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supercell feat. Hatsune Miku - BLACK ROCK SHOOTER 4b6n7

posted 2014-09-28T08:19:58+00:00

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-21T17:16:22+00:00

Avishay wrote: x5733
Silence the slider slide as well. I'm using Nya's hitsound set, the custom drum 1, I barely hear any slider slide, but he can probably add a hitsound to mute it.

I did add a silent slider sound in the songs folder, but for some reason I can't get it to work.

Avishay wrote: x5733
but he can probably

And I'm a girl

Setsurei

1,149 posts

ed May 2012

2014-10-21T23:51:41+00:00

[Normal]
00:12:423 (6,1) - avoid this kind of flow
00:14:968 (3,1) - ^
00:16:423 (3,4) - ^
00:24:423 (1,2) - recommended flow in blue, red cut flow. you may want to change the slider to a different shape

SPOILER

00:25:877 (3,4) - same case
so many issues like I stated above, so I won't mention any further
[Hard]
00:06:605 (1) - ctrl g
00:08:787 (3,4) - convert to slider
00:28:423 (1) - curve the opposite (to the left), the flow is not good if it curves to the right
00:48:059 (3) - ctrl g
00:50:242 (1) - curve the opposite, and shift 00:50:787 (2,3) - to a higher place a bit
00:52:241 (2) - 264|296
00:52:423 (3) - 200|340
01:02:605 (3) - this one curve to the north west, curve the opposite(to the south east) to blanket 01:02:969 (4) -
[Milan-'s Insane]
00:00:968 (2) - stack with 00:02:605 (4) -
00:02:787 (5,6,7) - not a good flow, might want to move this somewhere with different pattern

SPOILER

00:18:059 (9,1) - switch place
00:43:514 (5,7) - ^
00:56:605 (5) - stack with 00:54:968 (3) - 's head
01:05:332 (2,4) - switch place
[A's Extra]
00:08:423 (2) - this kind of stacking is kinda dangerous for rankable issue, to countermeasure please move it somewhere
00:25:150 (1) - stack properly with 00:24:423 (1) -
00:49:423 (3,4) - overlap
00:56:059 (1,2) - ^
01:09:605 (6,7,8,1,2) - improve this shape, smoother flow is better than sharp
01:16:059 (1,2) - overlap
01:21:150 (2,3) - ^
01:24:423 (4,5) - prefer (5) a bit up

good luck

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-10-22T12:22:02+00:00

Setsurei wrote: 4q164h

[A's Extra]
00:08:423 (2) - this kind of stacking is kinda dangerous for rankable issue, to countermeasure please move it somewhere I don't think there will be any problems, there's a full beat difference until the stacking happends.
00:25:150 (1) - stack properly with 00:24:423 (1) - V
00:49:423 (3,4) - overlap You mean the overlap beteween 2 and 4? Eitherway, I fixed and changed the pattern a bit.
00:56:059 (1,2) - ^ Not sure again, 1 and 2 supposed to overlap, but I noticed that 4 and 2 overlapped, so I fixed it.
01:09:605 (6,7,8,1,2) - improve this shape, smoother flow is better than sharp I hope it is better now.
01:16:059 (1,2) - overlap It is on purpose.
01:21:150 (2,3) - ^ ^
01:24:423 (4,5) - prefer (5) a bit up Changed.

good luck

Hey setsurei, thank you for the mod!

By the way Nya, the AiMod says the diff tags conflict with the others, is it a problem on my side or you just forgot to insert something somewhere?

Here's the diff:

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 4.099998

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,892,"Black Rock Shooter - Opening HD.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-10-22T12:25:59+00:00

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e

Avishay wrote: x5733
Silence the slider slide as well. I'm using Nya's hitsound set, the custom drum 1, I barely hear any slider slide, but he can probably add a hitsound to mute it.
I did add a silent slider sound in the songs folder, but for some reason I can't get it to work.

Avishay wrote: x5733
but he can probably
And I'm a girl

SORRY! I'm really sorry ._.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-22T15:39:15+00:00

Setsurei wrote: 4q164h

[Normal]
00:12:423 (6,1) - avoid this kind of flow
00:14:968 (3,1) - ^ ^
00:16:423 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:24:423 (1,2) - recommended flow in blue, red cut flow. you may want to change the slider to a different shape
SPOILER

00:25:877 (3,4) - same case No, I think I'm gonna keep the slider shape. I think it fits with the vocals and I like wavy sliders
so many issues like I stated above, so I won't mention any further I don't think my flow is really a problem, but will still see other modders' opinions
[Hard]
00:06:605 (1) - ctrl g No change, I did that to not make it in a single straight line. It's kind of a small jump
00:08:787 (3,4) - convert to slider No, I like the line of hitcircles better for consistency, and I think it s the flow better
00:28:423 (1) - curve the opposite (to the left), the flow is not good if it curves to the right Ok, followed your suggestion
00:48:059 (3) - ctrl g No, keeping my pattern. I like the flow better, and it makes the next jump a bit harder
00:50:242 (1) - curve the opposite, and shift 00:50:787 (2,3) - to a higher place a bit Sorry, no change. I just like my flow and pattern more
00:52:241 (2) - 264|296 Good idea! Fixed
00:52:423 (3) - 200|340 ^
01:02:605 (3) - this one curve to the north west, curve the opposite(to the south east) to blanket 01:02:969 (4) - I did make a blanket there now, but I changed it to blanket 01:02:242 (2) - instead.
good luck Thanks!

Thanks so much for your mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-22T15:40:37+00:00

Avishay wrote: x5733
By the way Nya, the AiMod says the diff tags conflict with the others, is it a problem on my side or you just forgot to insert something somewhere?

I didn't see any problems in AiMod . . .

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e
but he can probably
And I'm a girl

Avishay wrote: x5733
SORRY! I'm really sorry ._.

No worries

Fushimi Rio

Fushimi Rio 2014-10-23T05:39:02+00:00

From PM

[Easy]

no issues.

[Normal]

00:03:696 (1,2) - is this necessary? I think use the same rhythm as before is better.
00:42:241 (3,4) - fix the blanket

[Hard]

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - too big jumps ;w;
00:15:332 (1,2) - try this?

00:19:696 (4,5,6) - maybe this would be better

01:26:787 (1,2,3) - hmm...?

[Insane]

00:21:150 (1,3) - move 3 a bit apart from 1 would be easier to read. same to 2,4
00:32:787 (1,3) - ^

[Extra]

I'm not sure about some parts' rhythm and the 1/8s. (but I'm too weak at rhythm to give suggestions
Also, some parts are hard to read because of inappropriate ds between notes. Plz pay more attention to this.
Drum-clap doesn't fit the song imo. Maybe you need to just remap the hitsound.

00:05:877 (1) - overlapping on slider's reverse arrow is unrankable.
00:12:787 (1,2) - I don't understand why not to make a blanket.
00:41:120 (9) - ……what?
00:47:514 (2,3) - ctrl+g
01:00:332 (8,1,2,3,1) - not a good flow imo

Not much to say. Good luck.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-10-23T10:19:54+00:00

imoutosan wrote: 585uc
[Extra]

I'm not sure about some parts' rhythm and the 1/8s. (but I'm too weak at rhythm to give suggestions Listetning in 25% playback rate will help.
Also, some parts are hard to read because of inappropriate ds between notes. Plz pay more attention to this. This is an extra diff, I played it and at the moment everything seems good to me, if you have specific problematic areas, please mention them.
Drum-clap doesn't fit the song imo. Maybe you need to just remap the hitsound. Maybe, if more people will mention it I will look for other hitsounds, because those are Nya's ATM.

00:05:877 (1) - overlapping on slider's reverse arrow is unrankable. Why is that? It is not hard to read and I couldn't find anything in the ranking criteria about it.
00:12:787 (1,2) - I don't understand why not to make a blanket. It is a blanket? Instead of going to the outer side it goes inside the slider, what's the problem?
00:41:120 (9) - ……what? Try to listen to that part in 25% playback rate, this circle lands 1/12 tick before the beat ends.
00:47:514 (2,3) - ctrl+g Nice, Ilike it. However I will rotate them and move a bit to the left so there will be no overlap
01:00:332 (8,1,2,3,1) - not a good flow imo Changed

Not much to say. Good luck.

Thank you~

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
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OverallDifficulty:7.5
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples
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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-23T13:52:01+00:00

imoutosan wrote: 585uc
From PM

[Easy]

no issues.

[Normal]

00:03:696 (1,2) - is this necessary? I think use the same rhythm as before is better. I just changed the rhythm there to spice it up a bit, since it's a normal diff
00:42:241 (3,4) - fix the blanket Ok, improved the blanket

[Hard]

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - too big jumps ;w; Moved 00:07:332 (2) - a bit closer
00:15:332 (1,2) - try this? Ok, followed your suggestion

00:19:696 (4,5,6) - maybe this would be better Yeah, followed your suggestion

01:26:787 (1,2,3) - hmm...? No, I like the stack better

Not much to say. Good luck. Thanks!

Thank you very much for the mod!

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,540 posts

ed April 2012

2014-10-25T13:26:50+00:00

Shall look at your difficulties

General

First object is at 00:00:787 - add 1500 to AudioLeadIn in .osu for all difficulties in Notepad to have enough time at the start of the song

It gets bland in of hitsounds when you only have Finishes most of the time

Easy

There is not consistency in the combo patterns

00:03:696 (3) - NC
00:11:696 (1) - remove NC
00:12:787 (2) - NC
00:21:150 (4) - NC
00:21:877 (1) - remove NC
etc. etc. new combo after every 8 white lines
00:35:696 (1) - in of flow, ctrl + G would make better sense
00:56:059 (1) - ^ going downwards after 00:54:605 (4) would be nicer
01:08:241 (4,5) - convert into 1 slider, this makes it easier for newer players to hit this, which is off-beat

The difficulty needs to be arranged nicer to look better, but I'll leave that to people with more creativity and artistic ability to suggest them

Normal

00:11:514 (4,5) - placing the next object behind the previous objects doesn't imrpove flow at all

SPOILER

00:12:787 (1,2) - if you want them facing the same direction, blanket them nicely
00:15:332 (1) - you're gonna have to Ctrl + H this slider to make the flow better, making the slider face away from the flow is a bad idea
00:31:877 (2,3) - same as 00:11:514 (4,5)
01:06:787 (5,6) - ^
01:13:150 (5,6,1) - don't stack 01:13:150 (5,6) in this Normal, it is weird and more confusing than it should be

Can look much better

Hard

00:24:969 (2,3) - blanket nicely
00:48:787 (1,2,3,4) - the finish spam here is awkward
01:18:787 (3,4,5) - weird place to stack
01:23:696 (6) - finish on the middle/repeat end of the slider

Make the patterns look more connected together to be more organised

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-25T15:56:28+00:00

neonat wrote: 375v4a
Shall look at your difficulties

General

First object is at 00:00:787 - add 1500 to AudioLeadIn in .osu for all difficulties in Notepad to have enough time at the start of the song Ok, changed the audio lead-in to 1500 for my three diffs

It gets bland in of hitsounds when you only have Finishes most of the time I think the finishes is effective enough. I don't want to overuse hitsounds

Easy

There is not consistency in the combo patterns

00:03:696 (3) - NC Ok
00:11:696 (1) - remove NC Ok
00:12:787 (2) - NC Ok
00:21:150 (4) - NC Ok
00:21:877 (1) - remove NC Ok
etc. etc. new combo after every 8 white lines I fixed the NC where I could
00:35:696 (1) - in of flow, ctrl + G would make better sense Ok
00:56:059 (1) - ^ going downwards after 00:54:605 (4) would be nicer Yeah, good idea. Fixed
01:08:241 (4,5) - convert into 1 slider, this makes it easier for newer players to hit this, which is off-beat Followed your suggestion

The difficulty needs to be arranged nicer to look better, but I'll leave that to people with more creativity and artistic ability to suggest them

Normal

00:11:514 (4,5) - placing the next object behind the previous objects doesn't imrpove flow at all Ok, fixed that

SPOILER

00:12:787 (1,2) - if you want them facing the same direction, blanket them nicely Tried my best to improve the blanket
00:15:332 (1) - you're gonna have to Ctrl + H this slider to make the flow better, making the slider face away from the flow is a bad idea
00:31:877 (2,3) - same as 00:11:514 (4,5) Fixed it
01:06:787 (5,6) - ^ Fixed
01:13:150 (5,6,1) - don't stack 01:13:150 (5,6) in this Normal, it is weird and more confusing than it should be

Can look much better

Hard

00:24:969 (2,3) - blanket nicely Ok
00:48:787 (1,2,3,4) - the finish spam here is awkward Ok, I added soft-whistles instead
01:18:787 (3,4,5) - weird place to stack I removed the stack
01:23:696 (6) - finish on the middle/repeat end of the sliderOk

Make the patterns look more connected together to be more organised

Thanks so much! Tried to make more adjustments as best I can.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-25T15:59:25+00:00

Milan- and Avishay: Please don't forget to change the audio lead-in to 1500

Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2014-10-25T19:49:56+00:00

Setsurei

Setsurei wrote: 4q164h
[Milan-'s Insane]
00:00:968 (2) - stack with 00:02:605 (4) - Not neccesary since there's a whole messure gap
00:02:787 (5,6,7) - not a good flow, might want to move this somewhere with different pattern
SPOILER

It's good flow playing
00:18:059 (9,1) - switch place ^^
00:43:514 (5,7) - ^ ^^
00:56:605 (5) - stack with 00:54:968 (3) - 's head Not neccesary since there's a whole messure gap but ok :3
01:05:332 (2,4) - switch place good flow for me[/color]

imoutosan

imoutosan wrote: 585uc
[Insane]

00:21:150 (1,3) - move 3 a bit apart from 1 would be easier to read. same to 2,4 Alright
00:32:787 (1,3) - ^

Thanks!
changed also kiai (for some reason i forgot it) and added audio lead in :3

mapp

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
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TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:Milan-'s Insane
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:521681
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Asahina Momoko

1,008 posts

ed November 2013

2014-10-27T22:26:05+00:00

hi, from M4M in game:DD

almost all position and flow is good, so it is only suggestion.

[Beginner]
・00:44:423 (1) - this slider is too long, remove or make more short the reverse and add some objects.
・01:08:241 (4,1) - make a combo (1,2)
・01:26:787 (1) - remove NC

[Nromal]
・00:00:787 (1) - how about making slide symmetry like this?

SPOILER

・00:34:241 (3,4,5) - make a curve and good flow like this.

SPOILER

[Hard]
・00:42:969 (1,2,3) - , 00:42:969 (1,2,4) - make equilateral triangle.
・01:03:333 (1,2,3) - , 01:03:333 (1,2,4) - ^^
・01:26:787 (1,2,3) - how about move to left and make square with 01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ?

[Milan-'s Insane]
・00:05:514 (3) - make it 1/2 slider, and separate from next slider.

example

・00:15:877 (4,5,6) - how about copy 00:15:332 (1,2,3) - and turn it?
・00:17:514 (5) - make NC
・00:18:240 (1) - remove NC
・00:18:605 (2) - make NC
・00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - how about place like this?

SPOILER

[A's Extra]
・00:28:968 (4) - change to circle
・00:52:059 (5) - separate from next circle, its very confused.
・01:10:302 (6,7) - make more short and separate them.
・01:10:302 (6,7,1) - and these are not on scale...?
・01:15:332 (1,1,1) - remove NC
・01:23:756 (1) - not on scale

good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-10-28T10:38:28+00:00

M o k o r i wrote: 6h1018
[A's Extra]
・00:28:968 (4) - change to circle I guess I will, I stacked them and the next pattern, it will be a bit hard to realise they're 1/6 but it is extra after all.
・00:52:059 (5) - separate from next circle, its very confused. Changed spacing a bit.
・01:10:302 (6,7) - make more short and separate them. I tried it and I changed it to a nicer pattern.
・01:10:302 (6,7,1) - and these are not on scale...? 1/6 ticks, they're fine.
・01:15:332 (1,1,1) - remove NC I want to leave it as it is.
・01:23:756 (1) - not on scale Same as before

good luck!

Thank you for mod!

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 5.199997

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,892,"Black Rock Shooter - Opening HD.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Combo2 : 0,125,251
Combo3 : 131,131,131
Combo4 : 132,132,255

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-28T14:34:07+00:00

M o k o r i wrote: 6h1018
hi, from M4M in game:DD

almost all position and flow is good, so it is only suggestion.

[Beginner]
・00:44:423 (1) - this slider is too long, remove or make more short the reverse and add some objects. I removed the repeat and added other notes
・01:08:241 (4,1) - make a combo (1,2) Ok
・01:26:787 (1) - remove NC Ok

[Nromal]
・00:00:787 (1) - how about making slide symmetry like this? No change. I'm okay with what I have now
SPOILER

・00:34:241 (3,4,5) - make a curve and good flow like this. Ok, followed your suggestion
SPOILER

[Hard]
・00:42:969 (1,2,3) - , 00:42:969 (1,2,4) - make equilateral triangle. Ok, I hope it looks better now
・01:03:333 (1,2,3) - , 01:03:333 (1,2,4) - ^^ ^
・01:26:787 (1,2,3) - how about move to left and make square with 01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ? No, because I want 01:28:060 (1) - to be in the middle and I want it to be blanketed.

good luck! Thanks!

Thank you for the mod!

Gaia

2,808 posts

ed May 2013

2014-10-29T02:30:30+00:00

Nyaaaaa >w<
from my queue

[General]
this page says the the vocal is Miku Hatsune but this one has the metadata u have, buuuut its a cancelled album lol.
JUST POINTING IT OUT THERE

The spread might be a problem, my map had a jump between hard (3.16) to insane (4.40) and it had problems so try to decrease the gap between urs too

hitsounds can be improved in pretty much all the diffs except insane i guess
[Beginner]
Beginner isn't part of the typical ENHIX spread and since the majority of ur diffs follows that pattern i'd suggest naming this diff Easy
Your spacing is inconsistent!! look at 00:15:332 (1,2,3) - or 00:20:787 (3,1,2) - for example! go back and fix everything with 1.0x DS
00:00:787 (1,2,3) - as a whole it doesnt look very attractive, try widening the curve so that there is no overlap

SPOILER

00:13:150 (2,3,1) - this isnt the best flow, and tbh the same shape right after another really isnt my thing. try curving 00:15:332 (1) - the other way and u can also have a nice blanket pattern with 00:16:059 (2) - ! http://puu.sh/cuoMC/35abc3574e.jpg
00:40:423 (2) - consider making it an anchor so it goes off of 00:41:514 (1) - nicely
00:46:241 (2,1,2) - not the best flow

its not bad, but i think aesthetically speaking this could be improved much more (more beautiful sliders) example is perhaps 00:48:059 (3,4,5,1) - 00:53:150 (1,2,3,1) - 01:11:332 (2,3,4,1) -

[Normal]
00:04:423 (2) - minor but i think would look better if it was more to the right
00:07:696 (3,4) - 00:08:787 (5,1) - try to have the same blanketing distance o3o
00:11:696 (5) - 00:10:968 (3) - can have better flow
00:19:696 (4) - blanket looks really rigid s:
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4,1) - dunno if u'll like this http://puu.sh/cutSi/426a36c204.jpg
00:26:968 (5,1) - nc, remove nc
00:26:968 (1,2,3,1,1,2) - try this rhythm

00:31:332 (1) - for consistent ncing remove this one
00:31:877 (2,3) - switch places in timeline to match vocals?
00:41:332 (5) - unneccessary note that just increases the difficulty
00:47:150 (5) - ^
00:56:241 (1) - im not very sure if this spinner is too short for an easy diff, u might want to check with someone else for this

same thing as easy about the sliders i guess s:

[Hard]
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - these jumps are op compared to like 00:08:605 (2,3) - these ones
00:16:605 (1) - please nerf
00:20:059 (6,7) - u wanna overlap like half the slider

SPOILER

00:30:968 (3,1) - this flow s:
00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - 00:45:878 (1,2,3,4,5) - they have the same spacing yet not the same rhythm, and tbh i think 00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - is where u can have larger jumps lol. (something like 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - ?) same thing applies for 00:53:151 (1,2,3,4) -
00:47:333 (1) - curve this the other way, creates a nice flow variation and flows nicely into the next note too. also avoids sharing the same shape as 00:48:059 (3) -
01:11:332 (3,4) - flow tho
01:16:969 (2) - make this a normal slider bow (no curve) it looks much better with the overlapping
01:28:060 (1) - u didnt nc the last note of all ur other diffs so its best to be consistent

[Milan-'s Insane]

First game of the day for a person who hasnt played in like 2 months:D

replay here cuz i know Milan likes to watch my bad testplays

00:05:877 (4) - found this weird to play (fix the flow?)
00:06:605 (1) - ^

try this shape

00:29:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - the (2) has really bad flow cuz the slider points down, u can still have the jumps but

why not

00:40:423 (2,3,4,5) - u had that nc spam earlier with the same pattern so u should be consistent (tbh the nc spam is unneccessary to me)
00:53:696 (2,3,4) - rather have the manual stack towards the left more for better flow

[A's Extra]
sorry. I honestly cannot bring myself to mod this diff. it's way too overmapped
really weird rhythms and patterns, like look at 00:44:423 (1,2) - nothing (noticable) in the music requires a 1/6
00:52:059 (5) - 1/6 kickslider here, 00:52:877 (3) - 1/4 kickslider there,
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - doesnt even follow the music anymore

00:24:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nothing here needs a triple stack thing u have going on here..
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - i dont even

ok so i feel like you just mapped this extra for the sake of making an extra. honestly i dont think it does the song justice. For starters stay on 1/4's!! look at some patterns and rhythms you see in Milan's diff, it was quite well made.
and yeah there were some cancer patterns in this diff but i wont go into that

anyhow, that's enough from me and good luck !
nyan nyan

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-10-29T15:22:38+00:00

Gaia wrote: 4j9o
[A's Extra]
sorry. I honestly cannot bring myself to mod this diff. it's way too overmapped
really weird rhythms and patterns, like look at 00:44:423 (1,2) - nothing (noticable) in the music requires a 1/6 You are right, fixed.
00:52:059 (5) - 1/6 kickslider here, 00:52:877 (3) - 1/4 kickslider there, and? they are onto the music.
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - doesnt even follow the music anymore It does, I know it doesn't sound like that directly, but please listen to the song in 25% playback rate.

00:24:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nothing here needs a triple stack thing u have going on here.. I honsetly don't know how I didn't notice this, you are right, I guess I left it after I did the first version of the map and it just ended like that, fixed.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - i dont even Please listen to this part in 25% playback rate, you'll understand.

ok so i feel like you just mapped this extra for the sake of making an extra. honestly i dont think it does the song justice. For starters stay on 1/4's!! look at some patterns and rhythms you see in Milan's diff, it was quite well made.
and yeah there were some cancer patterns in this diff but i wont go into that

anyhow, that's enough from me and good luck !
nyan nyan

I have to disagree with you and I will tell you that I did not map this just for the sake of extra, the thing I focused on is following the rhythm on point, which includes 1/6 and 1/4 and sometimes changing the offset with 1/12 ticks.

SPOILER

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368,272,82574,2,0,P|316:224|192:224,1,187.5,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,200,82968,2,0,L|200:112,1,112.5,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,88,83332,1,4,0:0:0:0:
412,184,83514,2,0,L|327:258,1,112.5,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,284,83756,6,0,L|284:328,3,37.5,8|8|8|6,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,243,84059,2,0,P|202:200|149:184,1,112.5,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,180,84332,1,8,0:0:0:0:
60,176,84423,1,4,0:0:0:0:
56,220,84514,2,0,L|24:175,1,56.25,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,60,84696,2,0,L|116:105,1,56.25,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,148,84968,6,0,B|279:131|279:131|199:123,1,112.5,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,48,85332,2,0,B|343:68|343:68|307:148,1,112.5,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,48,85696,2,0,B|358:78|358:78|426:91,1,112.5,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,148,86059,2,0,B|260:96|260:96|217:96,2,112.5,8|4|6,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,271,86787,5,10,0:0:0:0:
432,300,86968,1,10,0:0:0:0:
200,180,87150,5,10,0:0:0:0:
72,144,87331,1,6,0:0:0:0:
74,340,87696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
82,318,87787,1,10,0:0:0:0:
92,296,87877,1,10,0:0:0:0:
99,272,87968,1,10,0:0:0:0:
108,250,88059,1,6,0:0:0:0:

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-10-30T16:43:45+00:00

Gaia wrote: 4j9o
Nyaaaaa >w<
from my queue

[General]
this page says the the vocal is Miku Hatsune but this one has the metadata u have, buuuut its a cancelled album lol.
JUST POINTING IT OUT THERE I'm gonna wait and see what other modders say as well

The spread might be a problem, my map had a jump between hard (3.16) to insane (4.40) and it had problems so try to decrease the gap between urs too I don't think it's such a big problem. I've seen many ranked maps with big diff gaps, especially from Hard to Insane

hitsounds can be improved in pretty much all the diffs except insane i guess I tried my best to improve my hitsounds, by even adding a new hitsound to the Songs folder
[Beginner]
Beginner isn't part of the typical ENHIX spread and since the majority of ur diffs follows that pattern i'd suggest naming this diff Easy Ok. Changed the name to "Easy"
Your spacing is inconsistent!! look at 00:15:332 (1,2,3) - or 00:20:787 (3,1,2) - for example! go back and fix everything with 1.0x DS Yeah, that was an accident. But it's fixed now
00:00:787 (1,2,3) - as a whole it doesnt look very attractive, try widening the curve so that there is no overlap Okay, followed your suggestion
SPOILER

00:13:150 (2,3,1) - this isnt the best flow, and tbh the same shape right after another really isnt my thing. try curving 00:15:332 (1) - the other way and u can also have a nice blanket pattern with 00:16:059 (2) - ! http://puu.sh/cuoMC/35abc3574e.jpg Ok
00:40:423 (2) - consider making it an anchor so it goes off of 00:41:514 (1) - nicely Ok, good idea
00:46:241 (2,1,2) - not the best flow I changed the flow. Hopefully it's better now

its not bad, but i think aesthetically speaking this could be improved much more (more beautiful sliders) example is perhaps 00:48:059 (3,4,5,1) - 00:53:150 (1,2,3,1) - 01:11:332 (2,3,4,1) - Yeah, I'm not at all creative when it comes to beautiful sliders . . .

[Normal]
00:04:423 (2) - minor but i think would look better if it was more to the right Ok, fixed
00:07:696 (3,4) - 00:08:787 (5,1) - try to have the same blanketing distance o3o Well, I'm not really sure what you mean, so I just tried to improve the blankets
00:11:696 (5) - 00:10:968 (3) - can have better flow Ok, I tried to improve the placement of the notes
00:19:696 (4) - blanket looks really rigid s: Yeah, it's really hard to do a blanket there, but I tried to improve it
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4,1) - dunno if u'll like this http://puu.sh/cutSi/426a36c204.jpg No, sorry. I like mine more
00:26:968 (5,1) - nc, remove nc Ok, fixed
00:26:968 (1,2,3,1,1,2) - try this rhythm Followed your suggestion
00:31:332 (1) - for consistent ncing remove this one Fixed
00:31:877 (2,3) - switch places in timeline to match vocals? I already did something else there
00:41:332 (5) - unneccessary note that just increases the difficulty Removed the note
00:47:150 (5) - ^ ^
00:56:241 (1) - im not very sure if this spinner is too short for an easy diff, u might want to check with someone else for this I don't think so, but I will check and see what other modders say

same thing as easy about the sliders i guess s:

[Hard]
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - these jumps are op compared to like 00:08:605 (2,3) - these ones It's just to make the diff harder.
00:16:605 (1) - please nerf I don't know what "nerf" means, but if it means a jump, then no change, because I like the jump there
00:20:059 (6,7) - u wanna overlap like half the slider Ok, followed your suggestion
SPOILER

00:30:968 (3,1) - this flow s: I like the jumps there . . .
00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - 00:45:878 (1,2,3,4,5) - they have the same spacing yet not the same rhythm, and tbh i think 00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - is where u can have larger jumps lol. (something like 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - ?) same thing applies for 00:53:151 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, I distance snapped 00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - 00:53:151 (1,2,3,4) -
00:47:333 (1) - curve this the other way, creates a nice flow variation and flows nicely into the next note too. also avoids sharing the same shape as 00:48:059 (3) - Followed your suggestion
01:11:332 (3,4) - flow tho I don't think it's that bad. It is a Hard after all
01:16:969 (2) - make this a normal slider bow (no curve) it looks much better with the overlapping Okay, good idea
01:28:060 (1) - u didnt nc the last note of all ur other diffs so its best to be consistent Well, I NCed the last note in Easy now. I can't do it in Normal cuz it ends with a slider.
anyhow, that's enough from me and good luck ! Thanks!

nyan nyan

Thanks so much for the mod!

Yuthuil

476 posts

ed April 2014

2014-11-01T15:14:42+00:00

M4M !

Overal: Offset - 780
Easy:

00:06:605 (1) - not symmetrical, red node should be x348 y188
00:06:605 (1,2) - blanket these two properly, 2 begins to edge off the rim of 1.
00:15:332 (1,2) - try to keep blanketing distance the same, this blanket is so much tighter than 00:12:787 (1,2) -
00:17:514 (4,1) - this kind of is weird since this is the only overlap in the whole map
01:25:150 (1,2) - blanket properly

Wow so hard to critisize, a really great diff!

Normal:

AR 4.

00:05:150 (3,4) - try not to stack circles in a high bpm normal, only when its on top of a slider
00:05:877 (5,1) - blanket properly
00:10:605 (2,3) - blanket
00:12:423 (6,1) - I think this'd look better if 1 was blanketing 6, and then the slider after 1 blanketing one.
00:12:787 (1,2) - blanket properly
00:24:423 (1) - fix wave shape
00:32:787 (1,2) - maybe find a way to get these right in the center of the playfield
00:44:423 (1) - make symmetrical, red node is the problem here

hard to find fault with too.

Hard:

AR 7?

00:16:059 (3) - ctrl + g? better flow
00:24:423 (1) - lol fix wave shape
00:34:242 (1) - I think this should be a 1/4 slider
00:42:241 (4) - ctrl + G ?
01:20:787 (1) - move here 01:20:605

again, great diff

Insane:

AR 8?( I may seem a bit crazy...but really I think that's how reading is supposed to be !)

00:24:423 (3,4) - blanket 4?
00:41:514 (1,2) - I think circles here would be more fitting
01:06:241 (1,2) - blanket?
01:18:241 (2,3) - circles instead maybe

Great diff!

Extra:

AR 9?

00:36:059 (3,4,5,6,7) - curve nicely
I think the hitsounds are insanely overpowering, maybe consider turning down?

Good luck, this is a really really nice mapset, I hope it gets ranked soon!

Amasuro

270 posts

ed July 2013

2014-11-02T02:18:34+00:00

Hi. M4M.

[Easy]

00:27:332 - Add a note here? Feels better to me
00:49:150 (3) - Flip this slider around?

SPOILER

[Normal]

00:23:514 - Add a note here?
00:51:332 (2,3) - Fix blanket here
00:53:877 (2,3,4) - How about curving these notes, to fit with the curved slider?

SPOILER
01:14:059 (2,3,4,5) - I find this rhythm hard to follow, imo. I think that there should be a note to hit at 01:14:423 - instead of a slider end. Usually I'd offer a rhythm suggestion, but I had trouble finding a good one. So, if you take this suggestion, you'll have to find a new rhythm yourself.

[Hard]

00:08:605 (2,3,4,5,6) - Remove (2), so it feels like your previous rhythm, then make (5) and (6) into a slider (to match the rhythm)?
00:23:333 (1,2,3,4) - I think you could try to blanket these notes on the curve of (1)
00:36:241 - Add a note here?
00:45:878 (1,2,3,4) - This parts really weird to play. You have the largest jump in the difficulty followed by a significant ds drop. Yes, there is the guitar in the background, but I don't feel like there is something significant enough in the music to do this. I think you should reduce the massive jump, but everything else can stay the same (you'll have to move a lot of notes for this one)
01:23:150 (3,4) - Turn these two notes into a slider?

[Milan-'s Insane]

HP 7?
I dunno if its just me, but this diff has no video
00:24:423 (3,4) - Blanket these two?
01:17:877 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern suggestion:

SPOILER

01:18:605 (3,4) - Fix blanket

[A's Extra]

Nope, no can do. Sorry.

You could get this ranked pretty soon, I'd say. Good luck!

Xinying

559 posts

ed July 2013

2014-11-02T08:35:58+00:00

From my modding queue:

[My Opinion]
-Times looked through 30~40
-Well done , especially insane

[General]
-

[Easy]
➤ 00:05:150 NC?
➤ 00:55:696 Add a note here

[Normal]
Nothing wrong here , good job!

[Hard]
➤ 00:08:605 Remove this note to fit
➤ 00:12:241 I don't think this fits the earlier notes , consider removing 7
➤ 00:49:877 Slider? If not another note, or else it sounds pretty weird to me

[Milan-'s Insane]
➤ For an insane difficulty , consider HP 7~
➤ 00:41:514 Consider changing this to circle
➤ 01:21:696 I would suggest stream here like previous , it just sounds weird to me

[A's Extra]
Can't help with this , sorry.

Sorry if this isn't enough for you , I'm just a beginner at modding and would like to mod more for more experience

This map is pretty good ,Good luck!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-02T11:51:48+00:00

Yuthuil wrote: 1f3x3k
M4M !

Overal: Offset - 780
Easy:

00:06:605 (1) - not symmetrical, red node should be x348 y188 Okay, fixed
00:06:605 (1,2) - blanket these two properly, 2 begins to edge off the rim of 1. Okay, tried my best to improve it
00:15:332 (1,2) - try to keep blanketing distance the same, this blanket is so much tighter than 00:12:787 (1,2) - Yeah, fixed it
00:17:514 (4,1) - this kind of is weird since this is the only overlap in the whole map Yeah, but I don't think it's such a big problem. but I will also see what other modders say
01:25:150 (1,2) - blanket properly The blanket looks fine to me . . .

Wow so hard to critisize, a really great diff! Thanks!

Normal:

AR 4. Uhm, no change. I think 5 is just fine

00:05:150 (3,4) - try not to stack circles in a high bpm normal, only when its on top of a slider No change for now. I will wait and see what other modders say
00:05:877 (5,1) - blanket properly Okay, tried my best to improve it
00:10:605 (2,3) - blanket It is blanketed, so I tried to improve it a bit
00:12:423 (6,1) - I think this'd look better if 1 was blanketing 6, and then the slider after 1 blanketing one. Good idea. Fixed
00:12:787 (1,2) - blanket properly Ok
00:24:423 (1) - fix wave shape Looks fine to me
00:32:787 (1,2) - maybe find a way to get these right in the center of the playfield I don't think it's that necessary to do it
00:44:423 (1) - make symmetrical, red node is the problem here Tried to improve it a bit

hard to find fault with too.

Hard:

AR 7? No, I'm okay with my difficulty settings at the moment

00:16:059 (3) - ctrl + g? better flow No, then it will mess up the next flow pattern
00:24:423 (1) - lol fix wave shape Looks fine to me
00:34:242 (1) - I think this should be a 1/4 slider No, it doesn't follow the beat that well. I like what I have now more
00:42:241 (4) - ctrl + G ? No, will mess up the next flow pattern
01:20:787 (1) - move here 01:20:605 Ok

again, great diff Thank you!

Good luck, this is a really really nice mapset, I hope it gets ranked soon!

Thanks so much for the mod!

DraQeu

121 posts

ed May 2014

2014-11-02T11:59:24+00:00

From my mod queue

yay Black Rock Shooter

[A's Extra]

01:14:787 (5,6,1,1,1) - Reduce the volume of these, the hit sounds sound way too overwhelming imo

[Milan-'s Insane]

Rip video?
For the rest nice diff

[Hard]

01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - There could be some more spacing here imo

[Normal]

00:05:150 (3,4) - Would avoid stacks in normal
00:47:877 (2) - Nazi x:208 y:72

[Easy]

00:18:605 (1,2) - You should flip these slider, flows better imo

Have this star just coz of a fun and good Black Rock Shooter map, good luck

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-02T14:45:37+00:00

Amasuro wrote: 2pj2r
Hi. M4M.

[Easy]

00:27:332 - Add a note here? Feels better to me Ok, added a hitcircle

00:49:150 (3) - Flip this slider around? No change. I like it better as it is now

SPOILER

[Normal]

00:23:514 - Add a note here? No, I don't like the rhythm then

00:51:332 (2,3) - Fix blanket here Ok, tried to improve it

00:53:877 (2,3,4) - How about curving these notes, to fit with the curved slider? Yeah, good idea. Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

01:14:059 (2,3,4,5) - I find this rhythm hard to follow, imo. I think that there should be a note to hit at 01:14:423 - instead of a slider end. Usually I'd offer a rhythm suggestion, but I had trouble finding a good one. So, if you take this suggestion, you'll have to find a new rhythm yourself. Fixed the rhythm. I think it's better now

[Hard]

00:08:605 (2,3,4,5,6) - Remove (2), so it feels like your previous rhythm, then make (5) and (6) into a slider (to match the rhythm)?Removed the hitcircle but I'm not going to change the (5) and (6) into a slider

00:23:333 (1,2,3,4) - I think you could try to blanket these notes on the curve of (1) Good idea. Fixed

00:36:241 - Add a note here? Ok

00:45:878 (1,2,3,4) - This parts really weird to play. You have the largest jump in the difficulty followed by a significant ds drop. Yes, there is the guitar in the background, but I don't feel like there is something significant enough in the music to do this. I think you should reduce the massive jump, but everything else can stay the same (you'll have to move a lot of notes for this one) Ok, reduced the jump

01:23:150 (3,4) - Turn these two notes into a slider? yeah, fixed

You could get this ranked pretty soon, I'd say. Good luck! Thanks!

Thank you for the helpful mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-02T14:52:39+00:00

Chocox wrote: 3e1z6c
From my modding queue:

[My Opinion]
-Times looked through 30~40
-Well done , especially insane

[General]
-

[Easy]
➤ 00:05:150 NC? Ok, fixed
➤ 00:55:696 Add a note here ok, good idea

[Normal]
Nothing wrong here , good job! Thanks!

[Hard]
➤ 00:08:605 Remove this note to fit Yeah, removed
➤ 00:12:241 I don't think this fits the earlier notes , consider removing 7 Good suggestion. Fixed
➤ 00:49:877 Slider? If not another note, or else it sounds pretty weird to me Good idea. Followed your suggestion
Sorry if this isn't enough for you , I'm just a beginner at modding and would like to mod more for more experience This map is pretty good ,Good luck! Your mod was still very helpful.

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-02T17:33:07+00:00

DraQeu wrote: 27494a

From my mod queue

yay Black Rock Shooter

[Hard]

01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - There could be some more spacing here imo Okay, spaced them a bit more

[Normal]

00:05:150 (3,4) - Would avoid stacks in normal Ok, removed the stack
00:47:877 (2) - Nazi x:208 y:72 Fixed

[Easy]

00:18:605 (1,2) - You should flip these slider, flows better imo I'm okay with how it is now

Have this star just coz of a fun and good Black Rock Shooter map, good luck Thanks!

Thank you for the star and the mod!

Knotts

712 posts

ed May 2013

2014-11-04T00:37:08+00:00

Late mod, I'm sorry Dx

General

~~I don't think you need "Vocaloid2" in the tags. I don't really know what that is so I could be wrong.~~

A's Extra

I've never seen anyone use the drum sampleset for an entire song. I think you should just hitsound like everyone else did.
00:03:514 - Sounds weird that you skipped over this but instead mapped 00:03:423 (7,8) where there's no sound.
00:04:059 (2) - It's probably fine to end this on the blue tick instead of whatever it's on now.
00:04:423 - Why isn't there anything here? You could put a 1/2 slider
00:11:211 (3) - This SV change doesn't make any sense to me but if you decide to keep put a NC
00:13:332 (2,3) - I think this rhythm sounds better because it follows the vocals more and doesn't leave a 1/2 pause
00:19:150 (1) - This SV change doesn't make any sense to me either. There's nothing to emphasize here
00:29:029 (5,7) - (5) should be deleted tbh, there's nothing in the music for it. I believe that (7) could be placed on the blue tick.

This needs a lot of fixing up tbh. You should talk this over with the other mappers and fixed your weird snapped sliders and what not because everyone else seemed to not have this problem.

Milan-'s Insane

00:09:514 (1) - finish
00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Space 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) a little to the right and then reblanket 00:35:332 (1,2,3). This way 00:35:332 (1,2,3) doesn't overlap 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5)
00:51:514 (2,1,2,3) - Moving from (2) to the triplet has awkward flow, plus on top of that, the triplet isn't stacked on 00:50:605 (3,3) so it's even harder to play than it should be
01:26:787 (1,2,3,4,1) - Maybe a more dramatic jump for the ending :3

Hard

00:08:059 (1) - Pretty low spacing, could cause problems reading
00:26:060 (4,5,6) - Why isn't this 1.1x DS like 00:24:423 (1,2,3) ?
01:20:605 (1) - Pretty awkward spot for a spinner. I'd just map the music
Too many weird finishes. I'd look at Milan-'s difficulty and remove some of the finishes that don't fit.

Good luck

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-11-04T07:50:34+00:00

Yuthuil wrote: 1f3x3k
Extra:

AR 9? Is there a problem with 9.2?

00:36:059 (3,4,5,6,7) - curve nicely Done
I think the hitsounds are insanely overpowering, maybe consider turning down? Lowered over-all hitsound on diff.

Good luck, this is a really really nice mapset, I hope it gets ranked soon!

Knotts wrote: 4n5a4m
Late mod, I'm sorry Dx

A's Extra

I've never seen anyone use the drum sampleset for an entire song. I think you should just hitsound like everyone else did. What's the exact problem with that? It is like saying a song shouldn't have beats for the entire of it.

00:03:514 - Sounds weird that you skipped over this but instead mapped 00:03:423 (7,8) where there's no sound. I skip it on purpose, it doesn't have a big impact but it changes the sound, so they make up for that.

00:04:059 (2) - It's probably fine to end this on the blue tick instead of whatever it's on now. It lands on a 1/12 tick, please try to listen to this part at 25% playback rate, I changed it to end there because it just didn't sound right.

00:04:423 - Why isn't there anything here? You could put a 1/2 slider You probably deleted it, I have it infront of my face.

00:11:211 (3) - This SV change doesn't make any sense to me but if you decide to keep put a NC Fixed NC in all of that part according to SV changes.

00:13:332 (2,3) - I think this rhythm sounds better because it follows the vocals more and doesn't leave a 1/2 pause Done

00:19:150 (1) - This SV change doesn't make any sense to me either. There's nothing to emphasize here I wanted to emphasize the vocals here and the change of sound, the first and second slider emphasize the sound but it changes to the vocal.

00:29:029 (5,7) - (5) should be deleted tbh, there's nothing in the music for it. I believe that (7) could be placed on the blue tick. I think it is just fine, if you think I am wrong again, please listen to this part at 25% playback rate, you'll understand.

This needs a lot of fixing up tbh. You should talk this over with the other mappers and fixed your weird snapped sliders and what not because everyone else seemed to not have this problem. I disagree, I wanted to follow the irregular beats and it is my style, why is it a problem? It plays great and if you listen to the song carefully you'll see that I landed right.

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.7
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 5.199997

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,892,"Black Rock Shooter - Opening HD.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2014-11-06T06:44:46+00:00

M o k o r i

M o k o r i wrote: 6h1018
[Milan-'s Insane]
・00:05:514 (3) - make it 1/2 slider, and separate from next slider. This part uses 1/4 rhythm tho
・00:15:877 (4,5,6) - how about copy 00:15:332 (1,2,3) - and turn it? i don't see problem with mine owo
・00:17:514 (5) - make NC I like following measures and be constant with combos, so i wont change these ;(
・00:18:240 (1) - remove NC
・00:18:605 (2) - make NC
・00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - how about place like this?
SPOILER

na i like the back and forward of my version

good luck!

Gaia

Gaia wrote: 4j9o
[Milan-'s Insane]
replay here cuz i know Milan likes to watch my bad testplays LOL i luv u <3

00:05:877 (4) - found this weird to play (fix the flow?) It may be weird cuz the directions changes but they are on the music so im fine with it
00:06:605 (1) - ^ try this shape If i follow your shape, would be weird to me ;-;
00:29:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - the (2) has really bad flow cuz the slider points down, u can still have the jumps but i did something different (although i liked to use dropoff there ;(
00:40:423 (2,3,4,5) - u had that nc spam earlier with the same pattern so u should be consistent (tbh the nc spam is unneccessary to me) i don't even know why i had nc spam xD
00:53:696 (2,3,4) - rather have the manual stack towards the left more for better flow ok

Yuthuil

Yuthuil wrote: 1f3x3k
Insane:

AR 8?( I may seem a bit crazy...but really I think that's how reading is supposed to be !) wut how do u even play this with ar8 xD it has a lot of directions changes and overlap that ar8 cant read properly

00:24:423 (3,4) - blanket 4?na it's fine as it is
00:41:514 (1,2) - I think circles here would be more fitting uh i use circles on the start of new measures only when there's a good reason.. i like sliders more :3
01:06:241 (1,2) - blanket? it's fine already
01:18:241 (2,3) - circles instead maybe sliders follow vocals here

Great diff!

Good luck, this is a really really nice mapset, I hope it gets ranked soon!

Amasuro

Amasuro wrote: 2pj2r
[Milan-'s Insane]

HP 7? it is 6 for the spreed and there are enough streams for hp 6 but maybe i can use 6.5 or something, dunno yet

I dunno if its just me, but this diff has no video what. this map has video? o.o lol

00:24:423 (3,4) - Blanket these two?na it's fine

01:17:877 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern suggestion: i like mine more ;w;.. Oval flow all day!

01:18:605 (3,4) - Fix blanket it's fine D:

Chocox

Chocox wrote: 3e1z6c
[Milan-'s Insane]
➤ For an insane difficulty , consider HP 7~ it is 6 for the spreed and there are enough streams for hp 6 but maybe i can use 6.5 or something, dunno yet
➤ 00:41:514 Consider changing this to circle i used sliders cuz the vocals
➤ 01:21:696 I would suggest stream here like previous , it just sounds weird to me these doesn't even deseve a stream imo, i used 1/4 slider of that

DraQeu

DraQeu wrote: 27494a
[Milan-'s Insane]

Rip video? Ops
For the rest nice diff

Knotts

Knotts wrote: 4n5a4m

Milan-'s Insane

00:09:514 (1) - finish ok

00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Space 00:34:787 (1,2,3,4,5) a little to the right and then reblanket 00:35:332 (1,2,3). This way 00:35:332 (1,2,3) doesn't overlap 00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) these arent overlapped on game...(ar9 o/)

00:51:514 (2,1,2,3) - Moving from (2) to the triplet has awkward flow, plus on top of that, the triplet isn't stacked on 00:50:605 (3,3) so it's even harder to play than it should be I didn't get it at all, the notes you link are like 1 measure apart.. they play fine to me and everyone who test it

01:26:787 (1,2,3,4,1) - Maybe a more dramatic jump for the ending :3 maybe i can move the last note to somewhere far.. but ill keep it atm as the stack fits so nice imo

mappppp

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@nya : can u add video to my diff?xD i don't know what offset for it you're using, easy and normal has like 1100 and hard has like 800 or something like that, use the same offset for all the diffs
Also, i did a quick look to your diffs, they are now much better, specially Easy. But, you can (and should) make your Normal a bit harder using more 1/2 rhythms (red ticks). you use them on very few places that are fine, but others would make your normal much better, look to others normals and you'll see what im saying. you can use the star rating system to guide yourself. Aim for a 2.1 normal, so the spreed would be much better [1.3 - 2.1(or something similar) - 3 - 4.4 - 5]. Also, your Hard can be a bit harder too, cuz your kiai is actually too easy, in comparation with the rest of your map imo. for example:

01:01:696 - add note,
01:06:242 (1,2,3) - this can be different, maybe more 1/2 slider instead? cuz sounds like 01:06:423 - and 01:07:150 - are very noticable, and makes 01:04:787 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - harder
01:12:060 (4,5,6) - same, adding that (6) has more vocals on the middle
01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - 01:09:514 (5,6,7) - 01:14:969 (1,2,3,4) - can be harder as they dont follow vocals as 00:42:969 (1,2,3,4) - . maybe add some circles on those red ticks
Also, your triplets seem to be random sometimes, for instance: you used triplet here> 00:59:514 (2,3) - but no where else on the kiai ><. 01:01:059 - this can be triplet too, but it's up to you to place it or not.. maybe think on a pattern for them
01:18:241 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this is really nice for a hard imo.
Also, your combos are very inconsistent >< for instance, from 00:58:968 - to 01:07:696 - you used NC every measure, so why 01:08:968 (4) - 01:12:060 (4) - 01:23:696 (5) - aren't nc too? . I personally use NC every measure cuz it makes more sense (and it's easier xd). Check them carefully on ALL the diffs (on easy and normal, every 2 measures is recommendable, normal had like 1 or 2 problem i think, maybe they are on purpuse dunno)

you can PM me if you have doubts or something if you want, or ask someone else with more experience dunno, up to you. (btw, dont KD this post xD i have already kudo on this map)

@Avishay: i don't want to look like an asshole or something but... holy t*ts use 1/4 snapping, songs with 1/12 are very few. offset is a bit off that's why you may think it's 1/12 or 1/6 or something. if you don't believe on normal s, ask about it to a bat or someone else, since a lot of mods have tell you about it.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-11-06T09:06:06+00:00

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k
@Avishay: i don't want to look like an asshole or something but... holy t*ts use 1/4 snapping, songs with 1/12 are very few. offset is a bit off that's why you may think it's 1/12 or 1/6 or something. if you don't believe on normal s, ask about it to a bat or someone else, since a lot of mods have tell you about it.

Just beacuse it is irregular doesn't mean I am wrong :\ The offset is just fine, it is just that he changes mid song and I use 1/12 ticks to place the circles on the timing.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-06T15:21:07+00:00

Knotts wrote: 4n5a4m
Late mod, I'm sorry Dx

Hard

00:08:059 (1) - Pretty low spacing, could cause problems reading I stacked 00:08:059 (1) - on 00:07:696 (4) -

00:26:060 (4,5,6) - Why isn't this 1.1x DS like 00:24:423 (1,2,3) ? My bad. Fixed

01:20:605 (1) - Pretty awkward spot for a spinner. I'd just map the music Removed the spinner and mapped that part

Too many weird finishes. I'd look at Milan-'s difficulty and remove some of the finishes that don't fit. replaced many of those finishes with drum sounds

Good luck

Thanks for your mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-06T16:09:47+00:00

Milan- wrote: 3y4v2k
@nya : can u add video to my diff?xD i don't know what offset for it you're using, easy and normal has like 1100 and hard has like 800 or something like that, use the same offset for all the diffs
Also, i did a quick look to your diffs, they are now much better, specially Easy. But, you can (and should) make your Normal a bit harder using more 1/2 rhythms (red ticks). you use them on very few places that are fine, but others would make your normal much better, look to others normals and you'll see what im saying. you can use the star rating system to guide yourself. Aim for a 2.1 normal, so the spreed would be much better [1.3 - 2.1(or something similar) - 3 - 4.4 - 5]. Also, your Hard can be a bit harder too, cuz your kiai is actually too easy, in comparation with the rest of your map imo. for example:

01:01:696 - add note, Ok

01:06:242 (1,2,3) - this can be different, maybe more 1/2 slider instead? cuz sounds like 01:06:423 - and 01:07:150 - are very noticable, and makes 01:04:787 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - harder I still think my sliders fit better there . . .

01:12:060 (4,5,6) - same, adding that (6) has more vocals on the middle ^

01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - 01:09:514 (5,6,7) - 01:14:969 (1,2,3,4) - can be harder as they dont follow vocals as 00:42:969 (1,2,3,4) - . maybe add some circles on those red ticks I made changes there where you had suggested. A mixture of sliders and circles

Also, your triplets seem to be random sometimes, for instance: you used triplet here> 00:59:514 (2,3) - but no where else on the kiai ><. 01:01:059 - this can be triplet too, but it's up to you to place it or not.. maybe think on a pattern for them Well, I placed another triplet here: 01:05:333 (2,3,4) -

01:18:241 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this is really nice for a hard imo.

Also, your combos are very inconsistent >< for instance, from 00:58:968 - to 01:07:696 - you used NC every measure, so why 01:08:968 (4) - 01:12:060 (4) - 01:23:696 (5) - aren't nc too? . I personally use NC every measure cuz it makes more sense (and it's easier xd). Check them carefully on ALL the diffs (on easy and normal, every 2 measures is recommendable, normal had like 1 or 2 problem i think, maybe they are on purpuse dunno) I placed the NC's where you had suggested

you can PM me if you have doubts or something if you want, or ask someone else with more experience dunno, up to you. (btw, dont KD this post xD i have already kudo on this map)

I added the video and fixed the offset in all the diffs, so you can just update. About the normal, I think it's hard enough, but I will see what other modders suggest as well and I tried to make my Hard diff a bit harder.
Thanks for your help with my diffs. I really appreciate it.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-06T16:10:52+00:00

UPDATED!

Avishay: I changed your video's offset so you can just update to latest version.

emilia

893 posts

ed October 2012

2014-11-08T04:14:55+00:00

Eyy from M4M queue here: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/s/220239

[Easy]

00:00:787 (1,2) - I find the hitsounds here unnecessary
00:06:605 (1,2) - The blanket here is kinda off
00:09:514 (1,2,3) - Try having a regular triangle
00:12:787 (1,2) - Blanket
00:40:423 (2,1) - Why not make these 2 notes the same, the 2nd just enlarged?

Generally good Easy, just minor issues and some flow problems. Really easy to mod

[Normal]
00:04:423 (2,3,4,5) - Instead of this, why not shift 4 lower?
01:27:696 (2) - Will suggest ending with 2 hitcircles, to make it feel more epic

I like your Normal, really easy to mod, practically no problems as well

[Hard]
00:00:787 (1,2,3) - Try having something more circular
00:05:151 (1,2,3,4) - Honestly a perfect circle here will be good
00:06:605 (1,2,3,4) - Will prefer the triangle pattern to be below instead since the slider leads up
If accept^ 00:08:059 (1) - Shift this away so flow still works
00:08:787 (2,3,4,5) - Suggest greater distance since the triangle before had a greater distance
00:54:605 (1,2,3) - Try a 120deg rotation triangle pattern here
01:01:878 (1,2,3) - ^

Wow, surprisingly nothing much to mod for Hard as well. Nice hard, and nice flow as well

[Milan-'s Insane]
I can't find anything to mod, so I'll describe your map in general.

Some boring patterns (overly repetitive), some unnecessary streams and some uneven shapes.

Patterns like:
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - Seems rather boring
00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - ^

Streams like:
00:17:514 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Try having 3stream then 5stream instead of 3stream 1tap 3stream
00:23:150 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Doesn't really fit
00:39:332 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Slow bit shouldn't have stuff like that
Etc. You know what to look out for

Uneven shapes like:
00:09:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try have a better circle
00:12:787 (2,3,4) - Try a 120 deg triangle pattern
00:15:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try a hexagon/pentagon
00:16:787 (1,2,3,4) - Try pentagon (1 missing point)
00:19:696 (1,2,3,4) - Try hexagon (2 missing points)
00:30:423 (2,3,4) - Triangle
Etc. You know what to look out for

Although I say this, your map is very well-structured and very well made on a whole. Nice playable Insane

[A's Extra]
I will highly suggest changing the diff name to Aextra (Looks REALLY cool IMO )
00:03:332 (6,7,8,9,1) - Doesn't really fit rhythm
00:08:968 (3,4,5) - Try have this blanket 00:08:423 (2) -
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Too close to each other
00:15:696 (2,3,5,6) - Shouldn't they have the same pattern?
00:16:423 (6,7) - Too close. Also suggest split 7 into 2 hitcircles, so 2nd hitcircle can be part of the next combo
00:18:241 (1,1) - Try a jump here
00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Try more structured jumps here
00:22:423 (2,3) - Try a jump here
00:24:423 (1,2,3,4,1) - Don't get how the flow here works, try 1,3,2,4,1
00:34:241 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Too hard to follow, even for some experienced players
01:10:756 (1) - This note isn't snapped??????

You have a lot of weird rhythms, weird sliders and weirdly spaced streams for no reason in your map. Don't make your map deliberately like an Extra for the sake of it, it still has to comply with the basic needs of mapping. Try having a better rhythm, more consistent jumps, useful weird sliders and space your streams better. I don't really like this Extra, sorry

Done with mod, I like your ENHI spread, I just don't particularly like your Extra

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-11-08T11:07:19+00:00

Estellia- wrote: 4r513j
[A's Extra]
[*]I will highly suggest changing the diff name to Aextra (Looks REALLY cool IMO ) But it sounds bad ;;
[*]00:03:332 (6,7,8,9,1) - Doesn't really fit rhythm I explained already in a previous mod as for why I did that.
[*]00:08:968 (3,4,5) - Try have this blanket 00:08:423 (2) - V
[*]00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Too close to each other I think it is fine, the NC should hint that the spacing changes.
[*]00:15:696 (2,3,5,6) - Shouldn't they have the same pattern? I didn't really understand what did you mean by that, but I think I got it.
[*]00:16:423 (6,7) - Too close. Also suggest split 7 into 2 hitcircles, so 2nd hitcircle can be part of the next combo Played around with this part and I think it is nicer here
[*]00:18:241 (1,1) - Try a jump here V
[*]00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Try more structured jumps here I changed the overall structure a bit.
[*]00:22:423 (2,3) - Try a jump here V
[*]00:24:423 (1,2,3,4,1) - Don't get how the flow here works, try 1,3,2,4,1 V
[*]00:34:241 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Too hard to follow, even for some experienced players I have to disagree, it plays just fine.
[*]01:10:756 (1) - This note isn't snapped?????? The offset changes in this part, so I used 1/12 ticks to fix that.

You have a lot of weird rhythms, weird sliders and weirdly spaced streams for no reason in your map. Don't make your map deliberately like an Extra for the sake of it, it still has to comply with the basic needs of mapping. Try having a better rhythm, more consistent jumps, useful weird sliders and space your streams better. I don't really like this Extra, sorry [/list][/notice]

Done with mod, I like your ENHI spread, I just don't particularly like your Extra

It is fine, I'm not offended, I like to follow the rhythm even if it sounds weird and irregular, that's my style.

SPOILER

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-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-08T19:31:45+00:00

Estellia- wrote: 4r513j
Eyy from M4M queue here: https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/s/220239
[notice][list]
[Easy]
[*]00:00:787 (1,2) - I find the hitsounds here unnecessary I just removed 00:02:241 (2) - hitsound
[*]00:06:605 (1,2) - The blanket here is kinda off Tried my best to fix it
[*]00:09:514 (1,2,3) - Try having a regular triangle Ok, tried to improve it
[*]00:12:787 (1,2) - Blanket Tried to improve it
[*]00:40:423 (2,1) - Why not make these 2 notes the same, the 2nd just enlarged? No, sorry. I like my shape better.

Generally good Easy, just minor issues and some flow problems. Really easy to mod Thanks!

[Normal]
[*]00:04:423 (2,3,4,5) - Instead of this, why not shift 4 lower? Followed your suggestion

[*]01:27:696 (2) - Will suggest ending with 2 hitcircles, to make it feel more epic Okay, good idea.

I like your Normal, really easy to mod, practically no problems as well Thanks!

[Hard]
[*]00:00:787 (1,2,3) - Try having something more circular Nah, I'm happy with how it is now
[*]00:05:151 (1,2,3,4) - Honestly a perfect circle here will be good I like the paralelogram shape better
[*]00:06:605 (1,2,3,4) - Will prefer the triangle pattern to be below instead since the slider leads up Good suggestion, but I like the jump there. Just to make it a bit more interesting

[*]If accept^ 00:08:059 (1) - Shift this away so flow still works
[*]00:08:787 (2,3,4,5) - Suggest greater distance since the triangle before had a greater distance Okay, followed your suggestion
[*]00:54:605 (1,2,3) - Try a 120deg rotation triangle pattern here Sorry, like my pattern better

[*]01:01:878 (1,2,3) - ^ ^

Wow, surprisingly nothing much to mod for Hard as well. Nice hard, and nice flow as well Thanks again!

Done with mod, I like your ENHI spread, I just don't particularly like your Extra

Thanks so much for the mod!

bibilicu

3,578 posts

ed October 2013

2014-11-08T20:06:25+00:00

Hi ! Sorry for late ! I was ill today !

Ok, my mod:

~Easy~

00:17:187- Add a note

00:32:398- Add

00:58:512- Remove the note and add a slider and NC

~Normal~

No problems ! Good Job !

~Hard~
00:02:144- Add a note
I hope it will be very helpful !!!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-11-11T12:00:24+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote: 2a4e2c
Hi ! Sorry for late ! I was ill today !

Ok, my mod:

~Easy~

00:17:187- Add a note No, I think it will then be too hard for an Easy diff

00:32:398- Add Good idea. Added the note

00:58:512- Remove the note and add a slider and NC I'm not that sure what you mean, but I did make a change

~Normal~

No problems ! Good Job ! Thanks!

~Hard~
00:02:144- Add a note Ok
I hope it will be very helpful !!!

Thanks for the mod!

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

ed June 2013

2014-11-12T09:53:12+00:00

Hello NM here

[Extra]
some pattern have 1/6 and 1/12 beat snap, its very bad idea i think, and its not really fit in the song, i think just use 1/4 beat snap for this song. Very important
00:01:514 (4) - move to x265 y267 (fix micro distance)
00:03:332 (6,7,8,9) - why this pattern in intro?, its really didnt necessary thing. if you still want to use this pattern, just change it to slider (polarize in here very low). and some strong NC objects in 00:03:696 (9) -
00:05:150 (1,1,1) - great work, this is slider i like. but can you curve 00:05:514 (1) - a little? (increase visual objects looks)
00:09:150 (5) - most i didnt really dont understand this note is why a 1/6 beat in here? just use 1/2 slider
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - better do stream in here
00:24:786 (3) - delete clap
00:27:332 (2) - add some hitsound here
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - not really interested i think, 1/6 beat is really bad
Once again, its really matter you use 1/6 and 1/12 beats in this 1/4 map?

01:10:756 (1) - this better put in 01:10:605 -
01:16:059 (1,1) - this overlap + short distance decrease flow!
01:22:241 - clickable object should be in here
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g this
the only thing i decide in this map is Extra is a diff Harder than insane and have complex pattern in there (almost have same pattern/rhythm but have Faster SV and longer distance snap than insane) just want to ask. why you put slider tail at Big white line?, its very embarassing cause its place who have strong clickable objects! please fix this thing before somebody complaining about this one. and dont forget to fix that beat snap too (:

[Insane]
00:14:605 (6,7) - i think better like this http://puu.sh/cNzo4/921d840007.jpg (00:14:968 (7) - have distance >Next: 2.30x Prev: 2.30x)
00:20:240 (4,5,6) - move to x126 y141 (fix Overlap + fix distance)
00:35:332 (1,2,3) - do curve in this circles ex: http://puu.sh/cNzuP/8e0904972a.jpg
00:41:150 (6,7,8,1) - continue stream this pls
yea i think some notes looks good

sorry but it was only my mod, the rest of your diff is good i think. just keep it!
sorry for short mod
bye

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-11-12T20:06:37+00:00

OK OSU DDOS PROTECTOR JUST DELETED MY COMMENT, THEREFORE:

I decided to just ignore some of the 1/6 and 1/12 ticks because people whine on it too much, however I didn't change all of them:

SPOILER

osu file format v13

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Zhu Yuan

2,439 posts

ed July 2012

2014-11-15T10:48:39+00:00

General

Disable Widescreen in A's Extra, you don't have SB in any diff.
Would be a nice if you add more whistles in some parts, also claps (especially at kiai). Feel free to poke me in-game if you need more help with hitsounds

Easy

00:10:241 (2) - I'd prefer if you form something like a triangle moving this a bit. Example. Actually this is almost touching (4), which doesn't look really well, I also think my suggestion will improve the flow. If you do my example you don't need to fix anything about DS, it's ok.
00:21:877 (2,3,4) - What about this? For a better "road", because (2)'s end and (4)'s head are a bit below.
01:14:968 (1) - Unnecessary NC, please continue adding NCs only each two stanzas and make it consistent.

Normal

00:35:332 (5) - *nazi - move this 1 grid for a better blanket with (1).
00:54:605 (4,1) - Since a new vocal (I mean, that "aaah", idk) starts at 00:56:059 - I'd remove the repeat and start spinner there. Also, in this way spinner won't be too near of slider, which is kinda stressful for Easy / Normal (beginner, in general) players.
00:58:968 (1,2,3) - Try to move (1) a bit above, making a blanket with (2) if it's possible. Shouldn't be a big problem but (1) is almost overlapping (3) ><
01:19:332 (1) - Maybe add a whistle? Fits good imo.

Hard

00:47:878 (2) - Maybe this? Same as reason as I said above, it's still a triangle pattern so it looks even a bit better.
01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - You have many patterns like this one which have inconsistent DS without any reason, please fix this stuff.
01:21:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Reduce spacing or try something different, this doesn't fit in a Hard diff. I mean, triples or some streams are ok, but with little spacing, this is almost Insane.
01:23:696 (1) - This can be improved. Like this.
01:27:333 (4,1) - Fix DS. (1) should be a bit further.

Milan-'s Insane

00:02:787 (5,6,7) - This is just a little suggestion, but if you add Ctrl+G looks good and makes a little jump until (8), idk.
00:47:877 (2,3,4) - Stack this properly, there's no need to change spacing although you changed it a bit. ><
01:06:787 (2) - Move this a bit, nearer of (1). Making with 01:06:241 (1,2,3,4) - like a square.
Tested / played it and there's no much to improve for me, gj!

A's Extra

I prefer OD:8 for an Extra, OD:7/7,5 fits better with an Insane.
Please, avoid big circles here. CS:4 or even 4,5 is good enough for the hardest diff in a mapset.
00:03:696 (8,1) - Swap NC.
00:05:877 (1) - I'm not sure if this is unrankeable because you don't see the repeat, I had experience with this type of pattern and I had to fix it. :/ I'd ask a BAT to be sure about this.
00:07:696 (4,5,6) - Even if you are making an Extra, this is really hard to read and click... Something like this is kinda acceptable for me, or whatever, I highly suggest doing something different.
00:09:514 (6,1) - Swap NC, please consider adding NC on stanza, in all cases.
Well, I'm bad at modding Extras, I've tried to point out most important things, this diff needs more work imo.

Good luck~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-11-18T13:54:29+00:00

Inyuschan wrote: 27712
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A's Extra

I prefer OD:8 for an Extra, OD:7/7,5 fits better with an Insane. Since I've changed a lot of 1/6 to 1/4 it should be fine.

Please, avoid big circles here. CS:4 or even 4,5 is good enough for the hardest diff in a mapset. I see no problem..

00:03:696 (8,1) - Swap NC. V

00:05:877 (1) - I'm not sure if this is unrankeable because you don't see the repeat, I had experience with this type of pattern and I had to fix it. :/ I'd ask a BAT to be sure about this. If a BAT will say so, I will change it.

00:07:696 (4,5,6) - Even if you are making an Extra, this is really hard to read and click... Something like this is kinda acceptable for me, or whatever, I highly suggest doing something different. That's pretty easy to read..

00:09:514 (6,1) - Swap NC, please consider adding NC on stanza, in all cases. V

Good luck~

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302,271,86787,5,10,0:0:0:0:
432,300,86968,1,10,0:0:0:0:
200,180,87150,5,10,0:0:0:0:
72,144,87331,1,6,0:0:0:0:
74,340,87696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
82,318,87787,1,10,0:0:0:0:
92,296,87877,1,10,0:0:0:0:
99,272,87968,1,10,0:0:0:0:
108,250,88059,1,6,0:0:0:0:

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-03T08:50:33+00:00

Inyuschan wrote: 27712

General

Disable Widescreen in A's Extra, you don't have SB in any diff. Disabled

Would be a nice if you add more whistles in some parts, also claps (especially at kiai). Feel free to poke me in-game if you need more help with hitsounds I'm okay with how my hitsounds are now. I don't want too many hitsounds.

Easy

00:10:241 (2) - I'd prefer if you form something like a triangle moving this a bit. Example. Actually this is almost touching (4), which doesn't look really well, I also think my suggestion will improve the flow. If you do my example you don't need to fix anything about DS, it's ok. Ok, followed your suggestion

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - What about this? For a better "road", because (2)'s end and (4)'s head are a bit below. Ok, fixed that

01:14:968 (1) - Unnecessary NC, please continue adding NCs only each two stanzas and make it consistent. Removed the NC and removed another NC somewhere else as well

Normal

00:35:332 (5) - *nazi - move this 1 grid for a better blanket with (1). Fixed

00:54:605 (4,1) - Since a new vocal (I mean, that "aaah", idk) starts at 00:56:059 - I'd remove the repeat and start spinner there. Also, in this way spinner won't be too near of slider, which is kinda stressful for Easy / Normal (beginner, in general) players. Good idea. Followed your suggestion

00:58:968 (1,2,3) - Try to move (1) a bit above, making a blanket with (2) if it's possible. Shouldn't be a big problem but (1) is almost overlapping (3) >< Ok, tried to make that blanket, so the (3) is far away from (1) now.

01:19:332 (1) - Maybe add a whistle? Fits good imo. Ok, added the whistle

Hard

00:47:878 (2) - Maybe this? Same as reason as I said above, it's still a triangle pattern so it looks even a bit better. Ok, followed your suggestion

01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - You have many patterns like this one which have inconsistent DS without any reason, please fix this stuff. Ok, I looked at my NC's again and fixed some of them

01:21:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Reduce spacing or try something different, this doesn't fit in a Hard diff. I mean, triples or some streams are ok, but with little spacing, this is almost Insane. Yeah, it may be too hard, so I changed it to a repetitive slider and one short slider.

01:23:696 (1) - This can be improved. Like this. Tried my best to improve it

01:27:333 (4,1) - Fix DS. (1) should be a bit further. The reason for that is that I want that hitcircle right in the middle where the blue star is at the end of the video, so if someone else also complain about it, then I will consider fixing it

Good luck~

Thanks so much for the mod!

Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2014-12-04T01:45:27+00:00

Estellia

Estellia- wrote: 4r513j
[Milan-'s Insane]
I can't find anything to mod, so I'll describe your map in general.

Some boring patterns (overly repetitive), some unnecessary streams and some uneven shapes.

Patterns like:
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - Seems rather boring they are fine
00:32:787 (1,2,3,4) - ^

Streams like:
00:17:514 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Try having 3stream then 5stream instead of 3stream 1tap 3stream yours is overmapped to me
00:23:150 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Doesn't really fit it does
00:39:332 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Slow bit shouldn't have stuff like that it has
Etc. You know what to look out for

Uneven shapes like:
00:09:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try have a better circle shapes are like whatever to me if they change the way the map is played.. so no change for these
00:12:787 (2,3,4) - Try a 120 deg triangle pattern
00:15:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Try a hexagon/pentagon
00:16:787 (1,2,3,4) - Try pentagon (1 missing point)
00:19:696 (1,2,3,4) - Try hexagon (2 missing points)
00:30:423 (2,3,4) - Triangle
Etc. You know what to look out for

Although I say this, your map is very well-structured and very well made on a whole. Nice playable Insane

Fort

Fort wrote: 5l2t5r
[Insane]
00:14:605 (6,7) - i think better like this http://puu.sh/cNzo4/921d840007.jpg (00:14:968 (7) - have distance >Next: 2.30x Prev: 2.30x) mmine is better
00:20:240 (4,5,6) - move to x126 y141 (fix Overlap + fix distance) wat overlap (?
00:35:332 (1,2,3) - do curve in this circles ex: http://puu.sh/cNzuP/8e0904972a.jpg maybe but not atm ><
00:41:150 (6,7,8,1) - continue stream this pls triple is enough on my ears

Inyuschan

Inyuschan wrote: 27712

Milan-'s Insane

00:02:787 (5,6,7) - This is just a little suggestion, but if you add Ctrl+G looks good and makes a little jump until (8), idk. na it plays just fine

00:47:877 (2,3,4) - Stack this properly, there's no need to change spacing although you changed it a bit. >< doesnt even matter imo lol

01:06:787 (2) - Move this a bit, nearer of (1). Making with 01:06:241 (1,2,3,4) - like a square. i didn't get it tbh.. its fine to me anyways

Tested / played it and there's no much to improve for me, gj!

well i didn't change anything, but thanks

it's alive, nya ;o

scanter

2,390 posts

ed July 2012

2014-12-06T17:02:55+00:00

Hi o3o/ ~~present for you~~

Easy

if possible, what about add clap sounds on more? now isn't much fun for play.
00:03:696 (3) - NC here for consistency, not 00:05:150 (1) here.
00:27:332 (3) - same.
00:54:605 (1) - NC not here, but 00:56:059 (3) here.
00:58:968 - finish.
01:05:150 (4) - lol

Normal

Same as Easy.
00:37:696 (4) - just 1 circle 00:37:877 here much better for play imo.
01:27:332 - Finish?
01:27:696 - Same.

Hard

Same as Easy.
AR 7.5 seems fine. Hard diff isn't hard so many, so 7.5 is the best visible for play.
00:13:878 (2) - blanket?
00:27:696 (3) - Ctrl + C,V at 00:28:423 this point? black 1 is curved quite a bit.
00:56:059 (1) - as the same. blanket?
01:15:332 (2,3,4,5) - rhythm is a little bit awkward. what about this?

SPOILER
01:20:605 (1) - slightly overlapped with sky blue 5
01:21:696 (1,2) - it is quite a bit confusing pattern. posticous 1/4 short slider seems to hard for play. ~~actually, I had 100 here~~

Milian-'s Insane

00:17:604 (6) - Sampleset normal here? it will become more dope beat lol.
00:29:240 (4) - ^ same
00:33:150 (2,4) - what about doing each Ctrl + G? it will become more funny :>.
00:47:332 - you missed finish here. is it intended one?
00:56:787 (6) - add NC here like before your 00:34:241 (1,1,1) this pattern?
01:09:150 (1) - what about clear this and replace 3 to just 1/1 slider one? vocal hears much better imo.
01:09:150 - if not, just clear finish here.
01:28:059 (1) - stack isn't give lingering imagery well. even here is song's last part.
01:27:332 (4) - more blanket?

A's Extra

it is good you mapped following audible sound, but it doesn't matched up well almost every part imo.
00:03:877 (2) - um. its jump distance doesn't suitable well with song.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - 2 is really easy lead to 100. it is hidden by slider, so players might can't seperate whether it is doublet or triplet.
00:20:423 (3) - catch a glimpse, it seems to perfect overlapped. but it is not.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - um. you can catch if you play this. almost players are miss or present 100 at number 6. what about change just triplet with slider one?

SPOILER
00:52:423 (6) - this blanket can improve lol
00:56:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it is quite a lot strange for play. I'd rather start slider from white-tick. it is much better for playing and funny
SPOILER
01:06:605 (2,5) - it is bring down fun a lot even awkward. it is the good choice if you put this to jump pattern.
01:09:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - Nice streaming.
01:10:302 (1) - what about match up distance?

well, I don't sure my mod will help your map. GL anyway

mapset's arrangement is really good.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-07T14:11:48+00:00

scanter wrote: 476h6t
Hi o3o/ ~~present for you~~

Easy

if possible, what about add clap sounds on more? now isn't much fun for play. Well, I again think the hitsounds are okay, but I decided to add some normal-clap hitsounds in kiai time

00:03:696 (3) - NC here for consistency, not 00:05:150 (1) here.Ok, fixed

00:27:332 (3) - same. Ok, fixed

00:54:605 (1) - NC not here, but 00:56:059 (3) here. Ok

00:58:968 - finish. Yeah, added the finish

01:05:150 (4) - lol Not sure what you mean by that . . .

Normal

Same as Easy. Also added some claps in kiai time

00:37:696 (4) - just 1 circle 00:37:877 here much better for play imo. Yeah, followed your suggestion

01:27:332 - Finish? Good idea

01:27:696 - Same. ^

Hard

Same as Easy. Added very few claps in kiai time, since I already have many other different hitsounds in kiai

AR 7.5 seems fine. Hard diff isn't hard so many, so 7.5 is the best visible for play. Okay, Changed the AR to 7.5

00:13:878 (2) - blanket? I'm not sure what you mean. I did make a blanket with 00:12:787 (1) -

00:27:696 (3) - Ctrl + C,V at 00:28:423 this point? black 1 is curved quite a bit. Ok, followed your suggestion

00:56:059 (1) - as the same. blanket? I actually wanted 00:57:514 (4) - in the middle of the spinner, but I guess a blanket will look better

01:15:332 (2,3,4,5) - rhythm is a little bit awkward. what about this? Good idea. Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

01:20:605 (1) - slightly overlapped with sky blue 5 Ok, moved the slider so it doesn't overlap the circle

01:21:696 (1,2) - it is quite a bit confusing pattern. posticous 1/4 short slider seems to hard for play.I changed that pattern to three short sliders. Hopefully it's not that confusing anymore ~~actually, I had 100 here~~

well, I don't sure my mod will help your map. GL anyway mapset's arrangement is really good. Thanx!

Thank you for the mod!

Harubi Lira

147 posts

ed May 2012

2014-12-08T08:11:06+00:00

Hi
Here's lsahi's M4M

[Milan-'s Insane]
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Change them into 3 five-note-streams to fit drum track
01:02:513 (3,4) - delete them to fit vocal

[A's Extra]
00:07:968 (5,6) - ctrl+G,and move to 145,318
00:09:150 (5) -
00:10:968 (1) - use 1/4 beats
00:25:877 (3) - rotate by 180 and have it curver
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - use 1/4 beats
00:31:696 (3,4,5,6) - here
change it into this

How I deal with it

00:34:423 (5) - delete, then 00:34:241 (4) - use 1/4 beats
00:34:787 (7,8,9) - DS plz
00:41:150 (8,1) - snap them
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - snap them ,and listen carefully, there's something strange
01:03:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - a little hard
01:09:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to read
01:22:605 (4) - useing a 1/2 beat slider is okay
01:23:756 (1) - 1/4 beats

What I want to say is the sound effect sounds strange. And I'm curious about that why you perfer 1/6 beats in an 1/4 song

SolrosRepica

83 posts

ed February 2011

2014-12-08T12:13:19+00:00

Easy

01:19:332 (1) -this spin is very long at easy.
change length the end to 01:20:787 and
01:21:877 (1,2) - add the slider example: http://puu.sh/dm2mb/cde79a0421.jpg

Normal

00:28:423 (4) - Change slider length. My arrange example: http://puu.sh/dm25v/40ff464fb3.jpg

Hard

00:02:150 (1) - change timing to 00:02:059 (1) Back beat I likes, but it is difficult to take the timing.
01:03:696 (2) - & 01:04:423 (5) - Add hit sound[Finish] I think fun to listen.
01:17:878 (4) - Add hit sound[Finish]
01:20:242 (4) - Add hit sound[Finish] if you like.
01:21:696 (1,2,3) - AWESOME!!<3

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-08T13:55:13+00:00

SolrosRepica wrote: 6i6g2i

Easy
01:19:332 (1) -this spin is very long at easy.
change length the end to 01:20:787 and
01:21:877 (1,2) - add the slider example: http://puu.sh/dm2mb/cde79a0421.jpg Nice suggestion. Fixed

.

Normal
00:28:423 (4) - Change slider length. My arrange example: http://puu.sh/dm25v/40ff464fb3.jpg Also a very nice suggestion. Fixed

Hard
00:02:150 (1) - change timing to 00:02:059 (1) Back beat I likes, but it is difficult to take the timing. Yeah, you're right. Fixed
01:03:696 (2) - & 01:04:423 (5) - Add hit sound[Finish] I think fun to listen.I like it. Followed your suggestion
01:17:878 (4) - Add hit sound[Finish] Good idea. Added
01:20:242 (4) - Add hit sound[Finish] if you like. Sorry, I don't think that finish fits
01:21:696 (1,2,3) - AWESOME!!<3 Hehe, thanks!

Thanks so much for the helpful mod!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-08T18:33:59+00:00

scanter wrote: 476h6t
Hi o3o/ ~~present for you~~

A's Extra

it is good you mapped following audible sound, but it doesn't matched up well almost every part imo.

00:03:877 (2) - um. its jump distance doesn't suitable well with song. V

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - 2 is really easy lead to 100. it is hidden by slider, so players might can't seperate whether it is doublet or triplet. I think it is just fine.

00:20:423 (3) - catch a glimpse, it seems to perfect overlapped. but it is not. I hope it is better now.

00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - um. you can catch if you play this. almost players are miss or present 100 at number 6. what about change just triplet with slider one? It plays just fine.

SPOILER

00:52:423 (6) - this blanket can improve lol Fixed, fixed stacking with 1 as well.

00:56:696 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - it is quite a lot strange for play. I'd rather start slider from white-tick. it is much better for playing and funny
SPOILER

Played around and changed it.

01:06:605 (2,5) - it is bring down fun a lot even awkward. it is the good choice if you put this to jump pattern. You are right, changed.

01:09:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - Nice streaming. Thanks! (I hope you're not sarcastic )

01:10:302 (1) - what about match up distance? It will be too messy like that.

well, I don't sure my mod will help your map. GL anyway mapset's arrangement is really good.

lsahi wrote: 2k126d
Hi
Here's lsahi's M4M

[A's Extra]
00:07:968 (5,6) - ctrl+G,and move to 145,318 No thank you.
00:09:150 (5) - ?
00:10:968 (1) - use 1/4 beats I think this one plays well.
00:25:877 (3) - rotate by 180 and have it curver I like it this way more.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - use 1/4 beats I mentioned it to everyone else as well, I'm leaving it as it is, I think it is fine.
00:31:696 (3,4,5,6) - here
change it into this Why?

How I deal with it

00:34:423 (5) - delete, then 00:34:241 (4) - use 1/4 beats Again, why? It sounds fine and plays fine.
00:34:787 (7,8,9) - DS plz Whoops, fixed!
00:41:150 (8,1) - snap them Listen to the map at 25% playback rate and you'll see that they're snapped just right.
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - snap them ,and listen carefully, there's something strange ^
01:03:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - a little hard Hard is subjective.
01:09:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to read Not really, AR 9.2 is making this just fine.
01:22:605 (4) - useing a 1/2 beat slider is okay And what's wrong with what I did?
01:23:756 (1) - 1/4 beats It is fine.

What I want to say is the sound effect sounds strange. And I'm curious about that why you perfer 1/6 beats in an 1/4 song Because a lot of parts include 1/6 and 1/12 snapped notes, I ignored a lot of them, but the ones which I feel strong in the song, I left and mapped accordingly. Please, when you mod, state REASONS as for why I would need to follow your suggestions, because I wasn't convinced at all.

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
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[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
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Harubi Lira

147 posts

ed May 2012

2014-12-08T23:36:48+00:00

[A's Extra]
00:07:968 (5,6) - ctrl+G,and move to 145,318 No thank you.
00:09:150 (5) - ?
00:10:968 (1) - use 1/4 beats I think this one plays well.
00:25:877 (3) - rotate by 180 and have it curver I like it this way more.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - use 1/4 beats I mentioned it to everyone else as well, I'm leaving it as it is, I think it is fine.
00:31:696 (3,4,5,6) - here
change it into this Why?

How I deal with it

00:34:423 (5) - delete, then 00:34:241 (4) - use 1/4 beats Again, why? It sounds fine and plays fine.
00:34:787 (7,8,9) - DS plz Whoops, fixed!
00:41:150 (8,1) - snap them Listen to the map at 25% playback rate and you'll see that they're snapped just right.
00:44:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - snap them ,and listen carefully, there's something strange ^
01:03:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - a little hard Hard is subjective.
01:09:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to read Not really, AR 9.2 is making this just fine.
01:22:605 (4) - useing a 1/2 beat slider is okay And what's wrong with what I did?
01:23:756 (1) - 1/4 beats It is fine.

What I want to say is the sound effect sounds strange. And I'm curious about that why you perfer 1/6 beats in an 1/4 song Because a lot of parts include 1/6 and 1/12 snapped notes, I ignored a lot of them, but the ones which I feel strong in the song, I left and mapped accordingly. Please, when you mod, state REASONS as for why I would need to follow your suggestions, because I wasn't convinced at all.

Oh maybe I pay my attention too much on the vocal track rather than music track, and I think sone parttens it would sound better if you follow the vocal.
Btw, as a new mapper and modder thanks for the advice.

Rakuen

1,654 posts

ed March 2013

2014-12-15T20:04:07+00:00

( =`･ω･´) Rakuen's Modding Queue (NM/M4M)

M4M from my queue

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A's Extra 254hc

Personally don't like drum hitsounds for the song
CS4? :\
00:01:877 (5) - Could space further like 00:00:787 (1,2) -
00:04:059 (3,4) - Hitsounds different with 00:01:150 (3,4) -
00:05:877 (1) - Reverse arrow is covered since 00:05:423 -
00:09:059 (4) - Suggest to remove, sounds when conflicting with 1/6 00:09:150 (5) -
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - This can be read as 1/8 easily, space 00:10:968 (1) - away from other 2 notes
00:19:150 - Feel not to speed up here, instead, could use it at 00:19:696 - cuz there are big jumps afterwards 00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
00:20:059 (2) - Minor, space a bit further from 00:19:696 (1) -
00:22:605 (3) - NC for consistency with the jumps
00:34:059 (3) - ^
01:10:302 (1) - Tails sounds at 01:10:393 -
01:16:423 - If possible make the start of every beat a hit (big white tick)
01:14:968 (1,1,1) - Could try more streams here, looks a bit easy
01:27:696 - Not using drum sounds here?
01:27:696 (3) - NC for anti jump

Milan-'s Insane 511f5f

Looks pretty fine~

Hard 575l21

00:02:059 (1) - Might take a retry to read this, suggest not to jump
00:41:333 (1) - Prefer to remove and leave a stop at 00:41:151 (5) - , don't have to follow all vocals for good gameplay
00:53:151 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - DS here a bit messy, try to use the same one for this part

Normal 6g3l6m

Just giving a general comment cuz the diff spread from Normal to Hard is a bit far
Suggest to use more red ticks, for example triple hits to harden the difficulty, so you can see some difference with Easy diff
For part like 00:00:787 - to 00:03:696 - (the first combo), could try this rhythm:

Image

Easy 3c1s6b

00:00:787 (1,2) - Symmetry in mid line, move the set to X:72 Y:112
00:06:605 (1) - Leaving more space on the middle border would looks better imo:

Image

Others jm3w

More improvements on A's Extra, and some mods on Easy, Normal and Hard would be best

Good luck.

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-16T12:38:27+00:00

Rakuen wrote: 414d2k
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Hard 575l21

00:02:059 (1) - Might take a retry to read this, suggest not to jump Removed the jump

00:41:333 (1) - Prefer to remove and leave a stop at 00:41:151 (5) - , don't have to follow all vocals for good gameplay Yeah, good idea

00:53:151 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - DS here a bit messy, try to use the same one for this part Looks fine to me . . .

Normal 6g3l6m

Just giving a general comment cuz the diff spread from Normal to Hard is a bit far I still think my Normal is hard enough.

Suggest to use more red ticks, for example triple hits to harden the difficulty, so you can see some difference with Easy diff

For part like 00:00:787 - to 00:03:696 - (the first combo), could try this rhythm: Yeah, I like it. Followed your suggestion

Image

Easy 3c1s6b

00:00:787 (1,2) - Symmetry in mid line, move the set to X:72 Y:112 Followed your suggestion

00:06:605 (1) - Leaving more space on the middle border would looks better imo: Fixed, I guess

Image

Others jm3w

More improvements on A's Extra, and some mods on Easy, Normal and Hard would be best

Good luck.

Thanks for the mod!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-16T15:57:39+00:00

Rakuen wrote: 414d2k
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Blue = Strongly recommended
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A's Extra 254hc

Personally don't like drum hitsounds for the song

CS4? :\

00:01:877 (5) - Could space further like 00:00:787 (1,2) - V

00:04:059 (3,4) - Hitsounds different with 00:01:150 (3,4) - Fixed

00:05:877 (1) - Reverse arrow is covered since 00:05:423 - I removed the whole pattern overall, changed it.

00:09:059 (4) - Suggest to remove, sounds when conflicting with 1/6 00:09:150 (5) - V

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - This can be read as 1/8 easily, space 00:10:968 (1) - away from other 2 notes Thanks for the reasoning, fixed.

00:19:150 - Feel not to speed up here, instead, could use it at 00:19:696 - cuz there are big jumps afterwards 00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Seems like a good suggestion.

00:20:059 (2) - Minor, space a bit further from 00:19:696 (1) - Since I changed the SV according to the previous note, this part was changed, I think it is fine now.

00:22:605 (3) - NC for consistency with the jumps V

00:34:059 (3) - ^ V

01:10:302 (1) - Tails sounds at 01:10:393 - I know, there are a lot of parts which I didn't follow on purpose, two 3/6 sliders sounds great together and it goes nicely in the pattern.

01:16:423 - If possible make the start of every beat a hit (big white tick) Fixed.

01:14:968 (1,1,1) - Could try more streams here, looks a bit easy Changed.

01:27:696 - Not using drum sounds here? No, a bit of flavor to the ending stream should be just fine imo.

01:27:696 (3) - NC for anti jump V

Good luck.

Thank you!

Fixed some more random stuff I found, here's the map:

SPOILER

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
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TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
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Narcissu

1,764 posts

ed August 2012

2014-12-17T11:41:27+00:00

General 6t6a34

BG use 1366*768 or 1024*768

A's Extra 254hc

are you sure use drum hitsounds ? i think it's not appropriate
00:44:423 - SV1.0~SV1.5 too exaggeration imo
00:05:877 (1) - it's unrankable
01:16:059 (1,1) - i suggest separate ……
01:27:696 (3) - NC to point antijump

Milan-'s Insane 511f5f

why not use soft-hitnormal ? i think it's better than default soft-hitwhislte.
try some straight slider ?
00:05:514 (3) - why not same as 00:05:150 (1,2) -
pretty is ok √

Hard 575l21

00:04:423 (3) - use same DS with 00:04:241 (2,4) -
00:16:605 (1) - this jump is coufusion according your other part like
00:58:969 (1) - use purple color
01:09:514 (1) - normal-hitclap not appropriate imo …… try soft-hitwhistle ?

Normal 6g3l6m

Normal too easy than your Hard diff and average Normal diff, i suggest you use more note instead of 1/2 slider, stack 1/2 3hit-note .
00:01:514 (2,3) -it‘s too difficlt for new player, hard than 4 note and do not increase star rating, try this http://puu.sh/dygUA/2bb8480a64.jpg

Easy 3c1s6b

good job ~

Others jm3w

Extra and Normal diff need more work imo ……
good luck >,

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-17T17:55:28+00:00

Narcissu wrote: 3rr5d

General 6t6a34

BG use 1366*768 or 1024*768 Changed BG resolution to 1366X768

Hard 575l21

00:04:423 (3) - use same DS with 00:04:241 (2,4) - Ok, fixed

00:16:605 (1) - this jump is coufusion according your other part like Ok, I DSed that part. Removed the jump

00:58:969 (1) - use purple color Uhm . . . okay

01:09:514 (1) - normal-hitclap not appropriate imo …… try soft-hitwhistle ? Okay, followed your suggestion

Normal 6g3l6m

Normal too easy than your Hard diff and average Normal diff, i suggest you use more note instead of 1/2 slider, stack 1/2 3hit-note . Well, since I had a lot of complaints that this diff is too easy, I made a lot changes and I really hope it's harder now

00:01:514 (2,3) -it‘s too difficlt for new player, hard than 4 note and do not increase star rating, try this http://puu.sh/dygUA/2bb8480a64.jpg Followed your suggestion

Easy 3c1s6b

good job ~ Thanks!

Others jm3w

Extra and Normal diff need more work imo ……

good luck >,

Thanks for your mod!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-18T11:38:57+00:00

Narcissu wrote: 3rr5d

A's Extra 254hc

are you sure use drum hitsounds ? i think it's not appropriate Life is hard, I think it fits fine, but if someone will give me a good alternative I will use it.

00:44:423 - SV1.0~SV1.5 too exaggeration imo That's a really strong part, I think that's just fine.

00:05:877 (1) - it's unrankable Irrelevant.

01:16:059 (1,1) - i suggest separate …… it's unrankable Irrelevant.

01:27:696 (3) - NC to point antijump it's unrankable Irrelevant.

Do you mind rechecking? Your notes are according to the older version before Rakuen's mod, it is just that Nya didn't update my diff on time

Eitherway, thanks for the mod.

Ichigaki

1,767 posts

ed February 2013

2014-12-18T23:23:06+00:00

Thanks for give us a chance to mod your map

Called from ♪ Ichigaki's [AllMode] Modding Team ♪ 5i4i

General 562g1w

Song Setup :
1. Metadata : I'm not sure with the title because the album was canceled (http://vgmdb.net/album/31673). Ask someone to fix this before bubbled!
2. Other : Clear
Music and background :
1. Music : Clear
2. Background : Clear
Kiai and audio preview point :
1. Kiai : Maybe end the kiai 01:26:423 - or 01:25:150 -
2. Audio preview point : Maybe start 00:58:059 - , but yours is still okay

Warning 5i732f

This mod mostly contain suggestion, so feel free to reject it with the reason

A's Extra w303d

00:04:059 (3) - Unsnapped
00:04:764 (5) - Unsnapped, and please reduce the distance with last object, maybe same with 00:03:877 (2,3) -
00:05:332 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd to see you change the pattern of this, the snap in 00:06:059 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is different and look bad. Try to make it all same
00:09:150 (4) - Unsnapped
00:11:635 (1) - Unsnapped and increase the distance with 00:11:211 (1) - in x:224 (aww, i confused to tell this orz)
00:12:787 (1,3) - Make the blanket better, x:24 y:164
00:17:605 (5,2) - Blanket maybe better
00:23:332 (5,1,2) - Confusing imo, maybe re-arrange, but it's up to you
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Blanket here
00:40:241 (2) - Maybe stack this with 00:39:605 (4) -
00:54:968 (2,3) - Improve the blanket
01:02:059 (4,5) - How about Ctrl + G? Seems good too
01:10:756 (1) - Unsnapped
01:12:423 (2,3) - Improve the blanket
01:13:514 (2,3) - ^
01:15:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Confusing for me, but actually okay

Milan-'s Insane 1l2z2o

00:28:060 (6,1) - Improve the blanket
01:06:241 (1,2) - Maybe blanket
Already good for me

Hard 2z402e

00:12:787 (1,2) - Improve the blanket
00:18:150 - Add note here
01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - Different spacing, I think it should be same here
01:04:423 (5,6) - Better if not stacked
01:09:877 (3,4) - Improve the blanket
01:14:968 (1,2,3,4) - Make the distance same especially 01:14:968 (1,2) -
01:20:605 (1) - It started on 01:20:787 - imo

Normal 1we27

00:12:423 (6,1,2) - Improve the blanket
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^

Easy already good

Overall 5n4c3z

Wow, Black Rock Shooter. This mapset is good, just doubt with the metadata and some unsnapped thing in A's Extra. Good luck guys~

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-19T08:32:31+00:00

Ichigaki wrote: 6l1r6
Thanks for give us a chance to mod your map

Called from ♪ Ichigaki's [AllMode] Modding Team ♪ 5i4i

General 562g1w

Song Setup :

Metadata : I'm not sure with the title because the album was canceled (http://vgmdb.net/album/31673). Ask someone to fix this before bubbled! I decided to look myself and I found this album: http://vgmdb.net/album/31382 so I think the metadata is fine

Other : Clear

Music and background :

Music : Clear

Background : Clear

Kiai and audio preview point :

Kiai : Maybe end the kiai 01:26:423 - or 01:25:150 - Nah, I'm fine with where my kiai is now

Audio preview point : Maybe start 00:58:059 - , but yours is still okay I like my preview time better. I want it to start where she says "Black rock shooter"

Warning 5i732f
This mod mostly contain suggestion, so feel free to reject it with the reason

Hard 2z402e

00:12:787 (1,2) - Improve the blanket Tried my best to improve it

00:18:150 - Add note here Good idea, added the note

01:01:878 (1,2,3,4) - Different spacing, I think it should be same here I'm not sure what kind of spacing you mean. Maybe be more specific

01:04:423 (5,6) - Better if not stacked Okay, unstacked the two notes

01:09:877 (3,4) - Improve the blanket Made a tiny adjustment

01:14:968 (1,2,3,4) - Make the distance same especially 01:14:968 (1,2) - Fixed the spacing

01:20:605 (1) - It started on 01:20:787 - imo No, that doesn't sound right. I think it should be on the red tick, so no change

Normal 1we27

00:12:423 (6,1,2) - Improve the blanket The blanket looks fine, but I did change it a teeny tiny bit

00:20:423 (5,1) - ^ Tried my best to improve it

Easy already good Thanks!

Overall 5n4c3z
Wow, Black Rock Shooter. This mapset is good, just doubt with the metadata and some unsnapped thing in A's Extra. Good luck guys~

Hopefully the metadata is fine now.
Thanks so much for the mod!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-19T15:53:56+00:00

Ichigaki wrote: 6l1r6
Thanks for give us a chance to mod your map

Called from ♪ Ichigaki's [AllMode] Modding Team ♪ 5i4i

Warning 5i732f
This mod mostly contain suggestion, so feel free to reject it with the reason

A's Extra w303d

00:04:059 (3) - Unsnapped But it is timed correctly, listen in 25% Playback Rate

00:04:764 (5) - Unsnapped, and please reduce the distance with last object, maybe same with 00:03:877 (2,3) - It is timed correctly but I will lower the distance.

00:05:332 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd to see you change the pattern of this, the snap in 00:06:059 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is different and look bad. Try to make it all same I did it like that on purpose, the DS on the first 6 notes is 1x and then the next triple is 0.8x and the one afterwards is 1.2x, the only thing I will change here is the NC on the last triple.

00:09:150 (4) - Unsnapped 1/6 and it is snapped just fine ( to use 25% Playback Rate.

00:11:635 (1) - Unsnapped and increase the distance with 00:11:211 (1) - in x:224 (aww, i confused to tell this orz) ^ and I moved it to x-224, the distance is lowered, not increased, and it feels and looks better.

00:12:787 (1,3) - Make the blanket better, x:24 y:164 V

00:17:605 (5,2) - Blanket maybe better They're not supposed to be related at all, it is fine atm.

00:23:332 (5,1,2) - Confusing imo, maybe re-arrange, but it's up to you Reading is one of the aspects a player needs to get good at The AR is 9.2 and it shouldn't be too hard to read.

00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Blanket here It wasn't intended to be a blanket but I moved it a bit to make it look more like a blanket.

00:40:241 (2) - Maybe stack this with 00:39:605 (4) - I like this! Changed.

00:54:968 (2,3) - Improve the blanket I tried to do so few times already, I hope it is fine now.

01:02:059 (4,5) - How about Ctrl + G? Seems good too I like it because the jump goes nicely with the vocals, changed.

01:10:756 (1) - Unsnapped 25% PBR

01:12:423 (2,3) - Improve the blanket V

01:13:514 (2,3) - ^ V

01:15:332 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Confusing for me, but actually okay Thanks

Wow, Black Rock Shooter. This mapset is good, just doubt with the metadata and some unsnapped thing in A's Extra. Good luck guys~[/notice]

Thanks for the mod!

SPOILER

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tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

ed November 2013

2014-12-21T16:11:50+00:00

♬ A's Extra ♬ 6x6z6v

00:02:059 - Good place to set a circle that stacks with 00:01:877 (5) - so it doesn't feel empty.
00:04:423 (4) - This slider is hard to read imo. Try to do something like Ctrl + H, Ctrl + J, Ctrl + G, and use 8 distance spacing, and place it the same place as before, so it looks like:

^
00:07:696 (4,5,6) - It's so hard, and it has a weird flow. Why not try to do Ctrl + G on 00:07:696 (4) - so it gets a better flow too.
00:20:059 (2) - Make the blanket more blanket like. A bit more curvy.
00:28:968 (4,5,6) - Feels overmapped when it's 1/6, why not just 1/4? And it's hard to tap.
00:29:514 (8,3) - I personally don't like this overlap. Try to avoid it?
00:31:696 (3,4,5) - This part is really good, it reminds of this part 00:28:968 (4,5,6) - It's a good example for overmapped. 00:31:696 (3,4,5) - This part is not overmapped, but the other part is overmapped, if you understand.
00:39:150 (8,3) - Avoid overlap.
01:10:059 (3,4,5) - This end is like 80% hard to read, and the placing is a bit overmapped because it overlaps here 01:09:514 (5,6,7,3,4,5) - Try to make it more smooth.

♬ Milan-'s Insane ♬ 6y2027

-Fine

The rest is fine, couldn't really find any problems.

♬ ♬ 52443y

Nice map, and good luck with it~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-21T17:03:11+00:00

-Tochi wrote: 1g3865

♬ A's Extra ♬ 6x6z6v

00:02:059 - Good place to set a circle that stacks with 00:01:877 (5) - so it doesn't feel empty. But there is not any beat there? No need to overmap for no reason, especially when it is just the beginning of the song.

00:04:423 (4) - This slider is hard to read imo. Try to do something like Ctrl + H, Ctrl + J, Ctrl + G, and use 8 distance spacing, and place it the same place as before, so it looks like: I like it as it is, it is really not hard to read.

^

00:07:696 (4,5,6) - It's so hard, and it has a weird flow. Why not try to do Ctrl + G on 00:07:696 (4) - so it gets a better flow too. It is not too hard, it just challenges your reading skills a bit, I like it the way it is right now.

00:20:059 (2) - Make the blanket more blanket like. A bit more curvy. I think it is fine as it is.

00:28:968 (4,5,6) - Feels overmapped when it's 1/6, why not just 1/4? And it's hard to tap. This is an Extra, maybe I should just place 1/1 sliders all over the map and that's it? It follows the rhythm and vocals correctly, it plays nicely and it is great.

00:29:514 (8,3) - I personally don't like this overlap. Try to avoid it? Played around and change pattern a bit.

00:31:696 (3,4,5) - This part is really good, it reminds of this part 00:28:968 (4,5,6) - It's a good example for overmapped. 00:31:696 (3,4,5) - This part is not overmapped, but the other part is overmapped, if you understand. I understand, but I think you are wrong.

00:39:150 (8,3) - Avoid overlap. I don't think it awful, it looks just fine.

01:10:059 (3,4,5) - This end is like 80% hard to read, and the placing is a bit overmapped because it overlaps here 01:09:514 (5,6,7,3,4,5) - Try to make it more smooth. 9.2 AR makes it just fine, how come it is overmapped because of the placing? Try to play it yourself, you barely see any overlaps.

Thank you for your time.

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RandF

1,249 posts

ed March 2013

2014-12-23T14:08:10+00:00

hey, thanks for M4M~

[General]

romanised title: ブラック★ロックシューター
artist: supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
romanised artist: supercell feat. 初音ミク

and move "ryo" to tags
source from the credit of anime OP http://puu.sh/dF19G/d6e2c8399f.jpg
The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. unranked!!!
check Ranking Criteria http://puu.sh/dF1S9/c46dba3a18.png

[Easy]

00:21:150- how about finish?
00:22:605- ^
00:53:150 (1,2,3) - I prefer to set more roundly for good looking

SPOILER
01:00:423- I don't understand this clap. I recommend to add clap at backbeat (2nd and 4th beat) like 01:10:605 ~ 01:18:968
01:01:877- ^

[Normal]

spacing is too close? hard to see 1/2 rhythm especially. I prefer DS 1.0x
00:16:423 (3) - hard to find rhythm. suggetion~
00:22:605- how about finish?
00:41:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too long 1/2 rhythm connection, imo. suggetion~
00:58:968 ~ 01:19:332- same as easy about clap. I prefer to add clap at backbeat
01:26:241- finish?

[Hard]

00:07:150- add a note
00:08:605- add a note and remove 00:09:333 (5) -
00:29:514 (5) - Ctrl+G and stack 00:29:787 (6,7) - on the end of slider for good flow
00:40:968 (4,5) - this jump is not good. make DS 1.1x
01:07:696- finish
01:08:242 (2,3) - ^
01:08:968- ^
01:21:696 (1,2,3,1) - straight pattern is hard to play, imo
01:22:787 (2,3) - I prefer 1/1 slider

[Milan-'s Insane]

01:08:968 (3,1) - make DS smaller?

[A's Extra]

I recommend to CS 4 for balance with other diffs
00:23:696 (1,2) - swap NC because hard to find rhythm
00:55:877 (5) - I prefer to delete
01:13:332- clap?
01:14:423 (4) - end at 01:14:605 and add clap at end

~Good Luck~

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-23T16:26:25+00:00

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c
hey, thanks for M4M~
[A's Extra]

I recommend to CS 4 for balance with other diffs Nah, this is my diff and it is not related to the other diffs.

00:23:696 (1,2) - swap NC because hard to find rhythm V

00:55:877 (5) - I prefer to delete No, why?

01:13:332- clap? Sure

01:14:423 (4) - end at 01:14:605 and add clap at end Added clap but the slider ends on the right time.

~Good Luck~

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.699998

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:BLACK★ROCK SHOOTER
Artist:ryo(supercell) feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:ryo(supercell) feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Burakku Rokku Shūtā Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay
BeatmapID:522317
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9.2
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
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240,120,42423,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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260,284,48059,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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175,297,49150,2,0,P|179:253|203:215,1,90,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,188,49423,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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416,168,50423,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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348,68,51332,1,6,0:0:0:0:
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328,238,51696,1,4,0:0:0:0:
336,192,51787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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300,220,52877,2,0,L|252:192,1,45,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,52,53150,6,0,B|240:112|280:156|256:232,1,180
152,320,53696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,320,53787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,320,53877,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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448,212,56059,6,0,B|344:232|344:232|376:184,1,135
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56,200,62605,1,4,0:0:0:0:
160,320,62787,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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320,100,63241,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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288,104,63423,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,108,63514,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,112,63605,1,8,0:0:0:0:
152,172,63696,5,4,0:0:0:0:
204,180,63787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
252,204,63877,1,8,0:0:0:0:
296,236,63968,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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164,304,64332,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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24,168,64605,1,8,0:0:0:0:
56,160,64696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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44,244,66787,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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192,288,80241,5,8,0:0:0:0:
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428,160,80696,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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288,284,83756,6,0,L|284:328,3,37.5,8|8|8|6,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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60,176,84423,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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302,271,86787,5,10,0:0:0:0:
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92,296,87877,1,10,0:0:0:0:
99,272,87968,1,10,0:0:0:0:
108,250,88059,1,6,0:0:0:0:

Also, incase you didn't see the in-game message nya, here's the new video without sound http://puu.sh/dGwWU/d6db0387fa.avi

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-24T08:38:30+00:00

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c
hey, thanks for M4M~

[General]

romanised title: ブラック★ロックシューター
artist: supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
romanised artist: supercell feat. 初音ミク You mixed up the romanised title and the artist. The romanised artist is the english version

and move "ryo" to tags Fixed
source from the credit of anime OP http://puu.sh/dF19G/d6e2c8399f.jpg

The video's audio track must be removed from the video file. unranked!!! Removed the audio thanks to Avishay
check Ranking Criteria http://puu.sh/dF1S9/c46dba3a18.png

[Easy]

00:21:150- how about finish? Yeah, good idea. Fixed

00:22:605- ^ ^

00:53:150 (1,2,3) - I prefer to set more roundly for good looking Okay, followed your suggestion

SPOILER

01:00:423- I don't understand this clap. I recommend to add clap at backbeat (2nd and 4th beat) like 01:10:605 ~ 01:18:968 Yeah, I realized my current claps doesn't sound that good. So placed it on other notes, and now it sounds much better. But I didn't place it where you had suggested. I like my placements better.

01:01:877- ^ ^

[Normal]

spacing is too close? hard to see 1/2 rhythm especially. I prefer DS 1.0x Ok, changed the DS to 1.0x

00:16:423 (3) - hard to find rhythm. suggetion~ Followed your suggestion

00:22:605- how about finish? Ok, good idea. Fixed

00:41:514 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too long 1/2 rhythm connection, imo. suggetion~ Followed your suggestion

00:58:968 ~ 01:19:332- same as easy about clap. I prefer to add clap at backbeat No, I like my claps as they are placed now

01:26:241- finish? Ok

[Hard]

00:07:150- add a note No, I don't think it fits with the rhythm. I want a different rhythm

00:08:605- add a note and remove 00:09:333 (5) - No, I want a different rhythm

00:29:514 (5) - Ctrl+G and stack 00:29:787 (6,7) - on the end of slider for good flow Okay, followed your suggestion

00:40:968 (4,5) - this jump is not good. make DS 1.1x Ok, fixed

01:07:696- finish Ok, added finish

01:08:242 (2,3) - ^ ^

01:08:968- ^ ^

01:21:696 (1,2,3,1) - straight pattern is hard to play, imo Yeah, I also thought about changing that. Changed the pattern. Think it will be easier to play now

01:22:787 (2,3) - I prefer 1/1 slider Good idea. Changed.

~Good Luck~

Thanks so much for the mod! Will mod your map soon.

RandF

1,249 posts

ed March 2013

2014-12-24T10:11:48+00:00

-Nya- wrote: 4y392e

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c

romanised title: ブラック★ロックシューター
artist: supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
romanised artist: supercell feat. 初音ミク You mixed up the romanised title and the artist. The romanised artist is the english version

and move "ryo" to tags Fixed
source from the credit of anime OP http://puu.sh/dF19G/d6e2c8399f.jpg

oh...sorry... Im very very foolish...
you're right, I mixed up about "romanised"

Zweib

579 posts

ed November 2011

2014-12-27T08:25:13+00:00

Hello~ M4M,. sorry for delay because the Editor is soooooo lag after I update osu orz.

[Easy]
01:19:332 (1) - this spinner may be too short in Easy. It would be better if auto can spin 7~8k. And 01:21:877 (1) is also too close to the spinner. According to ranking criteria, you shouldn't put any note until 01:22:241

[Normal]
00:21:150 (1) - move down by 2 grid, it is overlapped with the score bar.
00:40:059 (4) - move 2 grid left?
00:44:423 (1) - 1 grid left?
00:54:605 (4) - move 1 grid right

[Hard]
00:06:242 (4) - 276,224?
00:41:151 (5,1) - why not stack? I didn't see any other similar pattern in this diff
00:46:605 (5) - keep consistent DS
00:48:059 (3,1) - slider bodies may be too close, move 00:48:787 (1) left by several grid.
00:59:696 (4,1) - make them symmetric to the center?
01:12:788 (3) - move left by several grid?
I'm clear that you set NC according to the vocal but the combo pattern looks kinda random. maybe you should add an NC every 2 stanzas, try to make them consistent.

[Milan-'s Insane]
fun diff

00:09:150 (5,6,7) - this triple is not consistent to others imo, you should move 00:09:240 (6) to 00:08:696
00:10:968 (1,2) - snapped to 1/6 to follow the drum? They are sliders so I think it would not be hard for play.
01:23:696 (1,2) - ^
00:09:877 (3,5,7) - add NC to these, make colorhax?

A's Extra is fun too but still needs much work with the rhythm and hitsound. sorry but I have no idea how to help ;w;

Good Luck!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-27T10:15:42+00:00

Zweib wrote: 6h613l
Hello~ M4M,. sorry for delay because the Editor is soooooo lag after I update osu orz.

[Easy]
01:19:332 (1) - this spinner may be too short in Easy. It would be better if auto can spin 7~8k. And 01:21:877 (1) is also too close to the spinner. According to ranking criteria, you shouldn't put any note until 01:22:241 I left the spinner there, but I did delete that slider and placed a note 01:22:241 - instead.

[Normal]
00:21:150 (1) - move down by 2 grid, it is overlapped with the score bar. Okay, the tail's not overlapping the score bar anymore
00:40:059 (4) - move 2 grid left? I still have to keep my DS in mind and I'm not sure why you want me to move it . . .
00:44:423 (1) - 1 grid left? Fixed, I guess
00:54:605 (4) - move 1 grid right ^

[Hard]
00:06:242 (4) - 276,224? Okay
00:41:151 (5,1) - why not stack? I didn't see any other similar pattern in this diff Nah, I like my pattern like that
00:46:605 (5) - keep consistent DS Ok, fixed
00:48:059 (3,1) - slider bodies may be too close, move 00:48:787 (1) left by several grid. Ok, fixed
00:59:696 (4,1) - make them symmetric to the center? Fixed
01:12:788 (3) - move left by several grid? I decided to stack the slider on 01:12:605 (2) -
I'm clear that you set NC according to the vocal but the combo pattern looks kinda random. maybe you should add an NC every 2 stanzas, try to make them consistent. Made changes to the NC'ing in this diff. Hopefully it's better now
Good Luck! Thanks!

Thanks so much for your mod!

Shurelia

Global

2,813 posts

ed December 2013

2014-12-27T16:01:49+00:00

おっす!やったよ!

~ From Lovely Modding Quest! ~

[General]

- I suggest to add "Black Rock Shooter" to the tags. since most people search this anime by using that name.

[Easy]

00:34:241 (2) - add finish on the head to make it syncronize with (1).
00:50:241 (1) - Add finish on the head so it'll sounds better
01:03:332 (3) - add clap on the reverse slider.
01:10:605 (1) - how about to change it so it'll looks like this ? http://puu.sh/dLlzq.jpg. Because the current one make 01:10:968 - feels empty.

[Normal]

- Already fine for me~

[Hard]

00:01:514 (3) - Move this a bit so it become straight from (2). Example : x : 172 , y:304
00:17:423 (7) - Should be removed since it didn't fit well with the song.
00:29:787 (6,7) - I'm recommending for stacking this, since it'll be too hard for a "hard" diff.
00:41:151 (5) - Since you usually stacking this with the next object, why not stacking this? I suggest to stack this so it'll be easy to read.

[Milan's Insane]

- Nothing to say here

Sorry but i had to skip extra diff since i'm still not good enough to mod it.

That's all for me, Hope this help. And good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-27T17:23:42+00:00

Zweib wrote: 6h613l
A's Extra is fun too but still needs much work with the rhythm and hitsound. sorry but I have no idea how to help ;w;

Good Luck!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-28T10:01:30+00:00

Shurelia wrote: 6i2g27
おっす!やったよ!

~ From Lovely Modding Quest! ~

[General]

- I suggest to add "Black Rock Shooter" to the tags. since most people search this anime by using that name. Ok, added that to the tags

[Easy]

00:34:241 (2) - add finish on the head to make it syncronize with (1). Ok, fixed

00:50:241 (1) - Add finish on the head so it'll sounds better Ok

01:03:332 (3) - add clap on the reverse slider. Ok

01:10:605 (1) - how about to change it so it'll looks like this ? http://puu.sh/dLlzq.jpg. Because the current one make 01:10:968 - feels empty. Ok, followed your suggestion

[Normal]

- Already fine for me~ Yay!

[Hard]

00:01:514 (3) - Move this a bit so it become straight from (2). Example : x : 172 , y:304 Ok, good idea

00:17:423 (7) - Should be removed since it didn't fit well with the song. Ok

00:29:787 (6,7) - I'm recommending for stacking this, since it'll be too hard for a "hard" diff. I think it's fine

00:41:151 (5) - Since you usually stacking this with the next object, why not stacking this? I suggest to stack this so it'll be easy to read. I still think it's fine, cuz I want to make the diff a bit harder.

That's all for me, Hope this help. And good luck!

Thanks for your mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2014-12-28T10:03:10+00:00

@ Milan- and Avishay - Please update to latest version since I changed the tags.

moonlightleaf

2,167 posts

ed September 2011

2014-12-28T13:12:35+00:00

[Easy]

00:18:605 (1) - i think use the shape(crtl+h) to void overlap

00:58:968 (1,4) - avoid overlap ,can try this

SPOILER

01:05:150 (4,3) - struck

[Normal]

00:09:514 (1) - blanket with 5,use this to check?(this is my way for checking blanket)

SPOILER

00:11:696 (4,5) - try

SPOILER

00:20:241 (4) - delete it, real stream is 00:20:241-00:20:332-00:20:423 imo

01:10:423 (5) - delete

01:14:059 (2) - change to note at 01:14:241

01:24:059 (4) - blanket will be more better

[Hard]

00:04:787 (4) - x|200 y|136

00:06:605 (1) - ds

00:08:059 (1) - maybe folw will be better

SPOILER

00:08:968 (3) - delete will better to play and read

00:10:968 (1) - change to 2notes? better to play

00:19:877 (5) - no vol here , delete

00:22:787 (2,3,4) - try

SPOILER

00:30:423 (2) - vol( 00:30:605 - ) in slider's middle listen badly

00:31:878 (5) - ^

01:04:605 (6,1) - bad flow,try

SPOILER

01:14:605 (4,1,2,3) - try

SPOILER

01:27:333 (4,1) - maybe 4 return 1time to end ?

-Actor-

41 posts

ed October 2013

2014-12-28T23:18:27+00:00

~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-29T12:04:50+00:00

-Actor- wrote: 433l37
~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Try to be more specific about where, so Nya will be able to respond to your notes accurately.

Tsumetaku

732 posts

ed May 2012

2014-12-29T16:01:07+00:00

HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

★ = Some overall comments
◆ = Suggestions
▲ = Unrankable stuffs

═╪ General ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。

▲ Black Rock Shooter in TAGS overlap with title...

═╪ E ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。

★ Great :3!!

═╪ N ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。
01:04:787 (1,2) - I feel kinda confused on this rhythm since it between at which the previous pattern follows 1/1 and next pattern follows vocal...
01:10:423 (5) - Maybe u can delete this one cuz on you follow vocal on previous pattern,and it doesn't affect in flow~ (and i feel more suit without 1/2 in here while clicking

═╪ H ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。
00:18:060 (8,9,10) - these triplets touches previous slider cuz to stack setting,u can pull them further to get rid of overlapping :>
00:59:514 (2,3,4) - ^
00:41:151 (5) - imo u should keep these more closer to 0.1x or further,because there's only an example like this in this map.
01:03:696 (2) - I think the bg drums can little jumps here,try X:120 Y:212,These would be fun
01:04:423 (5) - ^ and X:308 Y:84
01:17:878 (4) - NC at here will be nice
01:19:696 (2,3) - Make the ds to 1.1x,looks kinda narrow now.

═╪ Milan-'s I ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。

★ Very Interesting Diff!!! I enjoy playing things like this XD
00:00:423 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more visible on these 4+1 pattern

═╪ A's EX ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。

★ I think the Drum hitsounds is a little bit annoying at here...
maybe can change by lowering the volume or replacing the hitsound sample(like using normal hitsound as clap at Insane
◆ Maybe just set CS to 4? it's an Extra and lower diff uses 4,3.5 is not forbidden but 4 is more suitable here.
00:09:150 (4) - remove the first and second clap on this reverse slider,sounds weird
00:29:211 (7) - remove finish,weird also espically its using 1/6
00:34:241 (2) - NC?
00:48:968 (1) - stack them,or unstack them~
00:52:423 (6) - Move the slider point to X:128 Y:256 to get better blanket

ag i tried new reply arrangement XD

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-29T20:33:05+00:00

Tsumetaku wrote: j69s
HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

═╪ A's EX ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。

★ I think the Drum hitsounds is a little bit annoying at here...
maybe can change by lowering the volume or replacing the hitsound sample(like using normal hitsound as clap at Insane The only thing I'll do is decrease the volume by 5%

◆ Maybe just set CS to 4? it's an Extra and lower diff uses 4,3.5 is not forbidden but 4 is more suitable here. No thank you!
00:09:150 (4) - remove the first and second clap on this reverse slider,sounds weird You are right, removed.
00:29:211 (7) - remove finish,weird also espically its using 1/6 Nope, it fits just perfectly with the beats.
00:34:241 (2) - NC?No need to spam it anymore, 1 starts the new pattern.
00:48:968 (1) - stack them,or unstack them~ Stacked!
00:52:423 (6) - Move the slider point to X:128 Y:256 to get better blanket Fixed, thank you!

Thanks

SPOILER

osu file format v13

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TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
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ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
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[ Joey ]

390 posts

ed May 2013

2014-12-29T23:41:57+00:00

Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav

Easy

00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605
00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here
00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2)
00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.
No reason to skip this note
00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 -
00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here
00:35:332 - ^
00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg
00:52:787 - Add a note here.
00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) -
00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket
01:00:787 (3,4) - ^
01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat.
01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow.
01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs.
01:26:787 (2) - ^
01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76

Normal

00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg
00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way.
00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's page If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there
00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg
So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about.
00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help.
00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players.
01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap?
00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol)
01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider.
01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better
01:23:696 (3,4) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg

Hard

00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps.
00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section
I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) -
This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance.
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job
The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg
01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them
01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg

Milan-'s Insane

Of course it's up to you, but I would personally name the difficulty Milan's Insane (without the -)
00:05:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would just repeat the same rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dP5Jr/54b973fcf6.jpg
00:44:968 - A note should be clickable on this beat. I recommend a rhythm more like this: http://puu.sh/dP6eF/a6ae36061d.jpg Adding some slightly larger jumps at this part would feel nice also.
01:06:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can make these jumps look a little neater. Try something like this (sorry its hard to see. I didnt move slider #1): http://puu.sh/dP6L5/74ef8b5066.jpg
01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is just personal preference, but I would like it if these jumps were a little bigger. It feel like it would go with the music, and be a good way to close out the song.
Really solid difficulty. Nice work.

A's Extra

I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg
I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really
I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy.
EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T10:36:21+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j

A's Extra

I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset. I meant that as for I have my own maaping / hitsounding style and my difficulty represents it correctly.

00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here. Well you should listen to this part at 25% Playback rate and you'll find you are wrong.

00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg ^ In this case it follows the vocals then the beat.

I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really

I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra" If that's true I will have to change it, but I will wait for a BAT to mention it.

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thank you for mod!

[ Joey ]

390 posts

ed May 2013

2014-12-30T11:49:29+00:00

Avishay wrote: x5733

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j
[*]I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.

/quote]

Thank you for mod!

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant)

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time

Good luck!!

hehe

1,975 posts

ed November 2012

2014-12-30T11:51:24+00:00

m4m

[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

[insane]
00:12:787 (2,3,4) - just neaten this by making one slider, copypaste and rotate by 120.
00:44:423 - drums in this portion are very distinct, instead of following the regular slider rhythm, you can use circles only for intensity. distinct drums on sliderends such as 00:44:968 - 00:45:514 - should really be emphasized with a circle, in my opinion.
00:58:059 (1) - here's a nice slider tip. since the voice is on the red tick at 00:58:423 - , you can make the elbow of the slider precisely at that point: http://i.imgur.com/tYpY3GW.png

[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here.

[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T16:34:44+00:00

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps. Lack? They're not a must.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap I know they're not consistent but I think it looks fine and plays fine as well.
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg I agree, it was awkward indeed and your explanation was great. I made a similar pattern.
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket Could've just said to fix the blanket, done.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/ I have to disagree, first of all they sound great and play nicely, and just try to listen to it on 25% Playback rate while looking at the time line, those are 1/6 notes.
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern. No I didn't try to do that, it would have been less curvy if I tried to, and it looks just fine.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed Yes it is? I just don't want the slider to be too curvy.
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other. They do have a synergy, there's a break point right between them, I didn't want 3 to flow directly into 5 and I think they have cool synergy.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary They follow the drums, and there's no clear rules for NC, I've seen new ranked maps with NC spammed on streams.
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed. Fixed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better Nya needs to update the map from the mod before you, it was fixed then
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant) Nope.

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time
Good luck!! I do consider every small note, before I deny something I check it several times to make sure I really think that it is not right. Whenever I say "It is my style", I mean that I don't want to be regular and repetitive, I do it in my way to be unpredictable and original. And obviously some people will dislike it, just like a lot of people dislike Doko's and Skystar's mapping styles, but some people like those too.

Thank you, I've learned some new stuff thanks to you.

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Last edited by Avishay 2015-01-02T12:21:58+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2014-12-30T16:35:57+00:00

handsome wrote: 483w1s
m4m

[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap Hm? It is mapped, as the end of 00:11:211 (1) - If you're talking about what afterwards, it is not even a beat gap.

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"
this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

Grrum

886 posts

ed November 2011

2015-01-01T18:24:26+00:00

Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1.
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both.

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - .
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps.
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes.
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this:
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different.

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either.

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail.

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap

[Insane]

The claps sound really heavy and kind of take over the song too much. Try a volume of around 60% throughout the beatmap

00:33:514 (3,4) – I don't like stacking these on 1 and 2, instead I would rather see a contrast to the pattern 00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - . Try seeing if a symmetrical pattern would work.

00:41:150 (6,7,8) – didn't like the triple, try deleting 7. I like this change because it feels more of a rest time than an energy time. Miku stops singing, you come off a not common jump pattern, and you're about to launch into a new pattern. For all these reasons, I think it's better for the player to calm down with a simple stack instead of a triple.

00:58:968 (1) – consider making a slight sv increase here to emphasize the kiai section (I'm thinking about 1.1 or 1.15)

01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – This didn't feel big enough as a finale. Try having 01:25:878 (5,6) - be spaced out more. I really think bigger jumps here has a good ending feel to it.

[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-01T22:45:28+00:00

pinataman wrote: 3e2q46
[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

I honestly don't dislike the hitsounds, but I guess they can be better, I've fixed / changed what you've noted and I will rework the hitsounds tomorrow.

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-03T13:51:12+00:00

Alright, I finished doing the hitsounds again, I used the normal and soft sets, but without any custom hitsounds, I think it is fine, I also changed some patterns in the diff as well.

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Pappy

1,020 posts

ed August 2013

2015-01-08T20:56:33+00:00

LATE but M4M here. Sorry for delay.

General

Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word)
Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>

A's Extra

Hitsounding is strange. You should use Hitsound Copier or something and copy Milan-'s or -Nya-'s hitsounds (if he agree.)
This diff is really overmapped. Unwanted 1/6 sounds/plays bad.

Milan

00:05:514 (3) - It should be 1/2 than note at 00:05:787 , it's confusing. ;w;
No problems here, nice diff as always. <3

Hard

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it.
00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1)
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_;
01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking.
01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) )

00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this:

Here

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Normal

It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :<

Easy

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry

The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!

Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Arcubin

689 posts

ed September 2013

2015-01-09T13:55:08+00:00

from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~nvm that

[General]

Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset
personally i don't like your hitsounding :3

[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._.
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion)
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket?

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket?
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider?
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :<
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer?
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean)
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320)
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note

[Milan-'s Insane]
00:41:514 (1) - add finish at start
00:47:332 (1) - ^

this one is good :>

[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head?
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w=
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w=
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following?
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w;

Avishay

1,250 posts

ed April 2013

2015-01-09T16:55:30+00:00

azintairin710 wrote: n4f1t
[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish V
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head? Oops.
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead Nope
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w= That's fine.
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section The only thing I fixed is 00:44:423 (1) - 's placement
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w= You'll survive, I think this overlap is neat.
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following? The beat? Listen to the song at 25% Playback rate.
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away I think it's fine since you can see the slider itself, but I also have fixed the arrangement of 01:15:696 (1,2,3,4) -
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g It is on purpose.

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w; I'll have to disagree

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Milan-

1,473 posts

ed August 2011

2015-01-10T02:34:44+00:00

so much mods D:

changed some hitsounds, the rest is just fine asda

mapp

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:Milan-'s Insane
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Black Rock Shooter Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay ryo
BeatmapID:521681
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,840,"Black Rock Shooter.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 ()
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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369,280,86968,1,0,1:0:0:0:
467,141,87150,1,0,1:0:0:0:
444,311,87332,2,0,P|379:359|303:329,1,170,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
467,141,88059,5,4,0:0:0:0:

-Nya-

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2015-01-10T08:35:41+00:00

moonlightleaf wrote: 562s6b
[Easy]

00:18:605 (1) - i think use the shape(crtl+h) to void overlap Nah, I did that overlap on purpose.

00:58:968 (1,4) - avoid overlap ,can try this Thanks for the suggestion, but the overlap is not such a big problem, so no change, but if other modders mention this as well then I'll consider changing it.

SPOILER

01:05:150 (4,3) - struck Fixed the stack.

[Normal]

00:09:514 (1) - blanket with 5,use this to check?(this is my way for checking blanket) Tried my best to improve the blanket

SPOILER

00:11:696 (4,5) - try Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

00:20:241 (4) - delete it, real stream is 00:20:241-00:20:332-00:20:423 imo No, I think this stream is fine.

01:10:423 (5) - delete I'll delete this one

01:14:059 (2) - change to note at 01:14:241 Nah, I think the slider there is fine

01:24:059 (4) - blanket will be more better I did that kind of blanket on purpose. I want the slider to be curved more

[Hard]

00:04:787 (4) - x|200 y|136 Ok, fixed

00:06:605 (1) - ds Looks fine to me . . .

00:08:059 (1) - maybe folw will be better No, I think the flow is better if I keep the slider like this.

SPOILER

00:08:968 (3) - delete will better to play and read No, I disagree. Won't the flow then be a little confusing?

00:10:968 (1) - change to 2notes? better to play Nah, no need. I like the two sliders better for something else

00:19:877 (5) - no vol here , delete Ok, deleted that note

00:22:787 (2,3,4) - try Followed your suggestion

SPOILER

00:30:423 (2) - vol( 00:30:605 - ) in slider's middle listen badly I don't really know what you want me to do here.

00:31:878 (5) - ^ ^

01:04:605 (6,1) - bad flow,try Ok, followed your advice

SPOILER

01:14:605 (4,1,2,3) - try Followed your suggestion in a way

SPOILER

01:27:333 (4,1) - maybe 4 return 1time to end ? No, it's better to add a circle there for emphasis.

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

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2015-01-10T08:40:01+00:00

-Actor- wrote: 433l37
~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Thanks for the testplay, but I didn't really change anything.
Avishay is right. You should try to point out the issues more specifically.

-Nya-

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2015-01-10T08:51:28+00:00

Tsumetaku wrote: j69s
HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

★ = Some overall comments

◆ = Suggestions

▲ = Unrankable stuffs

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▲ Black Rock Shooter in TAGS overlap with title... I placed this in tags cuz the title is in caps and maybe players will search for the map like this instead?

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01:04:787 (1,2) - I feel kinda confused on this rhythm since it between at which the previous pattern follows 1/1 and next pattern follows vocal... I think it's fine.
01:10:423 (5) - Maybe u can delete this one cuz on you follow vocal on previous pattern,and it doesn't affect in flow~ (and i feel more suit without 1/2 in here while clicking Yeah, already deleted that note

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00:18:060 (8,9,10) - these triplets touches previous slider cuz to stack setting,u can pull them further to get rid of overlapping :> They're not touching the slider . . .
00:59:514 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
00:41:151 (5) - imo u should keep these more closer to 0.1x or further,because there's only an example like this in this map. I tried something else there . . . I guess I can fix it if another modder complains about it.
01:03:696 (2) - I think the bg drums can little jumps here,try X:120 Y:212,These would be fun I'll rather keep it as it is now
01:04:423 (5) - ^ and X:308 Y:84 ^
01:17:878 (4) - NC at here will be nice No, I have to keep my NC's consistent
01:19:696 (2,3) - Make the ds to 1.1x,looks kinda narrow now. Ok

ag i tried new reply arrangement XD

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

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ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-10T10:21:14+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote: o335j
Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav Thanks for this file!

Easy

00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605 Ok, fixed

00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here Ok, added the whistle

00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2) Ok, fixed that

00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.I used that sound file, but I rather want that clap hitsounds in my kiai time.

No reason to skip this note Where?

00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 - Ok, followed your suggestion

00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here Ok

00:35:332 - ^ Ok

00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg I think the flow is fine. It forms a nice triangle shape with 00:40:423 (2,3) -

00:52:787 - Add a note here. No, the music doesn't really it

00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) - Ok, fixed

00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket Tried my best to improve it

01:00:787 (3,4) - ^ ^

01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat. Ok, fixed

01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow. Followed your suggestion

01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs. I think it's fine, but I will see what other modders say

01:26:787 (2) - ^ ^

01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76 Ok

Normal

00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg Ok, followed your suggestion

00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way. Nah, I think it's fine as it is now

00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's page If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there Ok

00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg Followed your suggestion

So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about. Where?

00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help. Ok

00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players. Well, a Normal isn't really meant for newbies, so I think those notes are fine.

01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap? I think I'll keep it as it is now

00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol) Ok, fixed the claps

01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider. Ok, followed your advice

01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better Improved the blanket

01:23:696 (3,4) - ^ This was on purpose

01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg Ok, fixed

Hard

00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps. Ok, increased the distance

00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section I rather just want them in kiai time

I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) - I don't know what you're referring to

This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance. I think I made a different change there

00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job Thanks!

The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg No change, I think it's fine

01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them I think that slider fits better. The vocals suggests it

01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg I like it. Followed your suggestion

Really nice mapset -Nya-! Thanks!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thanks so much for the helpful mod and the star!

-Nya-

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2015-01-12T06:51:13+00:00

handsome wrote: 483w1s
m4m

[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here. Yeah, ok, Ctrl+G this slider: 00:29:514 (5) - to make the spacing less.

[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here. I think the rhythm is just fine, so no change, and if I NC 3 it will make my NC patterns inconsistent, so no change.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc No, I think the NC should start on 01:16:423 (1) -
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal. Thanks!

Thanks so much for the mod!

-Nya-

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Topic Starter

2015-01-12T08:04:02+00:00

pinataman wrote: 3e2q46
Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1 Ok, fixed

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope Ok, tried my best to fix that

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks perfect to me . . .

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg Nah, not really such a big issue.

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169 Ok, fixed

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1. Ok, fixed
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1 I made a blanket there

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice Nah, I made a triangle shape there

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4 Ok, fixed

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both. I think the flow is fine

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better ^

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it. I changed my clap pattern already since [ Joey ] had also said so.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - . I prefer the finish there
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps. ^
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes. Yeah, I already fixed the clap pattern
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish Ok, fixed

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152 Fixed

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow Ok, fixed

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this: I don't want the pattern to be a straight line. I rather prefer it in a circular pattern
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different. Ok, fixed

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8. I'm not sure if I followed your suggestion, but I made a change there.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^ ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^ I'm going to keep this one stacked
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either. Made changes there

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365 Ok, fixed
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76 I don't really understand this suggestion, so no change
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288 Ok

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better The flow looks fine to me

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2 This explanation is too confusing, but I did make a change

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern Added a drum-clap on the slider head

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail. I think the finish fits the tail better

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4 Made a change there

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap It's not really an issue since it's a Hard but I will see what other modders say as well
Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Thanks for the m4m!

-Nya-

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2015-01-12T10:28:07+00:00

Pappy wrote: 6b1c4a
General

Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word) Fixed the tags

Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>

Hard
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it. The jump isn't that big and I don't want the diff to be too easy.

00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1) Good idea. Changed

00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_; Nah, I think it's fine. It's just one stream.

01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking. Ok, followed your suggestion

01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) ) Nah, I'm fine with how it is now
00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this: Nah, it looks fine as it is now
Here
256,192,54605,6,0,P|277:144|268:107,1,70 
348,98,54968,2,0,P|378:140|414:150,1,70
382,224,55332,2,0,P|330:228|303:255,1,70
Normal

It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :< Np

Easy

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry Looks the same as in the pic, lol

The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!
Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

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ed December 2011

Topic Starter

2015-01-12T10:59:07+00:00

azintairin710 wrote: n4f1t
from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~nvm that

[General]

Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset Ok, removed that file

personally i don't like your hitsounding :3

[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._. I think it's fine, but will see what other modders say
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket The blanket looks fine to me . . .
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion) No, if the circle is there it will help with better flow
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this This blanket also looks fine to me . . .
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow Ok, fixed
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket? Still looks fine to me

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better Blanket looks fine
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^ Looks fine to me
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^ ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat No, change. Want a repetitive slider there
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket? Looks fine to me
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider? Ok, fixed
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket Looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix ^
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal No, not really. I can't let the diff be too easy otherwise the gap between this Normal and the Hard will be too big.
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket The blankets are fine

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3 I'll have to disagree.
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :< Ok, followed your suggestion
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg Followed your first suggestion
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer? It looks fine, but if someone has a suggestion then I might consider changing it
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly Nah, I like that placement
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket The blanket looks fine to me
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg I just lowered the tail of 00:45:514 (3) - a bit
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream It's actually 4 notes, and I think it's fine
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean) Looks fine to me
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320) Ok, followed your suggestion
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad I think it's fine . . .
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket Ok
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note Ok, separated each note

Thanks so much for the mod!

-Nya-

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2015-01-12T11:01:27+00:00

UPDATED

@Milan- and Avishay: Please update to latest version since I changed the tags.

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Easy 3c1s6b

Others jm3w

Rakuen wrote: 414d2k

A's Extra 254hc

General 6t6a34

A's Extra 254hc

Milan-'s Insane 511f5f

Hard 575l21

Normal 6g3l6m

Easy 3c1s6b

Others jm3w

Narcissu wrote: 3rr5d

General 6t6a34

Hard 575l21

Normal 6g3l6m

Easy 3c1s6b

Others jm3w

Narcissu wrote: 3rr5d

A's Extra 254hc

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