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supercell feat. Hatsune Miku - BLACK ROCK SHOOTER 4b6n7

posted 2014-09-28T08:19:58+00:00

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[ Joey ]

390 posts

ed May 2013

2014-12-29T23:41:57+00:00

Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav

Easy

00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605
00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here
00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2)
00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.
No reason to skip this note
00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 -
00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here
00:35:332 - ^
00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg
00:52:787 - Add a note here.
00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) -
00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket
01:00:787 (3,4) - ^
01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat.
01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow.
01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs.
01:26:787 (2) - ^
01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76

Normal

00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg
00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way.
00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's page If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there
00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg
So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about.
00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help.
00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players.
01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap?
00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol)
01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider.
01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better
01:23:696 (3,4) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg

Hard

00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps.
00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section
I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) -
This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance.
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job
The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg
01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them
01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg

Milan-'s Insane

Of course it's up to you, but I would personally name the difficulty Milan's Insane (without the -)
00:05:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would just repeat the same rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dP5Jr/54b973fcf6.jpg
00:44:968 - A note should be clickable on this beat. I recommend a rhythm more like this: http://puu.sh/dP6eF/a6ae36061d.jpg Adding some slightly larger jumps at this part would feel nice also.
01:06:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can make these jumps look a little neater. Try something like this (sorry its hard to see. I didnt move slider #1): http://puu.sh/dP6L5/74ef8b5066.jpg
01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is just personal preference, but I would like it if these jumps were a little bigger. It feel like it would go with the music, and be a good way to close out the song.
Really solid difficulty. Nice work.

A's Extra

I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg
I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really
I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy.
EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T10:36:21+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j

A's Extra

I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset. I meant that as for I have my own maaping / hitsounding style and my difficulty represents it correctly.

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here. Well you should listen to this part at 25% Playback rate and you'll find you are wrong.

00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg ^ In this case it follows the vocals then the beat.

I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really

I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra" If that's true I will have to change it, but I will wait for a BAT to mention it.

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thank you for mod!

[ Joey ]

390 posts

ed May 2013

2014-12-30T11:49:29+00:00

Avishay wrote: x5733

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j
[*]I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.

/quote]

Thank you for mod!

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant)

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time

Good luck!!

hehe

1,975 posts

ed November 2012

2014-12-30T11:51:24+00:00

m4m

[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

[insane]
00:12:787 (2,3,4) - just neaten this by making one slider, copypaste and rotate by 120.
00:44:423 - drums in this portion are very distinct, instead of following the regular slider rhythm, you can use circles only for intensity. distinct drums on sliderends such as 00:44:968 - 00:45:514 - should really be emphasized with a circle, in my opinion.
00:58:059 (1) - here's a nice slider tip. since the voice is on the red tick at 00:58:423 - , you can make the elbow of the slider precisely at that point: http://i.imgur.com/tYpY3GW.png

[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here.

[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T16:34:44+00:00

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps. Lack? They're not a must.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap I know they're not consistent but I think it looks fine and plays fine as well.
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg I agree, it was awkward indeed and your explanation was great. I made a similar pattern.
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket Could've just said to fix the blanket, done.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/ I have to disagree, first of all they sound great and play nicely, and just try to listen to it on 25% Playback rate while looking at the time line, those are 1/6 notes.
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern. No I didn't try to do that, it would have been less curvy if I tried to, and it looks just fine.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed Yes it is? I just don't want the slider to be too curvy.
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other. They do have a synergy, there's a break point right between them, I didn't want 3 to flow directly into 5 and I think they have cool synergy.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary They follow the drums, and there's no clear rules for NC, I've seen new ranked maps with NC spammed on streams.
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed. Fixed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better Nya needs to update the map from the mod before you, it was fixed then
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant) Nope.

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time
Good luck!! I do consider every small note, before I deny something I check it several times to make sure I really think that it is not right. Whenever I say "It is my style", I mean that I don't want to be regular and repetitive, I do it in my way to be unpredictable and original. And obviously some people will dislike it, just like a lot of people dislike Doko's and Skystar's mapping styles, but some people like those too.

Thank you, I've learned some new stuff thanks to you.

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Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T16:35:57+00:00

handsome wrote: 483w1s
m4m

[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap Hm? It is mapped, as the end of 00:11:211 (1) - If you're talking about what afterwards, it is not even a beat gap.

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"
this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

Grrum

886 posts

ed November 2011

2015-01-01T18:24:26+00:00

Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1.
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both.

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - .
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps.
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes.
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this:
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different.

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either.

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail.

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap

[Insane]

The claps sound really heavy and kind of take over the song too much. Try a volume of around 60% throughout the beatmap

00:33:514 (3,4) – I don't like stacking these on 1 and 2, instead I would rather see a contrast to the pattern 00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - . Try seeing if a symmetrical pattern would work.

00:41:150 (6,7,8) – didn't like the triple, try deleting 7. I like this change because it feels more of a rest time than an energy time. Miku stops singing, you come off a not common jump pattern, and you're about to launch into a new pattern. For all these reasons, I think it's better for the player to calm down with a simple stack instead of a triple.

00:58:968 (1) – consider making a slight sv increase here to emphasize the kiai section (I'm thinking about 1.1 or 1.15)

01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – This didn't feel big enough as a finale. Try having 01:25:878 (5,6) - be spaced out more. I really think bigger jumps here has a good ending feel to it.

[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-01T22:45:28+00:00

pinataman wrote: 3e2q46
[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

I honestly don't dislike the hitsounds, but I guess they can be better, I've fixed / changed what you've noted and I will rework the hitsounds tomorrow.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-03T13:51:12+00:00

Alright, I finished doing the hitsounds again, I used the normal and soft sets, but without any custom hitsounds, I think it is fine, I also changed some patterns in the diff as well.

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Pappy

1,020 posts

ed August 2013

2015-01-08T20:56:33+00:00

LATE but M4M here. Sorry for delay.

General

Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word)
Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>

A's Extra

Hitsounding is strange. You should use Hitsound Copier or something and copy Milan-'s or -Nya-'s hitsounds (if he agree.)
This diff is really overmapped. Unwanted 1/6 sounds/plays bad.

Milan

00:05:514 (3) - It should be 1/2 than note at 00:05:787 , it's confusing. ;w;
No problems here, nice diff as always. <3

Hard

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it.
00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1)
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_;
01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking.
01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) )

00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this:

Here

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348,98,54968,2,0,P|378:140|414:150,1,70
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Normal

It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :<

Easy

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry

The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!

Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Arcubin

689 posts

ed September 2013

2015-01-09T13:55:08+00:00

from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~nvm that

[General]

Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset
personally i don't like your hitsounding :3

[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._.
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion)
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket?

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket?
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider?
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :<
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer?
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean)
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320)
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note

[Milan-'s Insane]
00:41:514 (1) - add finish at start
00:47:332 (1) - ^

this one is good :>

[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head?
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w=
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w=
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following?
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w;

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-09T16:55:30+00:00

azintairin710 wrote: n4f1t
[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish V
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head? Oops.
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead Nope
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w= That's fine.
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section The only thing I fixed is 00:44:423 (1) - 's placement
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w= You'll survive, I think this overlap is neat.
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following? The beat? Listen to the song at 25% Playback rate.
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away I think it's fine since you can see the slider itself, but I also have fixed the arrangement of 01:15:696 (1,2,3,4) -
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g It is on purpose.

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w; I'll have to disagree

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Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2015-01-10T02:34:44+00:00

so much mods D:

changed some hitsounds, the rest is just fine asda

mapp

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:Milan-'s Insane
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Black Rock Shooter Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay ryo
BeatmapID:521681
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,840,"Black Rock Shooter.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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-Nya-

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Topic Starter

2015-01-10T08:35:41+00:00

moonlightleaf wrote: 562s6b
[Easy]

00:18:605 (1) - i think use the shape(crtl+h) to void overlap Nah, I did that overlap on purpose.

00:58:968 (1,4) - avoid overlap ,can try this Thanks for the suggestion, but the overlap is not such a big problem, so no change, but if other modders mention this as well then I'll consider changing it.

SPOILER

01:05:150 (4,3) - struck Fixed the stack.

[Normal]

00:09:514 (1) - blanket with 5,use this to check?(this is my way for checking blanket) Tried my best to improve the blanket

SPOILER

00:11:696 (4,5) - try Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

00:20:241 (4) - delete it, real stream is 00:20:241-00:20:332-00:20:423 imo No, I think this stream is fine.

01:10:423 (5) - delete I'll delete this one

01:14:059 (2) - change to note at 01:14:241 Nah, I think the slider there is fine

01:24:059 (4) - blanket will be more better I did that kind of blanket on purpose. I want the slider to be curved more

[Hard]

00:04:787 (4) - x|200 y|136 Ok, fixed

00:06:605 (1) - ds Looks fine to me . . .

00:08:059 (1) - maybe folw will be better No, I think the flow is better if I keep the slider like this.

SPOILER

00:08:968 (3) - delete will better to play and read No, I disagree. Won't the flow then be a little confusing?

00:10:968 (1) - change to 2notes? better to play Nah, no need. I like the two sliders better for something else

00:19:877 (5) - no vol here , delete Ok, deleted that note

00:22:787 (2,3,4) - try Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

00:30:423 (2) - vol( 00:30:605 - ) in slider's middle listen badly I don't really know what you want me to do here.

00:31:878 (5) - ^ ^

01:04:605 (6,1) - bad flow,try Ok, followed your advice

SPOILER

01:14:605 (4,1,2,3) - try Followed your suggestion in a way

SPOILER

01:27:333 (4,1) - maybe 4 return 1time to end ? No, it's better to add a circle there for emphasis.

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

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2015-01-10T08:40:01+00:00

-Actor- wrote: 433l37
~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Thanks for the testplay, but I didn't really change anything.
Avishay is right. You should try to point out the issues more specifically.

-Nya-

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2015-01-10T08:51:28+00:00

Tsumetaku wrote: j69s
HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

★ = Some overall comments

◆ = Suggestions

▲ = Unrankable stuffs

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▲ Black Rock Shooter in TAGS overlap with title... I placed this in tags cuz the title is in caps and maybe players will search for the map like this instead?

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01:04:787 (1,2) - I feel kinda confused on this rhythm since it between at which the previous pattern follows 1/1 and next pattern follows vocal... I think it's fine.
01:10:423 (5) - Maybe u can delete this one cuz on you follow vocal on previous pattern,and it doesn't affect in flow~ (and i feel more suit without 1/2 in here while clicking Yeah, already deleted that note

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00:18:060 (8,9,10) - these triplets touches previous slider cuz to stack setting,u can pull them further to get rid of overlapping :> They're not touching the slider . . .
00:59:514 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
00:41:151 (5) - imo u should keep these more closer to 0.1x or further,because there's only an example like this in this map. I tried something else there . . . I guess I can fix it if another modder complains about it.
01:03:696 (2) - I think the bg drums can little jumps here,try X:120 Y:212,These would be fun I'll rather keep it as it is now
01:04:423 (5) - ^ and X:308 Y:84 ^
01:17:878 (4) - NC at here will be nice No, I have to keep my NC's consistent
01:19:696 (2,3) - Make the ds to 1.1x,looks kinda narrow now. Ok

ag i tried new reply arrangement XD

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-10T10:21:14+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j
Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav Thanks for this file!

Easy

00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605 Ok, fixed

00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here Ok, added the whistle

00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2) Ok, fixed that

00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.I used that sound file, but I rather want that clap hitsounds in my kiai time.

No reason to skip this note Where?

00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 - Ok, followed your suggestion

00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here Ok

00:35:332 - ^ Ok

00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg I think the flow is fine. It forms a nice triangle shape with 00:40:423 (2,3) -

00:52:787 - Add a note here. No, the music doesn't really it

00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) - Ok, fixed

00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket Tried my best to improve it

01:00:787 (3,4) - ^ ^

01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat. Ok, fixed

01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow. Followed your suggestion

01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs. I think it's fine, but I will see what other modders say

01:26:787 (2) - ^ ^

01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76 Ok

Normal

00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg Ok, followed your suggestion

00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way. Nah, I think it's fine as it is now

00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's page If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there Ok

00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg Followed your suggestion

So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about. Where?

00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help. Ok

00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players. Well, a Normal isn't really meant for newbies, so I think those notes are fine.

01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap? I think I'll keep it as it is now

00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol) Ok, fixed the claps

01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider. Ok, followed your advice

01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better Improved the blanket

01:23:696 (3,4) - ^ This was on purpose

01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg Ok, fixed

Hard

00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps. Ok, increased the distance

00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section I rather just want them in kiai time

I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) - I don't know what you're referring to

This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance. I think I made a different change there

00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job Thanks!

The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg No change, I think it's fine

01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them I think that slider fits better. The vocals suggests it

01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg I like it. Followed your suggestion

Really nice mapset -Nya-! Thanks!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thanks so much for the helpful mod and the star!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T06:51:13+00:00

handsome wrote: 483w1s
m4m

[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here. Yeah, ok, Ctrl+G this slider: 00:29:514 (5) - to make the spacing less.

[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here. I think the rhythm is just fine, so no change, and if I NC 3 it will make my NC patterns inconsistent, so no change.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc No, I think the NC should start on 01:16:423 (1) -
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal. Thanks!

Thanks so much for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T08:04:02+00:00

pinataman wrote: 3e2q46
Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1 Ok, fixed

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope Ok, tried my best to fix that

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks perfect to me . . .

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg Nah, not really such a big issue.

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169 Ok, fixed

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1. Ok, fixed
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1 I made a blanket there

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice Nah, I made a triangle shape there

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4 Ok, fixed

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both. I think the flow is fine

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better ^

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it. I changed my clap pattern already since [ Joey ] had also said so.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - . I prefer the finish there
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps. ^
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes. Yeah, I already fixed the clap pattern
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish Ok, fixed

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152 Fixed

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow Ok, fixed

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this: I don't want the pattern to be a straight line. I rather prefer it in a circular pattern
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different. Ok, fixed

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8. I'm not sure if I followed your suggestion, but I made a change there.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^ ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^ I'm going to keep this one stacked
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either. Made changes there

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365 Ok, fixed
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76 I don't really understand this suggestion, so no change
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288 Ok

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better The flow looks fine to me

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2 This explanation is too confusing, but I did make a change

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern Added a drum-clap on the slider head

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail. I think the finish fits the tail better

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4 Made a change there

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap It's not really an issue since it's a Hard but I will see what other modders say as well
Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Thanks for the m4m!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T10:28:07+00:00

Pappy wrote: 6b1c4a
General

Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word) Fixed the tags

Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>

Hard
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it. The jump isn't that big and I don't want the diff to be too easy.

00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1) Good idea. Changed

00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_; Nah, I think it's fine. It's just one stream.

01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking. Ok, followed your suggestion

01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) ) Nah, I'm fine with how it is now
00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this: Nah, it looks fine as it is now
Here
256,192,54605,6,0,P|277:144|268:107,1,70 
348,98,54968,2,0,P|378:140|414:150,1,70
382,224,55332,2,0,P|330:228|303:255,1,70
Normal

It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :< Np

Easy

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry Looks the same as in the pic, lol

The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!
Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T10:59:07+00:00

azintairin710 wrote: n4f1t
from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~nvm that

[General]

Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset Ok, removed that file

personally i don't like your hitsounding :3

[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._. I think it's fine, but will see what other modders say
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket The blanket looks fine to me . . .
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion) No, if the circle is there it will help with better flow
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this This blanket also looks fine to me . . .
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow Ok, fixed
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket? Still looks fine to me

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better Blanket looks fine
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^ Looks fine to me
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^ ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat No, change. Want a repetitive slider there
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket? Looks fine to me
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider? Ok, fixed
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket Looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix ^
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal No, not really. I can't let the diff be too easy otherwise the gap between this Normal and the Hard will be too big.
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket The blankets are fine

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3 I'll have to disagree.
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :< Ok, followed your suggestion
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg Followed your first suggestion
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer? It looks fine, but if someone has a suggestion then I might consider changing it
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly Nah, I like that placement
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket The blanket looks fine to me
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg I just lowered the tail of 00:45:514 (3) - a bit
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream It's actually 4 notes, and I think it's fine
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean) Looks fine to me
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320) Ok, followed your suggestion
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad I think it's fine . . .
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket Ok
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note Ok, separated each note

Thanks so much for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T11:01:27+00:00

UPDATED

@Milan- and Avishay: Please update to latest version since I changed the tags.

Guy

Former osu! Champion: 2014

2,049 posts

ed March 2009

2015-01-26T16:56:44+00:00

as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]

00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.
00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.
00:03:150 (2) - whistle
00:03:696 (5) - ^
00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound
00:05:514 (4) - ^
00:05:878 (7) - ^
00:06:241 (3) - ^
00:06:605 (6) - ^
00:06:787 (1) - whistle
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4
00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please.
00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here.
00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .

SPOILER
00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.

SPOILER
00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here)
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.
00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.
00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) -
00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.

SPOILER
00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way.
01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent.
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-27T15:09:24+00:00

Guy wrote: 4c364f
as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]

00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.

00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.

00:03:150 (2) - whistle

00:03:696 (5) - ^

00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound

00:05:514 (4) - ^

00:05:878 (7) - ^

00:06:241 (3) - ^

00:06:605 (6) - ^

00:06:787 (1) - whistle

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4

00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC

00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please.

00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here.

00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .

SPOILER

00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.

SPOILER

00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here)

00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.

00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.

00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) -

00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.

SPOILER

00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way.

01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent.

01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

Hey, thanks. As for the moment I have no access to a computer (from my phone atm) so I'll respond either when I am back home or when I'll have access to the computer here. I give nya full permission to edit the diff if she wants to.

AruOtta

1,303 posts

ed May 2012

2015-01-30T22:47:12+00:00

I'm laaaaaate sorry ;___;

Easy 3c1s6b

00:15:332 (1,2) - This blanket could be improved, try to use 2 construction points instead of 1 for (2)'s curve :

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00:58:968 (1,2) - I feel like this blanket can also be improved a bit... Maybe you should make it closest to (1)'s tail.
00:59:696 (2,3,4) - The distance snap isn't the same between (2.3) and (3.4). You should move (4) 1 grid left in my opinion (and remake the blanket a bit)
01:08:241 (1,2) - These sliders both strating on red ticks can be problematic to understand for beginners. I suggest this pattern :

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Normal 6g3l6m

00:08:787 (5,1) - You should move (1)'s constuction point at the middle 1 grid left to improve the blanket.
00:15:877 - This beat seems more emphasized than 00:16:241, you should play it instead of 00:16:241 in my opinion (because it follows the vocal)
00:18:605 (1,2) - It could have been better to have a blanket here, maybe you could try to make (2) and (3) blanket with (1) ?
00:24:423 (1) - The curves of this slider looks strange... You should try this kind of wave slider in my opinion :

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01:11:332 (3,4) - You should try to improve this blanket by moving (4)'s construction point at the middle of the curve.

Hard 575l21

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - The distance snap here seems too high compared to the other patterns, you should try to bring closer these 3 circles.
00:24:423 (1) - This wave slider has strange curves, you should try to do like the suggestion in the normal (http://puu.sh/ffAMX.jpg)
00:41:151 (5,1) - You can stack it like you made before for this kind of rythm maybe ?
00:44:423 (1) - Maybe you should try to move the second red anchor 2 grids right to make the same distance before and after the red anchors in the slider.
01:04:787 (1,2) - You could improve this blanket in my opinion.

Milan-'s Insane 511f5f

00:26:605 (7) - I suggest to reverse the curve to increase the flow :

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Perfect

A's Extra 254hc

First, I think Milan-'s Insane could be the hardest diff. I saw the Extra diff, and it's quite the same difficulty as the Insane... Also it has some problems.
The video isn't in this diff, I think it could be better to add it.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - These circles looks better when they're snapped on 1/4 timeline. It feels strange when it's not snapped.
00:11:514 - There's a beat you didn't play, you should add a circle in my opinion.
00:11:635 (1) - This is not snapped. I think you shouldn't care about these beats, they're not really emphasized.
00:25:150 (1,3) - Overlap
00:26:241 (5,6) - Same distance for 1/2 than 00:25:877 (3,4) which is 1/4, so you should increase the distance snap between (5,6)
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Same thing aboug these kinds of beats. It's quite unplayable since it's not snapped.
00:34:483 (4) - ^
00:41:120 (8,1) - ^
00:35:696 - Hitsounds are quite strange in this part =/
00:45:756 (5) - Unsnapped
01:10:483 (2) - ^
01:10:756 (1) - Why does the hitsounds change after this slider ? ;___;

Btw, some circles on blue ticks are overmappped (they don't correspond to a beat on the song) and must be deleted.

In my opinion, I think this diff isn't needed in the set as it is at the moment =/

I hope my mod was helpful :3
Good luck ~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-04T16:50:31+00:00

Guy wrote: 4c364f
as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]

00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.

00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.

00:03:150 (2) - whistle

00:03:696 (5) - ^

00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound

00:05:514 (4) - ^

00:05:878 (7) - ^

00:06:241 (3) - ^

00:06:605 (6) - ^

00:06:787 (1) - whistle

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4 Why is this an unrankable issue? Can you please use 25% Playback rate and see that I follow the rhythm correctly and it plays just fine.

00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC

00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please. I can't really hear a note here, but since you and Kenterz mentioned it I added a note here.

00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here. Again, please listen to the song precisely, I followed it correctly and it plays nicely.

00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .

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00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.

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I think the previous one was just fine, but this one is even better, changed.

00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here) I think they are fine, the song gets a bit intense at this part and the pattern is arranged nicely and it plays well.

00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.
It is 1/6, and please listen to the song closely, it follows the beat and the vocals nicely, while playing cool.

00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.

00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Nope, listen to the song please.

00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.

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It felt funky indeed, changed.

00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way. Hard to read doesn't mean plays bad or follows rhythm wrong, I used equal DS and I followed strong beats

01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent. It is part of the pattern, it is getting intense in the kiai time and it combines with other patterns.

01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.
A correct and irregular rhythm, please listen to this part carefully.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

The rhythm issues are irrelevant, the hitsounds issues were spot on and right, so I fixed those, and changed some patterns according to your suggestions. I wouldn't just set sliders and circles on irregular Beat Snap Divisors, I did it for a reason, they might be irregular and hard to read, but they play nicely and are correct.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-04T16:54:53+00:00

Kenterz wrote: 62734
I'm laaaaaate sorry ;___;

A's Extra 254hc
First, I think Milan-'s Insane could be the hardest diff. I saw the Extra diff, and it's quite the same difficulty as the Insane... Also it has some problems.
The video isn't in this diff, I think it could be better to add it. Nya wil take care of it and I'll update the map if it is the case, my video settings are disabled.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - These circles looks better when they're snapped on 1/4 timeline. It feels strange when it's not snapped. Please lok at the response to Guy's post.
00:11:514 - There's a beat you didn't play, you should add a circle in my opinion. Added because of you and Guy.
00:11:635 (1) - This is not snapped. I think you shouldn't care about these beats, they're not really emphasized. I can't ignore them, I mapped it this way because I could feel them.
00:25:150 (1,3) - Overlap Changed pattern, it still overlaps but it should be fine.
00:26:241 (5,6) - Same distance for 1/2 than 00:25:877 (3,4) which is 1/4, so you should increase the distance snap between (5,6) V
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Same thing aboug these kinds of beats. It's quite unplayable since it's not snapped. Guy's post.
00:34:483 (4) - ^
00:41:120 (8,1) - ^
00:35:696 - Hitsounds are quite strange in this part =/ I think they add some flavor and they are nice
00:45:756 (5) - Unsnapped
01:10:483 (2) - ^
01:10:756 (1) - Why does the hitsounds change after this slider ? ;___; Because the long stream ended and the strong vocals came?

Btw, some circles on blue ticks are overmappped (they don't correspond to a beat on the song) and must be deleted.

In my opinion, I think this diff isn't needed in the set as it is at the moment =/

I hope my mod was helpful :3
Good luck ~

Thanks for the mod, please look at my notes on the previous post. As for the difficulty, only time will tell, if it is must to be removed I guess I have no choice but to accept it, but I think it'll be fine.

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Sonnyc

7,774 posts

ed June 2008

2015-02-04T20:10:26+00:00

A's Extra:

00:03:150 (2,3,4) - Since the strong beat is in 00:03:332, giving a jump for (2,3) is something better to play than one in (3,4).
00:06:423 (4,5,6) - Considering the previous flow of your triplets of 00:05:332 (2,3,4,5,6,7) were a zigzag, maintaining that flow also for here is recommended. A sample placement for you.

SPOILER
00:08:423 (2) - Every the previous similar section such as 00:01:150 (3) or 00:06:968 (2) were all using 3/4 sliders. Changing your rhythm to 3/4 and adding a note at 00:08:787 with a whistle will maintain the consistency of your map.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - The rhythm is not 1/6 here, but it's just a 1/4 if you are following the drum sounds (which is the most noticable one of the song here!)
00:22:241 (3,4) - Just keep your 1/2 jump by setting a new combo at (3) as you've done at 00:21:150 (1,2) - 00:21:514 (1,2) - 00:21:877 (1,2). A sudden cut down of this pattern to stabilze the spacing towards 00:22:605 (1) was not a good idea since the music of 00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) all comes as the same feeling. Also providing my personal sample too.

SPOILER
00:25:150 (1) - The new combo setting didn't felt nice since it made the combo of too short. Remove your combo, and add one back at 00:26:968 where the new stanza starts.
00:29:029 (5) - Remove this note! There is no musical cue ing this note, which only makes this object something overmapped.
00:38:241 (1,3) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (3). It fits the music better since it allows a new combo along the new stanza.
00:41:211 (1,2) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (2). Reason is same with above.
00:44:059 (9) - Highly recommended to place where 00:43:696 (7) is! In the current stance, the space of 00:44:059 (9,1,2) are the same while rhythms being slightly different. This is a highly confusing placement which must get fixed.
00:46:605 (3) - New combo this note to make the streams detached with 00:46:241 (1,2). They do not belong together.
00:50:423 (8,9,1) - Same opinion with the first line of my mod; Jump in (8,9) fits better than (9,1) since there is a strong beat in 00:50:605 (9).
00:58:059 - The volume is too low that it can cause an issue of objects being subjectively inaudible. Recommended to tune your volume up to 30%.
01:08:605 (5) - Set a new combo please to enhance readability of this anti-jump with (4).
01:10:211 - The way the actual rhythm should be is like the following. Also suggesting to use my selected order in that circle-slider-circle will minimize the impact towards the s playing.
01:23:756 (1,2) - Since the rhythmical gap of (8,1) and (1,2) differs, it's recommended to put more space between (1,2) to make the gap way more noticable.
01:24:332 (3,4,5) - The path of the stream heading (5) is too sharp. You need to make it smoother to make a more playable pattern.

bibilicu

3,578 posts

ed October 2013

2015-02-04T20:13:52+00:00

Reply to Sonnyc's mod and then I'll mod the extra diff

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-05T13:49:55+00:00

Thanks for the mod, Sonnyc ^^

ByBy_ChAn wrote: 2a4e2c
Reply to Sonnyc's mod and then I'll mod the extra diff

That would be much appreciated. Thanks, ByBy-chii~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-05T15:43:05+00:00

Sonnyc wrote: 491l5w
A's Extra:

00:03:150 (2,3,4) - Since the strong beat is in 00:03:332, giving a jump for (2,3) is something better to play than one in (3,4). Right, changed.

00:06:423 (4,5,6) - Considering the previous flow of your triplets of 00:05:332 (2,3,4,5,6,7) were a zigzag, maintaining that flow also for here is recommended. A sample placement for you. Done.

SPOILER

00:08:423 (2) - Every the previous similar section such as 00:01:150 (3) or 00:06:968 (2) were all using 3/4 sliders. Changing your rhythm to 3/4 and adding a note at 00:08:787 with a whistle will maintain the consistency of your map. The other patterns landed on a drum, I didn't end them on 3/4 randomly, I'll leave it as it is but I'll add the whistle.

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - The rhythm is not 1/6 here, but it's just a 1/4 if you are following the drum sounds (which is the most noticable one of the song here!) The drum is not on the blue tick, it feels too late! But you were right, it is not on the 1/6 tick, it felt too early, so I checked again and it lands on a 1/16 tick.

00:22:241 (3,4) - Just keep your 1/2 jump by setting a new combo at (3) as you've done at 00:21:150 (1,2) - 00:21:514 (1,2) - 00:21:877 (1,2). A sudden cut down of this pattern to stabilze the spacing towards 00:22:605 (1) was not a good idea since the music of 00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) all comes as the same feeling. Also providing my personal sample too. Changed with personal flavor.

SPOILER

00:25:150 (1) - The new combo setting didn't felt nice since it made the combo of too short. Remove your combo, and add one back at 00:26:968 where the new stanza starts. V

00:29:029 (5) - Remove this note! There is no musical cue ing this note, which only makes this object something overmapped. Listen closely, the vocal changes (25% PBR should help) and it creates a nice pattern.

00:38:241 (1,3) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (3). It fits the music better since it allows a new combo along the new stanza. V

00:41:211 (1,2) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (2). Reason is same with above. V

00:44:059 (9) - Highly recommended to place where 00:43:696 (7) is! In the current stance, the space of 00:44:059 (9,1,2) are the same while rhythms being slightly different. This is a highly confusing placement which must get fixed. I had no idea where to place it, and your suggestion and explanation is great, changed.

00:46:605 (3) - New combo this note to make the streams detached with 00:46:241 (1,2). They do not belong together. V and removed NC on 1.

00:50:423 (8,9,1) - Same opinion with the first line of my mod; Jump in (8,9) fits better than (9,1) since there is a strong beat in 00:50:605 (9). V

00:58:059 - The volume is too low that it can cause an issue of objects being subjectively inaudible. Recommended to tune your volume up to 30%. I think it was fine but changed.

01:08:605 (5) - Set a new combo please to enhance readability of this anti-jump with (4). V

01:10:211 - The way the actual rhythm should be is like the following. Also suggesting to use my selected order in that circle-slider-circle will minimize the impact towards the s playing. Holy, you are right, changed.

01:23:756 (1,2) - Since the rhythmical gap of (8,1) and (1,2) differs, it's recommended to put more space between (1,2) to make the gap way more noticable. Done.

01:24:332 (3,4,5) - The path of the stream heading (5) is too sharp. You need to make it smoother to make a more playable pattern. Changed overall pattern.

I love your explanations, they give great insight and affect my thought completely, thanks.

SPOILER

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-06T15:46:48+00:00

Kenterz wrote: 62734
I'm laaaaaate sorry ;___; Don't worry about it

Easy 3c1s6b
00:15:332 (1,2) - This blanket could be improved, try to use 2 construction points instead of 1 for (2)'s curve : Thanks for that advice. Fixed

SPOILER

00:58:968 (1,2) - I feel like this blanket can also be improved a bit... Maybe you should make it closest to (1)'s tail. Ok, tried to improve it
00:59:696 (2,3,4) - The distance snap isn't the same between (2.3) and (3.4). You should move (4) 1 grid left in my opinion (and remake the blanket a bit) Ok, fixed
01:08:241 (1,2) - These sliders both strating on red ticks can be problematic to understand for beginners. I suggest this pattern : No, your pattern doesn't sound right in my opinion. I followed the vocals by using my pattern.

SPOILER

Normal 6g3l6m
00:08:787 (5,1) - You should move (1)'s constuction point at the middle 1 grid left to improve the blanket. Ok, fixed
00:15:877 - This beat seems more emphasized than 00:16:241, you should play it instead of 00:16:241 in my opinion (because it follows the vocal) Ok, I just added a note there where you said a note is needed.
00:18:605 (1,2) - It could have been better to have a blanket here, maybe you could try to make (2) and (3) blanket with (1) ? Nah, no need.
00:24:423 (1) - The curves of this slider looks strange... You should try this kind of wave slider in my opinion : Agreed, fixed that slidershape.

SPOILER

01:11:332 (3,4) - You should try to improve this blanket by moving (4)'s construction point at the middle of the curve. Tried to improve it.

Hard 575l21
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - The distance snap here seems too high compared to the other patterns, you should try to bring closer these 3 circles. Nah, I don't think it's such a big jump.
00:24:423 (1) - This wave slider has strange curves, you should try to do like the suggestion in the normal (http://puu.sh/ffAMX.jpg) Agreed, fixed
00:41:151 (5,1) - You can stack it like you made before for this kind of rythm maybe ? Fine, stacked it since every previous modder also complained about this.
00:44:423 (1) - Maybe you should try to move the second red anchor 2 grids right to make the same distance before and after the red anchors in the slider.Ok, fixed.
01:04:787 (1,2) - You could improve this blanket in my opinion. Tried my best to improve it.

Thanks for the mod~

pkhg

2,507 posts

ed May 2010

2015-02-09T21:53:10+00:00

hiya from #modreqs

[General]
Will be waay better if you follow Milan-'s hitsounding :3
You dont need "black rock shooter" in tags, its already on the title

[Easy]
00:11:332 - add circle maybe?
00:13:150 (2) - try this http://puu.sh/fHouD/cebc71f28f.jpg
00:35:332 (4) - Will be more fun if you delete this and follow vocals better
00:25:514 (2) - how about http://puu.sh/fHoNb/6d6a36428e.jpg ?
00:29:877 (5) - Replace it with a circle, fits way better and emphasize the strong sound in the bg
00:40:423 (2,3) - ctrl+g them http://puu.sh/fHpdB/fa47ed1a4a.jpg

[Normal]

00:48:059 (3,5) - Make them less curved :3
01:12:059 (4) - use this
416,104,72059,2,0,B|464:164|422:240|422:240|440:316,1,220
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4,1) - eh... http://puu.sh/fHvOt/9d99551b3a.jpg
01:28:059 (1) - Remove nc
Also, you have many parts like 00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - mapped most in 1/2, followed by 00:53:150 (1,2,3,4,5) - which is mapped in 1/1 only. Better find a ballance between them :3

[Hard]

00:09:878 (2) - ctrl+g it

00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8) - space them properly, i thought it was 1/4 ;w;
01:16:059 (5,6,7) - delete (6) & (7) and for placement try this http://puu.sh/fHxrN/c4c9621978.jpg
01:20:787 - Better map this

01:28:059 (1) - remove NC

[Milan-'s Insane]

00:02:331 (2) -
00:02:877 (6) - ^
00:04:332 (4) - ^
00:07:241 (3) - ^
00:07:968 (7) -
00:10:968 (1,2) - on tail
00:11:696 (5) - ^
00:12:149 (7,9) -
00:14:514 (5) -
00:18:149 (10) -
00:20:332 (5) -
00:26:150 (5) -
00:31:968 (5) -
00:35:150 (5) -
00:36:331 (5) -
00:37:787 (3) -
00:47:968 (3) -
00:49:423 (3) -
00:59:604 (3) -
01:01:058 (5) -
01:02:513 (3) -
01:05:423 (3) -
01:07:968 (2) -
01:11:240 (3) -
01:12:877 (6) -
01:14:149 (3) -
01:15:058 (2) -
01:17:058 (5) -
01:17:787 (10) -
01:19:422 (2,6,11) -
01:21:422 (3) -
^A esos ponle normal o drum sampleset. La idea es que no ignores los drums que hay en el fondo :3

01:04:059 (1,5,7) - Ponles drum finish y bajale algo el volumen si quieres owo
01:09:150 (1) - quitale el finish

01:10:240 (5,7) - drum finish
01:15:696 (6) - ^
01:28:059 (1) - quita nc

[A's Extra]

did a little irc mod, too lazy to post the log

Good luck :3

Last edited by pkhg 2015-02-10T07:08:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-09T22:38:36+00:00

Removed almost all of the 1/6 and 1/12 snapped stuff, reworked patterns and more stuff, blah blah.

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.599998

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Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Black Rock Shooter Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv_size milan- Avishay ryo
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-10T17:35:51+00:00

pkhg wrote: 5a3v49
hiya from #modreqs

[General]
Will be waay better if you follow Milan-'s hitsounding :3
You dont need "black rock shooter" in tags, its already on the title Ok, removed.

[Easy]
00:11:332 - add circle maybe? No, it will mess with my rhythm.
00:13:150 (2) - try this http://puu.sh/fHouD/cebc71f28f.jpg Nah, it looks fine how it is now.
00:35:332 (4) - Will be more fun if you delete this and follow vocals better Hm, I think it's fine.
00:25:514 (2) - how about http://puu.sh/fHoNb/6d6a36428e.jpg ? There's nothing wrong with the current rhythm pattern I have.
00:29:877 (5) - Replace it with a circle, fits way better and emphasize the strong sound in the bg I don't want to place too many circles in a row and the start of a slider also emphasizes a beat nicely in my opinion.
00:40:423 (2,3) - ctrl+g them http://puu.sh/fHpdB/fa47ed1a4a.jpg Yeah, I agree with this. Fixed.

[Normal]

00:48:059 (3,5) - Make them less curved :3 Lol, it's not such a big issue.
01:12:059 (4) - use this
416,104,72059,2,0,B|464:164|422:240|422:240|440:316,1,220
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4,1) - eh... http://puu.sh/fHvOt/9d99551b3a.jpg Ok, followed your suggestion here.
01:28:059 (1) - Remove nc No, it will then be inconsistent with my other diffs and I think it fits nicely.
Also, you have many parts like 00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - mapped most in 1/2, followed by 00:53:150 (1,2,3,4,5) - which is mapped in 1/1 only. Better find a ballance between them :3

[Hard]

00:09:878 (2) - ctrl+g it Nah, I like how it is now. It puts in a nice and fun jump.
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8) - space them properly, i thought it was 1/4 ;w; Sorry, but I think the current spacing fits the music better since the music has a sort of different tempo there.
01:16:059 (5,6,7) - delete (6) & (7) and for placement try this http://puu.sh/fHxrN/c4c9621978.jpg No, I like my current rhythm.
01:20:787 - Better map this Hm, I think the music rather suggest a long slider there like I have now.
01:28:059 (1) - remove NC No, I think it fits nicely.
Good luck :3

Thanks for the mod~!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-10T17:37:46+00:00

@ Milan- and Avishay: Please update to latest version since I fixed the tags.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-10T21:05:04+00:00

I spent some more time playtesting, increasing ds / rearrenging patterns / simplifying, the play is much more fun and I think it is ready.

SPOILER

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Myxo

osu! Alumni

3,103 posts

ed December 2012

2015-02-11T11:14:06+00:00

[Easy]

01:08:968 (2) - I would start this slider 1/2 later to catch the cymbal at 01:09:150 and have the sliderticks at the white ticks to sound a lot better. You could reverse 01:08:241 (1) if you have nothing against a 1/2-gap in Easy, because it would fit really well here. http://puu.sh/fLKYB/4c747569c0.jpg
01:26:787 (2) - It would sound better to end this slider at 01:27:332 and add a circle at 01:27:696
Good!

[Normal]

00:14:605 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - The density here seems pretty high without a real indication in the music, so I would replace 00:16:059 (3) with a single circle to reduce it a bit.
00:22:605 (3,4,5) - The strong beats of drums and other instruments are on the white ticks, so it doesn't make much sense to start the 1/2-sliders at the red ticks. What about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/fLLwz/65713561e3.jpg
00:36:787 (3) - Again, the density seems unnecessarily high here (5 consecutive 1/2 beats mapped starting from 00:36:423 - while there is no indication in the music for such a density). I would replace 00:36:787 (3) - with a single circle.
00:58:968 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Here it's the opposite - You got low density (only 1/1-objects) for four measures even though it's the start of the chorus. It's also inconsistent with 01:10:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) where you have a much higher density for the same musical phrases. My suggestions would be to add circles at 00:59:514 - 01:01:332 - and 01:02:787
Could use some more mods to polish it a bit more, but overall it seems fine!

[Hard]

00:05:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - The intensity of the song rises with every note, but your spacing doesn't really compliment that - You got the highest spacing from (3) to (4) and then a much lower spacing from (4) to (1) although it should be atleast the same length telling from the music. What would work is having a regular triangle for (1) (2) (3) and higher spacing for (3) (4) (1) like this: http://puu.sh/fLMrn/5d9c6a3b12.jpg Or you can think of a different solution.
00:11:696 (3,4,5,6,7) - (7) is the most emphasized note in the combo. Since a jump to a note gives a high stress to it, a stack does exactly the opposite. Therefore, I would recommend you to get rid of the stack completely, for example like this: http://puu.sh/fLMGF/21acf106df.jpg or to have the stack at the beginning of the curve, like this: http://puu.sh/fLMJf/fbee6c2f1b.jpg
00:38:242 (7) - A not-so-important thing but it would be nice to have equal spacing for both 1/1-gaps for a better look and flow: http://puu.sh/fLMPB/e4147aa320.jpg
00:42:969 (1,2,3,4,1) - Similar problem to 00:05:151 - The intensity of the song doesn't rise with every note, so it would actually make sense to have equal spacings between (1) (2) (3) and (4), but the spacing from (4) to (1) should be higher or equal to that, not lower like it currently is. Please try to think of a good rearrange for this pattern.
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8) - These antijumps look way too similar to some of the 1/4 in your map. It's spaced with 0,6 which is close to the half of your average 1/4-spacing 1,0. What about a pattern like this, it plays nice and has a similar effect: http://puu.sh/fLN9T/6468efce17.jpg
00:53:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - Hmm it's the same issue again... I recommend you to increase the spacing between (4) and (1) somehow.
This difficulty needs some more mods to make it more tidy, but seems mostly fine.

[Milan-'s Insane]

Good!

[A's Extra]

Why it it named "A's Extra"? "A" could be anyone..
00:10:787 (8,1) - The low spacing between these notes seems unrelated to the song and plays a bit weird. What about moving (8) like this? http://puu.sh/fLNKj/c45595445a.jpg
00:26:877 (2) - Having a slider ending on the downbeat seems like a bad idea. The big white tick has a strong note of all instruments and therefore it should be clickable. Replace this slider with two circles to fix the issue.
00:32:787 (8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - It makes sense to sort the circles in groups of two here, but the NCs should be at the white ticks, since the strong beats in the music lay there.
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - The drums you are following here sound identical for both streams, so I don't really get the different spacing. I would space both of them equally.
00:38:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Same with these, honestly.
00:46:605 (1,1) - Both NCs can be removed to avoid NC spam.
01:03:150 (7,1) - A stack doesn't play well here since it doesn't really lead into the stream well. 01:03:332 - is a strong note, so a jump would make more sense. Maybe you could try this placement: http://puu.sh/fLOJZ/f8bb257703.jpg
01:04:696 (4,5) - Since you got the stream sorted in groups of four with jumps in between, why is there no jump between these notes?
01:17:514 (8) - Ending a slider on the big white tick feels wrong since the most important notes are there. You can try this rhythm here: http://puu.sh/fLOTt/da268a16fb.jpg
01:18:241 (1,2) - The low spacing between these objects seems random.
01:23:514 (7) - Again, ignoring the downbeat seems weird. What about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/fLPhh/dba9ad0053.jpg
01:25:150 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Sort these in groups of three, pattern-wise and NC-wise, since the music highly suggests it with the loud violin sounds. Triangles could work well here.
There is still a long way to go. While this diff improved a lot from the last time I have checked it, especially the first half, there are still a lot of issues left. I mentioned the most important ones above. After you are done applying this mod, please check your NCing: It is possible to place NCs after patterns, but I can't see a system in your NCing, so it may be better to place them every big white tick instead and remove all the others, except when NCs are really needed differently and make sense (for example the patterns at 01:25:150 if you are going to group them differently, or for the stream segments at 01:03:332 etc). This difficulty will need some more professional mods to get ranked imo, but you made a huge step forward already so I know you can do it

Good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-11T15:04:39+00:00

Desperate-kun wrote: 2z4071
[A's Extra]

Why it it named "A's Extra"? "A" could be anyone.. If someone cares enough to see who's the creator they'll check it in the info box or the tags.

00:10:787 (8,1) - The low spacing between these notes seems unrelated to the song and plays a bit weird. What about moving (8) like this? http://puu.sh/fLNKj/c45595445a.jpg

00:26:877 (2) - Having a slider ending on the downbeat seems like a bad idea. The big white tick has a strong note of all instruments and therefore it should be clickable. Replace this slider with two circles to fix the issue.

00:32:787 (8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - It makes sense to sort the circles in groups of two here, but the NCs should be at the white ticks, since the strong beats in the music lay there.

00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - The drums you are following here sound identical for both streams, so I don't really get the different spacing. I would space both of them equally.

00:38:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Same with these, honestly.

00:46:605 (1,1) - Both NCs can be removed to avoid NC spam.

01:03:150 (7,1) - A stack doesn't play well here since it doesn't really lead into the stream well. 01:03:332 - is a strong note, so a jump would make more sense. Maybe you could try this placement: http://puu.sh/fLOJZ/f8bb257703.jpg

01:04:696 (4,5) - Since you got the stream sorted in groups of four with jumps in between, why is there no jump between these notes? There are no jumps (unless you look at the older version), but I put a NC on the last note of the stream.

01:17:514 (8) - Ending a slider on the big white tick feels wrong since the most important notes are there. You can try this rhythm here: http://puu.sh/fLOTt/da268a16fb.jpg

01:18:241 (1,2) - The low spacing between these objects seems random.

01:23:514 (7) - Again, ignoring the downbeat seems weird. What about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/fLPhh/dba9ad0053.jpg

01:25:150 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Sort these in groups of three, pattern-wise and NC-wise, since the music highly suggests it with the loud violin sounds. Triangles could work well here.

There is still a long way to go. While this diff improved a lot from the last time I have checked it, especially the first half, there are still a lot of issues left. I mentioned the most important ones above. After you are done applying this mod, please check your NCing: It is possible to place NCs after patterns, but I can't see a system in your NCing, so it may be better to place them every big white tick instead and remove all the others, except when NCs are really needed differently and make sense (for example the patterns at 01:25:150 if you are going to group them differently, or for the stream segments at 01:03:332 etc). This difficulty will need some more professional mods to get ranked imo, but you made a huge step forward already so I know you can do it

Good luck!

Most of the NC placements were just fine, I redid them and thanks to your mod I re-did some more stuff, thanks.

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-14T12:23:22+00:00

Desperate-kun wrote: 2z4071
[Easy]

01:08:968 (2) - I would start this slider 1/2 later to catch the cymbal at 01:09:150 and have the sliderticks at the white ticks to sound a lot better. You could reverse 01:08:241 (1) if you have nothing against a 1/2-gap in Easy, because it would fit really well here. http://puu.sh/fLKYB/4c747569c0.jpg Followed your suggestion.

01:26:787 (2) - It would sound better to end this slider at 01:27:332 and add a circle at 01:27:696 Ok

Good!

[Normal]

00:14:605 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - The density here seems pretty high without a real indication in the music, so I would replace 00:16:059 (3) with a single circle to reduce it a bit. Made a different change there.

00:22:605 (3,4,5) - The strong beats of drums and other instruments are on the white ticks, so it doesn't make much sense to start the 1/2-sliders at the red ticks. What about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/fLLwz/65713561e3.jpg Followed your suggestion.

00:36:787 (3) - Again, the density seems unnecessarily high here (5 consecutive 1/2 beats mapped starting from 00:36:423 - while there is no indication in the music for such a density). I would replace 00:36:787 (3) - with a single circle. Ok

00:58:968 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Here it's the opposite - You got low density (only 1/1-objects) for four measures even though it's the start of the chorus. It's also inconsistent with 01:10:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) where you have a much higher density for the same musical phrases. My suggestions would be to add circles at 00:59:514 - 01:01:332 - and 01:02:787 Ok, followed your suggestion.

Could use some more mods to polish it a bit more, but overall it seems fine!

[Hard]

00:05:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - The intensity of the song rises with every note, but your spacing doesn't really compliment that - You got the highest spacing from (3) to (4) and then a much lower spacing from (4) to (1) although it should be atleast the same length telling from the music. What would work is having a regular triangle for (1) (2) (3) and higher spacing for (3) (4) (1) like this: http://puu.sh/fLMrn/5d9c6a3b12.jpg Or you can think of a different solution. Followed your suggestion.

00:11:696 (3,4,5,6,7) - (7) is the most emphasized note in the combo. Since a jump to a note gives a high stress to it, a stack does exactly the opposite. Therefore, I would recommend you to get rid of the stack completely, for example like this: http://puu.sh/fLMGF/21acf106df.jpg or to have the stack at the beginning of the curve, like this: http://puu.sh/fLMJf/fbee6c2f1b.jpg Followed your first suggestion.

00:38:242 (7) - A not-so-important thing but it would be nice to have equal spacing for both 1/1-gaps for a better look and flow: http://puu.sh/fLMPB/e4147aa320.jpg Ok, fixed that.

00:42:969 (1,2,3,4,1) - Similar problem to 00:05:151 - The intensity of the song doesn't rise with every note, so it would actually make sense to have equal spacings between (1) (2) (3) and (4), but the spacing from (4) to (1) should be higher or equal to that, not lower like it currently is. Please try to think of a good rearrange for this pattern. Fixed that. Hope it's better now.

00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8) - These antijumps look way too similar to some of the 1/4 in your map. It's spaced with 0,6 which is close to the half of your average 1/4-spacing 1,0. What about a pattern like this, it plays nice and has a similar effect: http://puu.sh/fLN9T/6468efce17.jpg Followed your suggestion.

00:53:151 (1,2,3,4,1) - Hmm it's the same issue again... I recommend you to increase the spacing between (4) and (1) somehow. Ok, fixed that.

This difficulty needs some more mods to make it more tidy, but seems mostly fine.

Good luck!

Thanks so much for your helpful mod~!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-18T19:46:03+00:00

Fixed some minor stuff that were out of place

SPOILER

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I am not sure where do I get a BN to check the map, I got some playtests and people enjoy the map as far as I know, but I wil try to keep on posting on #modreqs

Mei

1,053 posts

ed March 2012

2015-02-22T05:59:03+00:00

sorry for late ;w;

[A's Extra]

00:28:423 remove inherited point here
00:29:514 remove inherited point here
01:10:787 (2) - to 01:13:150 (1) - why are you using this hitsound pattern, i just feel pretty strange
01:17:877 (9,1) - switch NC?

[hard]

00:04:423 (3,4) - it is not really necessary to stack when this two are really far, i suggest you keep spacing 1.1x consistence
00:05:150 (1,2,3,4) - try use a regular shape will be better imo

Picture
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - make a 1.2x triangle? same spacing with 00:08:787 (2,3,4,5) -
00:22:605 (1) - move to somewhere like x88 y60 will be better
00:46:968 (1) - remove NC
01:17:514 (3,4,5) - try this

Picture

[normal]

00:36:605 (2) - remove this note sounds better
00:59:514 (2,5) - remove this 2
01:06:241 (4,5,6) - try this?

Picture
01:11:150 (2) - remove this
01:15:514 (5) - ^

call me back

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-22T16:32:02+00:00

Mei wrote: 3h1f57
sorry for late ;w; Don't worry about it~
[hard]

00:04:423 (3,4) - it is not really necessary to stack when this two are really far, i suggest you keep spacing 1.1x consistence Ok, fixed.

00:05:150 (1,2,3,4) - try use a regular shape will be better imo Ok, followed your suggestion.

Picture

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - make a 1.2x triangle? same spacing with 00:08:787 (2,3,4,5) - Ok, fixed that.

00:22:605 (1) - move to somewhere like x88 y60 will be better Ok, fixed.

00:46:968 (1) - remove NC Ok, removed that NC.

01:17:514 (3,4,5) - try this Followed your suggestion.

Picture

[normal]

00:36:605 (2) - remove this note sounds better Ok, removed that note.

00:59:514 (2,5) - remove this 2 Ok, removed.

01:06:241 (4,5,6) - try this? Followed your suggestion.

Picture

01:11:150 (2) - remove this Ok

01:15:514 (5) - ^ Ok

call me back

Fixed everything. Thanks Mei~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-22T17:15:53+00:00

Mei wrote: 3h1f57

[A's Extra]

00:28:423 remove inherited point here

00:29:514 remove inherited point here

01:10:787 (2) - to 01:13:150 (1) - why are you using this hitsound pattern, i just feel pretty strange I messed up a bit, oops!

01:17:877 (9,1) - switch NC?

All fixed, thanks!

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Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-22T19:30:01+00:00

A really minor change of the ugly stack that was on 00:35:514 (3,1) -

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-22T19:36:41+00:00

Updated~

Mei

1,053 posts

ed March 2012

2015-02-23T07:35:29+00:00

looks fine for me
bub

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T13:21:44+00:00

Mei wrote: 3h1f57
looks fine for me
bub

Thanks Mei~

AruOtta

1,303 posts

ed May 2012

2015-02-23T14:03:33+00:00

Bubble request ~

Easy 3c1s6b

01:08:241 (1) - This slider could be hard because of it's on red ticks =/ I suggest this pattern :

SPOILER

Normal 6g3l6m

00:19:696 (3) - This slider makes the pattern a bit strange, you could try this maybe (but that's just from my point of view) :

SPOILER

01:11:332 (2,3) - You should decrease (3)'s curve to make a better blanket

Hard 575l21

00:12:787 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved
00:35:333 (4,5,1) - There's a problem of distance snap here, the distance between (5) and (1) is too huge =/
01:20:242 (4,5,1) - Same problem here =/

Insane 4w3z3d

Perfect imo

A's Extra 254hc

00:11:423 - 00:11:514 - Maybe you could add some beats ? it feels empty a lot =/
00:37:150 (1,2,3) - I don't understand the hitsounding here ;w;
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern's rythm seems very strange, maybe because there's a few beat you didn't map =/
01:06:968 - You should add a circle here in my opinion
01:10:605 - The hitsounding should be the same as in the first part in this part

You should fix some of these suggestions, and then call me back :3

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-23T15:08:39+00:00

Kenterz wrote: 62734
Bubble request ~

A's Extra 254hc
00:11:423 - 00:11:514 - Maybe you could add some beats ? it feels empty a lot =/ I can't, it will be messy and not that playful if I want to stay loyal to the beat.
00:37:150 (1,2,3) - I don't understand the hitsounding here ;w; I heard 3 sexy drums so I put 3 sexy claps, they fit just fine imo
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern's rythm seems very strange, maybe because there's a few beat you didn't map =/ It is just irregular, I changed this part lots of times and it seems fine to me, but I realised I could make a triplet here, so I added 2 notes to make a triplet.
01:06:968 - You should add a circle here in my opinion
01:10:605 - The hitsounding should be the same as in the first part in this part Should be good now!

You should fix some of these suggestions, and then call me back :3

SPOILER

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T15:26:56+00:00

Kenterz wrote: 62734
Bubble request ~

Easy 3c1s6b
01:08:241 (1) - This slider could be hard because of it's on red ticks =/ I suggest this pattern : Ok, followed your suggestion

SPOILER

Normal 6g3l6m
00:19:696 (3) - This slider makes the pattern a bit strange, you could try this maybe (but that's just from my point of view) : Hm, I like mine more.

SPOILER

01:11:332 (2,3) - You should decrease (3)'s curve to make a better blanket Ok, I hope it looks better now.

Hard 575l21
00:12:787 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved Made a slight adjustment.
00:35:333 (4,5,1) - There's a problem of distance snap here, the distance between (5) and (1) is too huge =/ Ok, fixed that.
01:20:242 (4,5,1) - Same problem here =/ Fixed as well.

You should fix some of these suggestions, and then call me back :3

Thanks, Kenterz~

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T15:32:31+00:00

Updated

AruOtta

1,303 posts

ed May 2012

2015-02-23T15:54:49+00:00

Avishay wrote: x5733

Kenterz wrote: 62734
Bubble request ~

A's Extra 254hc
00:11:423 - 00:11:514 - Maybe you could add some beats ? it feels empty a lot =/ I can't, it will be messy and not that playful if I want to stay loyal to the beat.
Yeah but at the moment it's very hard to play... Maybe you could change the pattern ? =/

00:37:150 (1,2,3) - I don't understand the hitsounding here ;w; I heard 3 sexy drums so I put 3 sexy claps, they fit just fine imo
Yeah but you didn't have these 3 claps somewhere else on the map, and personally I don't heard these 3 sexy drums =/

00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5) - The pattern's rythm seems very strange, maybe because there's a few beat you didn't map =/ It is just irregular, I changed this part lots of times and it seems fine to me, but I realised I could make a triplet here, so I added 2 notes to make a triplet.
01:06:968 - You should add a circle here in my opinion I like it the way it is now.
Yeah but it breaks the flow a bit =/

01:10:605 - The hitsounding should be the same as in the first part in this part Should be good now!
No, you should use S:C4 instead of S:C4

You should fix some of these suggestions, and then call me back :3

You should try to fix these suggestions, it seems important for the rank in my opinion. Call me back :3

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-23T17:22:36+00:00

Had an IRC mod with Kenterz

Here's the updated diff:

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
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ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
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Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv_size milan- Avishay ryo
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AruOtta

1,303 posts

ed May 2012

2015-02-23T17:36:55+00:00

Everything should be good now :3

QUALIFIED (」・ω・)」

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T17:39:05+00:00

Kenterz wrote: 62734
Everything should be good now :3

QUALIFIED (」・ω・)」

Finally, lol~ Thanks

Ranger

939 posts

ed June 2011

2015-02-23T17:39:49+00:00

gratz~ :3

bibilicu

3,578 posts

ed October 2013

2015-02-23T18:18:38+00:00

OMG OMG gratz -Nya- for 3rd ranked map weeee

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T18:19:29+00:00

Lol! Thanks guys~

Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2015-02-23T18:48:17+00:00

lol nice nya xd
<3

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T19:05:28+00:00

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k
lol nice nya xd
<3

Thanks, Milan ^^
Great diff btw.

Mei

1,053 posts

ed March 2012

2015-02-23T20:15:23+00:00

gratz (:3[_____]

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-23T20:19:33+00:00

Mei wrote: 3h1f57
gratz (:3[_____]

Arigatou~ Thanks again for your bubble.

Avena

2,158 posts

ed December 2012

2015-02-24T12:04:32+00:00

00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-24T14:46:06+00:00

Priti wrote: 442112
00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.

Which diff are you reffering to?

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-24T14:49:58+00:00

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e

Priti wrote: 442112
00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.
Which diff are you reffering to?

To my diff, he has some deep hatred for me.

Priti wrote: 442112
00:11:332 (5,6,1,2,3) - What the hell is that supposed to be.

At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?

Pho

1,785 posts

ed November 2013

2015-02-24T15:17:16+00:00

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k
lol nice nya xd
<3

I thought you were ded oO

I feel like the Extra diff has issues with spacing control and many forced flows like 01:14:787 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - or the one mentioned by Priti; it doesn't really look like this diff is ready for ranked yet. :/

Avishay wrote: x5733
At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?

Not sure who told you this, but this sounds completely wrong/overmapped to me as there isn't a noticeable beat at the blue tick, it's just a fainting note from the e-guitar. I supposed you wanted to do something like this:

SPOILER

Welp, whatever, just ing by~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-24T16:54:07+00:00

Pho wrote: 275c35

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k
lol nice nya xd
<3
I thought you were ded oO

I feel like the Extra diff has issues with spacing control and many forced flows like 01:14:787 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - or the one mentioned by Priti; it doesn't really look like this diff is ready for ranked yet. :/

Avishay wrote: x5733
At first 00:11:423 (6) - didn't exist but I was told that it was too empty so I added this note, what's the problem?
Not sure who told you this, but this sounds completely wrong/overmapped to me as there isn't a noticeable beat at the blue tick, it's just a fainting note from the e-guitar. I supposed you wanted to do something like this:

SPOILER

Welp, whatever, just ing by~

Originally I followed the drums only there, but I was requested by Kenterz to follow the guitar as well, to remove the awkward space.
As for the other pattern, what's the purpose of saying "forced flow"? I cut the stream into 3 parts and increased spacing gradually.

TicClick

Global

4,455 posts

ed February 2011

2015-02-24T19:47:56+00:00

Hello, I am going to disqualify this mapset for the following:

[Avishay's Extra]

00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - this pattern looks and feels random and forced among the others that surround it, moreover, 6 should not start on blue tick, as it makes it way less readable/playable.
At least these objects are wrongly snapped:
1. 00:37:696 (4) - should be 2×1/6 + 1/4: http://puu.sh/gaZet/f076c6ee4f.jpg, or just 4×1/6
2. 00:39:877 (1) - ^
3. 00:41:150 (7,8,1) - 2×1/6 + 1/4
4. 01:10:514 (8) - should be 1/6 as well
This also applies to all difficulties that have objects at these timestamps.

Why did I say "at least"? Because it seems that the situation is, in fact, worse, and the map is mistimed. For example, take 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) or 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) — still Avishay's difficulty — and pay attention to how 4 and 5 sound. I have no means to check the timing right now, so you may want to start looking for someone who is able to help you.

There also may be a better solution; try finding a better .mp3 file [if it exists] and see if the drum line is in sync.

Last, but not least: please, get some more mods, especially on Extra, to improve its quality; Desperate has already asked you to do so two weeks ago: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/p/3858357, and I'm gonna him on his request.

P.S. You know the usual procedure: after everything that was a problem is fixed, you may start looking for nominators again.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-24T21:05:03+00:00

TicClick wrote: s5g5y
Hello, I am going to disqualify this mapset for the following:

[Avishay's Extra]

00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - this pattern looks and feels random and forced among the others that surround it, moreover, 6 should not start on blue tick, as it makes it way less readable/playable.

At least these objects are wrongly snapped:

00:37:696 (4) - should be 2×1/6 + 1/4: http://puu.sh/gaZet/f076c6ee4f.jpg, or just 4×1/6

00:39:877 (1) - ^

00:41:150 (7,8,1) - 2×1/6 + 1/4

01:10:514 (8) - should be 1/6 as well

This also applies to all difficulties that have objects at these timestamps.

Why did I say "at least"? Because it seems that the situation is, in fact, worse, and the map is mistimed. For example, take 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) or 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) — still Avishay's difficulty — and pay attention to how 4 and 5 sound. I have no means to check the timing right now, so you may want to start looking for someone who is able to help you.

There also may be a better solution; try finding a better .mp3 file [if it exists] and see if the drum line is in sync.

Last, but not least: please, get some more mods, especially on Extra, to improve its quality; Desperate has already asked you to do so two weeks ago: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/p/3858357, and I'm gonna him on his request.

P.S. You know the usual procedure: after everything that was a problem is fixed, you may start looking for nominators again.

Alright, I had everything timed properly before, but I was requested by modders and BNs to make it a simple 1/4, simply because it is too irregular and following all the 1/12,1/6 and 1/8 snapped beats will feel wrong.

I honestly don't know what to say about the first thing you noted, it was just fine but I was requested by Kenterz to change it, since it was too empty and awkward, so I tried to not mess up too much and changed it for how it is now.

I invite you to take a look at older mods / diff versions and see that I had a lot of proper snaps, but they were irregular compared to the 1/4 everyone is so used to.

I'll happily stick to the precise timing of everything, but people will have a bad time playing it, no matter how you map it, really. I think Milan's diff is as good as it is now, and changing the timing to complex patterns will ruin its' quality.

Please have some more discussions about this, as for now I just reverted the change I made in the first pattern, and removed the slider (6).

SPOILER

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-24T21:18:26+00:00

Ok, the timing of the entire map is fine.
So I guess I'll just get more mods for Avishay's diff since Milan's diff and my diffs are fine.

It's not such a big issue. I'll get this map up and running again.

Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2015-02-24T22:26:09+00:00

Better get someone to edit the mp3 manually. Everything is out of sync imo (that's why things ends on 1/12 1/8 etc, which is unplayable).
Or get somone good at timming and get an unplayable 1000 red lines, like ticclick said i think
(not sure if pishifat still do it, you can ask him i guess lolol)

HabiHolic

5,460 posts

ed October 2012

2015-02-25T04:05:57+00:00

00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - hmm... suggust?

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Brazzers_old_1

Brazzers_old_1 2015-02-25T08:07:28+00:00

If this is still disqualified
After playing Avishay's sexy extra diff I noticed that I literally can't get HR accuracy on it if I play it without modifying the offset, let's test it nomod

That's with the regular offset

I'll edit this in like 10 minutes when I find a good local offset for me

edit:
-9ms local offset feels better

Pretty sure it's the offset

Also in the song's metadata, afaik vocaloid names shouldn't be used in the artist field so it should be just "supercell" and to have hatsune_miku on tags or something

Ringating

717 posts

ed August 2013

2015-02-25T08:30:50+00:00

from pm

none of the mp3s I found fixed your problem (tho someone else may be posting a fixed version shortly), but your bg was pretty gross (somewhat squished vertically, compression artifacts) so I got you a much cleaner image.

the png is pretty efficient here, so I suggest leaving it as one

no kds

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,817 posts

ed August 2013

2015-02-25T09:27:09+00:00

drums are less stupid with this mp3 at offset 1430

also use ringating's background ;-;

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-25T11:04:56+00:00

I could go over the map and snap everything correctly, but as Milan said it will be unplayable since everything will be irregular and out of sync, and if I have to snap objects correctly in my diff, Milan will probably have to do so too.

HabiHolic wrote: 4a2p2z
00:11:423 (6,1,2,3) - hmm... suggust?

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I thank you for trying to come up with something, but after looking at this pattern for a while, I honestly think it will be better to leave 00:11:423 and 00:11:514 unmapped.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-25T16:11:57+00:00

Thanks so much for your help guys~
I changed the BG, it looks very nice. Thanks Ringating!~
I changed the mp3. The diffs play so nicely now. Thanks pishifat!~

Updated my diffs and Avishay's diff. Now I'm just waiting for Milan- . . .

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-25T16:56:28+00:00

New MP3 fixed a lot of the weird rhythms.

Modem

3,013 posts

ed February 2014

2015-02-28T09:41:40+00:00

Go! Get this map ranked again -Nya-! I'll always you~ (> w <)/
Have a star~★

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-02-28T17:39:22+00:00

Got some minor play tests and IRC mods.

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osu file format v14

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-28T18:22:03+00:00

Modem wrote: 30576d
Go! Get this map ranked again -Nya-! I'll always you~ (> w <)/
Have a star~★

Thanks for your , Modem-chan~

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-28T19:22:41+00:00

Ok, I fixed Milan's diff and updated the other diffs.
Time to get this ranked~

bibilicu

3,578 posts

ed October 2013

2015-02-28T19:28:15+00:00

Would you like to rebubble it ? :3 But I'm not an BN yet

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-28T19:32:06+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote: 2a4e2c
Would you like to rebubble it ? :3 But I'm not an BN yet

Lol, yeah, I want to. I'm already busy asking BN's so don't worry. This will be reranked soon~

Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2015-02-28T22:27:46+00:00

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e
Ok, I fixed Milan's diff and updated the other diffs.
Time to get this ranked~

aii sorry i was kinda afk, but it was just offset change so thanks xD
btw did you change the video offset too?owo

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-02-28T22:40:19+00:00

Oh poo, I totally forgot about the vid.
Lol XD I'll fix it tomorrow.

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,846 posts

ed August 2013

2015-03-09T20:53:25+00:00

general

tbh i really think it wouldve been better if you just cut the full version of this song, usually tv sizes are crappy quality

ill mod extra for now

so ill be pointing out some asthetic issues and structure i guess

00:02:885 (1,2) - it doesn't look good to have things barely overlap like this, either overlap them more or space it out
00:34:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:35:430 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:25:430 (1) - ^
00:07:612 (3) - move the last slider point up by a tad (for blanket)
00:08:340 (5,6) - u can just combine this to 1 slider, gives more diversity
00:26:520 (7,8) - ^
00:08:703 (1,2) - work on ur blanketing skills lol
00:10:885 (5) - nc will help in the middle of a big jump pattern, you can also change it up so that it's not just a triangle thing all the way through
00:11:703 (2,3,4) - turn this into a 1/2 slider, that rhythm will be better
00:12:340 (6) - no need a slider, a circle will work fine
00:14:158 (3,1) - in general, try to get rid of most 1/1 gaps as they stop flow and make things a bit awkward in this case u can turn 00:14:158 (3) - into a 1/2 slider to make it connect better
00:15:612 (6) - ^
00:49:067 (8,1) - ^
00:16:340 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - try experimenting with different jump lengths, atm they're just roughly the same and its boring to play. just stronger beats should get bigger jumps. which means 00:17:249 (7,1) - should definitely be a bigger jump
00:24:521 (5) - maybe nc here, this pattern is kinda troll
00:27:521 (2) - why overmap.
00:29:067 (1) - dont skip a drum sound just to extend the slider..
00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - wth dont try to be skystar pls lol
00:39:340 (2,3,4,5) - at least try to make this look even.
01:12:521 (5,6,2) - tone down the overmap for uir kiai parts.
01:23:158 (2) - ^
01:16:703 (1) - try something like this, looks better imo

SPOILER
01:27:430 (1,2,1,2) - i feel like this should be in the same combo
Your NCing also needs to be redone. It's not consistent, i recommend every downbeat as an easy way to make it consistent.
hitsounds i guess.. will need some consluting

general advice
you should try to create a feel of intensity. so slower parts in the song should deserve simpler rhythm, and smaller jumps as opposed to a kiai which should be bigger jumps and more complicated rhythm
either cover 1/1 gaps with a 1/2 slider or an antijump, otherwise sometimes it will be annoying to read.

guineaQ

1,588 posts

ed December 2013

2015-03-09T21:01:23+00:00

err I might look at extra after Avishay reply to Quib's mod

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-03-09T21:25:48+00:00

Thanks so much guys~
I'm sure Avishay will reply to Kibbleru's mod soon.

Adol Christin

875 posts

ed October 2012

2015-03-09T22:43:23+00:00

Finished reading the thread from page 12. ~~Gonna wait as well.~~
Right. A bit busy recently. I'll mod asap.

Last edited by Adol Christin 2015-03-11T09:57:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-03-10T19:43:46+00:00

Kibbleru wrote: 6p3k2d
general

tbh i really think it wouldve been better if you just cut the full version of this song, usually tv sizes are crappy quality

ill mod extra for now

so ill be pointing out some asthetic issues and structure i guess

00:02:885 (1,2) - it doesn't look good to have things barely overlap like this, either overlap them more or space it out v
00:34:885 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ v
00:35:430 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ v
01:25:430 (1) - ^ v

00:07:612 (3) - move the last slider point up by a tad (for blanket) v

00:08:340 (5,6) - u can just combine this to 1 slider, gives more diversity Nah, I want to be consistent and I prefer it this way.
00:26:520 (7,8) - ^ ^

00:08:703 (1,2) - work on ur blanketing skills lol Improved :S

00:10:885 (5) - nc will help in the middle of a big jump pattern, you can also change it up so that it's not just a triangle thing all the way through Added NC

00:11:703 (2,3,4) - turn this into a 1/2 slider, that rhythm will be better Better indeed on strong notes.

00:12:340 (6) - no need a slider, a circle will work fine I prefer the slider here.

00:14:158 (3,1) - in general, try to get rid of most 1/1 gaps as they stop flow and make things a bit awkward in this case u can turn 00:14:158 (3) - into a 1/2 slider to make it connect better I don't want a 1/2 slider where it ends on nothing and feels awkward, made a long slider and changed the pattern to be nicer overall.
00:15:612 (6) - ^ ^
00:49:067 (8,1) - ^ V

00:16:340 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - try experimenting with different jump lengths, atm they're just roughly the same and its boring to play. just stronger beats should get bigger jumps. which means 00:17:249 (7,1) - should definitely be a bigger jump Reworked pattern.

00:24:521 (5) - maybe nc here, this pattern is kinda troll There used to be a NC.. And some people said it is confusing with NC.. Used NC again.

00:27:521 (2) - why overmap. Goes with the vocals and consistency with pattern.

00:29:067 (1) - dont skip a drum sound just to extend the slider.. I think it sounds better like this, I want to follow the long vocal while maintaining the strong beat pressable.

00:32:340 (3,4,5,6) - wth dont try to be skystar pls lol 00:32:612 (5,6) - Both are on strong beats and 00:32:520 is not, I want to maintain the current pattern as I think it goes nicely.

00:39:340 (2,3,4,5) - at least try to make this look even. I am not sure how this got f*ck up like this, fixed.

01:12:521 (5,6,2) - tone down the overmap for uir kiai parts. If I delete the first 2, there'll be a blank beat and it will be awkward, the triplet is a nice build-up for the vocal and the third note goes nicely with the long vocal, I think it is just fine, the hitsound do well here as well.
01:23:158 (2) - ^ Weps, doesn't do well, removed.

01:16:703 (1) - try something like this, looks better imo I like it, changed.

SPOILER

01:27:430 (1,2,1,2) - i feel like this should be in the same combo I don't

Your NCing also needs to be redone. It's not consistent, i recommend every downbeat as an easy way to make it consistent. I think they are fine, I went through everything and everything is there for a reason..

hitsounds i guess.. will need some consluting [/color]

general advice

you should try to create a feel of intensity. so slower parts in the song should deserve simpler rhythm, and smaller jumps as opposed to a kiai which should be bigger jumps and more complicated rhythm

either cover 1/1 gaps with a 1/2 slider or an antijump, otherwise sometimes it will be annoying to read.

Thank you for the great mod, I've learned new stuff and hopefully improve my maps thanks to you and other people.

SPOILER

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Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,846 posts

ed August 2013

2015-03-10T19:58:16+00:00

quick check on the other diffs too
no kd

insane

fine probably

hard

hitsounds need to be better. you don't even use any claps t/306177 please read the beginning ish
00:21:066 (6,1) - space this out more, its a bit too similar to 00:21:793 (1,2) -
00:23:248 (1) - i think u can continue the 1/2 sliders to here, makes it connect better
01:22:339 (1,2,3) - this is just such a diff spike compared to the rest of the diff.. i don't understand why

normal

same hitsound thing as hard
01:07:430 - wrong place for clap i think

easy

seemed okay

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-03-11T18:49:04+00:00

Ok, updated Avishay's diff.
Will fix my diffs later, but I just want to get Avishay's diff sorted out first.

JudgeTheDude

595 posts

ed September 2011

2015-03-11T19:53:40+00:00

Hi, from my queue

[Easy]

00:30:520 (5,1) - They don't follow quite well, maybe rotate 00:30:520 (5) a bit and move it's orgin down a bit
00:37:793 (2,3,1) - Those three don't follow quite well. Maybe open 00:37:793 (2) a bit more to make the curve made by it's tail, 3 and 4 a bit more natural
01:00:339 (2) - Same here, open the curve a bit more so it looks and plays better

[Normal]

00:05:066 (2,3) - There's a spacing issue there, you come from 1.0x to 1.22x
00:20:884 (4) - This note feels weird. I think you can delete it. It doesn't follow any part of the music, and the pattern looks better without it
00:26:884 (4) - Up the central pat of that Slider a bit, so it follow the previous slider's line
01:03:611 (3,4,5,6,7) - This star pattern looks a bit weird. Try to adjust it. 7 or 5 isn't placed correctly

[Hard]

00:24:520 (6,7,8) - Why not blanket it ? It looks better. But you'll have to reshape the 3 notes
00:25:066 (1,2) - That doesn't look good. Either make the slider's curves a bit more pronounced, or rotate it. But try to make (1) blanket (2)
01:00:157 (2,3) - Adjust them to follow 00:59:611 (1)
01:04:339 (2,3) - They don't follow 01:03:975 (1) 's shape
01:09:611 (4) - You can improve that shape so it goes toward 01:10:157 (5)
01:20:520 (3,4) - They don't follow quite great

Sorry, I don't have the skills to mod Insane and Extra :/

To sum it up, there are lots of sliders that don't properly align with the notes they are followed by, or they follow. It's not a big issue, but it makes some parts feel awkward to play, and by fixing them, yout maps can look a lot better.

But good luck for rank !

Adol Christin

875 posts

ed October 2012

2015-03-11T21:24:30+00:00

Greeting Avishay, from -Nya-'s in-game PM.

Black Rock Shooter, supercell~

A's Extra 254hc

00:32:340 (3,4) - Not really suitable using 2 1/4 circles due to the music.
00:41:794 (7,8,1) - Slightly increase the distance.
00:51:067 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Suggest to change 5 to circle as well. They have the same sound in the music (I don't know the name of this sound, xD).
01:18:703 (2,3,4) - I personally dislike the flow.
01:20:067 (8,9) - Whistle?
00:07:612 (3) - I would prefer ctrl+g. This would make a better flow for 00:07:067 (4,5,1,2,3) - and a little jump for the next slider.
00:08:703 (1,2) - Wanna cover the short slider by the long one? But they are too close to each other, which looks weird.
00:10:158 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The hitsound should be the same from 4 to 4. I deleted your items and carefully listened to the music here, the drum sound in the song is the same all the time.
00:23:612 (3,1,2,3) - I personally hate this: anti-flow and jump. Suggest to change 00:23:794 (1,2,3) - to an opposite direction.
00:25:794 (5) - Prefer 1/2 slider+a circle.
00:31:067 (3,4) - Slider first, then circle. For vocal. In this case it's fine for me not to keep the sliderhead on a snare sound.
00:43:249 (9,1) - Switch clap and whistle.
00:47:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Use standard 2/4 clap hitsound please. The song does not change.
01:17:067 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:48:340 (3) - Even the drum sound slightly changed, it is still a kick sound. Whistle is quite weird for me.
01:05:067 (1) - Clap

That's all my mod. I am new to mod an Extra diff. Hope it can help.

Good luck for req~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-03-12T16:11:41+00:00

Adol Christin wrote: 24s5o
Greeting Avishay, from -Nya-'s in-game PM.

Black Rock Shooter, supercell~

A's Extra 254hc

00:32:340 (3,4) - Not really suitable using 2 1/4 circles due to the music. I think that's fine, refer to Kibbleru's mod if you want to.

00:41:794 (7,8,1) - Slightly increase the distance. Why?

00:51:067 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Suggest to change 5 to circle as well. They have the same sound in the music (I don't know the name of this sound, xD). I think it goes just fine as it is.

01:18:703 (2,3,4) - I personally dislike the flow. Reworked a bit.

01:20:067 (8,9) - Whistle? V

00:07:612 (3) - I would prefer ctrl+g. This would make a better flow for 00:07:067 (4,5,1,2,3) - and a little jump for the next slider. It would be overdoing it imo, I think it is fine.

00:08:703 (1,2) - Wanna cover the short slider by the long one? But they are too close to each other, which looks weird. Fixed.

00:10:158 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The hitsound should be the same from 4 to 4. I deleted your items and carefully listened to the music here, the drum sound in the song is the same all the time. Fixed.

00:23:612 (3,1,2,3) - I personally hate this: anti-flow and jump. Suggest to change 00:23:794 (1,2,3) - to an opposite direction. Should be better now

00:25:794 (5) - Prefer 1/2 slider+a circle. I like it as it is now.

00:31:067 (3,4) - Slider first, then circle. For vocal. In this case it's fine for me not to keep the sliderhead on a snare sound. Changed.

00:43:249 (9,1) - Switch clap and whistle. V

00:47:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Use standard 2/4 clap hitsound please. The song does not change. I think that's fine, I don't have to use the same set if the music doesn't change drastically.

01:17:067 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^

00:48:340 (3) - Even the drum sound slightly changed, it is still a kick sound. Whistle is quite weird for me. I think it is fine.

01:05:067 (1) - Clap V

That's all my mod. I am new to mod an Extra diff. Hope it can help.

Good luck for req~

Thanks!

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-Nya-

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ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-03-22T14:48:45+00:00

Kibbleru wrote: 6p3k2d
quick check on the other diffs too
no kd

hard

hitsounds need to be better. you don't even use any claps t/306177 please read the beginning ish Improved my hitsounding by adding more claps.

00:21:066 (6,1) - space this out more, its a bit too similar to 00:21:793 (1,2) - Fixed

00:23:248 (1) - i think u can continue the 1/2 sliders to here, makes it connect better Followed your suggestion

01:22:339 (1,2,3) - this is just such a diff spike compared to the rest of the diff.. i don't understand why Hm, not really. Since the song is pretty intense there, I think that pattern fits nicely.

normal

same hitsound thing as hard Yeah, added more claps.

01:07:430 - wrong place for clap i think Yeah it is. Fixed.

easy

seemed okay

Thanks, Kibbleru-san~!

-Nya-

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ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-03-22T14:57:08+00:00

JudgeTheDude wrote: 4al1d
Hi, from my queue

[Easy]

00:30:520 (5,1) - They don't follow quite well, maybe rotate 00:30:520 (5) a bit and move it's orgin down a bit Hm, I think it's fine.

00:37:793 (2,3,1) - Those three don't follow quite well. Maybe open 00:37:793 (2) a bit more to make the curve made by it's tail, 3 and 4 a bit more natural I don't know . . . they look fine to me.

01:00:339 (2) - Same here, open the curve a bit more so it looks and plays better I wanted to make a nice blanket there so I can't really open it more.

[Normal]

00:05:066 (2,3) - There's a spacing issue there, you come from 1.0x to 1.22x You're right. Fixed.

00:20:884 (4) - This note feels weird. I think you can delete it. It doesn't follow any part of the music, and the pattern looks better without it Ok, removed the note.

00:26:884 (4) - Up the central pat of that Slider a bit, so it follow the previous slider's line Nah, it's not really such a big issue.

01:03:611 (3,4,5,6,7) - This star pattern looks a bit weird. Try to adjust it. 7 or 5 isn't placed correctly ^

[Hard]

00:24:520 (6,7,8) - Why not blanket it ? It looks better. But you'll have to reshape the 3 notes It'll mess with the flow if I try blanketing them.

00:25:066 (1,2) - That doesn't look good. Either make the slider's curves a bit more pronounced, or rotate it. But try to make (1) blanket (2) Not really such a big issue.

01:00:157 (2,3) - Adjust them to follow 00:59:611 (1) ^

01:04:339 (2,3) - They don't follow 01:03:975 (1) 's shape ^

01:09:611 (4) - You can improve that shape so it goes toward 01:10:157 (5) ^

01:20:520 (3,4) - They don't follow quite great ^

Sorry, I don't have the skills to mod Insane and Extra :/

To sum it up, there are lots of sliders that don't properly align with the notes they are followed by, or they follow. It's not a big issue, but it makes some parts feel awkward to play, and by fixing them, yout maps can look a lot better.

But good luck for rank !

Thanks for the mod~
Sorry for not fixing much

-Nya-

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2015-03-22T15:03:05+00:00

Updated all the diffs and fixed the video's offset.

@Milan- and Avishay: Please update your diffs to the latest version since I fixed the video's offset.

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