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marina - Towa yori Towa ni 6eu6v

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terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年4月14日 at 19:07:00

Artist: marina
Title: Towa yori Towa ni
Source: 少女神域∽少女天獄 -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-
Tags: NewRulerNA wring Lass shoujo shiniki tengoku
BPM: 200
Filesize: 5186kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy N/A (1.26 stars, 107 notes)
  2. Extra (5.52 stars, 545 notes)
  3. Insane (4.75 stars, 456 notes)
  4. Normal (2.09 stars, 195 notes)
  5. wring's Hard (3.44 stars, 348 notes)
: marina - Towa yori Towa ni
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
Fuck yeah, marina!
for DT

Easy by NewRulerNA
Hard by wring
with video. NSFW
Last edited by terametis , edited 83 times in total.
Guy
Former osu! Champion: 2014
2,049 posts
ed March 2009
SPOILER
01:20 terametis: timingチェックしてもらえませんか!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:20 Guy: ヨッシャ！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
01:20 terametis: ｳｵｵｵｵｵｵｵｵｵｵｵｵ!!!
01:20 *terametis is listening to [http://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/b/356968 marina - Towa yori Towa ni]
01:23 terametis: 01:25:639 (1) -
01:23 Guy: 00:41:851 -
01:23 Guy: ここどうしよう・・・
01:23 terametis: ここらへんから盛大にずれてるきがするんだけど
01:23 Guy: 1/1ずつここでタイミング変わってる
01:23 terametis: ?!
01:23 Guy: 問題はここだけっぽいな・・・
01:23 terametis: ここがヤバイやつだったか
01:24 Guy: Offset+12だなぁ
01:24 Guy: 13651
01:24 terametis: ok
01:26 Guy: u-nw
01:26 Guy: 赤線必要そうな気もするけど
01:26 Guy: スライダーで誤魔化せる気もする
01:26 Guy: これだけ短いとちょっとわからんです！！
01:26 terametis: 01:25:651 (1) -らへん?
01:27 Guy: ア
01:27 Guy: ここみてなかった
01:27 Guy: ちょっとまってくださいね
01:28 Guy: これ
01:28 Guy: ボーカルが走り気味なだけだと思う
01:28 terametis: ボーカルウンコマンだったか
01:29 Guy: 01:25:651 - とりあえずここに
01:29 Guy: 3/4リズムの赤線１個
01:29 Guy: 01:31:051 - ここで4/4に戻る感じですね
01:29 terametis: ok
01:30 Guy: これでOKなはず・・・
01:30 terametis: アザッス!!!!!!!!!!
01:30 Guy: 00:41:851 - 00:42:151 - 00:42:451 -
01:30 Guy: ここピアノのリズムが明らかに変わってるけど
01:30 Guy: スルーしても作れそうだからいけるかも

IRC TIMING CHECK :)
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
ed January 2010
Fuck yeah marina!
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
Hai doumo~ Here my mod~

[General]
  1. 曲始まる時間全部 00:13:651 - ここだからAudio Lead-In 1000とかはいってるのは0にして統一したほうがいいかも？
  2. WideScreenとかLetterboxはいらないような？Letterboxはともかく、WideScreenはワイド対応のSBが入ってないと意味ないからuncheck?
[Easy N/A]
  1. OD+1しませんか？0ってdiffバランス的にもどうかなーって
  2. 00:14:701 (2,3) - ここ2つの頭についてるFinishはバシバシなりすぎて逆にうるさいかも、音下げるかremoveしたほうがいいとおもいました。00:19:501 (2,3) - ここは後ろの音も大きくなってるので、フィットしていると思います。
  3. 00:23:101 (1) - 頭にFinish!
  4. 01:16:051 (1) - Finish~~~!!
  5. 01:20:851 (1) - ^ !!
  6. 01:27:451 (1) - Ncつける意味ないような・・・ないほうが次のnoteまでの道？が表示されるアレがあるからremoveしたほうがいい？
  7. 01:32:551 (4) - 上下対称もいいけど、歌詞の音とるなら 01:33:151 - ここまで拾ったほうがいい。
  8. 01:52:651 (1) - Finish!!!
  9. 02:01:351 (3) - 後ろにもFinish ??
[Normal]
  1. 00:13:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ここだけNc打つ感覚違うけど・・・真ん中あたりにいれていきませんか？
  2. 00:13:651 (1) - 頭Finish?
  3. 00:23:101 (1) - ^
  4. 00:31:351 (3,1,2) - 勢いあったけどここで一気に静まり返ってる感じあるからこうしてみませんか？人生一度きり！！！変更YOLOしく
  5. 01:04:501 (2) - clapあったほうが合ってる？
  6. 01:05:401 (4) - Drum Finish?
  7. 01:51:451 (2,3,4) - blanket使ったこんなのはどうですか？
    こんなの
  8. 02:21:451 (2) - DS変わるしNcいれておきますか？
[Insane]
  1. 00:14:401 (3,4) - 3から4のときの音大きくなってるけどスペーシングそのままですが 00:14:701 (4,5) - 似たようなこういうところじゃスペーシング広くなっているのでこんな感じでこうしてみませんか？そのあとの流れは任せます！！
    img
  2. 00:19:201 (3,4) - 両方ともCTRL+Gしたほうがイケメンなきがする
    ikemen
  3. 00:53:251 (5) - このあたりでNcほしい
  4. 01:04:351 (3) - x152 y212あたりにもってくると1.3と2.1で綺麗に見える?
  5. 01:14:626 - add noteして5連打にしたい
  6. 02:11:251 (3,4) - Kiai中だしどうせならストリームにしたい
hard wa looks fine desu !!!
Last edited by Satellite , edited 1 time in total.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

Hai doumo~ Here my mod~

[General]
  1. 曲始まる時間全部 00:13:651 - ここだからAudio Lead-In 1000とかはいってるのは0にして統一したほうがいいかも？
    :arrow:ok
  2. WideScreenとかLetterboxはいらないような？Letterboxはともかく、WideScreenはワイド対応のSBが入ってないと意味ないからuncheck?
    :arrow: よくわからないけど統一してればいいのではないか?
[Normal]
  1. 00:13:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ここだけNc打つ感覚違うけど・・・真ん中あたりにいれていきませんか？
    :arrow: ok
  2. 00:13:651 (1) - 頭Finish?
    :arrow: no
  3. 00:23:101 (1) - ^
    :arrow: ^
  4. 00:31:351 (3,1,2) - 勢いあったけどここで一気に静まり返ってる感じあるからこうしてみませんか？人生一度きり！！！変更YOLOしく

    :arrow: kangae tyuu
  5. 01:04:501 (2) - clapあったほうが合ってる？
    :arrow: ok
  6. 01:05:401 (4) - Drum Finish?
    :arrow: no
  7. 01:51:451 (2,3,4) - blanket使ったこんなのはどうですか？
    こんなの
    :arrow: ok
  8. 02:21:451 (2) - DS変わるしNcいれておきますか？
    :arrow: no
[Insane]
[Insane]
  1. 00:14:401 (3,4) - 3から4のときの音大きくなってるけどスペーシングそのままですが 00:14:701 (4,5) - 似たようなこういうところじゃスペーシング広くなっているのでこんな感じでこうしてみませんか？そのあとの流れは任せます！！
    img
    :arrow: 3と4の間広げました
  2. 00:19:201 (3,4) - 両方ともCTRL+Gしたほうがイケメンなきがする
    ikemen
    :arrow: ん、んんんんん　この部分の流れはイケメンになるんだけどちょっと保留
  3. 00:53:251 (5) - このあたりでNcほしい
    :arrow: ok
  4. 01:04:351 (3) - x152 y212あたりにもってくると1.3と2.1で綺麗に見える?
    :arrow: ok
  5. 01:14:626 - add noteして5連打にしたい
    :arrow: no
  6. 02:11:251 (3,4) - Kiai中だしどうせならストリームにしたい
    :arrow: ひと時の休憩を与えたい(与えたい
thanks for mod :3
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

Hai doumo~ Here my mod~

[Easy N/A]
  1. OD+1しませんか？0ってdiffバランス的にもどうかなーって
    :arrow: no. この譜面は叩くタイミングがそれぞれのパートでバラけているのでそれを挙げることは1つの譜面として見た際の難易度バランスに良い影響をもたらさないように感じました。
  2. 00:14:701 (2,3) - ここ2つの頭についてるFinishはバシバシなりすぎて逆にうるさいかも、音下げるかremoveしたほうがいいとおもいました。00:19:501 (2,3) - ここは後ろの音も大きくなってるので、フィットしていると思います。
    :arrow: 音が少ないので少し過剰でも問題はないように感じます。ギターも小さくはないので。
  3. 00:23:101 (1) - 頭にFinish!
    :arrow: why? finishなしは前のギターの所から区別をさせる意味も含んでいて、理由次第では直すかもしれません
  4. 01:16:051 (1) - Finish~~~!!
    :arrow: no. その箇所は曲に強い音がなく、ただ曲調の変化の節目である以上の意味を持たないポイントです。なのでそのfinishを追加する合理性に欠けているように感じられました。
  5. 01:20:851 (1) - ^ !! :arrow: same
  6. 01:27:451 (1) - Ncつける意味ないような・・・ないほうが次のnoteまでの道？が表示されるアレがあるからremoveしたほうがいい？
    :arrow: これらはスローパートを強調し、区別させるために加えたNCです。さらに言うならfollowpointを初心者は見て予測し、打つことを恐らくせず、このオブジェクトの密度を考えるとそれが特に必要となることもないはずです。
  7. 01:32:551 (4) - 上下対称もいいけど、歌詞の音とるなら 01:33:151 - ここまで拾ったほうがいい。
    :arrow: no. この譜面は歌詞を完全に無視しているはずです。歌詞をフォローすることでオブジェクトの密度、難易度バランスの調節が困難になってしまいます。一貫性を失ってまでそれを部分的に採用したいとは考えません。ごめんなさい
  8. 01:52:651 (1) - Finish!!!
    :arrow: ok
  9. 02:01:351 (3) - 後ろにもFinish ??
    :arrow: 02:02:251 (1) - にfinish
code 
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: towa yori towa ni.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 97351
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 53851
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Towa yori Towa ni
TitleUnicode:永久より永遠に
Artist:marina
ArtistUnicode:marina
Creator:terametis
Version:Easy N/A
Source:Shoujo Shiniki ∽ Shoujo Tengoku -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-
Tags:NewRulerNA wring
BeatmapID:363725
BeatmapSetID:143507

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:0
ApproachRate:4
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ty satelitte
kintyan
150 posts
ed September 2010
Hai doumo~

[Easy N/A]
AR-1? OD0なのでもっと遅くして良いと思います
00:13:651 ~ 00:22:351 全てのFinishが不要だと思いました。特に強調させるような音も無いですし
00:18:451 (1) - (上の指摘をskipした場合）ここだけスライダーの頭にfinishがついてるのはmiss?
00:23:101 ~ 曲調が変わる箇所ですので、少しパターンを変えたいです。ここ以前の音取りと一緒で少し単調だと感じました。
slider endの1/1拍後の白線の上にciecleを置きませんか？
00:31:501 (6) - nc
01:07:051 (1) and 01:11:851 (1) - さすがに繰り返し過ぎだと思います。2/1sliderの折り返しを二つにしませんか？
01:16:051 (1) - Kiai timeの開始地点？なのでFinishがあっても良いと思います
02:21:451 (1) and 02:22:351 (2) - この二つの終点のfinishをremove? 曲自体に合わせるならば不必要だと思います

[Normal]
このdiffだけslider tick rateが1なので2に変更？
AIbotでsnappedのエラーが出てます。チェックしておいて下さい :3
00:52:351 (3,1) - switch nc, drum hitsoundが3から入るのでncが欲しいところ
00:55:651 (3) - nc
01:42:901 - add circle?
02:19:951 (3) - 02:21:451 (2) - nc?

[wring' Hard]
diff nameにも入ってるので問題はないと思うのですが、このdiffだけtagに''wring''が入ってないので追加しておいて下さい
00:28:051 (1) - ctrl+G
00:27:751 (7,1) - 配置の提案
SPOILER

もしくは 00:28:051 (1) - をCtrl+G
00:34:351 (2) - over jumpだと思います。特に目立った音もないので縮めてもいいかと
00:34:951 (4) - ^
00:59:251 (1) - ctrl+G
01:06:451 (3) - nc?
01:10:351 (4) - ctrlG
01:28:351 (1,2) - switch nc
01:36:001 (4) - nc
01:51:601 (1,2) - switch nc

[Insane]
00:17:851 (7) - nc?
00:22:651 (6) - ^
00:23:101 (1) - slider headにfinishが合ったほうが締まる？かも
00:24:301 (5,6) - 完全に僕の好みですが、配置の提案です
SPOILER

00:24:151 (4) - をもう少し上に持って行くと尚いいかもしれません
これとかも
02:13:051 (1) - ctrlG?

good luck!!!
もしかしたら生意気な文章になってるかもしれませんが気にしないでください :3
何も考えないで打ってたらこうなった＼(^o^)／
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

Sheryl wrote: 2l2y1e

Hai doumo~

[Easy N/A]
AR-1? OD0なのでもっと遅くして良いと思います
:arrow: no. まずODが低い理由が以下の通り

NewRulerNA wrote: 276nw

この譜面は叩くタイミングがそれぞれのパートでバラけている
次にARがこの数値である理由はアプローチサークルを見て叩くことができ、かつ最も妥協できるラインなのでこういった設定になっています。これ以上下げればそれは簡単になるのではなく、単に見難くなるだけでプレイに影響がでると思います。
00:13:651 ~ 00:22:351 全てのFinishが不要だと思いました。特に強調させるような音も無いですし
:arrow: no. それぞれのギターの音は大きく、拾っている音が少ないEZではそれをする十分な理由を備えています。
00:18:451 (1) - (上の指摘をskipした場合）ここだけスライダーの頭にfinishがついてるのはmiss?
:arrow: ミスでした
00:23:101 ~ 曲調が変わる箇所ですので、少しパターンを変えたいです。ここ以前の音取りと一緒で少し単調だと感じました。
slider endの1/1拍後の白線の上にciecleを置きませんか？
:arrow: no. 私はこれを単調だとしても、アレンジを加える余裕がこの難易度、BPMにおいては存在せず、それをするべきではないように感じました。
さらに理由を加えるなら、EZとしての一つの譜面の難易度のバランスを考慮すると、サビよりも密度が実質的にあがり、バランス上の理由から良い結果とはなり得ないと思います。
00:31:501 (6) - nc
:arrow: NCのパターンはこれで問題ありません。4つの長い白線に合わせられているので、それを変更する理由を書いてくれれば再考します
01:07:051 (1) and 01:11:851 (1) - さすがに繰り返し過ぎだと思います。2/1sliderの折り返しを二つにしませんか？
:arrow: no. 01:10:651 (2) - のギターを強調する事もできなくなり、アレンジの要素を排除する提案で、良いとは思いません。
難易度上の理由としてもこれは十分な長さ、リバースまでのタイムがありプレイヤーはそれを認識することが可能です。
01:16:051 (1) - Kiai timeの開始地点？なのでFinishがあっても良いと思います
:arrow:

NewRulerNA wrote: 276nw

no. その箇所は曲に強い音がなく、ただ曲調の変化の節目である以上の意味を持たないポイントです。なのでそのfinishを追加する合理性に欠けているように感じられました。
02:21:451 (1) and 02:22:351 (2) - この二つの終点のfinishをremove? 曲自体に合わせるならば不必要だと思います
:arrow: no. それぞれのポイントで強いギター音が存在し、また始点と近い音質を持っています。よってその理由はこの箇所では成り立ちません。

good luck!!!
もしかしたら生意気な文章になってるかもしれませんが気にしないでください :3
何も考えないで打ってたらこうなった＼(^o^)／
thanks Sheryl

http://puu.sh/7m0VU.zip

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wring
596 posts
ed February 2010

Sheryl wrote: 2l2y1e

[wring' Hard]
diff nameにも入ってるので問題はないと思うのですが、このdiffだけtagに''wring''が入ってないので追加しておいて下さい otto
00:28:051 (1) - ctrl+G
00:27:751 (7,1) - 配置の提案 no, わざとです
SPOILER

もしくは 00:28:051 (1) - をCtrl+G
00:34:351 (2) - over jumpだと思います。特に目立った音もないので縮めてもいいかと
00:34:951 (4) - ^ x2を意識してます
00:59:251 (1) - ctrl+G 流れには沿いますが窮屈です
01:06:451 (3) - nc? 保留で
01:10:351 (4) - ctrlG no
01:28:351 (1,2) - switch nc ok
01:36:001 (4) - nc 保留で
01:51:601 (1,2) - switch nc no
thanks mod

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terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Sheryl wrote: 2l2y1e

Hai doumo~

[Normal]
このdiffだけslider tick rateが1なので2に変更？
:arrow: no,やたらカチカチなるのでこのままで
AIbotでsnappedのエラーが出てます。チェックしておいて下さい :3
:arrow: ok
00:52:351 (3,1) - switch nc, drum hitsoundが3から入るのでncが欲しいところ
:arrow: ok
00:55:651 (3) - nc
:arrow: ok
01:42:901 - add circle?
:arrow: 簡単にしたいのでこのままで
02:19:951 (3) - 02:21:451 (2) - nc?
:arrow: んー、このままで


[Insane]
00:17:851 (7) - nc?
:arrow: no
00:22:651 (6) - ^
:arrow: ^
00:23:101 (1) - slider headにfinishが合ったほうが締まる？かも
:arrow: ok
00:24:301 (5,6) - 完全に僕の好みですが、配置の提案です
SPOILER

00:24:151 (4) - をもう少し上に持って行くと尚いいかもしれません
これとかも
:arrow: んんん、00:23:551 (2) - 、00:24:751 (6) - 、00:25:951 (2) - とちょっと同じぐらいで飛ばしたい気持ちがあるのでこのままで
02:13:051 (1) - ctrlG?
:arrow: このままで
modありがとうございました :333
RandF
1,249 posts
ed March 2013
hai hai, doumo~

[General]
  1. tags suggetion:
    Lass
    ending
  2. 最近は日本語のsourceにする方が多いのでいかがですか？ ： "少女神域∽少女天獄 -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-"
[Normal]
  1. 01:03:901 (1,2) - 音取りの提案です。伸ばす音をsliderにした方が良いかと
  2. 01:12:451 (3,1) - avoid overlap
  3. 02:10:651 (4) - ちょっと不自然な気がします。素直にcurved sliderでいいんじゃないかと
[Insane]
  1. 01:22:951 (3,4) - 難しすぎかな・・・。DSを小さくしてほしいです
  2. 01:46:651 (1,2) - ＾
  3. 02:13:051 (1,2) - これも02:11:851 (1,2) - のように点対称にした方が統一感あって良いと思います
[Easy N/A]
  1. 00:25:501 (3,4) - overlapぎみなので、無理してblanketしなくても良いと思います
  2. 00:27:751 (1,2,3,4) - beginner playerにこのstackは難しいと思います。1/2rhythmが混ざっていて難易度の高い場所ですので。
    特に00:28:801 (3) - はかなり厳しいかと・・・
  3. 00:57:301~01:03:301 (2) - 赤線スタートで統一されてますが、easyとしてはrhythmをとるのが難しく感じました。
[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:34:651 (3) - stackするなら00:33:751 (4) - の方が統一感が出るような気がします
  2. 01:20:251 (3) - ちょっとstackがずれすぎなような・・・
  3. 01:35:551 (3,4,5,6) - こちらの方が流れが良いかと
    SPOILER
  4. 02:08:851 (5,6,1) - blanketしてはどうでしょう？
    SPOILER
request ありがとうございました :)
機会あればまたぜひ~
~Good Luck~
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c

hai hai, doumo~

[Easy N/A]
  1. 00:25:501 (3,4) - overlapぎみなので、無理してblanketしなくても良いと思います
    :arrow: overlapを起こさないようにmappingされているので、それを変更する必要性があるようには感じられませんでした。
    加えて流れを重視した場合に、下から上に上げる円運動を維持させる意味もあり、これは現状維持とさせてもらいます。
  2. 00:27:751 (1,2,3,4) - beginner playerにこのstackは難しいと思います。1/2rhythmが混ざっていて難易度の高い場所ですので。
    特に00:28:801 (3) - はかなり厳しいかと・・・
    :arrow: スタックに関してというよりオブジェクトの密度に関してこのポイントは簡略することが可能で、難易度バランスの調節をする必要が確かにありますね。密度に関して修正しました。
  3. 00:57:301~01:03:301 (2) - 赤線スタートで統一されてますが、easyとしてはrhythmをとるのが難しく感じました。
    :arrow: 前のパートからギターで拾ってきているので音取りに一貫性を損ねる事はosuの最低難易度として優れているとは思いません。
    それぞれの音を聞くことで十分可能で、また多くのスライダーと低いODから1/2程度の多少のズレならばコンボブレイクを起こすこと無くプレイも可能です。

request ありがとうございました :)
機会あればまたぜひ~
~Good Luck~
ty RE

code 
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: towa yori towa ni.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 97351
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 53851
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Towa yori Towa ni
TitleUnicode:永久より永遠に
Artist:marina
ArtistUnicode:marina
Creator:terametis
Version:Easy N/A
Source:Shoujo Shiniki ∽ Shoujo Tengoku -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-
Tags:NewRulerNA wring
BeatmapID:363725
BeatmapSetID:143507

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CircleSize:2
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256,192,32851,12,0,37651,2:0:0:0:
76,64,56851,5,0,0:0:0:0:
156,116,57301,2,0,B|208:116|208:116|272:44|272:44|324:44,1,199.999976158142
368,128,58501,2,0,P|376:192|292:308,1,199.999976158142
206,301,59701,6,0,P|143:225|144:128,1,199.999976158142
172,36,60901,2,0,B|220:24|256:76|256:76|292:24|340:36,1,199.999976158142
367,127,62101,6,0,B|304:192|304:192|304:324,1,199.999976158142
208,301,63301,2,0,B|208:192|208:192|144:127,1,199.999976158142
52,148,64501,6,0,P|32:196|28:272,2,119.999985694885
76,56,65851,2,0,P|40:32|-20:16,2,79.999990463257
144,164,67051,6,0,P|224:148|308:92,5,159.999980926514
412,152,70651,2,0,B|440:208|440:208|440:336,1,159.999980926514,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,344,71851,6,0,P|224:332|168:276,5,159.999980926514
228,72,76051,5,0,0:0:0:0:
228,72,76351,2,0,B|300:64|320:120|320:120|368:132,1,159.999980926514
365,252,77551,2,0,B|320:264|320:264|300:320|228:312,1,159.999980926514
172,280,78451,5,0,0:0:0:0:
172,280,78751,2,0,L|196:92,1,159.999980926514
319,121,79951,2,0,L|340:280,1,159.999980926514
284,312,80851,5,0,0:0:0:0:
284,312,81151,2,0,B|208:256|208:256|132:256,1,159.999980926514
142,128,82351,2,0,B|208:128|208:128|284:72,1,159.999980926514
336,36,83251,6,4,P|392:56|464:108,2,119.999985694885
284,72,84451,2,4,P|228:52|156:0,2,119.999985694885
316,128,85651,6,0,B|384:164|384:164|336:240|359:323,1,239.999971389771,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
153,320,87451,6,0,B|176:240|128:164|128:164|196:128,1,239.999971389771,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
358,320,89251,6,0,B|296:320|256:372|256:372|216:320|152:320,1,239.999971389771,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,192,91051,5,4,0:0:0:0:
8,192,91351,2,0,P|72:192|128:168,1,119.999985694885
180,96,92251,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,96,92551,2,0,P|244:96|300:120,1,119.999985694885
295,267,93451,5,0,0:0:0:0:
295,267,93751,2,0,P|239:288|180:288,1,119.999985694885
160,192,94651,1,4,0:2:0:0:
180,95,95101,2,0,P|239:95|295:116,1,119.999985694885,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,172,95851,6,4,L|300:296,1,119.999985694885
210,289,96751,2,4,L|184:172,1,119.999985694885
448,137,98251,5,4,0:0:0:0:
448,137,98551,2,0,B|384:129|368:77|368:77|292:57,1,159.999980926514
196,64,99751,2,0,B|144:77|144:77|128:129|64:137,1,159.999980926514
32,192,100651,5,0,0:0:0:0:
64,246,100951,2,0,B|128:254|144:306|144:306|196:320,1,159.999980926514
316,320,102151,2,0,B|367:306|367:306|383:254|447:246,1,159.999980926514
480,192,103051,1,0,0:0:0:0:
447,137,103351,6,0,P|400:84|316:64,1,159.999980926514
320,192,104551,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,105151,1,0,0:0:0:0:
63,137,105751,2,0,P|118:79|195:63,1,159.999980926514
256,76,106651,6,4,L|256:208,2,119.999985694885
300,32,107851,5,0,0:0:0:0:
300,32,108151,2,0,B|351:47|351:47|392:80|416:130,1,159.999980926514
416,253,109351,2,0,B|392:304|351:336|351:336|300:352,1,159.999980926514
256,304,110251,5,0,0:0:0:0:
208,260,110551,2,0,L|40:260,1,159.999980926514
48,124,111751,2,0,L|208:124,1,159.999980926514
256,80,112651,5,4,0:0:0:0:
304,124,112951,2,0,B|344:192|344:192|320:216|320:267,1,159.999980926514
191,267,114151,2,0,B|192:216|168:192|168:192|208:124,1,159.999980926514
272,108,115051,6,0,L|376:108,2,79.999990463257
192,8,116251,2,0,L|4:8,1,159.999980926514
64,132,117451,5,4,0:0:0:0:
64,132,117751,2,0,P|116:196|208:212,1,159.999980926514
323,214,118951,2,0,P|399:193|448:132,1,159.999980926514
448,68,119851,5,0,0:0:0:0:
448,68,120151,2,0,B|408:28|408:28|300:84,1,159.999980926514
195,75,121351,2,0,B|104:28|104:28|64:68,1,159.999980926514
84,128,122251,5,0,0:0:0:0:
84,128,122551,2,0,P|152:160|196:252,1,159.999980926514
318,231,123751,2,0,P|357:162|428:128,1,159.999980926514
464,180,124651,6,4,L|480:312,2,119.999985694885
428,128,125851,2,4,L|412:-4,2,119.999985694885
380,172,127051,5,4,0:0:0:0:
380,172,127351,2,0,P|340:232|320:320,1,159.999980926514
191,316,128551,2,0,P|175:238|132:172,1,159.999980926514
180,128,129451,5,0,0:0:0:0:
180,128,129751,2,0,B|256:104|256:104|332:128,1,159.999980926514
332,256,130951,2,0,B|256:280|256:280|180:256,1,159.999980926514
120,232,131851,5,4,0:0:0:0:
152,140,132301,2,4,B|196:96|196:96|244:144|244:144|336:144,1,199.999976158142
313,240,133501,2,4,B|244:240|244:240|196:288|196:288|152:244,1,199.999976158142
152,140,134701,6,4,B|196:92|196:92|232:156|316:144,1,199.999976158142
310,239,135901,2,2,B|232:228|196:292|196:292|152:244,1,199.999976158142,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,196,136951,6,0,P|180:148|208:60,1,159.999980926514
256,40,137851,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,82,138151,2,0,P|337:154|404:196,1,159.999980926514
456,236,139051,6,4,L|392:348,1,119.999985694885
332,268,139951,2,4,B|236:354,1,119.999985694885
48,236,141451,6,4,L|84:96,1,119.999985694885
156,176,142351,2,4,L|192:36,1,119.999985694885
264,116,143251,2,4,L|292:4,2,79.999990463257
-Teina-
529 posts
ed October 2013
From Teller's team modding queues ( ･´ω･｀)

osu! size GB

Insane
  1. 00:55:951 (2,4) - I think that this two circle should have same distance for Next. 00:55:951 (2,3) - and 00:56:401 (4,5) - is same at rhythm. Also this part is not good for jump, the rhythm is not outstanding player is difficulty to click it.
  2. 01:05:251 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - In this stream, 01:05:851 (10) - is change some voice. And 01:06:151 - have a main point in voice (more loudly). I think stream is too long and you can change some pattern.
  3. 01:06:451 (1) - small ebb point here. And different with 01:06:751 (2,3,4) - . try it↓.
  4. 01:46:201 (4) - may be to far to jump to 01:46:351 (5) - (It is special)
  5. 01:55:726 (2,4,6,8) - overmap?
  6. 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - some circle overmap. e.g.02:05:626 (7,8) -
  7. 02:11:551 (4) - prev and next distance not balance or close.
  8. 02:14:251 (1,2,3,4,5) - some circle overmap.
  9. 02:14:701 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - some circle overmap.
  10. 02:15:451 (1,2) - 02:15:526 - and 02:15:826 - no voice here?

    hitsound:
  11. 00:13:651 (1) - add finish
  12. 00:14:701 (4) - ^
  13. 00:15:901 (1) - ^
  14. 00:17:101 (5) - ^
  15. 00:19:501 (4) - ^
  16. 00:20:701 (1) - ^
  17. 00:21:901 (4) - ^
  18. 00:45:751 (3) - remove Whistle (same at 00:40:051 (1,2,3) - )
  19. 00:50:551 (3) - ^
  20. 01:43:051 (1) - add finish
  21. 01:47:851 (1) - ^
  22. 02:13:051 (1,2) - ^

    Timing:
  23. Some slider vol. only 5% (I hear that the slider should be not lower that 20%)

wring's Hard
  1. song setup > Design > remove Widescreen .
  2. AIMOD problem.

Normal
  1. 01:16:051 (1) - distance not balance or close.
  2. 01:24:451 (1) - blanket it.
  3. song setup > Design > remove Widescreen .

Easy NA
  1. 00:37:951 - the break time is too long.
  2. 01:22:051 - push 01:22:351 (3) - here and 01:22:951 - circle here. I think this rhythm as well.
  3. (KIAI time) P.S. 01:38:251- start here. This is a fast part but there have many space here.You can add/change something to make this part look fast.
  4. song setup > Design > remove Widescreen .

Nice map.(╯°□°)╯彡
Let go for rank~
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c

hai hai, doumo~

[General]
  1. tags suggetion:
    Lass
    ending
    :arrow: Lassだけ追加
  2. 最近は日本語のsourceにする方が多いのでいかがですか？ ： "少女神域∽少女天獄 -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-"
:arrow: 了解しました
[Normal]
  1. 01:03:901 (1,2) - 音取りの提案です。伸ばす音をsliderにした方が良いかと

    :arrow: できればBPM200の1/2を回避したいのでこのままで
  2. 01:12:451 (3,1) - avoid overlap
    :arrow: ok
  3. 02:10:651 (4) - ちょっと不自然な気がします。素直にcurved sliderでいいんじゃないかと
    :arrow: ok
[Insane]
  1. 01:22:951 (3,4) - 難しすぎかな・・・。DSを小さくしてほしいです
    :arrow: んー、このままで
  2. 01:46:651 (1,2) - ＾
    :arrow: ^
  3. 02:13:051 (1,2) - これも02:11:851 (1,2) - のように点対称にした方が統一感あって良いと思います
    :arrow: 点対称でスペースをうまく使える配置を思いつかなかったのでこのままで
sorry for late reply, thanks for mod :)
Cezira
21 posts
ed November 2014
Hey there! Here are my suggestions:

Normal

Delete the circle at 00:32:851 (2) - and put one at 00:32:551 - Also start the spinner at 00:32:851 - (I know you wanna follow the beat, but let the spinner start right on the beat and between the circle and the spinner there is a too long break to let the space free.)

The spinner is in my opinion much too long for a normal diff. Maybe you let it end at 00:35:251 - and fill the free space with four sliders?

Distance between the two sliders at 00:40:051 (2,3) - is too short. Never deactivate the distance-snap on normal diffs pls.

The slider at 00:43:051 (2) - is too round. I suggest an angle at the end to fit the singing.

Instead of a slider at 00:47:251 (1) - I suggest a circle at 00:47:551 - , which you can put on the beginning of the next slider. It fits the little break in the singing.

00:49:651 (1,2) - Distance is too short.

I would delete the slider at 00:56:101 (3) - and take another reverse slider like 00:55:651 (2) -, so it gets a little bit easier for the player.

I suggest to make the slider at 00:58:351 (4) - longer (ending at 00:58:951 - ) and end with a single circle (at 00:59:251 - ), so the slider number 5 doesn't have to end right on the beat (many player's don't like this, it's confusing). You can blanket these two in a nice way.

01:00:751 (4,5) - same

01:03:901 (1,2,3,4) - Offbeats (even if it fits the singing) in a normal is not good - and single offbeat-circles is a no-go. But the offbeat is nice (and necessary) here in my opinion, so I suggest sliders, which make it easier not to fail at this part. For example a slider at 01:03:901 - 01:04:501 - (with an angle to fit the singing) and one at 01:04:951 - 01:05:401 - .

01:13:651 (1) - Why such a strange shape? You never use such a shape, I would change it.

01:19:651 (3) - NC

Make the shape of the slider at 01:24:451 (1) - like the shape of the slider before. It looks strange this way (especially it is just as long as the other slider).

Make the slider at 01:31:051 (1) - straight, so it's a hint for the player that the rhythm changes again.

01:35:101 (2,3) - Make a slider insted of these two offbeat-circles or change the whole pattern with the reverse slider from before.

I would start the slider at 01:40:576 (1) - at the white tick to make it symmetric to the pattern before, even though the singing starts a bit earlier. Don't make it too difficult for a normal diff.

01:47:101 (4) - is offbeat. I would change the two sliders 3 and 4 and make one (double-)reverse-slider.

Delete the circle at 01:52:651 (4) - and start the spinner there.

02:07:051 (1) - Strange shape. You didn't use that before. I would make it straight OR round ^^

I would suggest to make the slider at 02:20:851 (1) - longer (so it ends at the white tick) so it doesn't look the same like the sliders before. The rhythm changes (or better: You now don't follow the beat, but the singing ) and so should the sliders. You can blanket it with the last circle.



That's it! A wonderful song and a good map! It's not easy to map with all these offbeats, but great job :D
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
:x

Cezira wrote: 4s4m5n

Hey there! Here are my suggestions:

Normal

Delete the circle at 00:32:851 (2) - and put one at 00:32:551 - Also start the spinner at 00:32:851 - (I know you wanna follow the beat, but let the spinner start right on the beat and between the circle and the spinner there is a too long break to let the space free.)
The spinner is in my opinion much too long for a normal diff. Maybe you let it end at 00:35:251 - and fill the free space with four sliders?
:arrow: I don't here sound at 00:32:551. Beginner players need time to pick up the mouse after spin I think.
In addition, sound of the end and the sound of the start is different. It is strange for me.

Distance between the two sliders at 00:40:051 (2,3) - is too short. Never deactivate the distance-snap on normal diffs pls.
:arrow: Spacing of beat is enough. DS is not valid I think.

The slider at 00:43:051 (2) - is too round. I suggest an angle at the end to fit the singing.
:arrow: hmm, current state of angle is correct answer for me.

Instead of a slider at 00:47:251 (1) - I suggest a circle at 00:47:551 - , which you can put on the beginning of the next slider. It fits the little break in the singing.
:arrow: You are right. Change this part.

00:49:651 (1,2) - Distance is too short.
:arrow: same as reason of 00:40:051.

I would delete the slider at 00:56:101 (3) - and take another reverse slider like 00:55:651 (2) -, so it gets a little bit easier for the player.
:arrow: ahh, please give me time to think.

I suggest to make the slider at 00:58:351 (4) - longer (ending at 00:58:951 - ) and end with a single circle (at 00:59:251 - ), so the slider number 5 doesn't have to end right on the beat (many player's don't like this, it's confusing). You can blanket these two in a nice way.
01:00:751 (4,5) - same
:arrow: hum. This mapping based on singing. It is my favorite.

01:03:901 (1,2,3,4) - Offbeats (even if it fits the singing) in a normal is not good - and single offbeat-circles is a no-go. But the offbeat is nice (and necessary) here in my opinion, so I suggest sliders, which make it easier not to fail at this part. For example a slider at 01:03:901 - 01:04:501 - (with an angle to fit the singing) and one at 01:04:951 - 01:05:401 - .
:arrow: Same as above. I want to emphasize here, don't plan to replace the slider.

01:13:651 (1) - Why such a strange shape? You never use such a shape, I would change it.
:arrow: I hate this overlap.　
SPOILER

01:19:651 (3) - NC
:arrow: no. There is no change of tune.

Make the shape of the slider at 01:24:451 (1) - like the shape of the slider before. It looks strange this way (especially it is just as long as the other slider).
:arrow: Shape of the slider at 01:23:251. Perhaps improvement.

Make the slider at 01:31:051 (1) - straight, so it's a hint for the player that the rhythm changes again.
:arrow: no

01:35:101 (2,3) - Make a slider insted of these two offbeat-circles or change the whole pattern with the reverse slider from before.
:arrow: I want to emphasize here. It really important for me.

I would start the slider at 01:40:576 (1) - at the white tick to make it symmetric to the pattern before, even though the singing starts a bit earlier. Don't make it too difficult for a normal diff.
:arrow: Here part is thinking already for me. As an absolute condition of in me, start is 01:40:501. As a result, I chose here interval is 1/1. so no change.

01:47:101 (4) - is offbeat. I would change the two sliders 3 and 4 and make one (double-)reverse-slider.
:arrow: no.

Delete the circle at 01:52:651 (4) - and start the spinner there.
:arrow: no.

02:07:051 (1) - Strange shape. You didn't use that before. I would make it straight OR round ^^
:arrow: ok, change another one.

I would suggest to make the slider at 02:20:851 (1) - longer (so it ends at the white tick) so it doesn't look the same like the sliders before. The rhythm changes (or better: You now don't follow the beat, but the singing ) and so should the sliders. You can blanket it with the last circle.
:arrow: no, current state is good for me.

That's it! A wonderful song and a good map! It's not easy to map with all these offbeats, but great job :D
Thank you for mod :)
Laurier
1,786 posts
ed February 2011
from Skype

General
wring選手の難易度だけtagとソース違うからなおしておこう

Extera
ExteraだしARコンマ単位でもう少しあげてもよさそう。
00:16:651 (3) - 1個だけ直線sliderってのがなんか浮いてるし左に見える00:15:901 (1) - のラインに沿うような形にしてあげるといいかも。 http://puu.sh/ey767/47363ea02b.jpg
00:23:551 (2) - 微妙だけどぶらんけっとが甘いので少し上へ
00:32:926 (1) - ホイッスルが合いそう
00:57:451 (3) - Ctrl+Gして00:56:851 (1) - これと同じ向きにしたほうが流れ良さそう。
01:39:451 (2,3,1,2,3) - このへんの配置の提案。http://puu.sh/ey7Vf/0e6038a6a4.jpg 現状だと01:39:751 (7,1) - のつなぎが勢い殺しかけてるから、盛り上がりのはじめだしもっと飛ばしていっていいと思った。
01:41:251 (3,4) - こことかもそれぞれの向き逆(Ctrl+G)にして、勢いついたままAIMさせたほうが楽しそうhttp://puu.sh/ey8ar/19a872d89e.jpg
01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - コンボ24とかなんかきたねえ！って感じするし半分ぐらいで色かえてみたらどう？
02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - 色変わるところとのメリハリ付ける感じでこの部分はspacing小さめで作ってもいいと思う。 http://puu.sh/ey8yf/14f9a62cd3.jpg
02:09:301 (1) - なんかここの音がすごく軽く感じて違和感がある。finishとかつけてあげてみない？


Insane
Aiさんがなんかメモリにあってねーぞ！！！って言ってるから確認してあげて。
00:22:651 (1) - NCつけるなら次のnoteじゃない？そして願わくば次のnoteみにくいからちょっとずらして配置して欲しい。
00:32:401 - 　ドラムの音に合わせて3連打なりなんかnoteはやさない？
00:40:051 (1,2,3) - 同じようなアンチジャンプのパターンがこのあとも2箇所でてくるけど、ここだけ極端に狭いから狭くするならあとのも同じぐらい狭くして、広いほうがいいならこっちもそんな感じでやったほうがパターン的によさげ
01:01:051 (1) - clapつけるならもう１個あとの単発のほうがよくないか！
01:07:351 (5) - ２角sliderを向かい合わせる配置続いてるし、ここも同じようにしてあげよ！http://puu.sh/eyaS1/72aa9af5df.jpg このへんにおいておけばそれっぽいでしょ
01:16:351 (2) - 流れに逆らわせないでAIMできるようにCtrl+Gしてあげるのはどうだろう
01:27:451 (1) - 少し曲げてあげて01:28:351 (3) - みたいな感じにしよう
01:32:701 (2) - もう少し上にもってってちゃんとブランケットできる位置に移動しよ
02:06:751 (1) - NCつけるなら次のsliderのほうが合いそう

全部見るとかいったけど疲れたので切ります
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Laurier wrote: 4a5r4z

from Skype

General
wring選手の難易度だけtagとソース違うからなおしておこう

Extera
ExteraだしARコンマ単位でもう少しあげてもよさそう。
:arrow: NO!!!!
00:16:651 (3) - 1個だけ直線sliderってのがなんか浮いてるし左に見える00:15:901 (1) - のラインに沿うような形にしてあげるといいかも。
http://puu.sh/ey767/47363ea02b.jpg
:arrow: 直しました!!!
00:23:551 (2) - 微妙だけどぶらんけっとが甘いので少し上へ
:arrow: 直しました!!!
00:32:926 (1) - ホイッスルが合いそう
:arrow: 直しました!!!
00:57:451 (3) - Ctrl+Gして00:56:851 (1) - これと同じ向きにしたほうが流れ良さそう。
:arrow: NO!!!!
01:39:451 (2,3,1,2,3) - このへんの配置の提案。http://puu.sh/ey7Vf/0e6038a6a4.jpg 現状だと01:39:751 (7,1) - のつなぎが勢い殺しかけてるから、盛り上がりのはじめだしもっと飛ばしていっていいと思った。
:arrow: (7)を2倍ぐらい距離伸ばして、7-1-2を同じ距離にしたから勢い止まらなくなったはず!!
01:41:251 (3,4) - こことかもそれぞれの向き逆(Ctrl+G)にして、勢いついたままAIMさせたほうが楽しそうhttp://puu.sh/ey8ar/19a872d89e.jpg
:arrow:
01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24) - コンボ24とかなんかきたねえ！って感じするし半分ぐらいで色かえてみたらどう？
:arrow: 直しました!!!
02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - 色変わるところとのメリハリ付ける感じでこの部分はspacing小さめで作ってもいいと思う。 http://puu.sh/ey8yf/14f9a62cd3.jpg
:arrow: NO!!!!　かっこよくはなるけど02:04:801 (2,3,4) - と同じぐらいのスペーシングのほうが勢いが好き!
02:09:301 (1) - なんかここの音がすごく軽く感じて違和感がある。finishとかつけてあげてみない？
:arrow: NO!!!!


Insane
Aiさんがなんかメモリにあってねーぞ！！！って言ってるから確認してあげて。
:arrow: ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
00:22:651 (1) - NCつけるなら次のnoteじゃない？そして願わくば次のnoteみにくいからちょっとずらして配置して欲しい。
:arrow: NC削除!!
00:32:401 - 　ドラムの音に合わせて3連打なりなんかnoteはやさない？
:arrow: 3連打が2ニョッキした
00:40:051 (1,2,3) - 同じようなアンチジャンプのパターンがこのあとも2箇所でてくるけど、ここだけ極端に狭いから狭くするならあとのも同じぐらい狭くして、広いほうがいいならこっちもそんな感じでやったほうがパターン的によさげ
:arrow: 直しました!!!
01:01:051 (1) - clapつけるならもう１個あとの単発のほうがよくないか！
:arrow: 直しました!!!
01:07:351 (5) - ２角sliderを向かい合わせる配置続いてるし、ここも同じようにしてあげよ！http://puu.sh/eyaS1/72aa9af5df.jpg このへんにおいておけばそれっぽいでしょ
:arrow: たぶんここらへんパートごとかえる!!!!
01:16:351 (2) - 流れに逆らわせないでAIMできるようにCtrl+Gしてあげるのはどうだろう
:arrow: 直しました!!!
01:27:451 (1) - 少し曲げてあげて01:28:351 (3) - みたいな感じにしよう
:arrow: 直しました!!!
01:32:701 (2) - もう少し上にもってってちゃんとブランケットできる位置に移動しよ
:arrow: 1をさげた!!
02:06:751 (1) - NCつけるなら次のsliderのほうが合いそう
:arrow: 直しました!!!


全部見るとかいったけど疲れたので切ります
ありがとう!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wring
596 posts
ed February 2010

RandomEffect wrote: 3yh3c

[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:34:651 (3) - stackするなら00:33:751 (4) - の方が統一感が出るような気がします 保留
  2. 01:20:251 (3) - ちょっとstackがずれすぎなような・・・ ok
  3. 01:35:551 (3,4,5,6) - こちらの方が流れが良いかと ok
  4. 02:08:851 (5,6,1) - blanketしてはどうでしょう？ 保留
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Extraだけwidescreenのチェックが外れてるみたいですぞ
それとtagソースあざした
Ranger
939 posts
ed June 2011
yup o/

[General]

remove letterbox during breaks. it useless (exclude Easy)

[Easy N/A]

00:23:101 (1) - add finish at front. it`s good hear to me
00:57:301 ~ 01:04:501 - maybe it`s confusing to find timing for beginner. how about get to start at white line?
01:05:851 (2) - add whistle at the end
01:16:051 (1) - add finish here.cause kiai time has started.

[Normal]

i don`t like change of speed at normal, but have one´s way.

00:32:926 (1) - add whistle here
00:56:851 (1) - add finish at front?
02:07:051 (1) - spacing error a little

[wring's Hard]

00:16:051 (1) - how about make pattern like this? it`s match the music more i think

00:35:401 (1) - add whistle here
00:56:851 (4) - add finish here?
01:30:751 (5,1) - it`s too far :o how e Ctrl + G?

[Insane]

00:23:101 (2) - add finish here.cause other diff do that
00:44:326 - this inherited point don`t need. remove this
01:01:501 (3) - how about fit the x:464 y:240?

[Extra]

00:30:751 (2) - how about make same angle like 00:29:851 (7,8,9,10,11)?
00:56:851 (1) - add finish at front?

nice mapset :D
good luck for Rank~
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Ranger wrote: 631f6q

yup o/

[Normal]

i don`t like change of speed at normal, but have one´s way.

00:32:926 (1) - add whistle here
00:56:851 (1) - add finish at front?
02:07:051 (1) - spacing error a little

All Fixed


[Insane]

00:23:101 (2) - add finish here.cause other diff do that Fixed
00:44:326 - this inherited point don`t need. remove this Fixed
01:01:501 (3) - how about fit the x:464 y:240? no


[Extra]

00:30:751 (2) - how about make same angle like 00:29:851 (7,8,9,10,11)?
00:56:851 (1) - add finish at front?

All Fixed
thanks for mod :)
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
Recheck time. No kds pls =3=/

[General]
  1. Unrankableになり得る可能性がある緑線です、Slider Velocityを変更しない場合は赤線を調節して不要な緑線は消してください。
    また、Slider Velocityを変更している場合でも赤線のSamplesetとVolumeは緑線か赤線のどちらかに統一してください。全難易度で確認してみてください。
[Easy N/A]
  1. NormalのODを4にして頂く予定なのでHardのODは6なのでOD+1か+2したほうがmapset全体のバランスを見ると良くなると思います。リズムに関しても譜面全体が７割Sliderを占める+裏の音がはっきりしている箇所にサークルも配置されているので、リズムが困難ではないのでOD0にする理由もないと思います。
  2. 00:19:501 (2,3) - Missing Distance snap. 調整してください。
  3. 01:27:451 (1) - Remove New combo. ここに新しいNcは不要です。Nc spamとなり、好ましくないです。
  4. 01:36:751 (2) - 少し次への間隔は開いていますが、Easy diffでDistanceが広くなることは好ましくないです、違った形へと変更してください。
[Normal]
  1. OD+1 Hard -> Insaneのspreadを詰めるので、Normal ->Hardのspead調整のために上げませんか？
  2. 00:30:751 (2,3,1) - この間隔はプレイする際にわかりづらいと思います。以下の音取りを試してください。
  3. 00:41:851 (3) - できればDS通りに配置したほうが好ましいです。一応、提案置いておきます。変更したくない場合はせめてNewcomboをいれてあげると視認性の問題も向上すると思います。
    img
  4. 00:46:351 (2) - 細かいですがDSズレしているので直してください。
  5. 00:51:451 (2) - 00:41:851 (3) - こちらと同様の理由です。
  6. 01:03:451 (4,1) - ちょっと単調すぎる？パターンをここだけ変えてメロディに合わせるといいかもしれません。
  7. 01:10:051 (2) - 01:15:751 (2) - 01:48:751 (2) - 細かいですがDSズレしているので直してください。
  8. 02:19:051 (1,2,3,4) - DSバラバラにするのはマズい・・・！こういうのはどうですか？
    img
  9. 全体を通して細かなDSのズレが目立ちます・・・*0.05あたりなら問題ありませんが*0.10くらいズレているのは直したほうがいいかもしれません。
[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:16:051 (1) - 音取りこのままでもいいけど、こっちのほうが合ってない？
  2. 00:20:851 (1) - こっちも同様に！
  3. 00:54:451 (1,2,3) - 形はきれいだけど流れ悪いから、違う形に変えたほうがいいです。
  4. 01:03:451 (6,7) - ちょっと飛びすぎかも。
  5. 01:24:451 (5) - Ncいれませんか？
  6. 01:30:751 (5,1) - もーちょい近づけたい
  7. 01:34:651 (1,2,3) - 2.3のパターンはいいけど1.2が不自然
  8. 01:42:901 - 02:02:101 - Insaneとのバランスも兼ねて３連打いれておいてもいいかも。
[Insane]
  1. 01:55:351 (2) - 1/1sliderじゃなくて3/4sliderにして 01:55:726 (3) - これを 01:55:651 - ここからスタートにしたほうが自然かも。
Extraはlooks fine. Call me back ~
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

[Easy N/A]
  1. NormalのODを4にして頂く予定なのでHardのODは6なのでOD+1か+2したほうがmapset全体のバランスを見ると良くなると思います。リズムに関しても譜面全体が７割Sliderを占める+裏の音がはっきりしている箇所にサークルも配置されているので、リズムが困難ではないのでOD0にする理由もないと思います。
    :arrow: 2年前同様にno。
    この曲では様々なタイミングのズレがオブジェクト間で存在していること、そしてBPM200という高い数値であることは無視できない点です。

    一例として00:27:751 (1) - では叩くタイミングが前とは違い、目押し成分(あるいは曲の熟知成分)があり、以前のリズムパターンそのままに当てはめた場合は00:27:901 - に、しかし実際のオブジェクトは00:27:751 - にあり、この差は単純計算で150ms。譜面コンセプトとしてメロディーに無理矢理な解釈をして強引な音取りをするよりも曲に素直に従う形にしたいので、こういった些細なところでもOD2と0の差は少なからず現れると思っています。
    300も10ms分判定が緩くなるのでSSも安易になります。

    OD0|50score ±199.5/2ms、OD2|50score ±179.5/2ms
    OD0はどちらか一方に100msズレても一応繋げるのに対し、OD2では90msまでしかズレは許されません。この10msというのは大きくBPM200で指が間に合わないという自体を少しでも緩和する手段の一つとして有効だと思われます。
    01:39:751 (3,1,2) - などでもBPM200でありながら1/1でオブジェクトが3連続、内中央に1サークルなので、スライダーでなぞってからのサークルをクリックという一連の動作に慣れていないプレイヤーに対し、
    BPM200での少し複雑で難しいスキルを求めていると思っている為、OD2比較で10msの余裕があってより300を出しやすいOD0を選択するのは十分正当だという認識をしています。
    少しでもstandardに慣れていれば簡単にSSが取れるのがEasyのあるべき姿であると考えていて、Easyとしては難しい部類に入るこれに対してODを上げるという処置は考えていません。

    BNとして脅せば渋々上げるけど。
  2. 00:19:501 (2,3) - Missing Distance snap. 調整してください。
    :arrow: これは誤差の範囲に収まると考えられます。そのポイントで言えばx座標を4(Tiny1マス)移動させるだけで0.78となり、その1マスにそれほど大きな意味合いは存在しません。スライダー速度に反比例する形でこの倍率は変わるため、SV1.4などと比較した際に数字が大きく見えるだけです。
    加えて言えば、前後のオブジェクトを含めた3つのスライダーが同時に表示されないこともあり、プレイヤーがその僅かな違いを感じ取る可能性は低いということが推測できます。この誤差レベルの数字以上にプレイに影響すると予想される要素を見つけてくれれば再考します。
  3. 01:27:451 (1) - Remove New combo. ここに新しいNcは不要です。Nc spamとなり、好ましくないです。
    :arrow: そのパートは曲調も穏やかになり、また3/1という変則的なものになるため、ここでのアクセントとして置かれたNCです。副次的なものとしてオブジェクトの密度の低下に起因するドレインの実質的な上昇に対する対抗策としての効果も僅かにありますが、アクセントとして置いているというのがここでの主となる理由です。
  4. 01:36:751 (2) - 少し次への間隔は開いていますが、Easy diffでDistanceが広くなることは好ましくないです、違った形へと変更してください。
    :arrow: you are sateright
    狭い側ではなく遠い側に0.2はさすがに目をつけられると面倒そうなので

Quoteだと画像小さく表示されるので補足情報として

ty satelitte

code 15-12-06 
osu file format v14

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Title:Towa yori Towa ni
TitleUnicode:永久より永遠に
Artist:marina
ArtistUnicode:marina
Creator:terametis
Version:Easy N/A
Source:少女神域∽少女天獄 -The Garden of Fifth Zoa-
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Edit2:
上記のコードのアップデート。
  1. ODに関する問題を渋々修正。ただし2という提案そのままの形では採用せず1へ下方修正。
  2. オブジェクトの距離間に関する修正の再修正。ただし距離間は依然として完璧には程遠い。
Edit3:
上記コードのアップデート。
  1. DSの問題を修正。ただし好きではない。
Last edited by NewRulerNA , edited 3 times in total.
-Nanaka-
815 posts
ed July 2013
いうてOD0はQATに目つけられそうだけどなぁ、２年前ならまだしも今は厳しそう
0から4もうーんって感じしない？

Edit:るーらーしのろじっくは分からんでもないけど私がModしてもさてらいとさんと同じ意見だし、0から3も対して変わらないと思う1.5あたりで妥協した方が無難だと思う
客観的意見だから気を悪くしないでクレメンス
Last edited by -Nanaka- , edited 1 time in total.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

Recheck time. No kds pls =3=/

[General]
  1. Unrankableになり得る可能性がある緑線です、Slider Velocityを変更しない場合は赤線を調節して不要な緑線は消してください。
    また、Slider Velocityを変更している場合でも赤線のSamplesetとVolumeは緑線か赤線のどちらかに統一してください。全難易度で確認してみてください。

    :arrow: 了解です
[Normal]
  1. OD+1 Hard -> Insaneのspreadを詰めるので、Normal ->Hardのspead調整のために上げませんか？
    :arrow: NA選手の設定が変わらない場合0→4になるので保留します
    :arrow: 4に変更
  2. 00:30:751 (2,3,1) - この間隔はプレイする際にわかりづらいと思います。以下の音取りを試してください。

    :arrow: 頂いた音取りでは無いですが、別なリズムに変更しました
  3. 00:41:851 (3) - できればDS通りに配置したほうが好ましいです。一応、提案置いておきます。変更したくない場合はせめてNewcomboをいれてあげると視認性の問題も向上すると思います。
    img
    :arrow: NCをつける方向で変えました
  4. 00:46:351 (2) - 細かいですがDSズレしているので直してください。
    :arrow: Fixed
  5. 00:51:451 (2) - 00:41:851 (3) - こちらと同様の理由です。
    :arrow: NCをつける方向で変えました
    Easyがある上でのNormalかつ、前noteから十分な間隔があると判断しています
  6. 01:03:451 (4,1) - ちょっと単調すぎる？パターンをここだけ変えてメロディに合わせるといいかもしれません。

    :arrow: 1/2で単発→スライダーとか単発→単発みたいな連続で完全に押させるパターンを譜面とおして作っていないのでnoで！
    上記パターンを除外すると、一個前のパートのパターンとまったく同じ構成になるので、この構成になってました
  7. 01:10:051 (2) - 01:15:751 (2) - 01:48:751 (2) - 細かいですがDSズレしているので直してください。
    :arrow: 01:15:751のKIAI前のみそのままにします。
  8. 02:19:051 (1,2,3,4) - DSバラバラにするのはマズい・・・！こういうのはどうですか？
    img
    :arrow: 駄目かな(にっこり)
  9. 全体を通して細かなDSのズレが目立ちます・・・*0.05あたりなら問題ありませんが*0.10くらいズレているのは直したほうがいいかもしれません。
    :arrow: 特に意味が無く前後でx0.1以上ずれてるやつはすべて修正しました。

    • DSずれたままリスト
    1. 00:23:101 (1) - 前noteと十分な間隔があると判断
    2. 00:32:251 (1,2) - ^
    3. 00:40:051 (2,1) - ^
    4. 00:51:451 (1) - ^
    5. 01:16:051 (1) - 気合前でちょっと盛り上げ感をアッピル
    6. 01:31:051 (1) - SV変更で前パートの間隔に合わせた為
    7. 01:38:251 (1) - 前noteと十分な間隔があると判断
    8. 02:19:051 (1,2,3,4,1) - ﾆｺｯ
[Insane]
  1. 01:55:351 (2) - 1/1sliderじゃなくて3/4sliderにして 01:55:726 (3) - これを 01:55:651 - ここからスタートにしたほうが自然かも。
    :arrow: 直しました!!
Extraはlooks fine. Call me back ~
ありがとう!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
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[Easy NA]

  • NewRulerNA wrote: 276nw

    Satellite wrote: 271f1s

    [Easy N/A]
  1. NormalのODを4にして頂く予定なのでHardのODは6なのでOD+1か+2したほうがmapset全体のバランスを見ると良くなると思います。リズムに関しても譜面全体が７割Sliderを占める+裏の音がはっきりしている箇所にサークルも配置されているので、リズムが困難ではないのでOD0にする理由もないと思います。
    :arrow: 2年前同様にno。
    この曲では様々なタイミングのズレがオブジェクト間で存在していること、そしてBPM200という高い数値であることは無視できない点です。

    一例として00:27:751 (1) - では叩くタイミングが前とは違い、目押し成分(あるいは曲の熟知成分)があり、以前のリズムパターンそのままに当てはめた場合は00:27:901 - に、しかし実際のオブジェクトは00:27:751 - にあり、この差は単純計算で150ms。譜面コンセプトとしてメロディーに無理矢理な解釈をして強引な音取りをするよりも曲に素直に従う形にしたいので、こういった些細なところでもOD2と0の差は少なからず現れると思っています。
    300も10ms分判定が緩くなるのでSSも安易になります。

    OD0|50score ±199.5/2ms、OD2|50score ±179.5/2ms
    OD0はどちらか一方に100msズレても一応繋げるのに対し、OD2では90msまでしかズレは許されません。この10msというのは大きくBPM200で指が間に合わないという自体を少しでも緩和する手段の一つとして有効だと思われます。
    01:39:751 (3,1,2) - などでもBPM200でありながら1/1でオブジェクトが3連続、内中央に1サークルなので、スライダーでなぞってからのサークルをクリックという一連の動作に慣れていないプレイヤーに対し、
    BPM200での少し複雑で難しいスキルを求めていると思っている為、OD2比較で10msの余裕があってより300を出しやすいOD0を選択するのは十分正当だという認識をしています。
    少しでもstandardに慣れていれば簡単にSSが取れるのがEasyのあるべき姿であると考えていて、Easyとしては難しい部類に入るこれに対してODを上げるという処置は考えていません。
  2. この曲では様々なタイミングのズレがオブジェクト間で存在していること、そしてBPM200という高い数値であることは無視できない点です。
    :arrow: BPM200ですがBPM200のmappingではないので無視しても大丈夫な内容に思えます。"様々なタイミングのズレがオブジェクト間で存在"こちらに関しては同意です、"Easyだけ"を見るとOD0で問題ない理由になりますが、Normal -> Hardとのdiff spreadをチェックした際、OD0では好ましくないです。mapset バランスを考慮して頂けるのであればOD+2が提案です。わが道を行くとしたとしてもOD+1はご協力して頂きたいところですがどうしてもキープしたいのであればこのまま通します。
  3. 01:36:751 (2) - 次へのパターンに関しては以前のmod通り修正できていますが、手前からのDSが崩れています
[Normal]
  1. 02:19:051 (1,2,3,4) - ここだけは厳しいかもしれません・・・。別の提案してみます・・・。
    img
Hardのreplyとこちらのpostのreplyが着たら呼んでください~


-Nanaka- wrote: 66122y

いうてOD0はQATに目つけられそうだけどなぁ、２年前ならまだしも今は厳しそう
0から4もうーんって感じしない？

Edit:るーらーしのろじっくは分からんでもないけど私がModしてもさてらいとさんと同じ意見だし、0から3も対して変わらないと思う1.5あたりで妥協した方が無難だと思う
客観的意見だから気を悪くしないでクレメンス
osu!のルールだけで見ると0でも問題ありませんが、Mapsetバランスで見ると0は極端かもしれませんね。
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

recheck
[Normal]
  1. 02:19:051 (1,2,3,4) - ここだけは厳しいかもしれません・・・。別の提案してみます・・・。
    img
    :arrow: DSがバラバラにならないように修正しました(DSx1.1)
    もし駄目だったら素直にsattelliitte選手の案にします(にっこり)
:arrow: 付け加えてODを4に変更


判定お願いします！！！
wring
596 posts
ed February 2010

Ranger wrote: 631f6q

[wring's Hard]

00:16:051 (1) - how about make pattern like this? it`s match the music more i think hmm, changed some patterns :D

00:35:401 (1) - add whistle here no
00:56:851 (4) - add finish here? ok
01:30:751 (5,1) - it`s too far :o how e Ctrl + G? ok

Satellite wrote: 271f1s

[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:16:051 (1) - 音取りこのままでもいいけど、こっちのほうが合ってない？ ↑と同じ
  2. 00:20:851 (1) - こっちも同様に！
  3. 00:54:451 (1,2,3) - 形はきれいだけど流れ悪いから、違う形に変えたほうがいいです。 ok
  4. 01:03:451 (6,7) - ちょっと飛びすぎかも。 ok
  5. 01:24:451 (5) - Ncいれませんか？ u-n? ok
  6. 01:30:751 (5,1) - もーちょい近づけたい ↑と同じ
  7. 01:34:651 (1,2,3) - 2.3のパターンはいいけど1.2が不自然 c+g
  8. 01:42:901 - 02:02:101 - Insaneとのバランスも兼ねて３連打いれておいてもいいかも。 hai
thanks
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Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
Okay ~ Looks fine! Here we go ~
smallboat
1,687 posts
ed January 2010
Sorry although i check some diff are fine except extra diff which i need to pop it

I find a problem at unsnap in Extra (01:39:151 (5) - ) :

Fix this and post a fix let me know
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
Fixed
sorry for stupid mistake...
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
terametis chan baka xddd

/me baka...
smallboat
1,687 posts
ed January 2010
Okay still looks dine and confirm fixed, reb it
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012

Garven wrote: 3w455y

Fuck yeah marina!
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010
finally
Underforest
5,895 posts
ed July 2015
ez is so hard with DT ;_;

anyway, good map :) and congrats
litoluna
1,079 posts
ed April 2011
omedetou dessssssu :D
sheela
2,651 posts
ed October 2011
Hello terametis! I would like to throw some opinions that would need attention.

[Easy N/A]
  1. 01:07:051 (1) - 01:11:851 (1) - You could do something else other than repeating the slider four times twice. I feel like you were lazy to do so lol.
  2. 01:56:251 (2) - Ah, this slider's border touches the bar! You would want to lower it down.
It's weird how this difficulty follows and starts mostly the drum, but this is should be all right.

[Normal]
  1. 00:32:251 (1,2) - This rhythm suddenly becomes two hitcircles with big gaps. I actually thought they were like 1/1 rhythms, after 00:31:201 (3) . Cutting the rhythm after the slider doesn't fit and play very well. I would continue the rhythm with this:
    Rhythm
  2. 00:39:451 (1,2,1) - The spacing requires some regularity. The movement to object to another is uncomfortable to play, and tend to get the players confused.
[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:33:751 (4,5,1) - 00:34:951 (4,5,1) - What is with the big spacing? It totally doesn't fit with the music, and it kind of adds a spike to the difficulty.
  2. 00:37:951 to 00:44:851 - 00:47:551 to 00:52:051 - The spacing es to 0.80x, to 1.20x, making it a big inconsistency. Both parts are literally on a same tone. So why making them inconsistent in spacing? This makes it quite confusing whether it's a 1/1 rhythm or a 1/2 rhythm. You should stick with a short distance all the time in this part, I think it makes a better fit when the music goes all soft.
[Insane]
  1. 00:32:851 (1) - Because of the similar spacing of 00:31:951 (2,3) and 00:32:251 (5,6) -, the note acted like if it was on the red tick. I suggest you move it a little far from its previous hitcircle. Probably a distance of 1.12x would fit.
  2. 01:20:551 (5) - There should be a clickable object on the downbeat 01:20:851 since the part with strong beats start from this measure, making it emphasized.
  3. 01:46:426 (4) - Overmapped from the stream.
  4. 01:53:251 (3,1) - I don't get what these sliders are supposed to follow. It makes the rhythm sound weird to me. It's better to stick with 1/2 sliders in my opinion.
  5. 01:55:651 (3) - The 1/4 repeat slider, all along to the next stream, hits inaudible sounds, which makes it overmapped.
[Extra]
  1. Don't you think some combos are pretty high? They sometimes reach up until 15, even 19! And they are found in streams. I think they should need a new combo. Here's some examples:
    1. 00:22:651 (6) - A new combo fits very well with the gap before.
    2. 00:27:301 (7) -
    3. 00:31:876 (6) - This one reaches to 19!
      and many more.
  2. 01:53:701 (5) - This follows weirdly the music. It's better to keep the rhythm at 1/2 for this part, it would really emphasize it. And also, you skipped an essential beat on 01:53:851 .
  3. 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - These streams are pretty much overmapped, and they need to be simplified. I can't hear anything besides the red and white ticks.
  4. 02:16:651 to 02:19:051 - This part plays more intensely compared to 02:19:051 to 02:20:551 . But you emphasized it wrong. The 02:19:051 part should be more intense due to the loud and strong beats. You should make 02:16:651 less intense, and increase it for 02:19:051 .
Overall, there is still room for improvements. Make sure that your objects are hitting any beat, otherwise it will get overmapped. The emphasis is also a strong key to mapping. Depending on the beats, the objects, the rhythms, the spacing, and etc. must go with them. Also lower your combos in the high difficulties, as they tend to get big!
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,498 posts
ed February 2009
Let's figure out if sheela's concerns are applicable and offer an opportunity to improve this mapset even more!

Try to find a conclusion on that!
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
ed December 2010
While we are at it, Tick Rate on Easy should be set to 1. There is no point in using anything more intense than that.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
My English skill is very very very poor.
sorry :(

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

[Normal]
  1. 00:32:251 (1,2) - This rhythm suddenly becomes two hitcircles with big gaps. I actually thought they were like 1/1 rhythms, after 00:31:201 (3) . Cutting the rhythm after the slider doesn't fit and play very well. I would continue the rhythm with this:
    Rhythm
    :arrow: I followed stringed sound. and enough to beat interval. so, keep it.
  2. 00:39:451 (1,2,1) - The spacing requires some regularity. The movement to object to another is uncomfortable to play, and tend to get the players confused.
    :arrow: If player miss here, he should play Easy. There is enough too much interval to see. I don't think change this diff for super bigginer.
[Insane]
  1. 00:32:851 (1) - Because of the similar spacing of 00:31:951 (2,3) and 00:32:251 (5,6) -, the note acted like if it was on the red tick. I suggest you move it a little far from its previous hitcircle. Probably a distance of 1.12x would fit.
    :arrow: This diff set AR9 so player can read 1/1 interval I think.
  2. 01:20:551 (5) - There should be a clickable object on the downbeat 01:20:851 since the part with strong beats start from this measure, making it emphasized.
    :arrow: I want emphasized 01:21:001~, so I set this slider.
  3. 01:46:426 (4) - Overmapped from the stream.
    :arrow: If you say this kind overmapped, almost map is overmapped. Interpretation is free of mapper. I can find like this from Qualified. and, Most of these are sensuous.
  4. 01:53:251 (3,1) - I don't get what these sliders are supposed to follow. It makes the rhythm sound weird to me. It's better to stick with 1/2 sliders in my opinion.
    :arrow: Because there is a super-long voice. 1/2 here forever? NO. Boring shit.
  5. 01:55:651 (3) - The 1/4 repeat slider, all along to the next stream, hits inaudible sounds, which makes it overmapped.
    :arrow: Sing a long note here. Stream is sensuous.
[Extra]
  1. Don't you think some combos are pretty high? They sometimes reach up until 15, even 19! And they are found in streams. I think they should need a new combo. Here's some examples:
    1. 00:22:651 (6) - A new combo fits very well with the gap before.
    2. 00:27:301 (7) -
    3. 00:31:876 (6) - This one reaches to 19!
      and many more.
    :arrow: Fixed only 00:22:651 (6).
    About 19 combo. If you think it is bad, you should write a reason. It is not a reason 19 combos.
  2. 01:53:701 (5) - This follows weirdly the music. It's better to keep the rhythm at 1/2 for this part, it would really emphasize it. And also, you skipped an essential beat on 01:53:851 .
    :arrow: same as Insane.
  3. 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - These streams are pretty much overmapped, and they need to be simplified. I can't hear anything besides the red and white ticks.
    :arrow: 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream in Long tone is sensuous.
    :arrow: 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
    :arrow: 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - hmm, I will try to hear to players opinion about here.
  4. 02:16:651 to 02:19:051 - This part plays more intensely compared to 02:19:051 to 02:20:551 . But you emphasized it wrong. The 02:19:051 part should be more intense due to the loud and strong beats. You should make 02:16:651 less intense, and increase it for 02:19:051 .
    :arrow: I'm really sorry. don't understand well in my bad English skill. Perhaps, it's about the size of the jump?
    Although it is about my intention,　Part A is 02:16:651 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3). Part B is 02:19:051 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1).
    Part B is need emphasize because end of song. so, Part A placed more emphasize part B.
thanks for opinion :3
sheela
2,651 posts
ed October 2011
If you're saying that streams are for long notes, then sliders would fit better at its place, since the note is held. I still don't think you should put streams in parts that don't allow it. Especially 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream comes from out of blue, when the build-up starts 01:24:451 -, making it nonsense. But some cases I do agree is that if you want to add something before an intense part, like a triplet that would introduce it. I still think that you should simplify the streams I mentioned. If you still disagree, then for streams like 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - , make them more compact in order to emphasize the following.

When it comes to big combos, it's best to add a new combo somewhere, where it should fit. There's sometimes readability issues when someone plays the map in CtB because the plate is piling up the fruits, making it hard to see the dropping fruits. Honestly, I can't think of a reason of standard gameplay, but it just doesn't suit much with the map. and it's unnecessary numbers.

At the last part (part A and part B), logically, part B should have bigger jumps than part A. This is because the drums gets stronger and loud compared to part A. To solve this, part A needs lesser big jumps, and for part B, it needs bigger jumps.


Now into another part,
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:251 (1,2) - But is it really okay to just let two circles with big different gaps between to follow the string sound? The slider ends the rhythm abruptly, making it sound so weird. Plus the two circles are following another sound, but the previous ones follows mostly one instrument, which makes a kind of inconsistency. I highly recommend to follow what I suggested.
    00:39:451 (1,2,1) - The players play what they want to play, and making this pattern hard to read with weird movement is not a good thing. Basically, what you said about players to play Easy is not a good reason.
[Insane]
  1. 01:20:551 (5) - It would be nice if you elaborate more your reason. The measure that starts on 01:20:851 introduce a whole new rhythm, so a hitcircle would really emphasize that measure.
I hope this wording should help a little more the map.
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

[Easy N/A]
  1. 01:07:051 (1) - 01:11:851 (1) - You could do something else other than repeating the slider four times twice. I feel like you were lazy to do so lol.
    :arrow: maybe I was lazy but I want to put a gap for an accent because melody is changing around 01:06:451 - .
  2. 01:56:251 (2) - Ah, this slider's border touches the bar! You would want to lower it down.
    :arrow: visibility is enough so I don't take care about that but moved for you lol
thank you

Bakari wrote: 2o2d6z

While we are at it, Tick Rate on Easy should be set to 1. There is no point in using anything more intense than that.
:arrow: there are multiple length of slider, so it seems like tick sound(s) is always incomplete on a slider that start on red tick.

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terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
I'm sorry again.
My English skill is very poor so don't write good sentence.

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

If you're saying that streams are for long notes, then sliders would fit better at its place, since the note is held. I still don't think you should put streams in parts that don't allow it. Especially 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream comes from out of blue, when the build-up starts 01:24:451 -, making it nonsense. But some cases I do agree is that if you want to add something before an intense part, like a triplet that would introduce it. I still think that you should simplify the streams I mentioned. If you still disagree, then for streams like 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - , make them more compact in order to emphasize the following.
:arrow: hmm. I'm sorry. Write again, my opinion, stream is match to long tone. And these I believe to entertain player. So I don't care not allowed from you about this.

When it comes to big combos, it's best to add a new combo somewhere, where it should fit. There's sometimes readability issues when someone plays the map in CtB because the plate is piling up the fruits, making it hard to see the dropping fruits. Honestly, I can't think of a reason of standard gameplay, but it just doesn't suit much with the map. and it's unnecessary numbers.
:arrow:

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

I can't think of a reason of standard gameplay,
that's all.
I think pattern of NC in this part, like these.
00:23:101 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:23:101 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
Of these, I chose the above. Honestly, don't care CtB or 19 cobmos.

At the last part (part A and part B), logically, part B should have bigger jumps than part A. This is because the drums gets stronger and loud compared to part A. To solve this, part A needs lesser big jumps, and for part B, it needs bigger jumps.
:arrow: I'm sorry if you had been misread in my words. My English is so poor...
You said increase of the jump for emphasize(for gaps jumpsize part A and Part B), but I don't agree it. Increase of the jump is not the only way of emphasis I think. Part B suitable for drums and reset flow by 02:18:751 (2,3). This configuration is good enough for me.

Now into another part,
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:251 (1,2) - But is it really okay to just let two circles with big different gaps between to follow the string sound? The slider ends the rhythm abruptly, making it sound so weird. Plus the two circles are following another sound, but the previous ones follows mostly one instrument, which makes a kind of inconsistency. I highly recommend to follow what I suggested.
    :arrow: hmm. In my opinion same as before. but I'm not newbie player, so don't understand their. I tried to another pattern for enjoying all players. Please give me check again.
    00:39:451 (1,2,1) - The players play what they want to play, and making this pattern hard to read with weird movement is not a good thing. Basically, what you said about players to play Easy is not a good reason.
    :arrow: same as above
[Insane]
  1. 01:20:551 (5) - It would be nice if you elaborate more your reason. The measure that starts on 01:20:851 introduce a whole new rhythm, so a hitcircle would really emphasize that measure.
    :arrow: I agree, your suggestion is one of way. But now state is enough good.
    (I feel well fit 01:21:001 (1-4,1-8) for this song. And, as a complement, 1:20: 551 (5) - is not bad.)
    I tried your opinion, but can't more good by me. If possible, I am glad when you put code by your suggestion. It has potential.
thanks again :3
wring
596 posts
ed February 2010

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:33:751 (4,5,1) - 00:34:951 (4,5,1) - What is with the big spacing? It totally doesn't fit with the music, and it kind of adds a spike to the difficulty.
    Sorry I think it goes well in these parts. And I intended to set those.
  2. 00:37:951 to 00:44:851 - 00:47:551 to 00:52:051 - The spacing es to 0.80x, to 1.20x, making it a big inconsistency. Both parts are literally on a same tone. So why making them inconsistent in spacing? This makes it quite confusing whether it's a 1/1 rhythm or a 1/2 rhythm. You should stick with a short distance all the time in this part, I think it makes a better fit when the music goes all soft.
    No. Your point showed only 00:49:051 (3,4) - but they're just jumps. I don't think soft part jump makes players confusing even if a hard diff used it. And 00:50:851 (2,3) - is a pair slider, it lead the next jump smoothly at 00:52:051 (1,2,3,4) - . I can understand your opinion ing 0.80x, but in 00:47:551 to 00:52:051 -, I need to put and lead music rhythm to next strong part. Inconsistent spacing doesn't suit for me in these parts according to my sense. Especially 00:49:651 (1,2,3) - could put 0.80x but it's too strange for me to play. So sorry no changed.
Thanks mod
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
I'm waiting sheela because DQ by his opinion :3

Edit:
I asked him 9 days ago for recheck but he don't come. :(
It is very sad, but he wouldn't check my map. so I look for another person.
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
!summon sheela www
sheela
2,651 posts
ed October 2011
Sorry terametis. During the vacation, I honestly didn't have motivation to mod anything besides playing. And I was kind of down when you and wring deny most of my opinions, but that isn't the main point that I didn't mod during the break. You can search for another person, or wait again until I reply to this thread again.
sheela
2,651 posts
ed October 2011
Alright, here's my recheck. Sorry again for the delay.

[General]
  1. There's only three words in the tags, and two are names. You should add more, like short version ending ed shoujo shiniki tengoku eikyuu yori eien ni キミ∽ツナグ kimi ~ tsunagu shoujo shiniki ~.
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:926 (1) - I'm not sure if you made a mistake, but shouldn't the spinner be on the downbeat 00:32:851 - ?
[Extra]
  1. 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The streams I think overmapped won't be changed because of your reasons. So, my alternative suggestion is to shorten the spacing for this stream, or even stacked them all up, to make a better emphasis for what will come after due to the drums that are cleared and noticeable (basically 01:56:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ).
  2. 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - This is for the same thing as what's above (for 02:05:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - )
  3. 02:14:251 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:14:701 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ^ (and this is for 02:15:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - )
  4. 02:01:051 (1,2,3,4) - Because of 02:01:126 (2,3) for not being consistent with the spacing, it actually bothers me to see it and I needed to point it out. So make this spacing constant and it should be fine.
  5. 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I did say this in my previous replies, but I seriously don't see what's the point of adding a stream here, when it doesn't currently match with the tone in this part, and that bothers me a lot. Ugh, I wish I could elaborate more, but my writing has a limit.
Alright, this may not be much, but it should be final from me. Good luck with the re-qualification!

some bla bla only for terametis lel
With the previous replies, I felt that I was imposing my mapping style into this map, and this is completely wrong from me. If you felt that way, I deeply apologize. I do still think that this map needs some more work, as this is not in our "generation", but it should make it to ranked in its current state. I also maybe could write more suggestions, but they would "forcedly" make this map into my own map. So, I just want to say sorry if I'm making you feel bad, and good luck to what will come to your mapset.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

sheela901 wrote: 3n562

Alright, here's my recheck. Sorry again for the delay.

[General]
  1. There's only three words in the tags, and two are names. You should add more, like short version ending ed shoujo shiniki tengoku eikyuu yori eien ni キミ∽ツナグ kimi ~ tsunagu shoujo shiniki ~.
    :arrow: added shoujo shiniki tengoku
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:926 (1) - I'm not sure if you made a mistake, but shouldn't the spinner be on the downbeat 00:32:851 - ?
    :arrow: sorry for my stupid mistake. fixed
[Extra]
  1. 01:55:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The streams I think overmapped won't be changed because of your reasons. So, my alternative suggestion is to shorten the spacing for this stream, or even stacked them all up, to make a better emphasis for what will come after due to the drums that are cleared and noticeable (basically 01:56:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ).
    :arrow: umm, I understand your opinion and nice pointed out. However, this map has care of the flow.
    Honestly, I don't have experience of that kind of streams. Improve flow and put them.
    It is too hard for me.
  2. 02:05:551 (6,7,8,9) - This is for the same thing as what's above (for 02:05:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - )
    :arrow: It feels to have been sufficiently emphasized by flow
  3. 02:14:251 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:14:701 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - ^ (and this is for 02:15:451 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - )
    :arrow: Wait a minute, there is a sound of the drum. 02:14:251 (1,2,3,4,5)
  4. 02:01:051 (1,2,3,4) - Because of 02:01:126 (2,3) for not being consistent with the spacing, it actually bothers me to see it and I needed to point it out. So make this spacing constant and it should be fine.
    :arrow: I agree completely.
  5. 01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I did say this in my previous replies, but I seriously don't see what's the point of adding a stream here, when it doesn't currently match with the tone in this part, and that bothers me a lot. Ugh, I wish I could elaborate more, but my writing has a limit.
    :arrow: My opinion is same as before. Emphasis of vocal is "01: 22: 651", "01: 22: 951", and "01: 23: 251". Of these, "01: 22: 951 (3,4) " for drum, "01:23:251 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)" for long tone. They are readable by design I think.
    I want to hear for you. I put stream because "I want put stream"? no.
    You know, this song have many tick sound. If I use them, I can put many many stream.
    ex)01:42:751 (8) - , 01:47:551 (9) - , 02:01:651 (6,7,8,1) -
    But I don't choose it. Because it is not fit for vocal or etc.
    I placed a stream, in which there is a reason for me. I want you to know it.
    sorry for my bad English :(
Alright, this may not be much, but it should be final from me. Good luck with the re-qualification!

some bla bla only for terametis lel
With the previous replies, I felt that I was imposing my mapping style into this map, and this is completely wrong from me. If you felt that way, I deeply apologize. I do still think that this map needs some more work, as this is not in our "generation", but it should make it to ranked in its current state. I also maybe could write more suggestions, but they would "forcedly" make this map into my own map. So, I just want to say sorry if I'm making you feel bad, and good luck to what will come to your mapset.
for sheela
As far as I know, vocal in stream hated from long ago by modder. However, I believe it is not for player. so I put it.
Thanks for checking many times for my old map.
If when I make next one for Ranked then, it maybe to fit modern lel
thanks really <3
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
recheck

Extra :
02:01:051 (1,2,3,4,5) - ?

02:06:376 (8,9) - ?

call me back

Edit : remove widescreen check. and looks fine to me! So Rebubbled ~

Good job sheela901 (´・◡・｀)b
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
ed January 2010
It's back! Fuck yeah!
Aphrodena
299 posts
ed January 2014
Good luck! WE IN THIS TOGETHER

terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Aphrodena wrote: 3j3k4z

Good luck! WE IN THIS TOGETHER

:) :) :) :) :) :)
Sonnyc
7,774 posts
ed June 2008
[General]
  1. Consider making yellow little bit darker. The reverse arrow for yellow combo was a bit hard to read during the kiai.
[Easy NA]
  1. Well the tick sound feels too much imo. Mind using some custom slidertick with a lower volume, or something?
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:551 - Check missing claps. Easy and Hard too.
  2. 01:52:801 (1,1) - Due to the high bpm, the spinner recovery time felt a little insufficient. Ending at 01:54:751 is what I strongly recommend for a low difficulty.
[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:57:151 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why the different spacing?
  2. 02:07:051 - Finish
[Insane]
  1. 00:32:551 (8,1) - I strongly believe this needs a higher spacing to indicate the rhythm properly. Yes it is readable enough, but considering the fast rhythm of the previous triples, placing a higher spacing or rather a total anti-jump would be more intuitive.
  2. 01:57:451 - Finish.
  3. 02:05:851 (10) - Combo went a bit long. Consider NC.
[Extra]
  1. 00:27:601 (10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - I've got a feeling here that you've converted the slider into the stream, and it failed due to the screen resolution. You might want to rearrange this pattern.
  2. 00:49:651 (1,2,3) - Something even closer to 0.4x please. Currently the follow points are visible.
  3. 00:50:551 (3,1) - 00:40:951 (3,4) - Combo consistency.
  4. 01:05:851 (10) - Consider NC since spacing change happened.
  5. 01:26:551 (1,2) - Spacing.
Sonnyc
7,774 posts
ed June 2008
t/442557 Removing the video would be recommended due to the suggestive image. Or you could edit the video to insert some mosaic or something huehue
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter

Sonnyc wrote: 491l5w

[General]
  1. Consider making yellow little bit darker. The reverse arrow for yellow combo was a bit hard to read during the kiai.
[Easy NA]
  1. Well the tick sound feels too much imo. Mind using some custom slidertick with a lower volume, or something?
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:551 - Check missing claps. Easy and Hard too.
  2. 01:52:801 (1,1) - Due to the high bpm, the spinner recovery time felt a little insufficient. Ending at 01:54:751 is what I strongly recommend for a low
    difficulty
    :arrow: change to slider.
[Insane]
  1. 00:32:551 (8,1) - I strongly believe this needs a higher spacing to indicate the rhythm properly. Yes it is readable enough, but considering the fast rhythm of the previous triples, placing a higher spacing or rather a total anti-jump would be more intuitive.
  2. 01:57:451 - Finish.
  3. 02:05:851 (10) - Combo went a bit long. Consider NC.
[Extra]
  1. 00:27:601 (10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - I've got a feeling here that you've converted the slider into the stream, and it failed due to the screen resolution. You might want to rearrange this pattern.
  2. 00:49:651 (1,2,3) - Something even closer to 0.4x please. Currently the follow points are visible.
  3. 00:50:551 (3,1) - 00:40:951 (3,4) - Combo consistency.
  4. 01:05:851 (10) - Consider NC since spacing change happened.
  5. 01:26:551 (1,2) - Spacing.
:arrow: All fixed other.

Sonnyc wrote: 491l5w

https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/forum/t/442557 Removing the video would be recommended due to the suggestive image. Or you could edit the video to insert some mosaic or something huehue
:arrow: ok remove.

thanks for mod really <3
wring
596 posts
ed February 2010

Sonnyc wrote: 491l5w

[wring's Hard]
  1. 00:57:151 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why the different spacing?
  2. 02:07:051 - Finish
both fixed
and some parts fixed especial in kiai time
generalいじってないので、確認よろしくお願いします

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terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
update all diff
Sonnyc
7,774 posts
ed June 2008
00:32:551 - (easy)clap
normal has inconsistent combo color.
NewRulerNA
1,301 posts
ed December 2010

Sonnyc wrote: 491l5w

00:32:551 - (easy)clap
why should put clap? patterns/consepts are different between others. actually, you would not find clap anyplace because I did not put any claps.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
Fixed normal's combo color.
sorry stupid mistake :(
Sonnyc
7,774 posts
ed June 2008
Nominated.
terametis
1,140 posts
ed April 2009
Topic Starter
thanks <3
Satellite
Beatmap Nominator
3,701 posts
ed June 2012
Fuck yeah, marina!

長かった、おめでとう！
Aphrodena
299 posts
ed January 2014
Congrats! :D Another marina song got ranked 8-)
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