avishay's difficulty — and pay attention to how 4 and 5 sound. I have no means to check the timing right now, so you may want to start looking for someone who is able to help you.

There also may be a better solution; try finding a better .mp3 file [if it exists] and see if the drum line is in sync.

Last, but not least: please, get some more mods, especially on Extra, to improve its quality; Desperate has already asked you to do so two weeks ago: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/p/3858357, and I'm gonna him on his request.

P.S. You know the usual procedure: after everything that was a problem is fixed, you may start looking for nominators again.
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

TicClick wrote: s5g5y

Hello, I am going to disqualify this mapset for the following:

[Avishay's Extra]
  1. 00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - this pattern looks and feels random and forced among the others that surround it, moreover, 6 should not start on blue tick, as it makes it way less readable/playable.
  2. At least these objects are wrongly snapped:
    1. 00:37:696 (4) - should be 2×1/6 + 1/4: http://puu.sh/gaZet/f076c6ee4f.jpg, or just 4×1/6
    2. 00:39:877 (1) - ^
    3. 00:41:150 (7,8,1) - 2×1/6 + 1/4
    4. 01:10:514 (8) - should be 1/6 as well
    This also applies to all difficulties that have objects at these timestamps.
Why did I say "at least"? Because it seems that the situation is, in fact, worse, and the map is mistimed. For example, take 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) or 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) — still Avishay's difficulty — and pay attention to how 4 and 5 sound. I have no means to check the timing right now, so you may want to start looking for someone who is able to help you.

There also may be a better solution; try finding a better .mp3 file [if it exists] and see if the drum line is in sync.

Last, but not least: please, get some more mods, especially on Extra, to improve its quality; Desperate has already asked you to do so two weeks ago: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/p/3858357, and I'm gonna him on his request.

P.S. You know the usual procedure: after everything that was a problem is fixed, you may start looking for nominators again.
Alright, I had everything timed properly before, but I was requested by modders and BNs to make it a simple 1/4, simply because it is too irregular and following all the 1/12,1/6 and 1/8 snapped beats will feel wrong.

I honestly don't know what to say about the first thing you noted, it was just fine but I was requested by Kenterz to change it, since it was too empty and awkward, so I tried to not mess up too much and changed it for how it is now.

I invite you to take a look at older mods / diff versions and see that I had a lot of proper snaps, but they were irregular compared to the 1/4 everyone is so used to.

I'll happily stick to the precise timing of everything, but people will have a bad time playing it, no matter how you map it, really. I think Milan's diff is as good as it is now, and changing the timing to complex patterns will ruin its' quality.

Please have some more discussions about this, as for now I just reverted the change I made in the first pattern, and removed the slider (6).

SPOILER 
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TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv_size milan- Avishay ryo
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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Ok, the timing of the entire map is fine.
So I guess I'll just get more mods for Avishay's diff since Milan's diff and my diffs are fine.

It's not such a big issue. I'll get this map up and running again.
Milan-
1,473 posts
ed August 2011
Better get someone to edit the mp3 manually. Everything is out of sync imo (that's why things ends on 1/12 1/8 etc, which is unplayable).
Or get somone good at timming and get an unplayable 1000 red lines, like ticclick said i think
(not sure if pishifat still do it, you can ask him i guess lolol)
HabiHolic
5,460 posts
ed October 2012
00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - hmm... suggust?

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Brazzers_old_1
Brazzers_old_1
If this is still disqualified
After playing Avishay's sexy extra diff I noticed that I literally can't get HR accuracy on it if I play it without modifying the offset, let's test it nomod

That's with the regular offset


I'll edit this in like 10 minutes when I find a good local offset for me

edit:
-9ms local offset feels better



Pretty sure it's the offset

Also in the song's metadata, afaik vocaloid names shouldn't be used in the artist field so it should be just "supercell" and to have hatsune_miku on tags or something
Ringating
717 posts
ed August 2013
from pm

none of the mp3s I found fixed your problem (tho someone else may be posting a fixed version shortly), but your bg was pretty gross (somewhat squished vertically, compression artifacts) so I got you a much cleaner image.
bg
the png is pretty efficient here, so I suggest leaving it as one
no kds
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,817 posts
ed August 2013
drums are less stupid with this mp3 at offset 1430

also use ringating's background ;-;
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013
I could go over the map and snap everything correctly, but as Milan said it will be unplayable since everything will be irregular and out of sync, and if I have to snap objects correctly in my diff, Milan will probably have to do so too.

HabiHolic wrote: 4a2p2z

00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - hmm... suggust?

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I thank you for trying to come up with something, but after looking at this pattern for a while, I honestly think it will be better to leave 00:11:423 and 00:11:514 unmapped.
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Thanks so much for your help guys~
I changed the BG, it looks very nice. Thanks Ringating!~
I changed the mp3. The diffs play so nicely now. Thanks pishifat!~

Updated my diffs and Avishay's diff. Now I'm just waiting for Milan- . . .
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013
New MP3 fixed a lot of the weird rhythms.
Modem
3,013 posts
ed February 2014
Go! Get this map ranked again -Nya-! I'll always you~ (> w <)/
Have a star~★
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013
Got some minor play tests and IRC mods.

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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Modem wrote: 30576d

Go! Get this map ranked again -Nya-! I'll always you~ (> w <)/
Have a star~★
Thanks for your , Modem-chan~ :D
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Ok, I fixed Milan's diff and updated the other diffs.
Time to get this ranked~ :)
bibilicu
3,578 posts
ed October 2013
Would you like to rebubble it ? :3 But I'm not an BN yet
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

ByBy_ChAn wrote: 2a4e2c

Would you like to rebubble it ? :3 But I'm not an BN yet
Lol, yeah, I want to. I'm already busy asking BN's so don't worry. This will be reranked soon~
Milan-
1,473 posts
ed August 2011

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e

Ok, I fixed Milan's diff and updated the other diffs.
Time to get this ranked~ :)
aii sorry i was kinda afk, but it was just offset change so thanks xD
btw did you change the video offset too?owo
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Oh poo, I totally forgot about the vid.
Lol XD I'll fix it tomorrow.
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,846 posts
ed August 2013
general
  1. tbh i really think it wouldve been better if you just cut the full version of this song, usually tv sizes are crappy quality
ill mod extra for now
  • so ill be pointing out some asthetic issues and structure i guess
  1. 00:02:885 (1,2) - it doesn't look good to have things barely overlap like this, either overlap them more or space it out
    00:34:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
    00:35:430 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
    01:25:430 (1) - ^
  2. 00:07:612 (3) - move the last slider point up by a tad (for blanket)
  3. 00:08:340 (5,6) - u can just combine this to 1 slider, gives more diversity
    00:26:520 (7,8) - ^
  4. 00:08:703 (1,2) - work on ur blanketing skills lol
  5. 00:10:885 (5) - nc will help in the middle of a big jump pattern, you can also change it up so that it's not just a triangle thing all the way through
  6. 00:11:703 (2,3,4) - turn this into a 1/2 slider, that rhythm will be better
  7. 00:12:340 (6) - no need a slider, a circle will work fine
  8. 00:14:158 (3,1) - in general, try to get rid of most 1/1 gaps as they stop flow and make things a bit awkward in this case u can turn 00:14:158 (3) - into a 1/2 slider to make it connect better
    00:15:612 (6) - ^
    00:49:067 (8,1) - ^
  9. 00:16:340 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - try experimenting with different jump lengths, atm they're just roughly the same and its boring to play. just stronger beats should get bigger jumps. which means 00:17:249 (7,1) - should definitely be a bigger jump
  10. 00:24:521 (5) - maybe nc here, this pattern is kinda troll
  11. 00:27:521 (2) - why overmap.
  12. 00:29:067 (1) - dont skip a drum sound just to extend the slider..
  13. 00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - wth dont try to be skystar pls lol
  14. 00:39:340 (2,3,4,5) - at least try to make this look even.
  15. 01:12:521 (5,6,2) - tone down the overmap for uir kiai parts.
    01:23:158 (2) - ^
  16. 01:16:703 (1) - try something like this, looks better imo
    SPOILER
  17. 01:27:430 (1,2,1,2) - i feel like this should be in the same combo
  18. Your NCing also needs to be redone. It's not consistent, i recommend every downbeat as an easy way to make it consistent.
  19. hitsounds i guess.. will need some consluting

    general advice
  20. you should try to create a feel of intensity. so slower parts in the song should deserve simpler rhythm, and smaller jumps as opposed to a kiai which should be bigger jumps and more complicated rhythm
  21. either cover 1/1 gaps with a 1/2 slider or an antijump, otherwise sometimes it will be annoying to read.
guineaQ
1,588 posts
ed December 2013
err I might look at extra after Avishay reply to Quib's mod
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Thanks so much guys~
I'm sure Avishay will reply to Kibbleru's mod soon.
Adol Christin
875 posts
ed October 2012
Finished reading the thread from page 12. Gonna wait as well.
Right. A bit busy recently. I'll mod asap.
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Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

Kibbleru wrote: 6p3k2d

general
  1. tbh i really think it wouldve been better if you just cut the full version of this song, usually tv sizes are crappy quality
ill mod extra for now
  • so ill be pointing out some asthetic issues and structure i guess
  1. 00:02:885 (1,2) - it doesn't look good to have things barely overlap like this, either overlap them more or space it out v
    00:34:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ v
    00:35:430 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ v
    01:25:430 (1) - ^ v
  2. 00:07:612 (3) - move the last slider point up by a tad (for blanket) v
  3. 00:08:340 (5,6) - u can just combine this to 1 slider, gives more diversity Nah, I want to be consistent and I prefer it this way.
    00:26:520 (7,8) - ^ ^
  4. 00:08:703 (1,2) - work on ur blanketing skills lol Improved :S
  5. 00:10:885 (5) - nc will help in the middle of a big jump pattern, you can also change it up so that it's not just a triangle thing all the way through Added NC
  6. 00:11:703 (2,3,4) - turn this into a 1/2 slider, that rhythm will be better Better indeed on strong notes.
  7. 00:12:340 (6) - no need a slider, a circle will work fine I prefer the slider here.
  8. 00:14:158 (3,1) - in general, try to get rid of most 1/1 gaps as they stop flow and make things a bit awkward in this case u can turn 00:14:158 (3) - into a 1/2 slider to make it connect better I don't want a 1/2 slider where it ends on nothing and feels awkward, made a long slider and changed the pattern to be nicer overall.
    00:15:612 (6) - ^ ^
    00:49:067 (8,1) - ^ V
  9. 00:16:340 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - try experimenting with different jump lengths, atm they're just roughly the same and its boring to play. just stronger beats should get bigger jumps. which means 00:17:249 (7,1) - should definitely be a bigger jump Reworked pattern.
  10. 00:24:521 (5) - maybe nc here, this pattern is kinda troll There used to be a NC.. And some people said it is confusing with NC.. Used NC again.
  11. 00:27:521 (2) - why overmap. Goes with the vocals and consistency with pattern.
  12. 00:29:067 (1) - dont skip a drum sound just to extend the slider.. I think it sounds better like this, I want to follow the long vocal while maintaining the strong beat pressable.
  13. 00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - wth dont try to be skystar pls lol 00:32:612 (5,6) - Both are on strong beats and 00:32:520 is not, I want to maintain the current pattern as I think it goes nicely.
  14. 00:39:340 (2,3,4,5) - at least try to make this look even. I am not sure how this got f*ck up like this, fixed.
  15. 01:12:521 (5,6,2) - tone down the overmap for uir kiai parts. If I delete the first 2, there'll be a blank beat and it will be awkward, the triplet is a nice build-up for the vocal and the third note goes nicely with the long vocal, I think it is just fine, the hitsound do well here as well.
    01:23:158 (2) - ^ Weps, doesn't do well, removed.
  16. 01:16:703 (1) - try something like this, looks better imo I like it, changed.
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  17. 01:27:430 (1,2,1,2) - i feel like this should be in the same combo I don't :P
  18. Your NCing also needs to be redone. It's not consistent, i recommend every downbeat as an easy way to make it consistent. I think they are fine, I went through everything and everything is there for a reason..
  19. hitsounds i guess.. will need some consluting [/color]

    general advice
  20. you should try to create a feel of intensity. so slower parts in the song should deserve simpler rhythm, and smaller jumps as opposed to a kiai which should be bigger jumps and more complicated rhythm
  21. either cover 1/1 gaps with a 1/2 slider or an antijump, otherwise sometimes it will be annoying to read.
Thank you for the great mod, I've learned new stuff and hopefully improve my maps thanks to you and other people.

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Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,846 posts
ed August 2013
quick check on the other diffs too
no kd

insane
  1. fine probably
hard
  1. hitsounds need to be better. you don't even use any claps t/306177 please read the beginning ish
  2. 00:21:066 (6,1) - space this out more, its a bit too similar to 00:21:793 (1,2) -
  3. 00:23:248 (1) - i think u can continue the 1/2 sliders to here, makes it connect better
  4. 01:22:339 (1,2,3) - this is just such a diff spike compared to the rest of the diff.. i don't understand why
normal
  1. same hitsound thing as hard
  2. 01:07:430 - wrong place for clap i think
easy
  1. seemed okay
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Ok, updated Avishay's diff.
Will fix my diffs later, but I just want to get Avishay's diff sorted out first.
JudgeTheDude
595 posts
ed September 2011
Hi, from my queue

[Easy]
  1. 00:30:520 (5,1) - They don't follow quite well, maybe rotate 00:30:520 (5) a bit and move it's orgin down a bit
  2. 00:37:793 (2,3,1) - Those three don't follow quite well. Maybe open 00:37:793 (2) a bit more to make the curve made by it's tail, 3 and 4 a bit more natural
  3. 01:00:339 (2) - Same here, open the curve a bit more so it looks and plays better

[Normal]
  1. 00:05:066 (2,3) - There's a spacing issue there, you come from 1.0x to 1.22x
  2. 00:20:884 (4) - This note feels weird. I think you can delete it. It doesn't follow any part of the music, and the pattern looks better without it
  3. 00:26:884 (4) - Up the central pat of that Slider a bit, so it follow the previous slider's line
  4. 01:03:611 (3,4,5,6,7) - This star pattern looks a bit weird. Try to adjust it. 7 or 5 isn't placed correctly

[Hard]
  1. 00:24:520 (6,7,8) - Why not blanket it ? It looks better. But you'll have to reshape the 3 notes
  2. 00:25:066 (1,2) - That doesn't look good. Either make the slider's curves a bit more pronounced, or rotate it. But try to make (1) blanket (2)
  3. 01:00:157 (2,3) - Adjust them to follow 00:59:611 (1)
  4. 01:04:339 (2,3) - They don't follow 01:03:975 (1) 's shape
  5. 01:09:611 (4) - You can improve that shape so it goes toward 01:10:157 (5)
  6. 01:20:520 (3,4) - They don't follow quite great

Sorry, I don't have the skills to mod Insane and Extra :/

To sum it up, there are lots of sliders that don't properly align with the notes they are followed by, or they follow. It's not a big issue, but it makes some parts feel awkward to play, and by fixing them, yout maps can look a lot better.

But good luck for rank !
Adol Christin
875 posts
ed October 2012
Greeting Avishay, from -Nya-'s in-game PM.

Black Rock Shooter, supercell~ ;)

A's Extra 254hc

  1. 00:32:340 (3,4) - Not really suitable using 2 1/4 circles due to the music.
  2. 00:41:794 (7,8,1) - Slightly increase the distance.
  3. 00:51:067 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Suggest to change 5 to circle as well. They have the same sound in the music (I don't know the name of this sound, xD).
  4. 01:18:703 (2,3,4) - I personally dislike the flow.
  5. 01:20:067 (8,9) - Whistle?
  6. 00:07:612 (3) - I would prefer ctrl+g. This would make a better flow for 00:07:067 (4,5,1,2,3) - and a little jump for the next slider.
  7. 00:08:703 (1,2) - Wanna cover the short slider by the long one? But they are too close to each other, which looks weird.
  8. 00:10:158 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The hitsound should be the same from 4 to 4. I deleted your items and carefully listened to the music here, the drum sound in the song is the same all the time.
  9. 00:23:612 (3,1,2,3) - I personally hate this: anti-flow and jump. Suggest to change 00:23:794 (1,2,3) - to an opposite direction.
  10. 00:25:794 (5) - Prefer 1/2 slider+a circle.
  11. 00:31:067 (3,4) - Slider first, then circle. For vocal. In this case it's fine for me not to keep the sliderhead on a snare sound.
  12. 00:43:249 (9,1) - Switch clap and whistle.
  13. 00:47:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Use standard 2/4 clap hitsound please. The song does not change.
  14. 01:17:067 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
  15. 00:48:340 (3) - Even the drum sound slightly changed, it is still a kick sound. Whistle is quite weird for me.
  16. 01:05:067 (1) - Clap

That's all my mod. I am new to mod an Extra diff. Hope it can help.

Good luck for req~
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

Adol Christin wrote: 24s5o

Greeting Avishay, from -Nya-'s in-game PM.

Black Rock Shooter, supercell~ ;)

A's Extra 254hc

  1. 00:32:340 (3,4) - Not really suitable using 2 1/4 circles due to the music. I think that's fine, refer to Kibbleru's mod if you want to.
  2. 00:41:794 (7,8,1) - Slightly increase the distance. Why?
  3. 00:51:067 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Suggest to change 5 to circle as well. They have the same sound in the music (I don't know the name of this sound, xD). I think it goes just fine as it is.
  4. 01:18:703 (2,3,4) - I personally dislike the flow. Reworked a bit.
  5. 01:20:067 (8,9) - Whistle? V
  6. 00:07:612 (3) - I would prefer ctrl+g. This would make a better flow for 00:07:067 (4,5,1,2,3) - and a little jump for the next slider. It would be overdoing it imo, I think it is fine.
  7. 00:08:703 (1,2) - Wanna cover the short slider by the long one? But they are too close to each other, which looks weird. Fixed.
  8. 00:10:158 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The hitsound should be the same from 4 to 4. I deleted your items and carefully listened to the music here, the drum sound in the song is the same all the time. Fixed.
  9. 00:23:612 (3,1,2,3) - I personally hate this: anti-flow and jump. Suggest to change 00:23:794 (1,2,3) - to an opposite direction. Should be better now
  10. 00:25:794 (5) - Prefer 1/2 slider+a circle. I like it as it is now.
  11. 00:31:067 (3,4) - Slider first, then circle. For vocal. In this case it's fine for me not to keep the sliderhead on a snare sound. Changed.
  12. 00:43:249 (9,1) - Switch clap and whistle. V
  13. 00:47:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Use standard 2/4 clap hitsound please. The song does not change. I think that's fine, I don't have to use the same set if the music doesn't change drastically.
  14. 01:17:067 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
  15. 00:48:340 (3) - Even the drum sound slightly changed, it is still a kick sound. Whistle is quite weird for me. I think it is fine.
  16. 01:05:067 (1) - Clap V

That's all my mod. I am new to mod an Extra diff. Hope it can help.

Good luck for req~
Thanks!

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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Kibbleru wrote: 6p3k2d

quick check on the other diffs too
no kd

hard
  1. hitsounds need to be better. you don't even use any claps t/306177 please read the beginning ish Improved my hitsounding by adding more claps.
  2. 00:21:066 (6,1) - space this out more, its a bit too similar to 00:21:793 (1,2) - Fixed
  3. 00:23:248 (1) - i think u can continue the 1/2 sliders to here, makes it connect better Followed your suggestion
  4. 01:22:339 (1,2,3) - this is just such a diff spike compared to the rest of the diff.. i don't understand why Hm, not really. Since the song is pretty intense there, I think that pattern fits nicely.
normal
  1. same hitsound thing as hard Yeah, added more claps.
  2. 01:07:430 - wrong place for clap i think Yeah it is. Fixed.
easy
  1. seemed okay
Thanks, Kibbleru-san~! :D
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

JudgeTheDude wrote: 4al1d

Hi, from my queue

[Easy]
  1. 00:30:520 (5,1) - They don't follow quite well, maybe rotate 00:30:520 (5) a bit and move it's orgin down a bit Hm, I think it's fine.
  2. 00:37:793 (2,3,1) - Those three don't follow quite well. Maybe open 00:37:793 (2) a bit more to make the curve made by it's tail, 3 and 4 a bit more natural I don't know . . . they look fine to me.
  3. 01:00:339 (2) - Same here, open the curve a bit more so it looks and plays better I wanted to make a nice blanket there so I can't really open it more.

[Normal]
  1. 00:05:066 (2,3) - There's a spacing issue there, you come from 1.0x to 1.22x You're right. Fixed.
  2. 00:20:884 (4) - This note feels weird. I think you can delete it. It doesn't follow any part of the music, and the pattern looks better without it Ok, removed the note.
  3. 00:26:884 (4) - Up the central pat of that Slider a bit, so it follow the previous slider's line Nah, it's not really such a big issue.
  4. 01:03:611 (3,4,5,6,7) - This star pattern looks a bit weird. Try to adjust it. 7 or 5 isn't placed correctly ^

[Hard]
  1. 00:24:520 (6,7,8) - Why not blanket it ? It looks better. But you'll have to reshape the 3 notes It'll mess with the flow if I try blanketing them.
  2. 00:25:066 (1,2) - That doesn't look good. Either make the slider's curves a bit more pronounced, or rotate it. But try to make (1) blanket (2) Not really such a big issue.
  3. 01:00:157 (2,3) - Adjust them to follow 00:59:611 (1) ^
  4. 01:04:339 (2,3) - They don't follow 01:03:975 (1) 's shape ^
  5. 01:09:611 (4) - You can improve that shape so it goes toward 01:10:157 (5) ^
  6. 01:20:520 (3,4) - They don't follow quite great ^

Sorry, I don't have the skills to mod Insane and Extra :/

To sum it up, there are lots of sliders that don't properly align with the notes they are followed by, or they follow. It's not a big issue, but it makes some parts feel awkward to play, and by fixing them, yout maps can look a lot better.

But good luck for rank !
Thanks for the mod~
Sorry for not fixing much :(
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Updated all the diffs and fixed the video's offset.

@Milan- and Avishay: Please update your diffs to the latest version since I fixed the video's offset.
KSHR
osu! Alumni
1,668 posts
ed July 2010
Let me throw in my 2 cents.

[A's Extra]
  1. Most of objects (or all objects?) are 1ms off.
  2. 00:02:884 (1,2) - This rhythm sounds awkward to me because only the end of 00:03:067 (2) - is following the notable drum sound. In order to make consistent with other ones like 00:01:794 (3) - 00:02:521 (6) - , I'd suggest you rearranging the rhythm like the following image.

    (It should be fine to turn (1) into a 1/4 slider + a note, but this one sounds nicer at least to me.)
  3. 00:12:521 (5) - The guitar gets toned down around at 00:12:520 - and up around at 00:12:702 - (It may be just me though..), so if I were you, I'd place 2 notes instead of this slider.
  4. 00:28:158 (6,7) - Similar bass drum sounds are following with the slider end and the note. That's probably why the rhythm here doesn't sound naturally imo. Try following them with 2 notes like this. It should be better than the current idea ;)
  5. 00:29:067 (1) - I agree with Kibbleru's suggestion that the drum sound at 00:29:248 - should be followed with an object. Actually the drum line is followed at 00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - ? In of the rhythm consistent, it would be better to place a 1/2 slider here. (This is probably just me. I don't know why, but that way 00:29:067 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would sound better..)
  6. 00:46:339 (7,8) - For the similar reason to 00:28:158 (6,7) - , the rhythm swap should work well here. (I mean it would be better to follow bass drum sounds with notes.)

Posted my suggestions only on A's Insane because I don't have much time. Let me know in the forum pm if you need more detailed explanations or don't get what I meant. Good luck on requalifying! ;)
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

KSHR wrote: b1365

Let me throw in my 2 cents.

[A's Extra]
  1. Most of objects (or all objects?) are 1ms off.
  2. 00:02:884 (1,2) - This rhythm sounds awkward to me because only the end of 00:03:067 (2) - is following the notable drum sound. In order to make consistent with other ones like 00:01:794 (3) - 00:02:521 (6) - , I'd suggest you rearranging the rhythm like the following image.

    (It should be fine to turn (1) into a 1/4 slider + a note, but this one sounds nicer at least to me.) I completely agree, changed pattern around. I changed the slider, since its' end felt really weird to me, I tried a nice bunch of stuff and I think it is great now.
  3. 00:12:521 (5) - The guitar gets toned down around at 00:12:520 - and up around at 00:12:702 - (It may be just me though..), so if I were you, I'd place 2 notes instead of this slider. I tried to modify spacing and pattern and I think I got a great outcome.
  4. 00:28:158 (6,7) - Similar bass drum sounds are following with the slider end and the note. That's probably why the rhythm here doesn't sound naturally imo. Try following them with 2 notes like this. It should be better than the current idea ;)
    Changed! Pattern reworked a bit too.
  5. 00:29:067 (1) - I agree with Kibbleru's suggestion that the drum sound at 00:29:248 - should be followed with an object. Actually the drum line is followed at 00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - ? In of the rhythm consistent, it would be better to place a 1/2 slider here. (This is probably just me. I don't know why, but that way 00:29:067 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would sound better..) I placed 2 circles instead of a slider, a slider feels awkward because there's a blank beat before then and the slider is not presenting any beat with big impact, so I reworked this pattern too with the help of your explanation.
  6. 00:46:339 (7,8) - For the similar reason to 00:28:158 (6,7) - , the rhythm swap should work well here. (I mean it would be better to follow bass drum sounds with notes.) Reworked pattern.

Posted my suggestions only on A's Insane because I don't have much time. Let me know in the forum pm if you need more detailed explanations or don't get what I meant. Good luck on requalifying! ;)
Really good observations and explanations, thank you!

I should mention I played the map and changed / tweaked some problems.

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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Updated Avishay's diff~
Let's get this map requalified.
Osu Mapman
2,494 posts
ed August 2012
Let's see what i can do
[A's Extra]
00:03:520 (5,6) - it plays not that great because of stack what you did with 00:03:248 (4) - .Try to put it to X: 487 Y: 263, it'll make flow more enjoyable and give more emphazise to the next beat
00:04:157 (2) - i really don't like how you put it like that, due to these "bell" sounds i excepted something more jump-ish, what about something like this :
SPOILER
That jump will help you with ephazise when ending of the pattern gives you a nice transition to slider
00:05:611 - space here feels a bit akward because i still can hear a beat here (it's not that strong but still exists), how about 00:05:430 (8) - replacing it by slider?
00:05:975 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1) - it's more about suggestions. How about you increase spacing in these triplets gradually? Like that? Also you could try to do same with volume, it'll give that moment the feel of "increasing" what always feels cool, moreover, moment calls for it immo
00:14:884 (3,6) - this overlap looks messy because of combination of sharp and rounded sliders, i will appreciate if you remove this overlap or replace round slider by straight one
example
00:24:339 (7,1,2,3) - Please don't. It shouldn't be like that, because it plays awful, moreover, i think rhythms is :
Do not kd, i'll continue later
00:32:339 (3,4,5,6) - there is no worth in doing this because it gives a bad feel of rythmic, try to emphazise these sounds (what you tried to do with those doubles) in other way for example you could map it as slider with a bigger sv, or even as 1/4s sliders
00:38:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - it shouldn't be spaced like that, there is nothing to emphazise with that, use 1.0 or so, please
00:39:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - same thing
for justification: 00:34:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't touching these because it goes well with the music and you did here a nice job with emphazise, but what i mentonied... eh... music not that intense and making spacings same with that moment is kinda questionable
01:13:066 (3,4,5,6) - doesn't play good at all, try something like this
SPOILER
it'll make flow a bit better
01:15:430 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - okay, i appreciate that you trying emphazise vocals in this way, but please, try to do it a bit more... pretty i guess?
example
also i'm unsure about last part of stream because of same reasons with 00:38:884 and 00:39:975 but well, since it's ending of the song it won't be a big problem i guess
a word about hitsounds
at first, please, make a volume lower because sometimes i can't hear a song due to hitsounds, -10% for everything will work a bit better
00:10:157 (1) - definitely missing a finish
00:10:702 (4) - you can try adding a finish here for continue a hitsound pattern
00:11:248 (3) - same
00:13:066 (9) - remove clap and use a normal finish for this note it will emphazise ending of this part of song and start of another one
00:21:793 (1) - a finish please
00:22:520 (1) - and again you can add a finish here as well
00:23:248 (1) - and here
00:24:702 (1) - normal finish at the downbeat
00:25:793 (6) - i don't get why you used clap from other hitsound set, there is nothing to emphazise it like that, use clap what you used here 00:25:066 (2) - please
00:30:520 (1) - missing finish at the head
00:33:430 (1) - finish again
00:36:339 (1) - and again
00:38:884 (1) - you forgot about clap at the head
00:40:520 (1) - finish at the downbeat
00:41:430 (5) - finish
00:41:793 (7,8,1) - and again these claps sounds bad because song doesn't have any same samples in here, it don't work well as your arrangement as well because you didn't added any claps near that triplet, so i sugges you to replace it by whistles
00:42:157 (2) - finish
00:45:066 (1) - ^
00:45:611 (5) - ^ on head
00:46:157 (7) - ^
00:46:520 (8) - ^
00:47:975 (1) - remove clap and use normal finish here
00:56:702 (1) - and starting from this you should use a finish pattern what i suggest you earlier
00:59:611 (1) - remove whistle and use normal finish
01:13:430 (4) - clap should be added here but not at the 01:13:520 (5) -
01:17:066 (2) - finish at the head
01:18:520 (1) - a finish
01:22:884 (1) - and again
01:24:339 (1) - and here
i'll continue modding after hour sorry
oh well other diffs seemd fine to me, poke me after fixing
Last edited by Osu Mapman , edited 3 times in total.
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

EvilElvis wrote: ke6g

Let's see what i can do
[A's Extra]
00:03:520 (5,6) - it plays not that great because of stack what you did with 00:03:248 (4) - .Try to put it to X: 487 Y: 263, it'll make flow more enjoyable and give more emphazise to the next beat True that.
00:04:157 (2) - i really don't like how you put it like that, due to these "bell" sounds i excepted something more jump-ish, what about something like this :
SPOILER
I think the thing I had before was just fine but your suggestion feels a bit better.
That jump will help you with ephazise when ending of the pattern gives you a nice transition to slider
00:05:611 - space here feels a bit akward because i still can hear a beat here (it's not that strong but still exists), how about 00:05:430 (8) - replacing it by slider? Is it? ugh.. Well I listened closely and had to map 00:05:702 (9) - too, since it exists with the previous one.
00:05:975 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1) - it's more about suggestions. How about you increase spacing in these triplets gradually? Like that? Also you could try to do same with volume, it'll give that moment the feel of "increasing" what always feels cool, moreover, moment calls for it immo Nice one, I changed pattern and placements.
00:14:884 (3,6) - this overlap looks messy because of combination of sharp and rounded sliders, i will appreciate if you remove this overlap or replace round slider by straight one I think it looks just fine, actually it is an overlap I like.
example
00:24:339 (7,1,2,3) - Please don't. It shouldn't be like that, because it plays awful, moreover, i think rhythms is : I did not change the rhythm, the one you posted was incorrect, please listen closely again, but I did change the pattern, it should be easier to read now.
Do not kd, i'll continue later
Thank you, I'll wait for the continued mod :)

SPOILER 
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TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
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Version:A's Extra
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Hollow Wings
1,514 posts
ed July 2010
bubbled.


irc with creator. timing is ok now.

fix ex diff's quality issues, enable to be accepted to community now at least.
Osu Mapman
2,494 posts
ed August 2012
if you didn't found anybody to qualify it i'd like to finish my mod
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

EvilElvis wrote: ke6g

if you didn't found anybody to qualify it i'd like to finish my mod
Yes please
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

EvilElvis wrote: ke6g

if you didn't found anybody to qualify it i'd like to finish my mod
That'll be appreciated!
Osu Mapman
2,494 posts
ed August 2012
updated my post
Avishay
1,250 posts
ed April 2013

EvilElvis wrote: ke6g

[A's Extra]
Do not kd, i'll continue later
00:32:339 (3,4,5,6) - there is no worth in doing this because it gives a bad feel of rythmic, try to emphazise these sounds (what you tried to do with those doubles) in other way for example you could map it as slider with a bigger sv, or even as 1/4s sliders I think the rhythm plays just fine, it gets emphasized well from the patterm imo, and sliders kinda ruin it because you need to press everything.
00:38:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - it shouldn't be spaced like that, there is nothing to emphazise with that, use 1.0 or so, please Reduced to 1.25, 1.0 is a bit too small, change around too.
00:39:975 (1,2,3,4,5) - same thing ^
for justification: 00:34:884 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't touching these because it goes well with the music and you did here a nice job with emphazise, but what i mentonied... eh... music not that intense and making spacings same with that moment is kinda questionable To be fair, they were spaced less and some BN came and said I should increase the spacing, so I did. They play really nice imo so I don't see a reason to change, might be a bit hard to aim with HR.
01:13:066 (3,4,5,6) - doesn't play good at all, try something like this I disagree that it doesn't play good at all, but I changed the placement of the triple, no change to 01:13:793 (7) - though.
SPOILER
it'll make flow a bit better
01:15:430 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - okay, i appreciate that you trying emphazise vocals in this way, but please, try to do it a bit more... pretty i guess? It looks really nice imo.. The last pattern is a star, not just randomly thrown circles :S
example
also i'm unsure about last part of stream because of same reasons with 00:38:884 and 00:39:975 but well, since it's ending of the song it won't be a big problem i guess
a word about hitsounds
at first, please, make a volume lower because sometimes i can't hear a song due to hitsounds, -10% for everything will work a bit better I think the volume level is just fine, also you can change it within the game easily with ALT+Arrows/MouseWheel
00:10:157 (1) - definitely missing a finish
00:10:702 (4) - you can try adding a finish here for continue a hitsound pattern
00:11:248 (3) - same
00:13:066 (9) - remove clap and use a normal finish for this note it will emphazise ending of this part of song and start of another one
00:21:793 (1) - a finish please
00:22:520 (1) - and again you can add a finish here as well
00:23:248 (1) - and here
00:24:702 (1) - normal finish at the downbeat
00:25:793 (6) - i don't get why you used clap from other hitsound set, there is nothing to emphazise it like that, use clap what you used here 00:25:066 (2) - please
00:30:520 (1) - missing finish at the head
00:33:430 (1) - finish again
00:36:339 (1) - and again
00:38:884 (1) - you forgot about clap at the head
00:40:520 (1) - finish at the downbeat
00:41:430 (5) - finish
00:41:793 (7,8,1) - and again these claps sounds bad because song doesn't have any same samples in here, it don't work well as your arrangement as well because you didn't added any claps near that triplet, so i sugges you to replace it by whistles
00:42:157 (2) - finish
00:45:066 (1) - ^
00:45:611 (5) - ^ on head
00:46:157 (7) - ^
00:46:520 (8) - ^
00:47:975 (1) - remove clap and use normal finish here
00:56:702 (1) - and starting from this you should use a finish pattern what i suggest you earlier
00:59:611 (1) - remove whistle and use normal finish
01:13:430 (4) - clap should be added here but not at the 01:13:520 (5) - I follow the music here, the second note in the triplet is the strongest.
01:17:066 (2) - finish at the head
01:18:520 (1) - a finish
01:22:884 (1) - and again
01:24:339 (1) - and here
i'll continue modding after hour sorry
oh well other diffs seemd fine to me, poke me after fixing
Thank you very much! :3
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TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
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Creator:-Nya-
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-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter
Updated Avishay's diff~
Osu Mapman
2,494 posts
ed August 2012
Let's try to rank it again
Adol Christin
875 posts
ed October 2012
Finally... Gj
ZZHBOY
1,649 posts
ed April 2012
graz~
G9W0V2H0
G9W0V2H0

nice timing point

00:19:696

dequalify map ASAP
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

G9W0V2H0 wrote: 114er


nice timing point

00:19:696

dequalify map ASAP
Lol! I guess the QAT's missed it, but it's too late now. Had been ranked for 5 months already. So sorry to disappoint you :P
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team
5,011 posts
ed May 2012
so actually... what is wrong here, it's just a green line unsnapped at a point where it doesn't even matter

like what

it's not duplicated so it really just doesn't matter if it's snapped properly or not because it does what it's supposed to do even without that
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Okoratu wrote: ct57

so actually... what is wrong here, it's just a green line unsnapped at a point where it doesn't even matter

like what

it's not duplicated so it really just doesn't matter if it's snapped properly or not because it does what it's supposed to do even without that
Maybe, since it doesn't affect gameplay, but it would still have to be fixed for it to be rankable, so it's not something you can ignore. (AiBat also mentions the unsnapped green lines)
Stefan
Global
10,425 posts
ed January 2011
That is not unrankable.
-Nya-
2,133 posts
ed December 2011
Topic Starter

Stefan wrote: 72304b

That is not unrankable.
Seriously? Hm, I always thought it was since other BN's/BAT's in the past stated it as unrankable and since AiBat also mentions it.
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