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good luck to everyone :3, (i can't play cuz i dont have team :( ) go go UK :3
No Italy this year, good luck and have fun everyone! :3
Topic Starter
I miss Korea
Good luck, have fun everyone :)
thanks same to u
good luck for everyone guys! have fun!

i'm too noob for taiking part, but I hope one day it will be ;w;

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

I miss Korea
I don't.

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Loctav wrote: 5b1v22

I miss Korea
I don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwrCEX1ElJ8
So, how many counties have ed so far ? With all those countries not jumping in, I'm afraid the 32 slots won't be filled tomorrow D:
Topic Starter
We are having issues filling all slots. Considering to change the tourney setup due to this
This is not a good news for taiko community. I'm sure we do have enough players to fill all slots but people tend to focus more about having a God like team rather than getting 3 regular players from the same country :( . Anyway, looking forward to see the teams
Haereticus
So , will the teams come out tomorrow ?

Can't wait to see which countries there are.
Topic Starter
The checkthroughs of all rosters will be done tomorrow. Please finalize your rosters until tomorrow, since all changes will be forfeited later. The checkthroughs are starting then and then I will release a list of all countries that are going to participate. I will try to find an appropriate solution in case of a lack of teams. Don't worry.
Just to be sure (since you posted in the middle of the night): Do you mean we have time to finalize our roasters until (including) Monday or only for the rest of today?
Topic Starter
I mean Sunday, 23:59:59 UTC+0 (11:59:59pm)
wtf only 20 countries? what??¡?
\:D/
Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....
*randomly ing by*

Umm, idk ... To be honest, the hype on us about this event can be considered very low, although Thelma himself said he's still looking for ...

I can't really certain about Indonesia's condition right now, let's just see later anyway (:

Good luck to all participants on this event anyway!
Haereticus
Where did you see the countries ? url plz ;w;
Haereticus
Thanks Nashmun
Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Argentina had a full team, fu come onnn u.u

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Indonesia, Argentina where ? No scandinavian country ? Come on guys....
Here we are :(
Full team as Cyntuu says.

Please can you explain why we get kicked off? why don't you let us play? :cry: :cry:

- Yuuka Niya - wrote: 6m4r2q

Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Actually I'm pretty sure we do have 32 countries with at least 3 regular players. I've seen some players not participating because : "We don't have enough players in my country" even though I could find at least 2 others players who plays every days and has more than 10k PC. But some people just tend to think that if you can't FC every ranked map then you're not capable of playing in the TWC. Unfortunately, this is not giving a good image of taiko community because it has grown since last year but we have the impression it haven't just because of that.
I'm not gonna speak for Loctav because I don't know the whole situation, but did you guys follow the rules for ing? This happened before where some people didn't send a PM to Loctav after ing like is required in the rules.

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

- Yuuka Niya - wrote: 6m4r2q

Sad to see that.
But when A.B team is not allowed. Really easy to be like this situation..

I think it's not easy to have enough countries to attend.Then what will you decide Loctav?
Actually I'm pretty sure we do have 32 countries with at least 3 regular players. I've seen some players not participating because : "We don't have enough players in my country" even though I could find at least 2 others players who plays every days and has more than 10k PC. But some people just tend to think that if you can't FC every ranked map then you're not capable of playing in the TWC. Unfortunately, this is not giving a good image of taiko community because it has grown since last year but we have the impression it haven't just because of that.

are u really sure? Though I haven't calculate before,but maybe u can have a compare with the owc..
Then, though some players have pc more than 10k, they don't want to either, for a not very correct example ,Rokodo?
I calculated how much countries we could gather just with players I already know, and I could gather more than 20 countries, and I wasn't that far from 32. Yes the issue is players not wanting to and some not even being asked because they are not known in the taiko community (ie. people think they don't exist).

About Argentina not being in pending countries, I guess it's because we couldn't gather 32 teams, so they decided to cut off the number of participant to 20, and if you sent your application after 20 teams then maybe you're not on the list. But this is just an assumption, we should wait for the official answer ;)

EDIT : After reading the wiki page, it looks like this is the case. We now have 4 groups of 5 teams and #1-#4 of each group ascend to the knock-out stage. If we could gather more than 20 countries and having to reject some, maybe we can try to gather 24 teams, make 6 groups of 4 teams, make #1-#2 ascend + the 4 best #3. As we have to play the group stage in one single week-end, it will be easier for both part to make groups of 4 teams ?
Good luck there.

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

If the teams really wanted to they could have done it during the given time. Unfortunately the fact is, a lot of country just don't want to participate.
Yeah, you're right.

Anyway, good luck everyone.
Topic Starter
Every team underruns the same check. If you want to change your roster, do it now. Your team hasn't been checked yet, so you can still exchange some . But hurry up. Whenever the check started, changes are invalid.
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Doublepost: I know that you have a different "culture of forum postings", but I decided to remove any post that weren't contributive to any discussion at all. Every post that lacks of a basic content got removed and will be removed in future.
I think the top8 (A-Z)Canada HongKong Japan Korea Taiwan and [?]
Still only 4 validated teams ? Will the checks be totally performed until Saturday ?
can we spec the TWC through osu! or from another website?

Trash Boat wrote: 246e62

can we spec the TWC through osu! or from another website?
I'm sure that you will be able to watch a stream on twitch and spec the players individually.
Yup, matches will be streamed on twitch through the official world cup channel here : http://www.twitch.tv/osulive
Wow, this year's TWC is so fair \(´・∀・`)/

I bet the champion will be Korea this time .

Good job.
-applerss- in the Korea team ? That was unexpected :p . Anyway, interesting teams we have here, can't wait to see the groups.
and Argentina is in. at what time will start the live stream. my timezone is UTC -3
Choco Filled
this sounds interesting :D

So goodluck guys and ofc PH. team still pending i wonder why?
>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
Choco Filled

XK2238 wrote: 5j2t28

>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
i didnt notice they have a new captain as well xD

XK why your team didnt yet? i wonder why,,,

XK2238 wrote: 5j2t28

also


HR AURA 2STRONK
Wut ?

Also H-3 for the drawings if everything is alright \o/

XK2238 wrote: 5j2t28

>mfw no Taiwan

also


HR AURA 2STRONK

looks like this year will be different from recent ones, huh? lol
anyways good luck to all o/
gimme dat free mod
We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
We're up against Japan and ? GG then lolololololololol

Luna wrote: 2t573e

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
oh stop it you hr master
Oh man this is gonna be so fun fdsjafdjsivdvdfvsn

Luna wrote: 2t573e

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
Japan? Malaysia? Lol, +Canada gg wp cya next year :D
whats the live stream? i thought it started today
Hoping we get the songs for group stage posted soon! Want to get practicing! :)

Luna wrote: 2t573e

We're up against Japan and Malaysia? It's last year all over again /o/
ПРИВЕТ, РОССИЯ.
Topic Starter

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

Hoping we get the songs for group stage posted soon! Want to get practicing! :)
I aim to release everything on the evening. Scheduling needs some time :D
What's the final answers about streaming group stage ? Can we stream at least few matches or no matches at all will be streamed ?
Topic Starter

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

What's the final answers about streaming group stage ? Can we stream at least few matches or no matches at all will be streamed ?
This will be decided during the week after some followups and testings
Group Stage Mappool is out. Check out the wiki for it.

Information:
  1. 19 different mappers
    - 2x: climbb65588, Alace, KanaRin, Flower, lolcubes
    - 1x: Nashmun, 31, MMzz, inaba-tan, TKSalt, OnosakiHito, qoot8123, hs714, toara_fict, spboxer3, MoonFragrancy, Reyshel, bossandy, lepidopodus
  2. Genres / singer / etc.: BMS, english, japanese, anime, classic, folk, cytus, instrumental, Hatsune Miku, k-pop, eurobeat
  3. Song lenght: 8 x 1 minute, 7 x 2 minutes, 5 x 3 minutes, 2 x 4 minutes
  4. Using three previous used maps
Mappool contains various maps which requier different skills, such as:
  1. reading finishers
  2. playing streams
  3. dealing with SV changes
  4. beeing able to play faster songs
  5. stamina
  6. slider game play (Map: Kara - Step).
Formation:

  1. NoMod: From easier maps(top) to the harder maps (bottom).
  2. HD / HR: Contains one easier HD/HR map but which are longer than the other maps from their mod bracket.
  3. DT: One slower BPM map.
  4. Free Mod: Should be fair for all three play kinds (NM/HD/HR)
    - 1# Map: 165 BPM
    - 2# Map: 170 BPM
    - 3# Map: 180 BPM
You are always able to PM me in forum new maps. Preferable your own map, since you know how you mapped it and want to show me your best work.
I hope you like the mappools. Good luck to all participants!
Topic Starter
Moreover, the match schedule has been released.
Please consult the wiki page to insight this information.
Is there a beatmap pack for the songs? That'd be nice.
Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
It is supposed to be easy, Luna. :D It is the first round, after all. I agree with Luna otherwise, tho. Very fun!

Luna wrote: 2t573e

Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
everything should be free mod
nomod is so hard
Good mappool indeed, I like those HR picks :) (And omg Burn in the nomod bracket :3)
And I agree with Luna that the tiebreaker might be too easy.

_Gezo_ wrote: 516q3b

ПРИВЕТ, РОССИЯ.
Bonjour, !
When do we get the final rosters confirmed? There's still three pending.
Topic Starter
When it's ready (most likely today)
Stupid map list

as if anybody would ever look at it but w/e
You would pick some shit with a stream all like kkkdkkk fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

also your map difficulty is so silly, Nuclear Fusion is like 100x more easy than the bbn map ;_;

pls fix or am I just really stupid and bad
Ironically enough I find Nuclear Fusion to be the hardest of the maps due to the 1/6 making it the hardest to FC.
Nuclear Fusion is the hardest to Fc while Burn is the hardest to acc imho.

Backfire wrote: 6u6t2o

You would pick some shit with a stream all like kkkdkkk fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

also your map difficulty is so silly, Nuclear Fusion is like 100x more easy than the bbn map ;_;

pls fix or am I just really stupid and bad
Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

Luna wrote: 2t573e

Fun maps, but pretty easy set tbh
Owens and Calamity Fortune should have been free mod imo, they are really awesome on both HR and HD (and of similar difficulty with each mod)
Manima ni = <3, but also a bit too easy for a tiebreaker maybe
Im sure you SSed it with HR before...:/ manima ni
Topic Starter
Finalized all rosters.

Nashmun wrote: 682d3f

Not sure if trolling or just stupid.
You could refrain from making inappropriate comments like this. Some patterns are harder for others. If I find something hard, it makes me a troll?

Nuclear Fusion is INCREDIBLY EASY except for one 1/6 part. Parts like it, are not hard, but just make it inconsistent. Things like bbn are actually hard and kind of inconsistently mapped, possibly because it's not very good, but that's just my opinion. A lot of times, I struggle with hard patterns on slower maps. It's just the nature of the kddk playstyle. ddkk or kkdd don't find it hard, since they don't have to swap hands and play it backwards. I guess I am seriously just stupid though, thanks for teliing me.
all what i can say is that this year is much harder than previous :о
these are all too hard for me :[
All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X

boat wrote: 6059n

All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
+1 for the Burn map, such a pain >:
RIP Burn :( .
Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v

Luna wrote: 2t573e

Burn is fun and a very good strategic pick :v
Hyakki Yakou anyone? Agreed :v Excellent map to sightread on XD
As I said, I'll be working on statistics (pretty simple, but used to only find out the winners of groups :P) here is preview of what it will look like for interested. http://tournaments.hiroto.eu/
I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.

...But if one were to be made up, it'd probably be to close the gap between acc fights and actually skill, which is a bad reason on its own.

OzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.

boat wrote: 6059n

All of the maps should have been put into the HR bracket imo :X
And yyy's (lepi's) BSPower Explosion added.

Don't hurt me please.

boat wrote: 6059n

OzzyOzrock wrote: 2ij5p

I'm assuming there's literally no reasoning for these map picks being miles more difficult than those in TWC's past.
With the lack of new players the general "skill ceiling" keeps rising for each year that goes by and what was considered considered "hard" a few years ago doesn't come close to what's considered "hard" today. In every gamemode, all maps are in general harder than they used to be.
Except for the fact there is considerably less skilled players playing this year, no offense to everyone out there.

Like, go look at least years team and this years teams. Maybe like 12 hardcore, could have won it all teams last year, compared to the maybe 6-7 this year. It is mostly the fault of not letting us have A and B teams or mixed country teams. We lost out on so many quality players.

I was even telling Ono it might be better if he made the maps easier this year. Howeverrrrrrrr another reason he has done this is perhaps because of the format, which is the format of getting rid of a team each week and having us all play over the weekend against everyone in each pool.

It makes sense but it also doesn't. I think this was handled fairly-well, considering.
I personally think you are all underestimating what people can do, even if we don't know them enough. I also think there are more new players that we think, but as they don't show up in forums nor in chat, people just assume they just don't exist. We'll see how it turns out this week-end, but I think it's a good thing to spice up the difficulty each year.

tl;dr : I think.
Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
Oh dear, is there even info on if it's going to be streamed? I'm so bad.
How are going the matches, there are streaming of them? Need info i was afk the whole mornig

TimmyAkmed wrote: 51470

Is there any news about the matchs that will be streamed or no stream at all for the group stage ?
Right now we have a temp solution: http://www.twitch.tv/onosakihito
There you can watch some rounds of the TWC.
It was a good game girls X)
Poland2stronk
Good luck to all teams! :D
restofasia2stronk ;_;

Bass wrote: 5o4i6e

Poland2stronk
Poland can into win
Good game Ukraine, it was a fun match ! :3
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