Are you kidding me?

XPJ38 wrote: 5t1mm

berzerkerbleed wrote: 41185l

Please fix the errors
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Again:

peppy wrote: 73101g

Please report all issues in tech !

Sorry

I really like how the song pauses when changing the graphics settings, and I also like how it looks and the new location.
Although I don't really like having the Osu! splash/watermark at the start or having the loading circle. Before having the loading circle I never noticed the load time but now it seems to take a little while to get the song ready.

nice work

Awesome x3

first

I like this, thanks! :3

I don't care if I rank or not just get ri dof the annoying ass message of black backgrounds.

:3

skibblesx wrote: 3n554j

I don't care if I rank or not just get ri dof the annoying ass message of black backgrounds.

Eventually, you won't even be able to delete BGs when osz2 is implemented. The warning message is a step closer to this.

So for now, stop pissing all over mappers' hard work and deleting them, then you'll stop getting the messages ^^

Hmm interface is sexy. nice Peppy

gj! nice update

Excellent! Thank you for the update, Peppy!

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

skibblesx wrote: 3n554j

I don't care if I rank or not just get ri dof the annoying ass message of black backgrounds.

Eventually, you won't even be able to delete BGs when osz2 is implemented. The warning message is a step closer to this.

So for now, stop pissing all over mappers' hard work and deleting them, then you'll stop getting the messages ^^

Actually, I'm still in the position of having to delete backgrounds... there are a number of maps where turning off the storyboard to stop flashes results in a black background, which I don't care for. So I still go in to remove flashes manually. and in one case recently I found that some of the flashes used the actual background image of the map, so I ended up deleting the background in order to play with a background instead of on an empty black screen. There's some irony for you.

peppy wrote: 73101g

Regarding background deletion:

1. You can now use the visual settings to set background dim to 100% after ing the map once.
2. You can on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.
3. For now, there is a message telling you not to delete backgrounds, but in the not-too-distant future maps with missing files will need to be fixed before they can submit scores.
4. This will likely be an automated process, but the idea behind these changes is to stop you guys from deleting any more content, as fixing existing deleted files will mean a lengthy and cumbersome – especially for large libraries.

This explains absolutely nothing to me. I'm the type of player who plays a map a couple of times, retrying when I miss a note, and gradually improving, so this is going to hurt me massively. This is going to be horrible in multiplayer games where you can only dim ~50% on maps you've never completed before.

Why must backgrounds be forced on us? Can you really not cater for the audience who do not like backgrounds by making 100% background dim available without having to finish the map first? This way, the people who do like the backgrounds can leave it as it is, and the people who don't can dim it. It doesn't even matter if the new default available dim is 100%, it can be 70% or more (in my opinion a good minimum is 70%), just the current dim is way too low for bright maps.

I don't even want to go into beatmap skin problems caused as a result of the missing files need to be fixed schema. I (and many others) have used our skins for very long periods of time, to the point where we've optimized (at least I have) in such a way that it's perfect for us to get the highest precision.

Kuro wrote: 27g5g

Eventually, you won't even be able to delete BGs when osz2 is implemented. The warning message is a step closer to this.

So for now, stop pissing all over mappers' hard work and deleting them, then you'll stop getting the messages ^^

The problem is that we don't have to delete the backgrounds, it's simple for peppy to implement a modification that allows people to dim their backgrounds more without having finished the map once before.

It would be interesting to get a tally of how many highly ranked players actually complete the maps with all their misses and combo drops, and then re-complete it again right after.

Backgrounds aren't even a problem for me except for reading AR10. And honestly, AR10 means that hard rock is on, and why would you play a song in multi with HR that you haven't even ed nomod? If you really can't stand playing a map with BG and skin elements, just rush through it with nofail+doubletime so you can play it how you want.

I don't know, I could have missed something as I haven't been playing osu! in a while, but seems like after this update, the beatmaps skin comes through weirdly even if it is disabled. Like sliders have the hitcircles from my skin and then the normal hitcircles have the skins one. :/

Wait, wat!? Now it is fixed when osu! crashed (I tried to adjust mania fall speed during a play, but I might've accidentally pressed win+ -). Also the crash happened when bancho was down. And it is still down as I am writing this.

wow nice i really love this ^^

i don't know much about technology or other stuff but can anyone explain to me what peppy wrote here: You can on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.

insanity_X wrote: 4w1i5m

i don't know much about technology or other stuff but can anyone explain to me what peppy wrote here: You can on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.

To be able to dim to 100%, you can the map with any mod. For example, you can use nofail, and miss every single note and get 0 score, but the score is still submitted, and then you are able to move the slider to dim 100% on your next attempt.

Being able to dim only ~50% seems pretty useless, because if everyone is just going to be ing songs with NF + DT as quick as possible just to get 100% dim (probably without even trying the map on most maps), it would be much easier to have 100% dim from the start.

smoogipooo wrote: 4a5y4s

Being able to dim only ~50% seems pretty useless

It's 60% now.
Also sometimes the BG flashes at 100% dim, but it's not that annoying, is this intentional or will there be a fix?

And I agree with MillhioreF. I am able to read maps perfectly fine at AR9 and below with the BG, and I still can't read AR10. (so n00b)
Also if the map is too hard for you it doesn't matter if you dim 100% or not. This isn't even considering the possibility that the host may have played the map 100 times already. I don't even know where you're going with this.


In favour of those who claim to be short on disk space: When osz2 does get released you should be allowed to delete videos without flagging for a "re." It's already freely disable-able in options and visual settings already. It would also help things (bandwidth-usage wise) from your end (peppy) if you didn't have to send large video files to players updating their beatmaps because they deleted some things. In almost 100% of these cases, said players will not even want the videos anyway, and most likely have them disabled in options.

I am not one who is short on disk space though, but for example:
My osu! songs folder is 56.5GB.
Searching for "ext: avi" and "ext: flv" gave me a total of 20.5GB.
Deleting those alone will reduce my songs folder to 36GB, more than 1/3 of the space used is videos.

I've seen a similar comparison where EVERYTHING except the mp3 and difficulties were deleted, and the folder was still 25GB+. It makes sense to at least allow videos to be deleted.

smoogipooo wrote: 4a5y4s

insanity_X wrote: 4w1i5m

i don't know much about technology or other stuff but can anyone explain to me what peppy wrote here: You can on any mode – using nofail if you wish – as long as you get a score.

To be able to dim to 100%, you can the map with any mod. For example, you can use nofail, and miss every single note and get 0 score, but the score is still submitted, and then you are able to move the slider to dim 100% on your next attempt.

Not quite... scoring 0 with NF isn't even a , you need to hit at least one thing for that, but that's not good enough here because you need the game to a score and for that you need to score at least 10000.

Ah, i liked this update. But i don't really like the Widescreen background/video . I would disable it in options if i could

RaneFire wrote: 412f1g

In favour of those who claim to be short on disk space: When osz2 does get released you should be allowed to delete videos without flagging for a "re." It's already freely disable-able in options and visual settings already. It would also help things (bandwidth-usage wise) from your end (peppy) if you didn't have to send large video files to players updating their beatmaps because they deleted some things. In almost 100% of these cases, said players will not even want the videos anyway, and most likely have them disabled in options.

Err... You know that you can every map that has a Video without that video? the video is not considered a file that makes osu angry when removed

Love the Update, Widescreen ^.^
Works all perfect for me.

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

RaneFire wrote: 412f1g

In favour of those who claim to be short on disk space: When osz2 does get released you should be allowed to delete videos without flagging for a "re." It's already freely disable-able in options and visual settings already. It would also help things (bandwidth-usage wise) from your end (peppy) if you didn't have to send large video files to players updating their beatmaps because they deleted some things. In almost 100% of these cases, said players will not even want the videos anyway, and most likely have them disabled in options.

Err... You know that you can every map that has a Video without that video? the video is not considered a file that makes osu angry when removed

Forgot and didn't realise that, I just beatmap packs all the time. Sorry

I dont like the update

Nice update, I really like the *new* osu logo when I start a map .

Took a while for all the updates to finish for me.
I personally don't like the new update - it takes longer in the beginning for the map to load, and the new visual settings screen is just annoying, because it's always popping up.
But, if everyone else likes it, then i'm game.

たまにスキップできない　これは仕様なのか？

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 352s2x

But i don't really like the Widescreen background/video .|

Aha, i knew i had a badd feeling when playing. So it was this.


So it zooms the pic and hides details i want to see
If it had to zoom in the pic i think i prefer the black color on the sides.

R.I.P No Video T.T

H_Hitachiin wrote: 2v2x3q

R.I.P No Video T.T

?

You can still disable them through general options, or pausing the beatmap in the new visual settings window.

Yeah, I know but I'm so used to No Video being below Hardrock ;A;

Options -> Disable video \:D/

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 352s2x

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 352s2x

But i don't really like the Widescreen background/video .|

Aha, i knew i had a badd feeling when playing. So it was this.

SPOILER

So it zooms the pic and hides details i want to see
If it had to zoom in the pic i think i prefer the black color on the sides.

Just wait for beatmaps that have actual widescreen backgrounds to flood in.

Loved the custom frame limiter addition, had to tweak it a bit because ingame fps was different from .cfg but after I managed to lock it at ~1000 it was awesome.

Now, it would be really nice if we could set a custom dim color in the skin .ini . (not everyone prefers black BG)

Why not just put an option in options where u disable BG? Dim 100% is just that, but u have to do it every single time on every single map, which gets annoying. Even with this option, the annoying flashes occurs, cant play with that on something that requires focus on other things then the sb.

And whats about the angry message, its useless, just puts 1 sec delay on everything u play. Should be removed.

Playing without bg and sb is CRUCIAL when playing something really hard with higher AR. All ur concentration needs to be where the following hit circles are occurring, and not on stars/text/images flying all over the place interupting ur focus.

Got me in a much-needed logical loop and I won't complain because you're the and that's just how things roll.

Good luck handling the bandwith behind this well-thought out decision.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

Playing without bg and sb is CRUCIAL when playing something really hard with higher AR. All ur concentration needs to be where the following hit circles are occurring, and not on stars/text/images flying all over the place interupting ur focus.

If you can find me someone who's good enough to FC a map with ar10 while having a totally black BG, who is also bad enough not to be able to it with skin elements, I'll accept your argument. Yes, it might be distracting, but why not take 2-4 minutes to get it out of the way? Do you really want to turn on HR on a song you never played all the way through before?

TouchFluffyTail wrote: 323666

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 352s2x

But i don't really like the Widescreen background/video .

Aha, i knew i had a badd feeling when playing. So it was this.

So it zooms the pic and hides details i want to see
If it had to zoom in the pic i think i prefer the black color on the sides.

Just wait for beatmaps that have actual widescreen backgrounds to flood in.

Time to start working on 1366x768 backgrounds \o/

MillhioreF wrote: 2k1855

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

Playing without bg and sb is CRUCIAL when playing something really hard with higher AR. All ur concentration needs to be where the following hit circles are occurring, and not on stars/text/images flying all over the place interupting ur focus.

If you can find me someone who's good enough to FC a map with ar10 while having a totally black BG, who is also bad enough not to be able to it with skin elements, I'll accept your argument. Yes, it might be distracting, but why not take 2-4 minutes to get it out of the way? Do you really want to turn on HR on a song you never played all the way through before?

I've never played AR10 with HR, because I like the challenge (yes, I play a LOT of AR10). I can FC an AR10 map while having a totally black BG, and I cannot it if I don't have my original skin. I can maybe it if I have my skin and 80% dim. I read AR10 much easier than AR9 or below.

Why not take 2-4 minutes to get it out of the way? You mean to play the map with DT + Nofail once just to get 10k score along with 100% dim? How about peppy disables the skip button at the start of maps, and adds another checkbox to the visual settings area to enable it? You'd never complain about that would you?

That's where this whole argument is coming from - having to complete the map prior to being able to dim the map 100% is for us the same as having to complete the map once just to get rid of those extra 20 seconds before a circle appears (on some maps).

Besides, what is the point of not being able to dim 100% from the start? Is there a balance issue where people who FC the map with background are inferior to people who FC the map without the background? Are we meant to appreciate the backgrounds the mappers have taken off the internet? Is it meant to bring more fun to the game by forcing us to annoyingly finish the map first before trying to complete it for rank?

I want to improve at this game, become one of the highest ranked players, if not the highest in the near future. I don't have time to wait 2 minutes to be able to finish a single map - I want to play a couple of times (restart if I miss), and move on, such that I can get more pp.


I'm curious as to what peppy's reply would be if people were to replace all their backgrounds with 1x1 transparent PNG's and 1x1 black JPGs. Would he be okay with it or would he employ another technique such as checking the hash of the background to force us to stare at map backgrounds?

I really Hate the new update
my Osu! feel laggy
now 1000fps before 300fps-450fps
can me cancel the UPDATE

smoogipooo wrote: 4a5y4s

I'm curious as to what peppy's reply would be if people were to replace all their backgrounds with 1x1 transparent PNG's and 1x1 black JPGs. Would he be okay with it or would he employ another technique such as checking the hash of the background to force us to stare at map backgrounds?

You will need to repair your maps if you modify files at all. Please move your discussion to here – OH WAIT, IT'S LOCKED!

sandiwk wrote: 34t5d

I really Hate the new update
my Osu! feel laggy
now 1000fps before 300fps-450fps
can me cancel the UPDATE

Try restarting your PC and checking for any recent hardware/software changes. Make sure nothing else is using your U. Nothing has changed that should affect performance.

MillhioreF wrote: 2k1855

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

Playing without bg and sb is CRUCIAL when playing something really hard with higher AR. All ur concentration needs to be where the following hit circles are occurring, and not on stars/text/images flying all over the place interupting ur focus.

If you can find me someone who's good enough to FC a map with ar10 while having a totally black BG, who is also bad enough not to be able to it with skin elements, I'll accept your argument. Yes, it might be distracting, but why not take 2-4 minutes to get it out of the way? Do you really want to turn on HR on a song you never played all the way through before?

bad enough to not be able to it without skin elements (why dont u tell cookiezi/niko/rucker/silvia they are bad for playing on a black BG.)? Its a preference, and a black background lets u concentrate a lot more on what matters, rather than on some kooky BG/SB. it takes like ~10-20 secs to delete the bg, I already did it with every single map. This has nothing to do with hr/dt/hd or any mods for that matter, my hit circles are barely visible on colorful background, because the hit circles are used to play hidden with. I wont change them, and its really hard to play with them on a standard BG/SB. This goes for almost any "good" skin, hitcircles are transparent so u can see through them while playing hidden. This is also crucial...

>60% dim
Ain't nobody got time for that. Why not just put the 100% there already?

Are players suppose to be forced into games now in multiplayer even though they didn't click ready?
If it is, then that combination isn't doing too well with the new location of the visual setting.

I've had a player that went afk when I force started without him, but his cursor was left at where the visual settings are, so the game got hold up for a good 5 minutes.

rickyboi wrote: 1z2y1b

>60% dim
Ain't nobody got time for that. Why not just put the 100% there already?

I think the same. Being forced to play the map once before dimming and removing elements is stupid. If I'd map something, sincerely, I wouldn't give a shit of who deletes my elements. Map elements are made for people who want to enjoy them. Forcing everyone to see your work is dumb and annoying for who doesn't want to see it.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

bad enough to not be able to it without skin elements (why dont u tell cookiezi/niko/rucker/silvia they are bad for playing on a black BG.)? Its a preference, and a black background lets u concentrate a lot more on what matters, rather than on some kooky BG/SB. it takes like ~10-20 secs to delete the bg, I already did it with every single map. This has nothing to do with hr/dt/hd or any mods for that matter, my hit circles are barely visible on colorful background, because the hit circles are used to play hidden with. I wont change them, and its really hard to play with them on a standard BG/SB. This goes for almost any "good" skin, hitcircles are transparent so u can see through them while playing hidden. This is also crucial...

what he meant is the following:

You won't try to FC an AR10 High BPM Map at the first try anyway, so you can just play it the first time with BG and SB. After playing the map once you know which mods you can use (if you can use mods at all) and still FC/SS the map. Then, when you try to get your rank, you can disable the map elemets you don't want.

And, if you're really able to FC such a map, you should be able to AT LEAST it even though you use transparent circles and have BG enabled. If not, use another skin for the first try.

If mappers' effort on storyboard is a great consideration, at least allow maps where there are no SB elements detected, to allow for 100% dim from the start. BG's involve very little effort from the mapper, and I don't see a considerable amount of intention in "the way it's meant to be played" either.

I had used a custom skin for a while that made playing on coloured BG's easier. Now that I can dim stuff, my skin is annoying on a black BG and I had to update it, but overall I play more consistent on a black BG right from the get go, despite having played on map default BG's for the past year and a half. I don't think there is anything to get adjusted to, or learn to deal with, black BG is simply better for consistency, as has been said many times.

I can understand allowing the mapper's hard work of a storyboard to be seen on the first play, and I'm perfectly fine with this, because it has its own valid reason, even if people disagree, but for a plain quick-pick background, I don't.

peppy wrote: 73101g

smoogipooo wrote: 4a5y4s

I'm curious as to what peppy's reply would be if people were to replace all their backgrounds with 1x1 transparent PNG's and 1x1 black JPGs. Would he be okay with it or would he employ another technique such as checking the hash of the background to force us to stare at map backgrounds?

You will need to repair your maps if you modify files at all. Please move your discussion to here – OH WAIT, IT'S LOCKED!

sandiwk wrote: 34t5d

I really Hate the new update
my Osu! feel laggy
now 1000fps before 300fps-450fps
can me cancel the UPDATE

Try restarting your PC and checking for any recent hardware/software changes. Make sure nothing else is using your U. Nothing has changed that should affect performance.

me only open Osu!

Is there a way to remove the popping up visual settings at the beginning of beatmaps? I find it annoying sorry :s

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

what he meant is the following:

You won't try to FC an AR10 High BPM Map at the first try anyway, so you can just play it the first time with BG and SB. After playing the map once you know which mods you can use (if you can use mods at all) and still FC/SS the map. Then, when you try to get your rank, you can disable the map elemets you don't want.

And, if you're really able to FC such a map, you should be able to AT LEAST it even though you use transparent circles and have BG enabled. If not, use another skin for the first try.

normally I play the first 10 seconds to deem difficulty (also looking at the scoreboard helps)

this system nice!

but my osu! become some lag QAQ

osu! seems more laggy as I come back for Christmas
I didn't have this issue before

btw the scorebar didn't refill at the initial
it goes straight filled after I have pressed the "Retry" button

Deleting backgrounds makes osu! ANGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
Please use the "Background Dim" setting instead.

Okay...

very Nice...

http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/539426

BPM: 210-215|176

What does it mean?

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

bad enough to not be able to it without skin elements (why dont u tell cookiezi/niko/rucker/silvia they are bad for playing on a black BG.)? Its a preference, and a black background lets u concentrate a lot more on what matters, rather than on some kooky BG/SB. it takes like ~10-20 secs to delete the bg, I already did it with every single map. This has nothing to do with hr/dt/hd or any mods for that matter, my hit circles are barely visible on colorful background, because the hit circles are used to play hidden with. I wont change them, and its really hard to play with them on a standard BG/SB. This goes for almost any "good" skin, hitcircles are transparent so u can see through them while playing hidden. This is also crucial...

what he meant is the following:

You won't try to FC an AR10 High BPM Map at the first try anyway, so you can just play it the first time with BG and SB. After playing the map once you know which mods you can use (if you can use mods at all) and still FC/SS the map. Then, when you try to get your rank, you can disable the map elemets you don't want.

And, if you're really able to FC such a map, you should be able to AT LEAST it even though you use transparent circles and have BG enabled. If not, use another skin for the first try.

Does not matter what he ment, this is a bad idea/concept to implement in the game.
Its a waste of time playing it with BG/SB, because u wont do good anyway. + If ur grinding random new maps with hd/hr or hd/dt its impossible to play with SB/BG. What if u are having problems ing a map with SB/BG, because of the SB/BG, that u would otherwise have less problems with while using your own skin and no bg. Dont say nofail/DT through, because that kills ur accuracy. Just make it insta dimm...


Imagine ing all the content again for 40k+ maps, thats a lot of fun aswell. This decision just goes against all logic hahaha....

NF+DT doesn't even count as a play...

Jordan wrote: 3r3s3g

NF+DT doesn't even count as a play...

It does, but you have to get at least 50-60% accuracy. This was added around the time Fun Spoiler was, and it's very annoying to not have your score submit in such circumstances.

You don't need 50-60% accuracy. You do need to play, though.

Not that I want to complain but is it normal that if you play multiplayer that you'll only see who won at the end and your score, nothing else?

Stop complaining about what you don't get, and just be happy about what you get.

Can't deal with playing through a map once? Use nf+dt, learn to play with bg, or just quit. Playing osu! was never supposed to be on a black background anyway.

мда зашибись, новое обновление на широкоэкранки неиграбельно почти полностью - откатываюсь на предыдущее

CXu wrote: 344051

Stop complaining about what you don't get, and just be happy about what you get.

Can't deal with playing through a map once? Use nf+dt, learn to play with bg, or just quit. Playing osu! was never supposed to be on a black background anyway.

Why not complain? Nothing is perfect, people will always complain, deal with that. Does not matter what it was supposed to be, its a matter of whats best and whats not best, black background is by far the best to play with. aka better performance which is everything...

Which isn't everything*

Fix'd.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

CXu wrote: 344051

Stop complaining about what you don't get, and just be happy about what you get.

Can't deal with playing through a map once? Use nf+dt, learn to play with bg, or just quit. Playing osu! was never supposed to be on a black background anyway.

Why not complain? Nothing is perfect, people will always complain, deal with that. Does not matter what it was supposed to be, its a matter of whats best and whats not best, black background is by far the best to play with. aka better performance which is everything...

It's not all about that. Some people just play to have fun and like seeing the backgrounds and themes. Why pile everyone into one group? We aren't all alike.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

CXu wrote: 344051

Stop complaining about what you don't get, and just be happy about what you get.

Can't deal with playing through a map once? Use nf+dt, learn to play with bg, or just quit. Playing osu! was never supposed to be on a black background anyway.

Why not complain? Nothing is perfect, people will always complain, deal with that. Does not matter what it was supposed to be, its a matter of whats best and whats not best, black background is by far the best to play with. aka better performance which is everything...

Why complain? Nothing is getting changed, you will continue to look like a brat, deal with that. Does not matter what you want, its a matter of whats best and whats not best, and for the majority* a pretty background is by far the best to play with. aka peppy makes this game so his will is everything...

*This is true, BTW. The super hardcore are a minority.

EDIT: For real, though, you're acting like doing a NoFail run for each map you will kill you - you only need to play for like 10 seconds for it to count, right? If you can't even do that with BGs because of your skins then maybe your skin is a tad *too* transparent? : P

waluigino1 wrote: 4k486u

Why pile everyone into one group? We aren't all alike.

Same for the people who DON'T want to play seeing backgrounds and themes.

That's my point though. Some don't want to see the BG's. Some do. And some don't care if the song has one or not. The post I replied to grouped everyone into the first group which in reality isn't the truth.

I find it really funny that only mappers and random rank 100k+ players s this hahaha.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

CXu wrote: 344051

Stop complaining about what you don't get, and just be happy about what you get.

Can't deal with playing through a map once? Use nf+dt, learn to play with bg, or just quit. Playing osu! was never supposed to be on a black background anyway.

Why not complain? Nothing is perfect, people will always complain, deal with that. Does not matter what it was supposed to be, its a matter of whats best and whats not best, black background is by far the best to play with. aka better performance which is everything...

absolutely right

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

I find it really funny that only mappers and random rank 100k+ players s this hahaha.

ikr.

Not everyone's playing for top ranks. I for one play for relaxation so bg/video/sb are very important elements that accompany the song and hold a great map together.

You're given the option to disable all those elements after 1 play anyway if you want to go for top ranks.

The new update is great!

peppy, something i meant to talk to you about the fun spoiler, but i'm away from home right now, and i know i'll forget again. The 'fun spoiler' should not be 'up' when the song starts. It's slightly annoying to have to move the cursor away from it at the start of every map, especially when I'm not even using the mouse (Mania mode). Great patch other than that.

EDIT: Or maybe if it just went away after a second or so if you don't move the cursor.

Jordan wrote: 3r3s3g

rickyboi wrote: 1z2y1b

>60% dim
Ain't nobody got time for that. Why not just put the 100% there already?

I think the same. Being forced to play the map once before dimming and removing elements is stupid. If I'd map something, sincerely, I wouldn't give a shit of who deletes my elements. Map elements are made for people who want to enjoy them. Forcing everyone to see your work is dumb and annoying for who doesn't want to see it.

That's a tiny bit harsh, but I do agree. I noticed almost everyone is talking about backgrounds and for me it doesn't even matter. The only element I "keep" in the folders are the 'hitcircle.png' files because for me, those are what make each song unique. Now let's say I do beat a map once and disable background + force my own skin on the song. Well what do I do about the 'hitcircle.png' files now? Now I have a ton of songs that have the exact same circles to hit. kind of makes the game boring in my opinion.
I'm not going to quit for something so trivial but it is a let down to be forced into this, specifically since I subscribed for a year before the update.

What does Peppy mean by "osu! might EXPLODE"?

DevianteBrent wrote: 2r2b1

What does Peppy mean by "osu! might EXPLODE"?

Osu! might crash (stop working).

Nice =D

100% Bg dim is not really 100% but a little bit less than 100%, and kiai time flashes make bg re-appear for istances, it's still really disturbing

119410501 wrote: o134

100% Bg dim is not really 100% but a little bit less than 100%

No. It's black. Unless you didn't the map yet.

119410501 wrote: o134

kiai time flashes make bg re-appear for istances, it's still really disturbing

You only see it for like 0.5 seconds. It's not disurbing, I sometimes dont even notice.

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

119410501 wrote: o134

100% Bg dim is not really 100% but a little bit less than 100%

No. It's black. Unless you didn't the map yet.

It's not 100%, I think it's around 95-98% because I can see the bg even if it's hard.

peppy wrote: 73101g

H_Hitachiin wrote: 2v2x3q

Yay
I still miss No Video mod though...

You can disable video from the visual settings .

I understand some ppl(like myself) prefer to play without an annoying/distracting video in the BG, when playing any form of osu(going by some of the comments in this thread). I understand you can disable the video in the visual settings, but you have to do each song individually that is very frustrating, whereas the no vid mod did to all of them with just one click of it(It's not like ppl who wanted videos had to take the mod off every time before they started playing)!!!!! Is there anyway you could hide the no video mod in the options for ppl who might share the same views as me on this?!!! Thanks

Go to options from the main menu and uncheck background video.

Soaprman wrote: 3s6r1r

Go to options from the main menu and uncheck background video.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

119410501 wrote: o134

100% Bg dim is not really 100% but a little bit less than 100%

No. It's black. Unless you didn't the map yet.

119410501 wrote: o134

kiai time flashes make bg re-appear for istances, it's still really disturbing

You only see it for like 0.5 seconds. It's not disurbing, I sometimes dont even notice.

I know i have to the map, and i know what I am saying. It's not 100% even it shows you you dimmed it to 100%.
Flashes are really disturbing because they affect to bg dim instead of disappearing if bg dim is 100% (indeed it isn't).

http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/551542

this is 100% black o_O

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/ss/551542

this is 100% black o_O

Try chosing some really bright bg, full of white and other bright colors, you'll notice something
Anyway the flashes are still too much disturbing

Okay. I'd like EVERYONE who thinks the kiai flashes are too distracting to take a alook at that video:


If that guy can S such a song even despite this super flashy video, you guys can play osu! with having the BG visible for 0.5 seconds

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Okay. I'd like EVERYONE who thinks the kiai flashes are too distracting to take a alook at that video:

SPOILER

If that guy can S such a song even despite this super flashy video, you guys can play osu! with having the BG visible for 0.5 seconds

I'm a FL player. I can't be distracted by flashes. I have a small field of view already, and i need to see everything, white on black.

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Okay. I'd like EVERYONE who thinks the kiai flashes are too distracting to take a alook at that video:

SPOILER

If that guy can S such a song even despite this super flashy video, you guys can play osu! with having the BG visible for 0.5 seconds

LOL. That video cannot be used in this context, 2 different games. Points have been made about this already, go read them again.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Okay. I'd like EVERYONE who thinks the kiai flashes are too distracting to take a alook at that video:

SPOILER

If that guy can S such a song even despite this super flashy video, you guys can play osu! with having the BG visible for 0.5 seconds

LOL. That video cannot be used in this context, 2 different games. Points have been made about this already, go read them again.

That looked way harder than osu! Your "points" are invalid. If he S'd that song with all that crap flashing, you guys should be fine with little flashes that come up every once in a while.

Nilsso wrote: 1h2px

Zarerion wrote: 6z4f1h

Okay. I'd like EVERYONE who thinks the kiai flashes are too distracting to take a alook at that video:

SPOILER

If that guy can S such a song even despite this super flashy video, you guys can play osu! with having the BG visible for 0.5 seconds

LOL. That video cannot be used in this context, 2 different games. Points have been made about this already, go read them again.

The notes are already displayed for the full "bar" across the game screen. Nothing is obscured no matter how much flashing happens because you've already seen the whole play field. Quite different from osu! where each note appearing is the next step in the playfield, as opposed to entire sections appearing beforehand. (I'm not denying the skill and coordination required in DJMax, but as far as readability goes, it's not the same.)

I think this pretty much explains why Nilsso said that the video can't be used in this context. osu! is more vulnerable to interruptions in the "perception reflex action" (Yes there is such a thing) of the eye/brain taking notice of new appearing notes, and/or, in the case of FL, the flashes reveal a glimpse of a pattern on the BG that "looks" like an approach circle. At high AR's there is a very small time frame of planning ahead in osu! which is adversely affected by conflicting visuals appearing in conjunction with notes.

But then again, I don't find the 0.5 sec flashes a problem? Just sayin'

Yeah, there is an obvious difference, but TBH, I've played both. I find osu! much easier, even with BG Pics and Videos.

RaneFire wrote: 412f1g

The notes are already displayed for the full "bar" across the game screen. Nothing is obscured no matter how much flashing happens because you've already seen the whole play field. Quite different from osu! where each note appearing is the next step in the playfield, as opposed to entire sections appearing beforehand. (I'm not denying the skill and coordination required in DJMax, but as far as readability goes, it's not the same.)

I think this pretty much explains why Nilsso said that the video can't be used in this context. osu! is more vulnerable to interruptions in the "perception reflex action" (Yes there is such a thing) of the eye/brain taking notice of new appearing notes, and/or, in the case of FL, the flashes reveal a glimpse of a pattern on the BG that "looks" like an approach circle. At high AR's there is a very small time frame of planning ahead in osu! which is adversely affected by conflicting visuals appearing in conjunction with notes.

But then again, I don't find the 0.5 sec flashes a problem? Just sayin'

You're right. But instead, i find the flashes as a problem. I want a totally clear gameplay.

That's awesome!