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Mago de Oz - Xanandra [Osu|Taiko] 3h129

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Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 at 2:35:53 PM

Artist: Mago de Oz
Title: Xanandra
Tags: Sieg -Anhedonia- kazukisinx mancusojuanmattos mancuso_JM_
BPM: 188.97
Filesize: 9663kb
Play Time: 04:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.75 stars, 212 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 1039 notes)
  3. Mancuso's Muzukashii (4.78 stars, 1298 notes)
  4. Normal (4.34 stars, 486 notes)
  5. Sieg's Hard (4.97 stars, 784 notes)
  6. Zukisinx's Oni (4.83 stars, 1818 notes)
: Mago de Oz - Xanandra
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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As a bonus, here's the song in english version: http://puu.sh/70SjX

Feel free to replace the mp3 with the one contained in the map. Although for this one I think youll need to use +10 local offset

Big thanks to Verdisphena for helping with hitsounds!
And thanks to Sieg, mancuso and kazukisinx for their guest diffs!
And New Combos mods are more than welcome (Cause I suck at them)

So, since I think that I should do this, here's a list of every player that play tested this map and gave me their input, and since most of them have gave me some suggestions some way or another (I won't go into details about exactly who suggested/commented what cause there's too many, and in case that they didn't gave any suggestion, I could still see where they missed to readjust the design), so I guess some credits should go to them, and since the majority of them won't post in this thread, I guess this space is right.

SPOILER
Chewin
Doomsday
niko
ShadowSoul
SapphireGhost
Dungeon
S4suk3
Kaoru
-Phenomz-
Gonzvlo
Chiomi
Innocent Key
Metro
Kert
Touche
Mizured
Verdisphena
Cristian
eldnl
Velperk
Nitro
Rucker
Glazbom
Reginald
010101010101010
Ignacio (althought banned now)
Wiinter
Deus Ex
Forseen
Salvage
Darksonic
Sugar
Yue
RLC
happy30
Innocent Steps
-Pikachu-
AND many more that I have forgotten! If you are one of these people that I forgot, don't hesitate to ask me to add you in this list!

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Supuestamente, Xanandra era una mujer muy hermosa de hace mucho tiempo ya, tenía una sonrisa que podía alegrar a cualquiera, podía ver siempre lo mejor de cada uno, era amada por todos y era la prometida de un joven príncipe.

Un día, una vieja bruja invocó un hechizo sobre ella por envidia, y fue así que Xanandra empezó a ver cosas no estaban ahí, empezó a volverse loca, empezó a alejarse de todos sus seres queridos, hasta que finalmente se aisló de todo el mundo, ya que ella ya no soportaba seguir viendo las cosas que ella veía, y lentamente pero seguro, empezó a aceptar esta oscuridad que veía, y con el tiempo se volvió la bruja del bosque.

Pero esta historia realmente no se trata de Xanandra, pero sí sobre la oscuridad que empezó a consumir el joven príncipe que apenas vió a su querida alejarse de él, sin saber realmente el por qué, en su espera de que ella quizás retorne a él algún día.

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Xanandra is supposed to be a very beautiful woman from long time ago, she had a smile that could charm anyone , she could always see the best of someone, she was loved by everyone and she was to be married to a young prince.

One day, and old witch casted a curse upon her out of envy, and so Xanandra started to see things that weren't there, she was starting to go mad, she was drifting away from all her loved ones, and so finally she isolated herself from everyone just because she couldn't bear to see the things she saw anymore, and all slowly but surely, she started to embrace the darkness she saw, and over time she became the witch of the forest.

This story isn't really about Xanandra though, but about the sadness that started to consume the young prince that just saw her go away from him, without really knowing why, in his wait that she might return to him one day.

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Para aquellos curiosos, existe una segunda parte de esta historia en algun lugar en osu :D

To those curious, theres a second part to this story somewhere around osu! But its only in spanish though :D
Last edited by Luvdic , edited 158 times in total.
Cristian
1,945 posts
ed November 2009
Spam
VelperK
1,172 posts
ed May 2010
More spam
pife1
523 posts
ed January 2012
Tu mapa no lo pude hacer.
Creo yo que el BMP es 94.49, el offset lo veo bien, si realmente vas a tomar mi consejo te sugiero que rehagas el mapa
Aunque yo no soy bueno en esto del mod, mi pregunta real estu puedes hacer ese mapa en S
Revengexsoyah
652 posts
ed June 2009

pife1 wrote: 4l3f4d

Tu mapa no lo pude hacer.
Creo yo que el BMP es 94.49, el offset lo veo bien, si realmente vas a tomar mi consejo te sugiero que rehagas el mapa
Aunque yo no soy bueno en esto del mod, mi pregunta real estu puedes hacer ese mapa en S


Derekku
COOL DUDE
7,270 posts
ed March 2009
BPM: 188.95

Offsets: 162 and 57,478 to fix the metronome
Mercurial
Mercurial

VelperK wrote: 442m2f

More spam
huehue
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
ed June 2010
pro map
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
ed June 2010
merezco credito
Bittersweet
2,031 posts
ed February 2010
I know that bg/avatar! Expecting rank in less than a year this time, please :D
Yarissa
587 posts
ed September 2010
Client modded
Kert
2,079 posts
ed June 2009
IRCMod 
11:06 ErufenRito: thought? Any particular pattern that plays really bad? :x?
11:06 ErufenRito: Yeah xD
11:06 Kert: None I can think of right away
11:06 Kert: Let me try again xD
11:08 ErufenRito: xD
11:12 Kert: Most of things I'll mention maybe apply only to me
11:12 ErufenRito: okay, tell them
11:12 Kert: 00:05:083 (1) - 
11:12 ErufenRito: and if I see what youre saying in other players, then Ill consider it :D
11:13 Kert: I wasn't expecting a circle for some reason
11:13 Kert: I mean a stack
11:13 Kert: xd
11:13 ErufenRito: ohhh hmm
11:13 ErufenRito: okay
11:13 Kert: Uhm maybe there should be new combo?
11:13 Kert: 00:05:241 (2) - 
11:13 Kert: On this one
11:14 Kert: Probably that was the reason I didn't expect it. I dunno
11:14 ErufenRito: youre... absolutely right D:
11:14 ErufenRito: I always suck at new comboing :(
11:14 Kert: Oh
11:14 Kert: It fucks up new combos later
11:15 ErufenRito: nah, new combo should be on that red tick D:
11:16 Kert: O
11:16 Kert: I'd say both variants work. It's just that stack that was hard to read for me
11:16 Kert: OK let's see what else
11:16 ErufenRito: thing with that song is that some parts... the down beat starts 1/2 beat earlier... not sure if you understand me :(
11:16 Kert: I do
11:17 ErufenRito: and so new comboing on that red tick, should be the correct way (applies for the other combos as well D: )
11:18 Kert: When mapping I sometimes intentionally start combos at the beginning of the "triplet"
11:18 Kert: if we speak about 2 circles in 1/4 and a slider after them
11:18 Kert: All stacked
11:18 ErufenRito: me too :(
11:18 ErufenRito: I guess thats why I unconsciously added the new combo where it shouldnt be xD
11:19 Kert: 00:55:096 (1,2,3) - 
11:19 Kert: I couldn't read it after the previous combo
11:20 Kert: How about moving it somewhere upper
11:20 Kert: And also ctrl_h
11:20 Kert: And to the left
11:20 ErufenRito: Hmm i guess I wanted to add the effect of "back and forths" D:
11:21 Kert: Yeah I see
11:21 Kert: It was stacked visually on the previous circles so it was hard for me to understand at what time to press them
11:22 ErufenRito: From what I have seen, most people gets it right after a few plays xD
11:23 Kert: Well that applies to everything here :p
11:24 ErufenRito: xD
11:25 ErufenRito: anything more? =o?
11:26 Kert: Looking through
11:27 Kert: I probably suck at reading reverse arrows
11:27 Kert: 02:28:295 (1) - 
11:27 Kert: that means I don't even pay attention to them at all
11:27 Kert: xD
11:28 ErufenRito: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL????
11:28 Kert: ?!
11:28 ErufenRito: most probably
11:28 ErufenRito: Lol :D
11:28 ErufenRito: I mean... theres absolutely nothing covering them :D
11:28 Kert: Yeah but still I didn't!
11:28 Kert: xD
11:28 ErufenRito: Althought thats understandable... if youre one of those player that doesnt look directly at the object you hit (like me :x)
11:29 Kert: I am trying to this behaviour though
11:29 Kert: :D
11:29 Kert: to fix
11:29 Kert: And that's all I guess!
11:29 ErufenRito: Lol
11:30 Kert: While I like your previous maps more, this is still quite good
11:30 Kert: Keep it up!
\o/
Metro
693 posts
ed April 2010
IRC mod. gl.
Touche
558 posts
ed May 2012
uno de tus mejores mapas, felicidades
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te amo :$
Wishy
2,972 posts
ed September 2010
Esta muy bueno el mapa, pero siento que la velocidad de los sliders se queda muy corta comparado con el spacing que usas en todos los jumps, es decir, son muy lentos, o da esa sensacion, sobretodo en los sliders mas largos.
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

Wishy wrote: 205e2e

Esta muy bueno el mapa, pero siento que la velocidad de los sliders se queda muy corta comparado con el spacing que usas en todos los jumps, es decir, son muy lentos, o da esa sensacion, sobretodo en los sliders mas largos.
Es que no se hacer sliders largos, por eso mis maps tienen sliders "lentos" :(
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
huehuehue <3
http://puu.sh/2NWNz.zip
Loooctav
1,070 posts
ed January 2012
i can make Taiko Muzukashii?
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
ed December 2010
:) As requested

[General]
  1. According to new rules you need two taiko diffs. :< rule.txt
  2. Add some tags? Maybe you need tags like Hechizos, pócimas y brujería (have no idea what it means, but it's name of the album)
  3. Offset in Taiko Diff is different, please fix it.
[Easy]

  • I didn't like this diff, because it doesn't looks like actual [Easy]. Let me explain why:
  1. Flow. Flow here is quite weird and may stress/confuse beginners. Beginners aren't used to this kind of flow, it will stress them too much. See the spoilerbox below! I understand, that this is your style, but can't you make it a little it more understandable for beginners?
    [box=Flow in [Easy:87cc0]diffs]
    Blue is the way, how players should read this pattern. It is not so understandable here, or looks confusing for beginners.
    Red is how beginners see your flow. Tail of (2) is too close, so beginners might mistakenly click it.
Diff settings. Personally, I think that they're too high for an [Easy] diff. AR is too fast and other settings are too high, too. Try to use AR3 and OD/HP: 2. Song has fast BPM, so we should make diff settings a bit easier. Rhythm.Rhythm here is quite inconsistent. For the easiest diff of the mapset, it's better to make consistent rhythm. So, beginners will be able to follow it. Try to keep consistent rhythm everywhere, so it'll look like this. Fo example, I liked you rhythm at 00:58:773 - 01:18:143 - this part. It is consistend and playable. Breaks. This the easiest diff, so placing third break time would be a good idea. Beginners need some time to recover!But there's some more things I'd like to point out.
  1. 00:48:294 (1) - short sliders like this one may confuse beginners. Personally, I think that beginners should be able to see start/end of the slider clearly.
  2. 00:55:915 (3) - 2nd and 3rd reverse arrows appeartoo fast, beginners have no time to read them properly.They don't even expect to see here more than ONE reverse-arrow. That's why sliders like this one aren't recommended for [Easy] and [Normal] diffs.
  3. 00:24:160 (3) - some of your hitobjects are overlapped with HP-Bar. Looks messy, so try to avoid overlaps :<
[Normal]
  1. This diff is just a [Normal]. I think you need a third break somewhere in the nd of this diff, players need some time to recover, y'know!
  2. 00:14:475 (7,8,9) - three finishes in a row sound the the way too loud. Try to replace finishes on (7,8) with whistles.
  3. 00:21:620 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - too many 1/1 clicking here, for a [Normal] diff with 189 BPM it's too hard. Try to replace some of 1/1 circles with sliders?
  4. 00:41:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - no. Same as above here :< Also, this combo is too long, try to place NC on (8) to keep comboing consistent!
    Note: it's quite clear, that you should apply (or ignore it) for all similar patterns: 00:46:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 01:39:736 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
  5. 01:15:602 (1) - After all those loooooooooooooong combos, you've got two short ones. Try to remove NC here and 01:18:142 (1) - here to keep comboing consistent?
  6. 01:32:115 (1,2,3) - sudden x1.2 spacing here for no reason. Can you fix it to keep DS consistent here?
  7. 01:53:708 (1) - your patterns are pretty similar, so remove here NC to make this combo a bit longer. So, you'll get consistent comboing :)
  8. 02:06:727 (5) - 2nd and 3rd reverse arrows appeartoo fast. Players don't even expect to see here more than ONE reverse-arrow. That's why sliders like this one aren't recommended for [Easy] and [Normal] diffs.What's more, normally you use only [b]ONE repeat on each 1/2 slider, that's why this slider looks pretty awkward. Consider replacing it with one long slider?[/b] you can try to make this slider curvy, instead (each angle follows 1/2 beat here)
    Note: same happens to 03:09:125 (2) - 03:38:180 (2) -03:58:503 (6) - 04:12:951 (3) -
  9. 02:14:824 (6) - try to place here a new combo. This is end of the kiai, after all!
  10. 02:45:150 (1) - I'd remove thin NC to keep comboing more consistent. It doesn't sound like you need this NC, anyway.
    Note: Same with 02:56:582 (1) - 03:16:269 (1) - 03:25:796 (1) - 03:35:322 (1) - 03:39:133 (1) - 03:45:483 (1) - 04:07:076 (1) -
  11. 02:57:852 (1) - nazi - this slider flows pretty awkward, try to rotate it for better flow. Something like this for better flow.
[Hard]
IRC with sieg 
12:24 Sieg: huehue
12:24 -Bakari-: yes
12:25 Sieg: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/t/128778&start=255 напиши что-нибудь тут
12:25 Sieg: :3
12:25 Sieg: надо захватить новую страницу
12:25 Sieg: как тебе кстати моя дифа, еще не добрался?
12:25 -Bakari-: Не добрался
12:31 -Bakari-: Мне кажется ты переусердствовал с джумпами
12:32 Sieg: да ладно, там их не так много же
12:32 -Bakari-: Просто я бы их где то в районе х2.0 держал :<
12:32 -Bakari-: 00:36:545 (1,2,3,4,5) - ну слишком же :<
12:32 Sieg: а ну это я могу объяснить
12:33 Sieg: это всего 2 раза по сравнению с тем что использовано как базовый
12:33 -Bakari-: и ХП дрэйн 7 используй
12:33 -Bakari-: ну чтоб баланс держать и все дела
12:33 Sieg: да и вообще только инвалит на харде не прожмет это
12:34 Sieg: это же 1\1\
12:34 Sieg: инвалид*
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 Sieg: это же ресет ритма, 1\1 там пробить даже 3х не проблема
12:34 -Bakari-: cлишком короткие же
12:34 -Bakari-: каждый даунбит НК не очень
12:34 -Bakari-: давай хотя бы каждый второй тут
12:35 Sieg: я не силен в нк
12:35 Sieg: а там нк
12:35 Sieg: вспомнил
12:35 Sieg: типо на джамп нк
12:35 Sieg: смена спейсинга
12:35 -Bakari-: слишком спамовые :<
12:35 -Bakari-: давай пореже их там :<
12:35 Sieg: ну зато читается лучше
12:35 Sieg: намного
12:35 -Bakari-: а так все D:
12:36 Sieg: лал

[Insane]
  1. Try to use HP Drain 7 or 8 to keep diff spread more balnced. Hard has HP Drain 6, you should make HP Drain here higher! 7 or 8 would be good.
  2. 00:03:996 (1,2,3,4) - stacking 1/4 and 1/2 notes is kinda bad idea, it plays pretty awkward and hard to read :<
  3. 00:09:712 (6) - consider moving its tail somewhere else, looks too much like part of this stream, so players might mistakenly hit tail of this slider :<
  4. 00:14:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - uhh... I'm not sure, but those jumps have weird flow. How about re-making them easier readable?
  5. 00:20:826 (1,2) - nazi - it'd be more reasonable to stack them with 00:20:032 (3,4) - for consistent flow, don't you think so?
  6. 00:23:684 (5) - combo mods are welcome? - how about a new combo here? To follow vocals and to keep your patterns consistent you need a NC here
    Note: 00:26:859 (7) -01:12:745 (6) - guess what? Same here \:D/
  7. 01:29:416 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - WHOOAAAAA. man, you're overusing jumps or you're overusing new combos.
    Note: 02:26:097 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 02:31:813 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - same thing here but looks cute, tho.
  8. 01:53:549 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - can't you make patterns here more understandable. I'm pretty sure that this pattern is almost unreadable :V
    Note: if you'll do it, do the same thing to 02:37:846 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
  9. 02:55:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I'd keep spacing consistent spacing here. Anyway, don't you think that you need some sliders in this stream to make it more.. playable?
  10. 04:19:302 (7) - place here a new combo to make EPIC finish <3.

    Jumps everywhere. It's your style and I like it!
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Good luck!
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
As I said NCs in beginning helps to read jumps and this 00:36:545 (1,2,3,4,5) jumps is fine for hard because they 1/1 so no change for my diff.
Thanks Bakari. :oops:
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

-Bakari- wrote: 1r12o

:) As requested

[General]
  1. According to new rules you need two taiko diffs. :< rule.txt
  2. Add some tags? Maybe you need tags like Hechizos, pócimas y brujería (have no idea what it means, but it's name of the album)
  3. Offset in Taiko Diff is different, please fix it.
Please, ignore taiko for now, and also I dont think those tags are that needed, considering how unpopular mago de oz actually is, let alone that not many people will find or they will be able to find this map by just searching for the band's name. But if more people insist, I'll add.

[Easy]

  • I didn't like this diff, because it doesn't looks like actual [Easy]. Let me explain why:
  1. Flow. Flow here is quite weird and may stress/confuse beginners. Beginners aren't used to this kind of flow, it will stress them too much. See the spoilerbox below! I understand, that this is your style, but can't you make it a little it more understandable for beginners?
    Well, for starters, you can't really see at this diff as an actual easy, but more like a normal, precisely because of the bpm.

    [box=Flow in [Easy:80b70]diffs]
    Blue is the way, how players should read this pattern. It is not so understandable here, or looks confusing for beginners.
    Red is how beginners see your flow. Tail of (2) is too close, so beginners might mistakenly click it.
This is the way that I like my maps to flow, and yes, Ive criticized a lot because of that by some modders, but I believe that they are okay.
Diff settings. Personally, I think that they're too high for an [Easy] diff. AR is too fast and other settings are too high, too. Try to use AR3 and OD/HP: 2. Song has fast BPM, so we should make diff settings a bit easier.
HP and OD changed to 2, AR changed to 3
Rhythm.Rhythm here is quite inconsistent. For the easiest diff of the mapset, it's better to make consistent rhythm. So, beginners will be able to follow it. Try to keep consistent rhythm everywhere, so it'll look like this. Fo example, I liked you rhythm at 00:58:773 - 01:18:143 - this part. It is consistend and playable.
That part is more consistent because the song's rhythm itself is more consistent, anyways, I tried to make the rhythms as most consistent as I could without making it go off of the song's rhythm itself, so in this case I will need more specifics
Breaks. This the easiest diff, so placing third break time would be a good idea. Beginners need some time to recover!Hmm, I like consistency, will wait for more opinions.

But there's some more things I'd like to point out.
  1. 00:48:294 (1) - short sliders like this one may confuse beginners. Personally, I think that beginners should be able to see start/end of the slider clearly.
    Sliders gone
  2. 00:55:915 (3) - 2nd and 3rd reverse arrows appeartoo fast, beginners have no time to read them properly.They don't even expect to see here more than ONE reverse-arrow. That's why sliders like this one aren't recommended for [Easy] and [Normal] diffs.
    Im sure they are fine, will wait for more opinion
  3. 00:24:160 (3) - some of your hitobjects are overlapped with HP-Bar. Looks messy, so try to avoid overlaps :<
    Im sure they are fine, will wait for more opinion
Although its true that I havent asked new players to test it yet, I will look more into it, and ask some of them to test play.

[Normal]
  1. This diff is just a [Normal]. I think you need a third break somewhere in the nd of this diff, players need some time to recover, y'know!
  2. 00:14:475 (7,8,9) - three finishes in a row sound the the way too loud. Try to replace finishes on (7,8) with whistles.
    Done something a bit different
  3. 00:21:620 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - too many 1/1 clicking here, for a [Normal] diff with 189 BPM it's too hard. Try to replace some of 1/1 circles with sliders?
    I have asked some players ranked at 20k+ this map, and they seem to do okay in these parts, so no change for now.
  4. 00:41:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - no. Same as above here :< Also, this combo is too long, try to place NC on (8) to keep comboing consistent!
    Note: it's quite clear, that you should apply (or ignore it) for all similar patterns: 00:46:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - 01:39:736 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
  5. 01:15:602 (1) - After all those loooooooooooooong combos, you've got two short ones. Try to remove NC here and 01:18:142 (1) - here to keep comboing consistent?
  6. 01:32:115 (1,2,3) - sudden x1.2 spacing here for no reason. Can you fix it to keep DS consistent here?
  7. 01:53:708 (1) - your patterns are pretty similar, so remove here NC to make this combo a bit longer. So, you'll get consistent comboing :)
    All those stuff done
  8. 02:06:727 (5) - 2nd and 3rd reverse arrows appeartoo fast. Players don't even expect to see here more than ONE reverse-arrow. That's why sliders like this one aren't recommended for [Easy] and [Normal] diffs.What's more, normally you use only [b]ONE repeat on each 1/2 slider, that's why this slider looks pretty awkward. Consider replacing it with one long slider?[/b] you can try to make this slider curvy, instead (each angle follows 1/2 beat here)
    Note: same happens to 03:09:125 (2) - 03:38:180 (2) -03:58:503 (6) - 04:12:951 (3) -
    Hmm from what I from the tests, I think that none has missed them, okay, I could ask for more players to test and see.
  9. 02:14:824 (6) - try to place here a new combo. This is end of the kiai, after all!
  10. 02:45:150 (1) - I'd remove thin NC to keep comboing more consistent. It doesn't sound like you need this NC, anyway.
    Note: Same with 02:56:582 (1) - 03:16:269 (1) - 03:25:796 (1) - 03:35:322 (1) - 03:39:133 (1) - 03:45:483 (1) - 04:07:076 (1) -
    All done
  11. 02:57:852 (1) - nazi - this slider flows pretty awkward, try to rotate it for better flow. Something like this for better flow.
    It seems okay for me, will wait for more opinions

[Hard]
IRC with sieg 
12:24 Sieg: huehue
12:24 -Bakari-: yes
12:25 Sieg: http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/t/128778&start=255 напиши что-нибудь тут
12:25 Sieg: :3
12:25 Sieg: надо захватить новую страницу
12:25 Sieg: как тебе кстати моя дифа, еще не добрался?
12:25 -Bakari-: Не добрался
12:31 -Bakari-: Мне кажется ты переусердствовал с джумпами
12:32 Sieg: да ладно, там их не так много же
12:32 -Bakari-: Просто я бы их где то в районе х2.0 держал :<
12:32 -Bakari-: 00:36:545 (1,2,3,4,5) - ну слишком же :<
12:32 Sieg: а ну это я могу объяснить
12:33 Sieg: это всего 2 раза по сравнению с тем что использовано как базовый
12:33 -Bakari-: и ХП дрэйн 7 используй
12:33 -Bakari-: ну чтоб баланс держать и все дела
12:33 Sieg: да и вообще только инвалит на харде не прожмет это
12:34 Sieg: это же 1\1\
12:34 Sieg: инвалид*
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 -Bakari-: 00:00:186 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - 
12:34 Sieg: это же ресет ритма, 1\1 там пробить даже 3х не проблема
12:34 -Bakari-: cлишком короткие же
12:34 -Bakari-: каждый даунбит НК не очень
12:34 -Bakari-: давай хотя бы каждый второй тут
12:35 Sieg: я не силен в нк
12:35 Sieg: а там нк
12:35 Sieg: вспомнил
12:35 Sieg: типо на джамп нк
12:35 Sieg: смена спейсинга
12:35 -Bakari-: слишком спамовые :<
12:35 -Bakari-: давай пореже их там :<
12:35 Sieg: ну зато читается лучше
12:35 Sieg: намного
12:35 -Bakari-: а так все D:
12:36 Sieg: лал
Everything looks so russian!

[Insane]
  1. Try to use HP Drain 7 or 8 to keep diff spread more balnced. Hard has HP Drain 6, you should make HP Drain here higher! 7 or 8 would be good.
    From the tests I have done, most people ranked 600-1000 will fail this map if I use hp drain 6, and since I want more people to be able to enjoy this diff to the end, I decided to use low hp drain
  2. 00:03:996 (1,2,3,4) - stacking 1/4 and 1/2 notes is kinda bad idea, it plays pretty awkward and hard to read :<
  3. 00:09:712 (6) - consider moving its tail somewhere else, looks too much like part of this stream, so players might mistakenly hit tail of this slider :<
    It is intentional
  4. 00:14:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - uhh... I'm not sure, but those jumps have weird flow. How about re-making them easier readable?
    Actually, some players praised those jumps, Not sure quite sure why's that particularly.
  5. 00:20:826 (1,2) - nazi - it'd be more reasonable to stack them with 00:20:032 (3,4) - for consistent flow, don't you think so?
    Intentional
  6. 00:23:684 (5) - combo mods are welcome? - how about a new combo here? To follow vocals and to keep your patterns consistent you need a NC here
    Note: 00:26:859 (7) -01:12:745 (6) - guess what? Same here \:D/
    Done! Except for 01:12:745 (6) - were I did something a bit different
  7. 01:29:416 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - WHOOAAAAA. man, you're overusing jumps or you're overusing new combos.
    Note: 02:26:097 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 02:31:813 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - same thing here but looks cute, tho.
    Well, those new combos are there to make it easier to read, although that part in particular that youre pointing out doesnt really need them, I added them for sake of consistency
  8. 01:53:549 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - can't you make patterns here more understandable. I'm pretty sure that this pattern is almost unreadable :V
    Note: if you'll do it, do the same thing to 02:37:846 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
  9. 02:55:470 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I'd keep spacing consistent spacing here. Anyway, don't you think that you need some sliders in this stream to make it more.. playable?
  10. 04:19:302 (7) - place here a new combo to make EPIC finish <3.

    As for the rest that I didnt say anything, I could say that I have asked many players ranked from 3 (Shadow Sould) to 1000 (You may even say 10.000 lol, but they had to use no fail) to play this map, and I have got lots of input from them, and I have changed the patterns accordingly to the point were the players didnt had any complaints any more (And trust me, many patterns have been changed)


    Jumps everywhere. It's your style and I like it!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good luck!Thanks a lot for the mod!
Innocent Steps
Innocent Steps
te meo
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
ed March 2010
Easy

00:44:483 (2) - Creo que te falto agregar el normal-hitsound aqui
00:48:929 (1) - Este slider esta muy lejos de la nota anterior, pero muy cerca de la que sige
00:56:232 (1) - Se siente como si este slider no siguiera el ritmo, que tal si lo haces asi? https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785141
00:58:773 (1) - El whistle que le pones a los sliders no suena bien aqui, se sienten solitarios:( ademas de que un finish queda mucho mejor, por lo menos en el primero :p
01:54:343 (1) - Lo mismo que te dije de los sliders arriba ^
02:28:955 (1,2) - No me convencen mucho estas dos, es mejor que pongas un slider en vez de las notas, ya que es la unica parte asi en el mapa, puede ser confunso para los noobs
03:25:796 (1) - Lo mismo que te dije de los sliders arriba ^

Normal

00:14:475 (7,8,9) - Aqui se siente como si siguieras el ritmo mal, que tal asi? https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785153
01:27:828 (1,2,3) - Aqui tampoco se oye muy bien, intenta asi https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785157
02:06:727 (5) - Este slider tiene mas repeticiones de las que usaste antes, es muy confuso para los nuevos (incluso para mi) deberias cambiarlo:p
03:09:125 (2) - Lo mismo de arriba
03:38:180 (2) - ^
03:58:503 (6) Extrañamente este es mucho mas facil de leer, ni idea si lo cambias xd

Hard

Seems too hard to be a hard:p patterns like this 00:49:881 could be a pain, also I didn't like the hitsounds, but I suck at this so ...
Nothing else to say here

Insane

<3
La verdad nada que decir, no soy tan bueno como para empezar a nombrar cosas que esten mal D:
Igual me encanto esta diff <3
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

eldnl wrote: 2g1ve

Easy

00:44:483 (2) - Creo que te falto agregar el normal-hitsound aqui
00:48:929 (1) - Este slider esta muy lejos de la nota anterior, pero muy cerca de la que sige
Fixed

00:56:232 (1) - Se siente como si este slider no siguiera el ritmo, que tal si lo haces asi? https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785141
00:58:773 (1) - El whistle que le pones a los sliders no suena bien aqui, se sienten solitarios:( ademas de que un finish queda mucho mejor, por lo menos en el primero :p
01:54:343 (1) - Lo mismo que te dije de los sliders arriba ^
Me parece que como esta ahora, esta bien

02:28:955 (1,2) - No me convencen mucho estas dos, es mejor que pongas un slider en vez de las notas, ya que es la unica parte asi en el mapa, puede ser confunso para los noobs
Fixed

03:25:796 (1) - Lo mismo que te dije de los sliders arriba ^

Normal

00:14:475 (7,8,9) - Aqui se siente como si siguieras el ritmo mal, que tal asi? https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785153
Estan siguiendo los finish de la musica como tal, pero en otro mod se omento de que era un spam de finishes por lo que fue cambiado a whistles

01:27:828 (1,2,3) - Aqui tampoco se oye muy bien, intenta asi https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/785157
Me parece que aqui si suenan bien

02:06:727 (5) - Este slider tiene mas repeticiones de las que usaste antes, es muy confuso para los nuevos (incluso para mi) deberias cambiarlo:p
03:09:125 (2) - Lo mismo de arriba
03:38:180 (2) - ^
03:58:503 (6) Extrañamente este es mucho mas facil de leer, ni idea si lo cambias xd
No cambios :(
Te amo daniel
Gonzvlo
osu! Alumni
2,896 posts
ed January 2010
Gracias por la mencion por todos los test-plays y consejos sobre hitsounds/flow
Cristian
1,945 posts
ed November 2009
Termina esto de una vez >:(
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
ASDUIASTGDUYASGDASUIDASGHDJKASDH ESTA TERMINADA

okno, falta una diff de taiko, ya que tu te olvidaste de mi, pero del resto ya esta listo, y ya estoy buscando mods, otra cosa es que yo no se como buscar mods :(
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
ed March 2010
Ranked
Cristian
1,945 posts
ed November 2009
... lol

Erufen tirame INBOX del mapa pls
Wishy
2,972 posts
ed September 2010
Por ahi simplemente usando una slider speed mas alta quede un poco mejor, osea yo juego el map y me gusta bastante pero esos sliders son como muy corta mambo, no es un cambio necesario igual solo una sugerencia.
BrujoAzul
154 posts
ed June 2012
Vine aqui desde el proyecto de maps españoles, y meh, aqui va mi mod o3o

General
-¿Es tu primer map? Si lo es, tienes un gran talento para esto del mapping o3o
-Necesitas un full diff spread de Taiko si quieres que lo rankeen, creo, ve a comprobarlo a la wiki de osu
-Me gustaría hacer una GD, puedo?

Easy
-En general, los combos podrían ser un poco más grandes, 4 notas estaría perfecto, en mi opinión
-00:31:146 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Ese combo es demasiado largo, dividelo en dos (4 y 4)
-01:57:201 - FADSFASDFASDFASDFASDFS Me encantço que pusieses el Kiai Time ahi <3
-02:49:913 - Ese Whistle, suena mal <_<

Normal
-00:05:266 - No hagas los sliders que hay por ahi completamente rectos, inclinalos un poquito
-00:19:556 (1,2) - Quita (2) y alarga (1)
-04:18:032 - Pon 1 Reverse Arrow más y acerca las 2 últimas notas

Insane
-00:03:202 - Ese jump es muy jarcor y random, mueve esa nota a x = 182; y = 280
-00:03:679 - Pasa lo mismo ahi, haz algo parecido a lo de la otra nota
-00:10:030 - Same here, muevela a algón sitio como x = 48; y = 160
-00:10:030 - Acorta ese slider, si no lo haces, tendrás que mover las notas de 00:11:776 (1,2)
-00:12:570 - Lo mismo
-00:15:110 (5,6) - Las notas anteriores quedan bien, pero este jump es demasiado <_<
-00:15:904 (3,4) - Acercalas a 00:15:428 (1,2)
-00:28:606 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - SFASDASDFASD Demasiado jump, acorta un poco las distancias :c
-00:30:988 (1,2,3) - Demasiado espacio, ahi, y en todos sus copypastes xD
-00:39:720 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No te vayas a pensar que todos los jumps quedan mal, este te quedó bien, y respaldado por la música o3o
-00:42:578 - Eliminala, o ponla entre los 2 sliders
-00:50:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - Las 3 primeras pueden pasar, pero las 2 últimas...
-01:29:416 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jumps :c Puedes darle la vuelta a la segunda linea de combos, no?
-01:36:560 - Acercala
-01:38:148 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Acercalas
-01:54:343 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Demasiado jump y poca creatividad, haz como un triangulo que se hace más grande progresivamente, quedará bien, Imo
-02:17:047 (1,2,3,4) - Haz que sea un triángulo equilátero
-02:39:910 (1,2,3) - Pasaste de un borde de la pantalla a otro con solo 3 notas, no me gusta <_<
-02:50:072 (1,2,3) - Acercalas a la nota anterior, y acércalas un poco entre si
-02:58:169 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - No me gusta muco esa estream, asd
-02:59:439 - ¿Un 1/6?
-03:13:253 - Este combo es muy largo
-03:19:921 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Demasiado jump
-03:24:684 - Combo muy largo
-03:26:907 (15,16,17) - Ese jump
-03:55:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same

Y eso es todo, ahora dame mi cudosu, que me lo he currado D:
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

BrujoAzul wrote: 321q1n

General
-¿Es tu primer map? Si lo es, tienes un gran talento para esto del mapping o3o
Nop, ya tengo varios maps rankeados

-Necesitas un full diff spread de Taiko si quieres que lo rankeen, creo, ve a comprobarlo a la wiki de osu
Lo se, ya mancuso esta haciendo la muzukashi

-Me gustaría hacer una GD, puedo?
No, ya tengo suficientes diffs :(

Easy
-En general, los combos podrían ser un poco más grandes, 4 notas estaría perfecto, en mi opinión
-00:31:146 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Ese combo es demasiado largo, dividelo en dos (4 y 4)
Okay

-01:57:201 - FADSFASDFASDFASDFASDFS Me encantço que pusieses el Kiai Time ahi <3
-02:49:913 - Ese Whistle, suena mal <_<
Quitado

Normal
-00:05:266 - No hagas los sliders que hay por ahi completamente rectos, inclinalos un poquito
Nop

-00:19:556 (1,2) - Quita (2) y alarga (1)
Esta bien como esta

-04:18:032 - Pon 1 Reverse Arrow más y acerca las 2 últimas notas
Esta bien como esta

Insane
-00:03:202 - Ese jump es muy jarcor y random, mueve esa nota a x = 182; y = 280
-00:03:679 - Pasa lo mismo ahi, haz algo parecido a lo de la otra nota
-00:10:030 - Same here, muevela a algón sitio como x = 48; y = 160

-00:10:030 - Acorta ese slider, si no lo haces, tendrás que mover las notas de 00:11:776 (1,2)
-00:12:570 - Lo mismo
No veo por que tengo que hacer eso

-00:15:110 (5,6) - Las notas anteriores quedan bien, pero este jump es demasiado <_<
-00:15:904 (3,4) - Acercalas a 00:15:428 (1,2)
-00:28:606 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - SFASDASDFASD Demasiado jump, acorta un poco las distancias :c
-00:30:988 (1,2,3) - Demasiado espacio, ahi, y en todos sus copypastes xD
-00:39:720 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No te vayas a pensar que todos los jumps quedan mal, este te quedó bien, y respaldado por la música o3o

-00:42:578 - Eliminala, o ponla entre los 2 sliders
No, esta bien como esta, no veo por que hacer eso

-00:50:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - Las 3 primeras pueden pasar, pero las 2 últimas...
-01:29:416 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jumps :c Puedes darle la vuelta a la segunda linea de combos, no?
-01:36:560 - Acercala
-01:38:148 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Acercalas
-01:54:343 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Demasiado jump y poca creatividad, haz como un triangulo que se hace más grande progresivamente, quedará bien, Imo
Pls, cuantos maps con triangulos que se vuelven cada vez mas grandes has visto? y cuantos maps que tenga este pattern has visto?

-02:17:047 (1,2,3,4) - Haz que sea un triángulo equilátero
No veo por que tiene que ser equilatero, por la forma en que estoy viendo el espacio y su distribucion, me parece que ese lugar esta perfecto

-02:39:910 (1,2,3) - Pasaste de un borde de la pantalla a otro con solo 3 notas, no me gusta <_<
-02:50:072 (1,2,3) - Acercalas a la nota anterior, y acércalas un poco entre si
-02:58:169 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - No me gusta muco esa estream, asd
-02:59:439 - ¿Un 1/6?
Si, 1/6 me parecio apropiado, de todos modos no afecta al gameplay

-03:13:253 - Este combo es muy largo
Es largo por que tienen streams y hacen que el numero se vuelvan mas grande, porque si los divido en dos, entonces los combos se vuelven muy cortos, hablando temporalmente

-03:19:921 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Demasiado jump
-03:24:684 - Combo muy largo
-03:26:907 (15,16,17) - Ese jump
-03:55:644 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same

No he cambiado nada, mas que todo porque la razon de "FUUU ES MUCHO JUMP" no me parece suficiente, considerando que ya lo he probado muchas veces, ademas de que eso ha sido mi intención

Y eso es todo, ahora dame mi cudosu, que me lo he currado D:
KokoroStudiox3
1,272 posts
ed April 2011
timing:
bmp: 188.970
offcet 39

las notas del al final queda fuera del rimo por el bmp prueba con este nuevo
y creo que este offcet le queda mejor
vas a tener que resnapear todo x.x

el fondo tiene que ser de 1024x768.

[insane]
00:18:921 (3) - http://puu.sh/3cipm yo tube problemas con estas notas que se salen de la cuadricula y creo es porque casi toca la barra hp
00:18:762 (2,1,2,5,6,1) - no se creoque estas se berian mejor apilarlas o separarlas mas no ? 00:56:232 (4,2) - asi como estas
03:18:333 (9) - aqui no falto el finish ?
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

eLtigreXXx wrote: 2z315e

timing:
bmp: 188.970
offcet 39
El timing lo revisare a mas detalle luego


las notas del al final queda fuera del rimo por el bmp prueba con este nuevo
y creo que este offcet le queda mejor
vas a tener que resnapear todo x.x

el fondo tiene que ser de 1024x768.
Nop, ya que ahora osu! soporta resoluciones de 16:9, siendo la 1366x768 la maxima, y no he superado ese maximo

[insane]
00:18:921 (3) - http://puu.sh/3cipm yo tube problemas con estas notas que se salen de la cuadricula y creo es porque casi toca la barra hp
No esta offgrid, pero igual ya lo baje un poco

00:18:762 (2,1,2,5,6,1) - no se creoque estas se berian mejor apilarlas o separarlas mas no ? 00:56:232 (4,2) - asi como estas
Ehh no, estan apiladas, solo que no estan en la direccion que tu quieres

03:18:333 (9) - aqui no falto el finish ?
Si
Nemis
854 posts
ed May 2012
SPOILER
23:19 ErufenRito: Hey
23:19 ErufenRito: hmm do you mod maps? :(?
23:19 Nemis: hello :3
23:19 Nemis: depends
23:19 Nemis: ./no
23:19 Nemis: ./np
23:20 *ErufenRito is listening to [http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/244704 Mago De Oz - Xanandra]
23:20 ErufenRito: xD
23:20 Nemis: ing
23:20 ErufenRito: you should play it too! :D
23:20 ErufenRito: :x
23:20 Nemis: ye i will try it
23:21 Nemis: ok ahaha
23:22 ErufenRito: i mean, the map is hard. lol.
23:22 ErufenRito: or some parts are hard. :T
23:22 Nemis: wait
23:23 Nemis: ww
23:23 Nemis: xD
23:24 Nemis: oh god
23:24 ErufenRito: D:!
23:25 Nemis: ok i edit only ahah
23:25 ErufenRito: Lol.
23:25 Nemis: wanna irc?
23:25 ErufenRito: sure!
23:26 ErufenRito: Although for sieg's hard, you will have to post it, or skip that diff... D:
23:26 Nemis: i'll post maybe xD
23:26 ErufenRito: and thanks! :D
23:27 ErufenRito: :D!
23:27 Nemis: 00:04:314 (4) - I'd move this at x408 y 312, imo tripled stacked on a beat make players rage D:
23:28 Nemis: maybe mine isn't the best solution but i'd move the beat from there
23:28 ErufenRito: Lol, okay fine, ill move it
23:29 ErufenRito: but not to that place xD
23:29 Nemis: 00:14:952 (4,5,6) - i'd sugget to move (6) somewhere, linear jumps are always hard @@ a curve would be more playable
23:31 ErufenRito: hmm
23:31 ErufenRito: I think its fine, not many people miss in that part either D:
23:32 ErufenRito: Will wait for more opinions from other players about that then
23:32 Nemis: 01:29:416 (1) - what is this nc spam D:
23:33 Nemis: 01:32:115 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - another pattern that i find not fun to play >< i don't really like linear jumps, but this is jump my opinion
23:34 Nemis: 01:34:973 (1,2) - maybe move these beats under a bit
23:34 ErufenRito: qwdfashdgasdj waaait xD
23:34 Nemis: no te preocupes
23:34 ErufenRito: 01:29:416 (1) - that linear spam is to keep consistency with the patterns that comes later, the new combos are there to help readability
23:35 Nemis: they are needed only on the linear jumps in my opinion
23:35 ErufenRito: And about those later notes... I dont think its proper to move them, caus ethey are actually copy paste of the first one, that being 01:29:416 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
23:35 ErufenRito: just in another order
23:35 Nemis: 01:45:134 (2) - i'd CTRL+G this
23:36 ErufenRito: fine ill take the nc out then xD
23:36 ErufenRito: but if i do trl+g i feel the need of moving 01:45:452 (3) -
23:36 ErufenRito: xd
23:36 Nemis: 02:07:362 (3) - i'd remove the clap from the red tick
23:37 Nemis: nah
23:37 Nemis: it's nice to play
23:37 Nemis: if you ctrl+g that be should stay there
23:37 ErufenRito: lol okay then, ctrl+g ed
23:37 Nemis: 02:08:632 (7) - clap on its end
23:38 ErufenRito: that clap, is to keep consistency with the other choruses, hmm...
23:38 Nemis: jk
23:38 Nemis: wait
23:38 Nemis: 02:09:585 (9) - here not on 2:08's end
23:38 ErufenRito: oh xD
23:38 ErufenRito: okay
23:38 ErufenRito: accident, forgot to add it :D
23:38 ErufenRito: Lol
23:39 Nemis: 02:16:571 (6) - new combo maybe
23:39 Nemis: 02:17:047 (4) - here too
23:39 ErufenRito: if i-
23:39 ErufenRito: I mean, yeah, there too
23:39 ErufenRito: done
23:39 ErufenRito: lol
23:39 Nemis: :3
23:40 Nemis: 02:55:708 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - i really suggest to fix this form
23:40 ErufenRito: reasons?
23:41 Nemis: your stream is a banana
23:41 Nemis: http://puu.sh/36a88.jpg
23:41 ErufenRito: :(
23:41 ErufenRito: i still dont understand :(
23:41 Nemis: i'd fix it in this way: http://puu.sh/36a98.jpg
23:42 ErufenRito: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
23:42 Nemis: XD
23:42 ErufenRito: but but... i liked that shape! so no changes for now :(
23:42 Nemis: okay!
23:43 Nemis: 'cause i'd do
23:43 ErufenRito: xD
23:44 Nemis: http://puu.sh/36afw.jpg
23:45 Nemis: 03:21:191 (1) - why drum? d:
23:45 ErufenRito: where? D:?
23:45 ErufenRito: theres no drum D:
23:45 Nemis: really
23:45 ErufenRito: sdkgfasjhgfaskjdfhakjjdfhskjdghdskflg
23:45 ErufenRito: nvm
23:45 ErufenRito: AHAHAHAHHAHA
23:45 Nemis: xD
23:46 Nemis: 03:32:464 (7) - I'd remove the whistle!
23:46 ErufenRito: because yes, thats part of the pattern, and thats not the only place ;D
23:46 Nemis: 03:51:834 (3) - clap
23:47 ErufenRito: whistle stays, clap added
23:47 Nemis: ye i meant to add :3
23:47 Nemis: nice difficulty
23:47 ErufenRito: xD
23:47 Nemis: the patterns are interesting
23:47 Nemis: but really hard xD
23:47 ErufenRito: That was the intention :D
23:48 ErufenRito: Ive been suggested to use ar10 to help readability, but it seems only to work to some players lol
23:48 Nemis: hmm
23:49 Nemis: oh yeah
23:49 Nemis: with ar10 is really better
23:49 Nemis: it's slow for the begin
23:50 Nemis: but ok for the rest
23:50 ErufenRito: I know, but as I said, it only helps some, and it makes it harder to others :(
23:50 ErufenRito: so im like... decided to just go for ar9 cause bats hates ar10 maps xD
23:51 Nemis: xD
23:51 Nemis: i used ar10 only one time
23:52 *Nemis is listening to [http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/234472 DJ Sharpnel - NAINAI 69]
23:52 Nemis: xDD
23:52 ErufenRito: and is not ranked yet!
23:53 Nemis: this map is crasy xD
23:53 Nemis: crazy
23:53 ErufenRito: this... xanandra or yours? xD?
23:53 Nemis: xanandra? xD
23:53 ErufenRito: oh xD
23:54 ErufenRito: well, best replay i have seen so far comes from niko with like... 1 miss and 1 slider break, and it was in his third try xD
23:54 ErufenRito: and theres lots of easy parts too :D
23:54 Nemis: crazy people D:
23:55 Nemis: i want to be pro too xD
23:55 ErufenRito: I want to be too :(
23:55 ErufenRito: this game is too hard :(
23:55 Nemis: xD
23:55 Nemis: i can read AR11 maps owo i play hard difficulties with dt hd too
23:56 Nemis: but in some insanes i'm not really good
23:57 ErufenRito: Lol nice :D
23:57 ErufenRito: i have only ranked one map with ar11 xD
23:57 Nemis: xD
00:05 ErufenRito: Hmm
00:05 ErufenRito: so.. will you mod the other diffs later? or...? xD?
00:06 Nemis: yes
00:06 Nemis: tomorrow
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Gonzvlo
osu! Alumni
2,896 posts
ed January 2010
Por fin puedo controlar bien la tablet, voy mejorando ;)

01:08:458 (7,8,9,10) - Debo decir que este pattern se ve bastante mal y se obstruye a sí mismo, deberías cambiarlo
01:54:184 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - De igual manera este, deberías hacer que cada pattern vaya rotand un poco o algo
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

Gonzvlo wrote: 5x6j4b

Por fin puedo controlar bien la tablet, voy mejorando ;)

01:08:458 (7,8,9,10) - Debo decir que este pattern se ve bastante mal y se obstruye a sí mismo, deberías cambiarlo
Esa fue mi intencion, hasta ahora no habia escuchado ninguna queja sobre ello, si recibo mas quejas, lo considerare

01:54:184 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - De igual manera este, deberías hacer que cada pattern vaya rotand un poco o algo
Rotando no... de todos modos cambie el orden de algunos objetos para que sea "mas facil" por ahora. Si luego recibo mas comentarios al respecto lo cambiare
[Yue]
1,643 posts
ed January 2011
Tu tambien me pediste mod hace algunos siglos atras, asi que aqui esta
Easy:
  1. Sinceramente perfecta!
Normal:
  1. 00:14:475 (7,8,9) - Estas 3 notas no me suenan muy bien, que tal si las reemplazas por un slider con repeticion? suena mucho mejor imo
Insane:
  1. 00:14:475 (7,8,9) - senti un vacio extraño, por eso agrega circulo?
orz
tu mapa es perfecto y no necesita mods
ya es momento de ranked :c
suerte Erufen! aunque no necesitas suerte porque tu mapa es perfecto ;w;
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
no mod for me? ;_;
[Yue]
1,643 posts
ed January 2011

Sieg wrote: 6nb42

no mod for me? ;_;
sorry ;__; your diff is perfect
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

Sieg wrote: 6nb42

no mod for me? ;_;
I know, no one has modded your diff... now ive been insisting everyone that Im asking mod to really check your map xD

Expect Kyshiro''s mod, I explicitly told him that he has to mod yours!
[Yue]
1,643 posts
ed January 2011
Ignoras por completo mi miserable mod :(
vale uwu
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
No lo ignoro, no he tenido tiempo :(

Agregue una nota en insane
atupomaruru
4 posts
ed August 2012
General
* The background image is too large. Largest accepted size is 1024x768.

Normal
00:10:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Consider splitting this into 1,2,3,4 and 5,6,7,8,9; this would be consistent with the combos of 4 leading up to this.
02:40:402 (5) - You might want to start a new combo from here to mark the transition from the flute solo to the guitar solo. Right now the combo is going straight through both without really marking the end of the flute solo.

Insane
00:20:856 (1,2) - If you're intentionally hiding these behing 5,6 of the last combo, I'd suggest making them line up perfectly with those, because they are a bit off.
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

atupomaruru wrote: 206zs

General
* The background image is too large. Largest accepted size is 1024x768.
Since osu! s widescreen, max size has been changed to 1366x768


Normal
00:10:854 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Consider splitting this into 1,2,3,4 and 5,6,7,8,9; this would be consistent with the combos of 4 leading up to this.
02:40:402 (5) - You might want to start a new combo from here to mark the transition from the flute solo to the guitar solo. Right now the combo is going straight through both without really marking the end of the flute solo.
All done

Insane
00:20:856 (1,2) - If you're intentionally hiding these behing 5,6 of the last combo, I'd suggest making them line up perfectly with those, because they are a bit off.
It would be the same, the difference is that instead of stacking down, it is stacking up. So no changes.
geckogates
56 posts
ed February 2010
in-game timing help, great map :D best of luck with it 8-)
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
bpm: 188.973
offset: 375

posting that in case I ever need to revert back if I make further changes in the future. And thanks for the help!
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
I've resnapped all green lines properly, because of new bpm they moved not just only by fixed offset value :3
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Verdisphena
4,240 posts
ed June 2010
inspiring hitsounds blabla
puto ):<
mancuso_JM_
osu! Alumni
4,615 posts
ed October 2010
Amame! :3

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La palabra 'Taiko' en los nombres de las dificultades ya no son necesarios, yo te lo di con el nombre por consistencia, pero deberias dejarlo como Muzukashii y Oni solamente.
Bueno, espero que te guste la diff. y no olvides de agregar mancusojuanmattos y mancuso_JM_ en los tags si agregas la diff. :P
-Kazu-
687 posts
ed June 2011

mancuso_JM_ wrote: tr7

Amame! :3

Muzu! 
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La palabra 'Taiko' en los nombres de las dificultades ya no son necesarios, yo te lo di con el nombre por consistencia, pero deberias dejarlo como Muzukashii y Oni solamente.
Bueno, espero que te guste la diff. y no olvides de agregar mancusojuanmattos y mancuso_JM_ en los tags si agregas la diff. :P
De hecho,le dije al Erufen (yo te digo como yo quiera! >:C) que cuando le des el muzu,que le cambiara el nombre a mi diff por "Zukisinx's Oni"
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
Pls kazuki, y yo te dije que me mandaras un forum pm para acordarme de como debo cambiar tu diff name, y nunca lo hiciste, ya veo que no soy el unico con una pesima memoria!

Y gracias mancu, siempre te ame :$
Pero no lo podre revisar sino hasta como el lunes o martes, o miercoles....
-Kazu-
687 posts
ed June 2011

Xanandra wrote: 112n3o

Pls kazuki, y yo te dije que me mandaras un forum pm para acordarme de como debo cambiar tu diff name, y nunca lo hiciste, ya veo que no soy el unico con una pesima memoria!

Y gracias mancu, siempre te ame :$
Pero no lo podre revisar sino hasta como el lunes o martes, o miercoles....
i <3 u
mancuso_JM_
osu! Alumni
4,615 posts
ed October 2010

Xanandra wrote: 112n3o

Pls kazuki, y yo te dije que me mandaras un forum pm para acordarme de como debo cambiar tu diff name, y nunca lo hiciste, ya veo que no soy el unico con una pesima memoria!

Y gracias mancu, siempre te ame :$
Pero no lo podre revisar sino hasta como el lunes o martes, o miercoles....
No hay apuro Erufen xDD
btw, usa Mancuso's Muzukashii en el nombre de mi diff. entonces :P.
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
ed June 2010
Oni

00:00:218 (1) - D
00:00:535 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - d k ddd d k d sounds better
00:01:805 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - ^
00:03:075 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^
00:05:298 (35) - K
00:06:568 (44) - ^
00:07:838 (58) - D
00:09:267 - dd
00:10:378 (70) - D
00:20:538 - D
00:58:798 (54) - D
02:26:431 ~ 02:40:402 - I don't like this part, sounds very irregular and most of the notes are just randoms dons and kats. You better remap this section

Muzu

Nada, mancu pro
-Kazu-
687 posts
ed June 2011

Verdisphena wrote: 261t12

Oni

00:00:218 (1) - D ok :3
00:00:535 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - d k ddd d k d sounds better ok :3
00:01:805 (10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - ^ ok :3
00:03:075 (18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - ^ I changed the pattern too,but a little different,because i dont like to make this so repetitive
00:05:298 (35) - K ok :3
00:06:568 (44) - ^ok :3
00:07:838 (58) - Dok :3
00:09:267 - dd ok :3
00:10:378 (70) - Dok :3
00:20:538 - D ok :3
00:58:798 (54) - D ok :3
02:26:431 ~ 02:40:402 - I don't like this part, sounds very irregular and most of the notes are just randoms dons and kats. You better remap this section
ok :3, i thought i was a little random ,too ,so i remapped it,i think is a little better now
Thx for modding Verdis :D
http://puu.sh/3OQ5r.osu > Link
PD : ヽ(*≧ω≦)ﾉ ★★ ヽ(･ω･ゞ)
XinCrin
2,845 posts
ed January 2012
  • A special mod for Xanandra ~ :)

    General
  1. Intenta agregar mas tags al mapa , talvez con respecto a la cancion o al grupo

    Easy
  2. Deberias poner un Spinner en esta dificultad , ya sabes , para diferenciar en los puntajes
  3. 00:28:635 (4) Estoy seguro que deberias poner un NewCombo aqui , porque siguiendo tus patrones cortos y por consistencia con lo anterior debe ir uno aqui
  4. 00:33:080 (2) Intenta acomodar esta nota un poco mas arriba , ya que al momento de jugarlo , una pequeña parte del circle se sale del área . Y si la diff es jugada con HR , ese circleserá dificil de hacer clic porque estará debajo de la scorebar
  5. 00:48:956 (1) Remueve el clap que pusiste al final de este slider , no suena para nada bien en mi opinion , deja solo el whistle . Posiblemente trataste de similiar el drum que suena por ahi , pero si lo notas bien , esedrum suena a partir del downbeat que sigue
  6. 00:55:941 (1) Este NC es realmente necesario , podrias eliminarlo . Pero si deseas mantenerlo , no te preocupes . Solo una cosa , talvez un slider con tantos reverses podrias ser algo dificil para los principiantes . No se si podrias cambiarlo . Te recomendaria hacerlo de esta manera . Va a terminar mejor con la musica y será mas facil para los principiantes
    SPOILER
  7. 00:58:481 (1) Pon un Finish en el reverse de este slider , para resaltar mejor el comienzo de este kiai time
  8. 01:17:532 (2) Para un mejor flow con (1) , deberias realizar la curva de este slider hacia abajo , moviendo el segundo sliderpoint a x:320 y:160 . Fluirá mejor con (1) y (3) en mi opinion
    SPOILER
  9. 01:31:502 (2) Al igual que 00:33:080 (2) , intenta hacer lo contrario , muevelo mas abajo , Está por debajo del scorebar un poco
    SPOILER
  10. 01:54:363 (1) Igual que 00:55:941 (1) . Sinceramente usaste copy/paste creo xD
  11. 01:56:903 (1) Finish en el reverse de este slider , resaltará mucho el mejor el comienzo del kiai time
  12. 03:28:346 (1) Igual aqui
  13. 03:58:827 (1) Realmente no me gusta como fluye este slider con respecto a (2) . No da un movimiento continuo al cursor , intenta moviendo el segundo slider point a x:244 y:200 . Por cierto usa Grid level 4 , es mejor :P
  14. 04:01:367 (1) Lo mismo que arriba , pero aqui mueves el segundo sliderpoint a x:372 y:272
  15. 04:03:272 (3) / 04:05:812 (3) En mi opinion , estos circles se sienten raros sin el custom clap que te encuentras usando . En mi opinion sería mejor si usas el Clap en esos dos circles tambien
  16. 04:09:940 (2) Realmente que un circle termine al costado de un slider , asi como lo hiciste en una easy sobretodo , luce muy mal . Deberias mover el circle al final del slider , osea a x:448 y:276 . Me troleaste un poco , con esos cambios de spacing
    SPOILER
  17. El Finish suena bien aquí , ya que distingue el final de la cancion . Pero ese clap , como que opaca el Finish y lo hace sonar , deberias remover ese clap , sonará mejor

    Normal
  18. Lo mismo que en easy . Deberias poner un Spinner en esta dificultad , para diferenciar en los puntajes
  19. 00:09:902 (4) Realmente este slider influye en el flow del cursor , me gustaría que hagas la curvatura hacia abajo . Fluye mejor
    SPOILER
  20. 00:41:335 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) Estos objetos apilados realmente podría ser un poco dificil de leer , no es una easy . Pero seria mejor si por lo menos desapilas algunas notas , estaría mejor en mi opinion
  21. 00:45:622 (7) Este slider realmente no está siguiendo bien el ritmo , tampoco la voz ya que aqui no se logra oir eso :P . Intenta mover este slider a 00:45:781 , y hacerlo un 1/2 slider , fluira y sonara mejor en mi opinion
    SPOILER
  22. 00:45:463 (6) Este circle suena mucho mejor sin ese Clap , remuevelo porfavor
  23. 00:46:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) Como dije mas arriba
  24. 00:58:481 (1) Finish en el reverse de este slider , resaltará mucho el mejor el comienzo del kiai time
  25. 02:02:618 (2) Realmente yo disfruto mas este circle , si lo mueves a x:304 y:92 . Si deseas mantenerlo , no te preocupes :)
  26. 02:06:746 (5) Hmm . . . No haz pensado que talvez este slider con varios reverses , podria ser un poco dificil ? . Deberias intentar de hacerlo , de alguna manera mas comprensible para esta diff :P
  27. 02:35:004 (5) Sé que no es muy necesario , pero sería mejor si pones un NC aqui . Ya que siento que ese combo , está demasiado largo D:
  28. 03:13:423 (4) Me gustaria que la curvatura de este slider apunte hacia abajo . Da un mejor movimiento del cursor en mi opinion
    SPOILER
  29. Sieg's Hard

    In my opinion OD -1 , is better . For consistency with HP
  30. 00:19:268 (1) This slider is ignoring a bit the music . Try finishing this slider in 00:19:586 and then add a 1/2 slider in 00:19:745 . It's will be better imo
    SPOILER
  31. 00:23:555 (3,4) This pattern sincerely doesn't flow too good imo . Could you try it to do differently?
  32. 00:26:254 (x) You should add a circle here. For consistency with other places (00:23:079|00:28:476
  33. 00:36:573 (1,2,3,4,5) In my point of view , this jump is ignoring a lot of music. Maybe you tried to do something fun, but you forget the music :(
  34. 01:37:852 (7) A NewCombo, could be better in this slider. Because here the voice spreads, and a NC here , it would highlight better
  35. 01:48:013 (4) This slider is ignoring, a part that sounds great (01:48:171 ) . Try this , sounds really better
    SPOILER
  36. 01:51:188 (6) Fix this slider please xD
  37. 04:18:036 (1) As in 00:19:268 (1)
Realmente estoy algo cansado :P .
Talvez Insane la modee despues , pero por ahora dejo el mod hasta ahi y te dejo unas cuantas estrellas. La cancion está un poco larga xD
Buena Suerte Xanandra !
Kyshiro
Elite Mapper
1,642 posts
ed January 2011
Hai, sorry that I took so long >: Genuinely haven't had much time
{insert more generic excuses here}

Insane
  1. 00:22:761 (1) - Would be fun if you could make a small square pattern by moving this to x:343 y:336 This makes it slightly easier to hit this jump too
  2. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  3. 01:34:677 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Sure this pattern is fun, but it's pretty much a copy paste of the previous pattern, would be great if you could make something different here
  4. 02:13:572 (4,5) - since you're following the vocals here, it'd be more appropriate to switch these, placing the slider at 02:13:572 - and the note at 02:14:049 -
  5. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
I love this.

Sieg's Hard
  1. 00:08:949 (5,1) - These jumps are way too hard for a hard diff imo, I don't think you'll change this but I would really like to see these jump a bit smaller (The jumps that start from the sliders are generally easier to hit so I suppose they should be fine)
  2. 00:11:489 (4,1) - ^
  3. 00:12:759 (4,1) - ^ Etc.
  4. 00:51:337 (1,2) - I'd rather see this stacked properly
  5. 01:01:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - This curve could be a lot smoother
  6. 01:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Try to move (1) to x:307 y:127
  7. 01:51:188 (6) - Had a hard time reading this while playing, it'd be better to read if you'd make a 1/1 slider out of this, or putting a note at 01:51:188 - and 01:51:346 -
  8. 02:17:541 - Add a note here
  9. 03:22:631 (5) - Would be cool if this slidere were symmetric, the last anchor needs to be in the center of the end circle
  10. 03:28:346 - Add note
  11. 03:28:505 - ^
  12. 03:48:349 - Same here, Maybe add a 1/1 slider instead, or 2 notes, placing the other one at 03:48:667 - ofcourse
  13. 04:10:257 (4,1) - Same thing with the jumps from here, I think it would be better if the jumps were a bit smaller
Normal
  1. 00:00:218 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why is this all copy paste, copying a whole pattern is a bad idea imo
  2. 00:05:298 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  3. 00:31:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ Lacks creativity, feels like you've done this just to finish it asap.
    ^This occurs more often in the song, I won't be pointing out every single thing as it's pretty obvious what's copy paste and what should be changed
  4. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  5. 02:54:372 (1,2) - Fix this blanket please
  6. 03:09:137 (2) - Too unexpected to have 2 repeats, Try placing 2 1/2 sliders instead
  7. 03:24:218 - add a note
  8. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
Easy
  1. 00:10:854 (1,2,3,4,1) - Might be a bit nazi but i'd really like to see blankets here
  2. 00:17:205 (2) - Add a finish instead of a whistle on the slider end
  3. 00:18:475 (1) - ^
  4. 00:59:751 (2) - Feels like all the 1/1 sliders like these in the kiai should be 1/1 earlier, maybe try to vary a bit more, try adding notes instead of sliders
  5. 01:58:173 (2) - This is just a copy paste of the first kiai, I don't approve of this
  6. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  7. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  8. 04:09:146 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
The normal and the easy lack creativity, I suggest you take a closer look at these diffs and consider whether copy pasting whole parts is actually necessary
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
SPOILER

XinCrin wrote: 252i24

[*]Sieg's Hard

In my opinion OD -1 , is better . For consistency with HP
I prefer to rise hp better than OD6\AR8 with OD6 this will be too easy to SS
[*]00:19:268 (1) This slider is ignoring a bit the music . Try finishing this slider in 00:19:586 and then add a 1/2 slider in 00:19:745 . It's will be better imo
This is like transition to next section
[*]00:23:555 (3,4) This pattern sincerely doesn't flow too good imo . Could you try it to do differently?
changed
[*]00:26:254 (x) You should add a circle here. For consistency with other places (00:23:079|00:28:476
But they shouldn't be consistent, rhythm is a bit different.
[*]00:36:573 (1,2,3,4,5) In my point of view , this jump is ignoring a lot of music. Maybe you tried to do something fun, but you forget the music :(
I don't consider this as jump at all just extended spacing, man this 1\1 notes
[*]01:37:852 (7) A NewCombo, could be better in this slider. Because here the voice spreads, and a NC here , it would highlight better
okay
[*]01:48:013 (4) This slider is ignoring, a part that sounds great (01:48:171 ) . Try this , sounds really better
yep
[*]01:51:188 (6) Fix this slider please xD
oh, done
[*]04:18:036 (1) As in 00:19:268 (1)
same

Thanks XinCrin :3

SPOILER

Kyshiro wrote: 4e1a38

Sieg's Hard
  1. 00:08:949 (5,1) - These jumps are way too hard for a hard diff imo, I don't think you'll change this but I would really like to see these jump a bit smaller (The jumps that start from the sliders are generally easier to hit so I suppose they should be fine)
    yep, actually this works fine because this jump on slider
  2. 00:11:489 (4,1) - ^
  3. 00:12:759 (4,1) - ^ Etc.
  4. 00:51:337 (1,2) - I'd rather see this stacked properly
    yep
  5. 01:01:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - This curve could be a lot smoother
    changed
  6. 01:31:502 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Try to move (1) to x:307 y:127
    nice
  7. 01:51:188 (6) - Had a hard time reading this while playing, it'd be better to read if you'd make a 1/1 slider out of this, or putting a note at 01:51:188 - and 01:51:346 -
    aha, this slider was screwed be unknown reason
  8. 02:17:541 - Add a note here
    +
  9. 03:22:631 (5) - Would be cool if this slidere were symmetric, the last anchor needs to be in the center of the end circle
    fixed
  10. 03:28:346 - Add note
    prefer to start on 03:28:664 (1) -
  11. 03:28:505 - ^
  12. 03:48:349 - Same here, Maybe add a 1/1 slider instead, or 2 notes, placing the other one at 03:48:667 - ofcourse
  13. 04:10:257 (4,1) - Same thing with the jumps from here, I think it would be better if the jumps were a bit smaller
    same

Thanks Kyshiro :3

SPOILER
http://puu.sh/3P9m8.osu
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
XinCrin Mod
  • A special mod for Xanandra ~ :)

    Como nota general, mi estilo no se basa en lo absoluto en la fluidez que podria tener el cursor a la hora de jugarlo, o como ustedes lo llamen, quizas mis maps sean mejor si lo fuese a hacer, pero en mi opinion, no. Espero que lo respetes, y entiendas cuando no respondo a tus sugerencias relacionados a ella.

    General
  1. Intenta agregar mas tags al mapa , talvez con respecto a la cancion o al grupo
    Los tags estan para ayudar los jugadores a buscar al map, pero para maps de canciones tan poco conocidos no son necesarios, ya que si lo fueran a buscar, lo buscarian directamente con el nombre de la cancion

    Easy
  2. Deberias poner un Spinner en esta dificultad , ya sabes , para diferenciar en los puntajes
    Cuando mapie, no los vi necesario, y no hay nada peor que un spinner colocados como relleno
  3. 00:28:635 (4) Estoy seguro que deberias poner un NewCombo aqui , porque siguiendo tus patrones cortos y por consistencia con lo anterior debe ir uno aqui
  4. 00:33:080 (2) Intenta acomodar esta nota un poco mas arriba , ya que al momento de jugarlo , una pequeña parte del circle se sale del área . Y si la diff es jugada con HR , ese circleserá dificil de hacer clic porque estará debajo de la scorebar
  5. 00:48:956 (1) Remueve el clap que pusiste al final de este slider , no suena para nada bien en mi opinion , deja solo el whistle . Posiblemente trataste de similiar el drum que suena por ahi , pero si lo notas bien , esedrum suena a partir del downbeat que sigue
  6. 00:55:941 (1) Este NC es realmente necesario , podrias eliminarlo . Pero si deseas mantenerlo , no te preocupes . Solo una cosa , talvez un slider con tantos reverses podrias ser algo dificil para los principiantes . No se si podrias cambiarlo . Te recomendaria hacerlo de esta manera . Va a terminar mejor con la musica y será mas facil para los principiantes
    SPOILER
  7. 00:58:481 (1) Pon un Finish en el reverse de este slider , para resaltar mejor el comienzo de este kiai time
  8. 01:17:532 (2) Para un mejor flow con (1) , deberias realizar la curva de este slider hacia abajo , moviendo el segundo sliderpoint a x:320 y:160 . Fluirá mejor con (1) y (3) en mi opinion Bueno, espero que con lo que dije al principio baste para los demas tambien.

    SPOILER
  9. 01:31:502 (2) Al igual que 00:33:080 (2) , intenta hacer lo contrario , muevelo mas abajo , Está por debajo del scorebar un poco
    SPOILER
  10. 01:54:363 (1) Igual que 00:55:941 (1) . Sinceramente usaste copy/paste creo xD
  11. 01:56:903 (1) Finish en el reverse de este slider , resaltará mucho el mejor el comienzo del kiai time
  12. 03:28:346 (1) Igual aqui
  13. 03:58:827 (1) Realmente no me gusta como fluye este slider con respecto a (2) . No da un movimiento continuo al cursor , intenta moviendo el segundo slider point a x:244 y:200 . Por cierto usa Grid level 4 , es mejor :P
  14. 04:01:367 (1) Lo mismo que arriba , pero aqui mueves el segundo sliderpoint a x:372 y:272
  15. 04:03:272 (3) / 04:05:812 (3) En mi opinion , estos circles se sienten raros sin el custom clap que te encuentras usando . En mi opinion sería mejor si usas el Clap en esos dos circles tambien
  16. 04:09:940 (2) Realmente que un circle termine al costado de un slider , asi como lo hiciste en una easy sobretodo , luce muy mal . Deberias mover el circle al final del slider , osea a x:448 y:276 . Me troleaste un poco , con esos cambios de spacing
    SPOILER
  17. El Finish suena bien aquí , ya que distingue el final de la cancion . Pero ese clap , como que opaca el Finish y lo hace sonar , deberias remover ese clap , sonará mejor

    Normal
  18. Lo mismo que en easy . Deberias poner un Spinner en esta dificultad , para diferenciar en los puntajes
  19. 00:09:902 (4) Realmente este slider influye en el flow del cursor , me gustaría que hagas la curvatura hacia abajo . Fluye mejor
    SPOILER
  20. 00:41:335 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) Estos objetos apilados realmente podría ser un poco dificil de leer , no es una easy . Pero seria mejor si por lo menos desapilas algunas notas , estaría mejor en mi opinion
    Estan bien asi.
  21. 00:45:622 (7) Este slider realmente no está siguiendo bien el ritmo , tampoco la voz ya que aqui no se logra oir eso :P . Intenta mover este slider a 00:45:781 , y hacerlo un 1/2 slider , fluira y sonara mejor en mi opinion
    Es porque estas escuchando los otros intrumentos que yo no estoy siguiendo, y te enfocaste en ellos ;D
    SPOILER
  22. 00:45:463 (6) Este circle suena mucho mejor sin ese Clap , remuevelo porfavor
    Practicamente deriva de la anterior
  23. 00:46:416 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) Como dije mas arriba
  24. 00:58:481 (1) Finish en el reverse de este slider , resaltará mucho el mejor el comienzo del kiai time
  25. 02:02:618 (2) Realmente yo disfruto mas este circle , si lo mueves a x:304 y:92 . Si deseas mantenerlo , no te preocupes :)
  26. 02:06:746 (5) Hmm . . . No haz pensado que talvez este slider con varios reverses , podria ser un poco dificil ? . Deberias intentar de hacerlo , de alguna manera mas comprensible para esta diff :P
  27. 02:35:004 (5) Sé que no es muy necesario , pero sería mejor si pones un NC aqui . Ya que siento que ese combo , está demasiado largo D:
  28. 03:13:423 (4) Me gustaria que la curvatura de este slider apunte hacia abajo . Da un mejor movimiento del cursor en mi opinion
    SPOILER


    Realmente estoy algo cansado :P .
    Talvez Insane la modee despues , pero por ahora dejo el mod hasta ahi y te dejo unas cuantas estrellas. La cancion está un poco larga xD
    Buena Suerte Xanandra !

Las cosas que no tienen comentarios fueron cambiadas en base a tus sugerencias! (a excepcion del comentario que hice al principio) Y gracias por tu mod!

Kyshiro
Hai, sorry that I took so long >: Genuinely haven't had much time
{insert more generic excuses here}

Insane
  1. 00:22:761 (1) - Would be fun if you could make a small square pattern by moving this to x:343 y:336 This makes it slightly easier to hit this jump too
    Well, I'm actually a big copy/paste mapper, and this pattern is actuallya copy paste of the previous one, and the fact that there's a note stacking is part of my intention!
  2. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  3. 01:34:677 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Sure this pattern is fun, but it's pretty much a copy paste of the previous pattern, would be great if you could make something different here
    They are not exact copy pastes, but imo, they are fine, since the previous one is also a copy paste of 01:29:597 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - just in a different order, as well as some other patterns around there
  4. 02:13:572 (4,5) - since you're following the vocals here, it'd be more appropriate to switch these, placing the slider at 02:13:572 - and the note at 02:14:049 -
  5. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
I love this.

Normal
  1. 00:00:218 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why is this all copy paste, copying a whole pattern is a bad idea imo
  2. 00:05:298 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^
  3. 00:31:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ Lacks creativity, feels like you've done this just to finish it asap.
    ^This occurs more often in the song, I won't be pointing out every single thing as it's pretty obvious what's copy paste and what should be changed
    I'm sure they are okay.
  4. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  5. 02:54:372 (1,2) - Fix this blanket please
  6. 03:09:137 (2) - Too unexpected to have 2 repeats, Try placing 2 1/2 sliders instead
  7. 03:24:218 - add a note
  8. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
Easy
  1. 00:10:854 (1,2,3,4,1) - Might be a bit nazi but i'd really like to see blankets here
    I fail at making blankets, so Ill try to avoid that :(
  2. 00:17:205 (2) - Add a finish instead of a whistle on the slider end
  3. 00:18:475 (1) - ^
  4. 00:59:751 (2) - Feels like all the 1/1 sliders like these in the kiai should be 1/1 earlier, maybe try to vary a bit more, try adding notes instead of sliders

    It might feel that way, but I believe I that in the start but didnt liked how it sounded. Anyways, the chorus is mapped as intended (at least object's placement in timeline) as in I wanted to make it very simple.
  5. 01:58:173 (2) - This is just a copy paste of the first kiai, I don't approve of this
    :(
  6. 01:16:579 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  7. 03:26:917 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
  8. 04:09:146 - Unsnapped uninherited timing point
The normal and the easy lack creativity, I suggest you take a closer look at these diffs and consider whether copy pasting whole parts is actually necessary

The rest were I didn't comment anything it's because I changed them based on your suggestions! And thanks a lot kyshiro!
Zare
1,512 posts
ed March 2012
Man this is a great and interesting map. Star for now, I'll mod it when I have the time and motivation.

[Easy]
  1. First of all, I'd raise the SV a tiny bit. If you use 0.7 SV instead of 0.6 SV but stick to current spacing, you can avoid overlaps like 00:04:028 (4,5) - and make make your map a lot cleaner that way
  2. 00:04:028 (4,1) - I'd suggest to make (4) blanket the sliderhead of (1) here. That means: Shape (4) in a perfect curve around the sliderhead of (1), like that:
    SPOILER
  3. 00:10:854 (1) - How about making this a straight slider going upwards? You cloud blanket the next slider afterwards around it
    SPOILER
  4. 00:14:664 (4,1) - perfect opportunity for a blanket
  5. 00:23:555 (1,2,3) - You could shape circle-circle-sliderhead into a triangle to get it more structured
  6. 00:30:699 (3,1) - I kinda dislike this flowwise, how about you change (1) like that:
    SPOILER
  7. If you did ^ that ^ you can make 00:31:175 (1,3) - (3) balenkt (1) Sliderend like that:
    SPOILER
  8. 00:40:859 (1) - I'd place a circle here instead and start a slider where it's current end is. Like that, you can cover the phrase of the lyrics with the slider
  9. Why do you only have sliders in the kiai? You could replace them with circles every now and then, but it looks fine aside from that
  10. 01:50:553 (2) - bend this the other way for better flow?
  11. 02:17:065 (1) - I expect a few beginners to break here because "AAH WHAT IS THAT WHY IS I DON'T EVEN *PANICCLICKSLIDERBREAK* (because it's only a 1/2 slider, by the way, this is difficult to read especially when you mainly have such long sliders in your diff before)
  12. 03:28:664 - Consider removing the slider in a way that you can place a circle here where the kiai starts. A circle always has more of an impact than a slider so it would make sense to use them for kiai transitions
[Normal]
  1. 00:40:542 (4) - I'd replace the sldier with 2 circles
  2. 02:06:746 (5) - I'd say this is pretty unexpected. One reverse arrow is okay, but multiple reverse's cannot be seen during the slider's approach phase and can cause sliderbreaks
  3. 03:39:935 (5,6,1) - sliderend-circle-sliderhead triangle?
  4. 03:58:510 (6) - same thing as before
  5. finding stuff in this diff is hard without screwing your entire mapping concept
[Sieg's Hard]
  1. 00:09:902 (2,1) - I'd avoid such overlaps
  2. 00:19:268 (1) - shorten by 1/2? you're skipping drums there =/
  3. 00:39:272 (6,7) - this looks kinda bad because the slidertrack is so close to the circle
  4. 00:56:258 - a sliderend feels kinda weak here, also, why not adding a finish like on 00:55:465 (3) -
  5. 02:10:873 (3,5) - this looks really weird, care to rearrange the pattern?
  6. 02:40:402 - why didn't you follow the guitar at all here? Would have fit much better in my opinion and less repetitive than the drums
[Insane]
  1. I'm kinda afraid of touching your patterns in this Q_Q However I'm a bit concerned about the length of some of your combos
  2. 00:38:319 (8) - NC? =/
  3. 01:17:849 (6) - NC on this?
  4. 02:08:492 (6) - NC
  5. 02:40:402 - I really hate the overmapped triplets in the part starting here. You can hear they're overmapped and don't feel well while playing. I know it's the guitar solo but meh, this feels unnecessary to me
  6. 02:55:484 - As for the stream IIRC I already told you before that this is pretty overdone IMO. This map is entirely jump based and doesn't require any streaming skills, so suddenly putting a 50-note stream is kinda bad. I'd strongly suggest you to use 1/4 sliders at this point (for example after the first two measures of circlestream), if you want, you could even place slider jumps, following the theme of your map with crazy patterns and stuff
    At least that's my opinion, others who can SS this stream most likely are going to tell you it's fine, but I who cannot stream and who will never be able to do so because of physical limitations always have to view streams in a critical way, I hope you understand that.
Tsk. I can't mod anymore recently. Either that of the maps I mod are too good.
Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

[Sieg's Hard]
  1. 00:09:902 (2,1) - I'd avoid such overlaps
    alright
  2. 00:19:268 (1) - shorten by 1/2? you're skipping drums there =/
    this is better to play imo
  3. 00:39:272 (6,7) - this looks kinda bad because the slidertrack is so close to the circle
    moved a bit
  4. 00:56:258 - a sliderend feels kinda weak here, also, why not adding a finish like on 00:55:465 (3) -
    weak? you mean strong? there is no any cymbal here in music so no finish
  5. 02:10:873 (3,5) - this looks really weird, care to rearrange the pattern?
    looks fine for me
  6. 02:40:402 - why didn't you follow the guitar at all here? Would have fit much better in my opinion and less repetitive than the drums
    I love drums
thanks Zarerion

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0,261,217236,2,0,P|38:311|36:379,1,130,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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183,343,217871,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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29,279,223587,1,6,0:0:0:0:
44,202,223745,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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190,137,224539,1,12,0:0:0:0:
267,155,224698,1,8,0:0:0:0:
339,126,224857,1,6,0:0:0:0:
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479,107,226127,1,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,226444,12,4,227714,0:0:0:0:
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413,162,230254,2,0,B|381:210|381:210|336:193|301:212,2,130,12|6|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
458,311,231207,5,6,0:0:0:0:
389,349,231366,1,8,0:0:0:0:
315,323,231524,1,4,0:0:0:0:
244,290,231683,1,8,0:0:0:0:
165,290,231842,2,0,P|89:301|47:345,1,130,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,163,232477,5,6,0:0:0:0:
285,36,232794,1,12,0:0:0:0:
412,221,233112,1,6,0:0:0:0:
227,348,233429,1,12,0:0:0:0:
79,301,233747,5,6,0:0:0:0:
40,234,233906,1,12,0:0:0:0:
118,234,234064,2,0,B|140:197|119:165|101:134|117:100,1,130,12|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
394,234,234699,2,0,B|372:197|393:165|411:134|395:100,1,130,12|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,40,235334,2,0,P|256:19|316:40,2,130,12|6|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
81,144,236287,5,6,0:0:0:0:
42,209,236446,1,8,0:0:0:0:
52,285,236604,1,4,0:0:0:0:
109,337,236763,1,8,0:0:0:0:
184,342,236922,2,0,P|246:314|306:331,1,130,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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368,103,238351,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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168,219,238827,1,8,0:0:0:0:
91,222,238986,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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124,64,239462,5,6,0:0:0:0:
275,56,239780,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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263,318,241208,1,8,0:0:0:0:
337,335,241367,1,6,0:0:0:0:
148,274,241685,6,0,P|172:222|240:205,2,130,12|6|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,337,242478,1,8,0:0:0:0:
30,314,242637,2,0,P|44:265|25:167,1,130,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,111,243113,1,8,0:0:0:0:
81,67,243272,2,0,P|128:88|227:85,1,130,6|12,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,87,243748,1,8,0:0:0:0:
359,63,243907,1,6,0:0:0:0:
434,86,244066,1,4,0:0:0:0:
491,140,244225,6,0,P|470:186|473:285,1,130,12|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
337,351,244860,1,12,0:0:0:0:
293,286,245019,1,8,0:0:0:0:
283,209,245177,1,6,0:0:0:0:
292,53,245495,2,0,P|363:52|415:93,2,130,12|4|12,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,71,246289,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,137,246447,1,6,0:0:0:0:
331,153,246765,5,12,0:0:0:0:
449,255,247082,1,12,0:0:0:0:
342,368,247400,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,248035,12,4,249146,0:0:0:0:
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Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Man this is a great and interesting map. Star for now, I'll mod it when I have the time and motivation.

[Easy]
  1. First of all, I'd raise the SV a tiny bit. If you use 0.7 SV instead of 0.6 SV but stick to current spacing, you can avoid overlaps like 00:04:028 (4,5) - and make make your map a lot cleaner that way
    Doing this will make some sliders 1/2 shorter... and honestly, Im too lazy to fix all of the sliders just for this.
  2. 00:04:028 (4,1) - I'd suggest to make (4) blanket the sliderhead of (1) here. That means: Shape (4) in a perfect curve around the sliderhead of (1), like that: I see, so thats what a blanket is. But I like the way it looks currently, hope you dont mind that I keep them this way, so for the rest of this that I dont comment anything will be because of this.

    SPOILER
  3. 00:10:854 (1) - How about making this a straight slider going upwards? You cloud blanket the next slider afterwards around it
    SPOILER
  4. 00:14:664 (4,1) - perfect opportunity for a blanket
  5. 00:23:555 (1,2,3) - You could shape circle-circle-sliderhead into a triangle to get it more structured
  6. 00:30:699 (3,1) - I kinda dislike this flowwise, how about you change (1) like that:
    SPOILER
  7. If you did ^ that ^ you can make 00:31:175 (1,3) - (3) balenkt (1) Sliderend like that:
    SPOILER
  8. 00:40:859 (1) - I'd place a circle here instead and start a slider where it's current end is. Like that, you can cover the phrase of the lyrics with the slider
  9. Why do you only have sliders in the kiai? You could replace them with circles every now and then, but it looks fine aside from that
    Well, wasnt my intention to use only sliders, just wanted to give it a very characteristic feel different from the rest of the map, and it just turned out this way
  10. 01:50:553 (2) - bend this the other way for better flow?
  11. 02:17:065 (1) - I expect a few beginners to break here because "AAH WHAT IS THAT WHY IS I DON'T EVEN *PANICCLICKSLIDERBREAK* (because it's only a 1/2 slider, by the way, this is difficult to read especially when you mainly have such long sliders in your diff before)
  12. 03:28:664 - Consider removing the slider in a way that you can place a circle here where the kiai starts. A circle always has more of an impact than a slider so it would make sense to use them for kiai transitions
    Made something a bit different,at least its not starting in the middle of the slider
[Normal]
  1. 00:40:542 (4) - I'd replace the sldier with 2 circles I have my own reason for this slider,to be more precise its a copy paste of the previous pattern (00:38:795 (1,2) - ) so that the two of these actually make a whole pattern
  2. 02:06:746 (5) - I'd say this is pretty unexpected. One reverse arrow is okay, but multiple reverse's cannot be seen during the slider's approach phase and can cause sliderbreaks
  3. 03:39:935 (5,6,1) - sliderend-circle-sliderhead triangle?
  4. 03:58:510 (6) - same thing as before This one wasnt necessary because I had changed the pattern a bit too much to fix the 3 reverse arrow sliders
  5. finding stuff in this diff is hard without screwing your entire mapping concept
[Insane]
  1. I'm kinda afraid of touching your patterns in this Q_Q However I'm a bit concerned about the length of some of your combos
    Well, I did say in my first post that all NC mods are more than welcome!
  2. 00:38:319 (8) - NC? =/
  3. 01:17:849 (6) - NC on this?
  4. 02:08:492 (6) - NC
  5. 02:40:402 - I really hate the overmapped triplets in the part starting here. You can hear they're overmapped and don't feel well while playing. I know it's the guitar solo but meh, this feels unnecessary to me
    They are fine...
  6. 02:55:484 - As for the stream IIRC I already told you before that this is pretty overdone IMO. This map is entirely jump based and doesn't require any streaming skills, so suddenly putting a 50-note stream is kinda bad. I'd strongly suggest you to use 1/4 sliders at this point (for example after the first two measures of circlestream), if you want, you could even place slider jumps, following the theme of your map with crazy patterns and stuff
    At least that's my opinion, others who can SS this stream most likely are going to tell you it's fine, but I who cannot stream and who will never be able to do so because of physical limitations always have to view streams in a critical way, I hope you understand that.
    I understand it, I also struggle with the streams, also, in case you havent noticed, these streams have its spacing much more reduced and most 500+ ranked players can SS it easily (while in the past, I have only seen it FCed like twice) and I did that precisely on your comment
Tsk. I can't mod anymore recently. Either that of the maps I mod are too good.
Thanks for the mod!
ignorethis
osu! Alumni
1,885 posts
ed August 2008
check out the AIMod, and look for a taiko BAT to confirm that your taiko diffs are rankable.

osu standard difficulties look fine for me.

btw, good job on this map.
Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter

ignorethis wrote: 25725q

check out the AIMod, and look for a taiko BAT to confirm that your taiko diffs are rankable.

osu standard difficulties look fine for me.

btw, good job on this map.
If you mean the audio lead in stuff and the letterbox stuff, Ill have to say that its a bug, and not sure why it happens. If you use AImod for the first time: this appears:



But if you use AImod on all your diffs, and then go back to the same diff again, this will happen:



Also, just to truely proof that they are the same (just some diffs):



And yes, Ive been waiting for a taiko bat for over 1 month :(

And thanks a lot! :D
ignorethis
osu! Alumni
1,885 posts
ed August 2008

Xanandra wrote: 112n3o

ignorethis wrote: 25725q

check out the AIMod, and look for a taiko BAT to confirm that your taiko diffs are rankable.

osu standard difficulties look fine for me.

btw, good job on this map.
And thanks a lot! :D
oh, i was never aware that it's a glitch of the AIMod. thanks for remind me :D
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
ed August 2011
Taiko mod req from in game

[Mancuso's Muzukashii]

00:26:412 (128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137) - Just a suggestion for an alternate pattern here, try ddkd dkkddkd. It doesn't change too much and fits the vocals a bit better.

00:29:587 (145) - Remove this finisher.

00:37:843 (185) - Try moving this to 00:38:002, again to fit the vocals a bit better.

00:39:748 (193) - Move this to 00:39:589. Same reason as above.

00:47:368 (234) - This note doesn't really fit that well, suggest removing it.

00:48:638 (241,242,243,244) - delete 241, make 242/243 dk, and move 244 to 00:49:273.

01:08:959 (345) - Add a finisher here.

01:09:276 (346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353) - kdddkd d

01:47:060 (544) - Delete this note. The 1/2 streaming is a little excessive here.

01:48:330 (551,552,553,554,555,556,557) - Lets change this up a little to compliment the guitar better. Instead of this, try what it shows in the picture below:



02:37:544 (800) - This plays better as a don.

03:29:299 (5,6,7,8) - ddkd like you were doing before makes more sense.

03:39:459 (56,57,58,59,60) - ddkd, move 60 to 03:40:253.

03:45:174 (86,87) - Move 86 to 03:45:333 - and change it to a don, make 87 a kat.

03:52:794 (122) - Move to 03:52:953.

03:57:875 (145,146) - k D like you were doing previously, there's no change in pitch or anything so there's no reason to switch to a different pattern.

04:12:956 (225) - Add a finisher here.

[Zukisinx's Oni]

00:44:193 (31,32,33,34,35) - Probably fits better as a kkddk pattern

00:45:939 (47) - Imo this should be a don finisher.

00:48:003 (60,61,62) - kkd fits a bit better than dkd, but both work so your call.

01:07:848 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - If you delete 123 to give some space after the finisher, you could do k d kkddk k d or k d k d k k d starting from 124. Give it a shot and see if you like it.

01:29:121 (79) - Add a finisher here.

01:42:615 (176,177,178,179,180) - kkddk (like you did last time at a part similar to this) fits here better imo.

01:43:250 (182) - make this a k if you apply the above mod.

02:26:749 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - Should probably just do dK dK dK dK here, no need to switch it around.

02:28:972 (63) - Add a finisher here.

02:30:718 (77,78,79,80,81) - Doesn't matter too much here, but I think ddkkd fits better here.

02:37:703 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - Again, dK dK dK dK here.

03:07:073 (102) - Remove this, this section sounds a little awkward with it there.

03:10:883 (134) - Remove this, same reason as above.

03:27:235 (247,1) - Delete 247 and make 1 start where 247 was. It makes more sense for the spinner to start on the held guitar note than 1/2 a tick after.

03:48:984 (16) - Make this a finisher to add a little emphasis to the vocals.

This next one is a bit of a big change but bear with me on it. Delete 03:57:716 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - and copy/paste 03:56:763 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - where the old section used to be. It gives you that nice "k d d k d d k d d k d d" structure that goes along with this section of the music really well.

03:59:145 (92) - Make this a finisher to emphasize the end of this section / start of a new section.

04:15:496 (59) - Missed a finisher here.

04:19:306 (85,1) - Same as the last spinner, delete 85 and move 1 to start where 85 was.
-Kazu-
687 posts
ed June 2011

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

Taiko mod req from in game


[Zukisinx's Oni]

00:44:193 (31,32,33,34,35) - Probably fits better as a kkddk pattern Nah,doesnt sounds well because this 00:44:828 (37,38,39,40,41) -

00:45:939 (47) - Imo this should be a don finisher. Why? Pitch is high because it is a cymbal..

00:48:003 (60,61,62) - kkd fits a bit better than dkd, but both work so your call. I feel it better as dkd since it emphatized the k

01:07:848 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - If you delete 123 to give some space after the finisher, you could do k d kkddk k d or k d k d k k d starting from 124. Give it a shot and see if you like it. Liked more the second pattern you hinted

01:29:121 (79) - Add a finisher here. oh well thx

01:42:615 (176,177,178,179,180) - kkddk (like you did last time at a part similar to this) fits here better imo. I didnt do that lol

01:43:250 (182) - make this a k if you apply the above mod. x

02:26:749 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60) - Should probably just do dK dK dK dK here, no need to switch it around. I really...like how it is...i will...add it if someone else tells me it should be dK dK dK ....

02:28:972 (63) - Add a finisher here. ok

02:30:718 (77,78,79,80,81) - Doesn't matter too much here, but I think ddkkd fits better here. ok

02:37:703 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140) - Again, dK dK dK dK here.same as before..

03:07:073 (102) - Remove this, this section sounds a little awkward with it there.

03:10:883 (134) - Remove this, same reason as above.

03:27:235 (247,1) - Delete 247 and make 1 start where 247 was. It makes more sense for the spinner to start on the held guitar note than 1/2 a tick after.
Didnt noticed it but it could be better if no finish,so i will remove it
03:48:984 (16) - Make this a finisher to add a little emphasis to the vocals.

This next one is a bit of a big change but bear with me on it. Delete 03:57:716 (81,82,83,84,85,86,87) - and copy/paste 03:56:763 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - where the old section used to be. It gives you that nice "k d d k d d k d d k d d" structure that goes along with this section of the music really well. Nice shot bro

03:59:145 (92) - Make this a finisher to emphasize the end of this section / start of a new section.ok

04:15:496 (59) - Missed a finisher here.ok

04:19:306 (85,1) - Same as the last spinner, delete 85 and move 1 to start where 85 was.ok
http://puu.sh/4LXc3.osu link
mancuso_JM_
osu! Alumni
4,615 posts
ed October 2010

Tasha wrote: 4q5r3n

Taiko mod req from in game

[Mancuso's Muzukashii]


00:29:587 (145) - Remove this finisher. but this finisher is emphasizing perfectly the drums, I prefer to leave this as it is.

01:48:330 (551,552,553,554,555,556,557) - Lets change this up a little to compliment the guitar better. Instead of this, try what it shows in the picture below: Prefer to don't use alternate patterns in 1/4 in this diff. In addition, I'm trying to emphasize drums here not guitar, so this is the best way imo.



03:39:459 (56,57,58,59,60) - ddkd, move 60 to 03:40:253. Hmm.. no, it becomes pretty repetitive the map and I personally want to keep some of variety, and I think this is the best option.

03:52:794 (122) - Move to 03:52:953. ^
Everything else have been fixed! Thanks!

Muzu 
osu file format v12

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Luvdic
2,113 posts
ed July 2009
Topic Starter
So this map has gone to grave again... Well, I guess that I have a few words to say this time...

First of all, trust me that I did everything I could and yet still not going really going too far away from my own beliefs. Why I say this? Lets take a look at the current taiko BATs:

aabc271: everytime I ask her he/she is busy

HeatKai: I have asked him like 3 times, and no mod yet... and last time we talked he promised to mod my map....

KanaRin: at first he/she has a weird question queue on which Ill never be able to answer it properly, since they seem to be too japanese culture oriented, then he/she changed to a pm system explaining him/her why the map should be modded, on which I did, and I think twice... not sure.

kanpakyin: fromm what I read from his/her page, hi/she seem to have quit?

Loctav: he's always busy, specially with taiko tournament, I dont really want to bother him too much.

mancuso_JM_: he's part of my map set

MMzz: I it this one I havent asked, but... I guess that it is becausewe have never been online at the same time....

OnosakiHito: it's on his queue for over 2months...

spboxer3: well... his/her page says it all

Sync: same as MMzz

Tasha: I have tried to pm him/her several times to remind him/her to recheck my map... but so far... I have been unsuccessful, be it because he/shes too busy or other thing, anyways, it doesnt really matter in the end, and Im grateful that s/he have been able to check this map at least once

Anyways, as I say, most of the things I did it as far as my own ethics allowed me to, I'm not going to completely change my being just for this map, and I guess thats partly the fault of which I rank my own maps so slow.

I guess that for now its a farewell to this map until a taiko BAT finally decides to mod this map, and even though this map is graved, trust me when I tell you that you can mod it anytime you want, and as soon as you post, Ill revive this, this also applies for any kind of mod that this map receives.

Oh well, Ill just leave the rest to the taiko BATs and the other s that might be more interested in seeing this map ranked, cause as for me, I hae already lost interest after I have been trying to find a taiko BAT for at least 2 months, literally.
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Sieg
3,981 posts
ed February 2012
;_;
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,856 posts
ed March 2010
Tasha modded this map since I had no time to mod it yet. So it's already cool that he take the time for it.
Also don't forget that everyone of us has much to mod, it's an amount you shouldn't underrestimate.
Your map is on my -page and I wrote you a PM, so I will look through it when I have time.

Also you didn't have to wait only for us. Osu BATs are able to osu-icon this set...
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