{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n DarknessAngel<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,237 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n DarknessAngel<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-15T09:15:35+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Makar wrote:<\/h4><\/blockquote> those wrote:<\/h4><\/blockquote>\/me deeply sighsyou didn't understand what I meant,did you ?I don't want to say more wordswell,it's time to shoot a stargood luck <\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T06:53:56+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n DarknessAngel wrote:<\/h4>Makar wrote:<\/h4><\/blockquote> those wrote:<\/h4><\/blockquote>\/me deeply sighsyou didn't understand what I meant,did you ?I don't want to say more words<\/blockquote>\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u8aaa\u4ed6\u5011\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u505a\u7684\u5716,\u90a3\u9ebc\u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u8b93\u4ed6\u5011\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u7684\u5716,\u8aaa\u51fa\u4f60\u6c92\u6709\u6539\u7684\u539f\u56e0.\"\u6211\u89ba\u5f97\u6211\u7684\u66f4\u597d\"\u662f\u500b\u5f88\u7121\u529b\u7684\u7406\u7531, \u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u7528\u8a9e\u8a00\u8aaa\u51fa\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u4f60\u7684\u66f4\u597d,\u6216\u8005\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u5783\u573e.\u4e5f\u8a31\u4ee5\u540e\u53ef\u4ee5\u5e6b\u52a9\u4ed6\u5011\u66f4\u597d\u7684mod\u5716.\u9019\u7576\u7136\u4e5f\u662f\u505a\u5716\u7684\u5c0d\u81ea\u5df1\u505a\u7684\u5716\u8ca0\u8cac\u4efb\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u8868\u73fe.\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u4ec0\u9ebc\u90fd\u8aaa\u4e0d\u51fa\u4f86\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u5716\u597d\u8655, \u90a3\u9ebc\u53c8\u6191\u4ec0\u9ebc\u8aaa\u4f60\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u5716?Just my 2 cents.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Star Stream<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,039 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Star Stream<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T07:40:17+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Stop being silly guysIf mapper said no, then nosaid yes, then yesneed more explain? Send a PMdon't explode this holy beatmap threadno more discontent\/discussion, respect mappers plzthanksand good luck Miya :3<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n DarknessAngel<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,237 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n DarknessAngel<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T07:59:03+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Star Stream wrote:<\/h4>Stop being silly guysIf mapper said no, then nosaid yes, then yesneed more explain? Send a PMdon't explode this holy beatmap threadno more discontent\/discussion, respect mappers plzthanks<\/blockquote>Thank for this,star stream sorry but I must reply one moreit is the respect for him \u2193 need someone translate these ...<\/span>Mashiro Mito wrote:<\/h4>\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u8aaa\u4ed6\u5011\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u505a\u7684\u5716,\u90a3\u9ebc\u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u8b93\u4ed6\u5011\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u7684\u5716,\u8aaa\u51fa\u4f60\u6c92\u6709\u6539\u7684\u539f\u56e0.\"\u6211\u89ba\u5f97\u6211\u7684\u66f4\u597d\"\u662f\u500b\u5f88\u7121\u529b\u7684\u7406\u7531, \u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u7528\u8a9e\u8a00\u8aaa\u51fa\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u4f60\u7684\u66f4\u597d,\u6216\u8005\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u5783\u573e.\u4e5f\u8a31\u4ee5\u540e\u53ef\u4ee5\u5e6b\u52a9\u4ed6\u5011\u66f4\u597d\u7684mod\u5716.\u9019\u7576\u7136\u4e5f\u662f\u505a\u5716\u7684\u5c0d\u81ea\u5df1\u505a\u7684\u5716\u8ca0\u8cac\u4efb\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u8868\u73fe.\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u4ec0\u9ebc\u90fd\u8aaa\u4e0d\u51fa\u4f86\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u5716\u597d\u8655, \u90a3\u9ebc\u53c8\u6191\u4ec0\u9ebc\u8aaa\u4f60\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u5716?Just my 2 cents.<\/blockquote>\u7d42\u65bc\u6709\u500b\u6703\u4e2d\u6587\u7684\u4eba\u4f86\u4e86\uff0c\u90a3\u6211\u4e5f\u5c31\u80fd\u628a\u610f\u601d\u8868\u9054\u66f4\u6e05\u695a\u4e86\u5427\u5c31\u50cf\u97f3\u6548\uff0c\u4f60\u8a8d\u70ba\u8a2d\u5b9a\u6210\u9019\u6a23\u5b50\uff0c\u807d\u8d77\u4f86\u5f88\u8212\u9069\uff0c\u4f46\u5176\u4ed6\u4eba\u4e0d\u9019\u9ebc\u8a8d\u70ba\u8209\u500b\u4f8b\u5b50\u5427\uff0c\u9810\u8a2d\u7684Normal - 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...<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Miya<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,690 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Miya<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T14:40:20+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Star Stream wrote:<\/h4>Stop being silly guysIf mapper said no, then nosaid yes, then yesneed more explain? Send a PMdon't explode this holy beatmap threadno more discontent\/discussion, respect mappers plzthanksand good luck Miya :3<\/blockquote>Thanks Star for your :3Just end this matter, okay? If you have any problem with this map, just pm me or DarknessAngel. Don't post on this map again.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T15:32:25+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n DarknessAngel wrote:<\/h4>Star Stream wrote:<\/h4>Stop being silly guysIf mapper said no, then nosaid yes, then yesneed more explain? Send a PMdon't explode this holy beatmap threadno more discontent\/discussion, respect mappers plzthanks<\/blockquote>Thank for this,star stream sorry but I must reply one moreit is the respect for him \u2193 need someone translate these ...<\/span>Mashiro Mito wrote:<\/h4>\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u8aaa\u4ed6\u5011\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u505a\u7684\u5716,\u90a3\u9ebc\u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u8b93\u4ed6\u5011\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u7684\u5716,\u8aaa\u51fa\u4f60\u6c92\u6709\u6539\u7684\u539f\u56e0.\"\u6211\u89ba\u5f97\u6211\u7684\u66f4\u597d\"\u662f\u500b\u5f88\u7121\u529b\u7684\u7406\u7531, \u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u7528\u8a9e\u8a00\u8aaa\u51fa\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u4f60\u7684\u66f4\u597d,\u6216\u8005\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u5783\u573e.\u4e5f\u8a31\u4ee5\u540e\u53ef\u4ee5\u5e6b\u52a9\u4ed6\u5011\u66f4\u597d\u7684mod\u5716.\u9019\u7576\u7136\u4e5f\u662f\u505a\u5716\u7684\u5c0d\u81ea\u5df1\u505a\u7684\u5716\u8ca0\u8cac\u4efb\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u8868\u73fe.\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u4ec0\u9ebc\u90fd\u8aaa\u4e0d\u51fa\u4f86\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u5716\u597d\u8655, \u90a3\u9ebc\u53c8\u6191\u4ec0\u9ebc\u8aaa\u4f60\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u5716?Just my 2 cents.<\/blockquote>[spoiler]\u7d42\u65bc\u6709\u500b\u6703\u4e2d\u6587\u7684\u4eba\u4f86\u4e86\uff0c\u90a3\u6211\u4e5f\u5c31\u80fd\u628a\u610f\u601d\u8868\u9054\u66f4\u6e05\u695a\u4e86\u5427 finally some one knows Chinese, so I will express myself clearly this time.\u5c31\u50cf\u97f3\u6548\uff0c\u4f60\u8a8d\u70ba\u8a2d\u5b9a\u6210\u9019\u6a23\u5b50\uff0c\u807d\u8d77\u4f86\u5f88\u8212\u9069\uff0c\u4f46\u5176\u4ed6\u4eba\u4e0d\u9019\u9ebc\u8a8d\u70ba just like the hitsound, I feel that it flows really nicely with the map, but others does not.\u8209\u500b\u4f8b\u5b50\u5427\uff0c\u9810\u8a2d\u7684Normal - hitwhistle\uff0c\u6211\u5f88\u559c\u6b61\u807d\u5225\u4eba\u7528\u9019\u500b\u505a\u51fa\u4e0d\u540c\u82b1\u6a23\u7684\u97f3\u6548\u8b8a\u5316\uff0c\u4f46\u662f\u6709\u4e9b\u4eba\u4e0d\u7ba1\u600e\u9ebc\u6a23\u90fd\u4e0d\u559c\u6b61(\u89ba\u5f97\u5f88\u5435) let me elaborate more on this, the pre-seted Normal - hitwhistle, I really like how some people uses this to do some sifferent style of sound changes, but some people find it really annoying.\u5c31\u50cf\u97f3\u6a02\uff0c\u6bcf\u500b\u4eba\u90fd\u6709\u81ea\u5df1\u559c\u6b61\u7684\u985e\u578b\uff0c\u6d41\u884c\u6a02\u3001\u7235\u58eb\u6a02\u3001\u6292\u60c5\u6b4c...\u7b49\u7b49, Music, everyone have their fev genre, pop, jazz, etc...\u5c31\u50cfflow\u3001\u9084\u6709mapset\uff0c\u81ea\u5df1\u559c\u6b61\u7684\uff0c\u4e5f\u4e0d\u7b49\u65bc\u5176\u4ed6\u4eba\u90fd\u559c\u611b, of couse, the flow, the mapset. it doesn't mean others will like it.\u9019\u7a2e\u4e3b\u89c0\u7684\u6771\u897f\uff0c\u6839\u672c\u5c31\u6c92\u6709\u6240\u8b02\u300c\u5c0d\u8207\u932f\u300dsubjective things like this, there is absolutely no right or wrong.\u4f60\u60f3\u8981\u7372\u5f97\u4e00\u500b\u4ee4\u4f60\u6eff\u610f\u7684\u300c\u7406\u7531\u300d\uff1f you want a satisfied \"reason\"? \u300c\u56e0\u70ba\u6211\u559c\u6b61\u9019\u6a23\u300d\u3002\u9664\u4e86\u9019\u500b\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u4e0d\u5230\u5225\u7684 \"because I like what I did\". other than that, I cannot think of anything else.\u4ed6\u7684MOD\uff0c\u5e7e\u4e4e\u90fd\u5b58\u5728\u8457\u9019\u4e9b\u6027\u8cea their mod, all of them have these kind of characteristics. \u4ed6\u5c31\u4f9d\u7167\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u60f3\u6cd5\uff0c\u53e3\u7121\u906e\u6514\u5730\u628a\u4ed6\u6240\u5e0c\u671b\u7684\u901a\u901a\u5217\u51fa\u4f86, they do what the thinks, and expresses what they desire without any hesitation,\u537b\u6c92\u8003\u616e\u5230\u6574\u9ad4map\u8d70\u5411 but did not consider the map as a whole, where it is heading\u53ea\u8a8d\u70ba\u4ed6\u7684\u5efa\u8b70\"\u5f88\u597d\" only thinks their advices are \"better\".\u5c31\u9023NC\u4e5f\u662f\uff0c\u4ed6\u770b\u4e0d\u51fa\u4f86\u6211\u5230\u5e95\u662f\u600e\u9ebc\u4e0b\uff0c\u600e\u9ebc\u7d71\u4e00NC pattern\u7684 same goes for NC, they do not see how I unify the pattern.\u5c31\u4e00\u5473\u7684\u5217\u51fa\u4ed6\u770b\u4e0d\u9806\u773c\u7684\u5730\u65b9 all they see is distortion everywhere\u9019\u5c31\u662f\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u6211\u8aaa\uff1a\u300c\u4ed6\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u4e00\u500bmapper\u600e\u9ebc\u505a\u300e\u4ed6\u81ea\u5df1\u300f\u7684\u5716\u300d this is why I said \" they do not unerstand a mapper's own map.\u6709\u4e9b\u4e0d\u662f\u9019\u6a23\u6027\u8cea\u7684\u6771\u897f\uff0c\u6211\u5df2\u597d\u597d\u5730\u5217\u51fa\u6211\u7684\u7406\u7531 the ones that are not like this, I have listed my reason fairly well.\u5176\u4ed6\u7684\u5efa\u8b70\uff0c\u96e3\u9053\u6211\u8981\u7528 \"\u4e0d\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u60f3\u6539\uff0c\u56e0\u70ba\u6211\u559c\u6b61\u9019\u6a23\" \u5f9e\u982d\u53cd\u99c1\u5230\u5c3e\u55ce ? but other suggestions, do I really have to wrote \"i dont want to change, I like this\" from beginning to end?\u90a3\u5176\u5be6\u5c31\u8ddf\u55ae\u7d14\u5730\u8aaa\"\u4e0d\u60f3\u6539\"\u4e00\u6a23\u4e86 that is the same as \" I dont want to change\"\u5c31\u56e0\u70ba\u9019\u6a23<\/span><\/span> because of this\u6211\u50c5\u50c5\u56de\u7b54\u4e86\"No\" I just said no.\u9664\u6b64\u4e4b\u5916\uff0c\u6211\u597d\u597d\u5730\u56de\u5fa9\u4e86 other than that, I have relied. \u6211\u8a8d\u70ba\uff0c\u6211\u5df2\u7d93\u76e1\u5230\u4e86\u8cac\u4efb I think I have fulfilled all responsibility. \u8a71\u8aaa\u56de\u4f86\uff0c\u5c0d\u65bc\u6211\u9019\u6a23\u5b50\u7684\u56de\u8986\u65b9\u6cd5\u8b70\u8ad6\u7d1b\u7d1b\u7684\u4f60\u5011 just curious, for people who have criticized the way I reply, \u662f\u62b1\u6301\u8457\u600e\u9ebc\u6a23\u7684\u614b\u5ea6\u5c0d\"\u4e00\u500b\u7d66\u500bkd\u5c31\u5b8c\u4e8b\u4e86\u7684\u4eba\u5011\" ? how about \"just give you a kudos and leave me alone\" sounds to you? <- (I do not know how to translate this accurately). \u662f\u4e0d\u662f\u6211\u4e0d\u56de\u4efb\u4f55\u6771\u897f\uff0c\u5c31\u4e0d\u6703\u6709\u722d\u8ad6\u4e86\u5462 ?<\/span> if I dont reply anything, there will be no more argument?\u5176\u5be6\u4e26\u6c92\u6709\u660e\u6587\u898f\u5b9a\uff0c\"\u88fd\u5716\u8005\u9808\u56de\u5fa9modder\"\u7684\u4e8b\u9805 actually, there is no rule says, mapper must reply mods.\u5e38\u770b\u5230\u6709\u4eba\u5728mod\u7684post\u4e0a\u5beb\u9053\uff1a\u300c\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u62d2\u7d55\u4e86\u4ec0\u9ebc\u5efa\u8b70\uff0c\u9ebb\u7169\u5beb\u4e0b\u7406\u7531\u300d I always see mod says, \"if you rejected some advice, please write down your reason\".\u800c\u90fd\u6c92\u505a\u51fa\u56de\u8986\u7684\u4eba\uff0c\u4e5f\u5927\u6709\u4eba\u5728 but their are tons of people who doesn't do this. \u6211\u771f\u7684\u89ba\u5f97\u5f88\u59d4\u5c48\uff0c\u597d\u597d\u7684\u56de\u61c9\u4e86\uff0c\u537b\u4f86\u4e86\u90a3\u9ebc\u591a\u8ca0\u9762\u8a55\u8ad6 I felt wronged, and I replied accordingly, but in the end all I get are all the negative comments. the line below are for me.\u6700\u5f8c\u88dc\u4e0a\u4e00\u4e9b\u8a71\uff0c\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u60c5\u6cc1\u7684\u65c1\u89c0\u8005\u4e0d\u8981\u96a8\u610f\u7684\u505a\u8a55\u8ad6 \u8001\u5be6\u8aaa\uff0c\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u7684\u7559\u8a00\uff0c\u9813\u6642\u611f\u5230\u767e\u7121\u804a\u8cf4\u3001\u4ee5\u53ca\u7121\u5948\u6211\u5728\u6211\u524d\u4e00\u500b\u5e16\u5b50\u4e0a\u8aaa\u660e\uff1a\u300c\u4e0d\u60f3\u518d\u591a\u8aaa\u4e9b\u4ec0\u9ebc\u300d\u53ef\u4f60\u7121\u77e5\u7684\u591a\u8aaa\u4e86\u9019\u4e9b\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u5f97\u4e0d\u56de\u61c9\u4e9b\u4ec0\u9ebc\u6211\u7684\u56de\u61c9\uff0c\u4e0d\u50c5\u662f\u5c0d\u4f60\u7684\u5c0a\u91cd\uff0c\u4e5f\u662f\u6211\u5fc3\u88e1\u5fc5\u9808\u505a\u51fa\u7684\u56de\u61c9\u7136\u800c\u9019\u7a2e\u4e8b\u8b93\u6211\u611f\u5230\u6975\u5176\u53ad\u7169\u5e7e\u4e4e\u5230\u4e86\u53ad\u60e1\u7684\u7a0b\u5ea6\u5e0c\u671b\u6709\u4eba\u80fd\u7ffb\u8b6f\u9019\u4e9b<\/span>(\u524d\u4e00\u6bb5\u662f\u7d66\u4f60\u7684\u56de\u61c9\uff0c\u5c31\u4e0d\u7528\u4e86)\u6211\u82f1\u6587\u4e0d\u884c\uff0c\u8868\u9054\u80fd\u529b\u4e0d\u8db3\u6240\u4ee5\u624d\u60f9\u4f86\u975e\u8b70\u5427\u4f46\u6211\u4e5f\u5f88\u7121\u529b\uff0c\u82f1\u6587\u80fd\u529b\uff0c\u53c8\u4e0d\u662f\u99ac\u4e0a\u80fd\u5f37\u6c42\u5230\u7684\u6771\u897f ...[spoiler]<\/blockquote>\u6700\u5f8c\u88dc\u4e0a\u4e00\u4e9b\u8a71\uff0c\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u60c5\u6cc1\u7684\u65c1\u89c0\u8005\u4e0d\u8981\u96a8\u610f\u7684\u505a\u8a55\u8ad6 \u8001\u5be6\u8aaa\uff0c\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u7684\u7559\u8a00\uff0c\u9813\u6642\u611f\u5230\u767e\u7121\u804a\u8cf4\u3001\u4ee5\u53ca\u7121\u5948\u6211\u5728\u6211\u524d\u4e00\u500b\u5e16\u5b50\u4e0a\u8aaa\u660e\uff1a\u300c\u4e0d\u60f3\u518d\u591a\u8aaa\u4e9b\u4ec0\u9ebc\u300d\u53ef\u4f60\u7121\u77e5\u7684\u591a\u8aaa\u4e86\u9019\u4e9b\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u5f97\u4e0d\u56de\u61c9\u4e9b\u4ec0\u9ebc\u6211\u7684\u56de\u61c9\uff0c\u4e0d\u50c5\u662f\u5c0d\u4f60\u7684\u5c0a\u91cd\uff0c\u4e5f\u662f\u6211\u5fc3\u88e1\u5fc5\u9808\u505a\u51fa\u7684\u56de\u61c9\u7136\u800c\u9019\u7a2e\u4e8b\u8b93\u6211\u611f\u5230\u6975\u5176\u53ad\u7169\u5e7e\u4e4e\u5230\u4e86\u53ad\u60e1\u7684\u7a0b\u5ea6<\/blockquote>\u611f\u8c22\u4f60\u7684\u56de\u590d, \u6211\u4e5f\u5c3d\u529b\u7684\u7ffb\u8bd1\u4e86\u4e00\u4e0b\u4f60\u7684\u5bf9\u8bdd. \u81f3\u4e8e\u4f60\u8bf4\u7684\u8fd9\u53e5\u8bdd, \u4f60\u8bf4\u7684\u6ca1\u9519, \u6211\u7684\u786e\u6ca1\u6709\u8d44\u683c\u5728\u8fd9\u91cc\u8bc4\u8bba. \u6211\u53ea\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u81ea\u5df1\u4e5f\u60f3\u5f00\u59cb\u505a\u4e00\u4e2a\u56fe, \u800c\u4e14\u60f3\u8fd9\u4e2a\u533a\u968f\u4fbf\u901b\u4e00\u901b\u6765\u5b66\u4e60\u4e00\u4e0b. \u8fd9\u4e2a\u5e16\u5b50\u5bf9\u6211\u4ee5\u524d\u53d1\u7684\u5e16\u5b50\u6709\u70b9\u5171\u9e23, \u6240\u4ee5\u5c31\u52a0\u4e86\u4e00\u811a. \u5982\u679c\u8fd9\u4e2a\u5e16\u5b50\u9020\u6210\u4f60\u7684\u53cd\u611f, \u5bf9\u4e0d\u8d77.Thanks Star for your :3Just end this matter, okay? If you have any problem with this map, just pm me or DarknessAngel. Don't post on this map again.<\/blockquote>just translating and final thoughts.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Mashiro Mito<\/span> 2012-06-16T18:54:38+00:00<\/time>, edited 3 times in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n those<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,135 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n those<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T16:02:06+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n DarknessAngel wrote:<\/h4>Mashiro Mito wrote:<\/h4>\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u8aaa\u4ed6\u5011\u4e0d\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u505a\u7684\u5716,\u90a3\u9ebc\u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u8b93\u4ed6\u5011\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u7684\u5716,\u8aaa\u51fa\u4f60\u6c92\u6709\u6539\u7684\u539f\u56e0.\"\u6211\u89ba\u5f97\u6211\u7684\u66f4\u597d\"\u662f\u500b\u5f88\u7121\u529b\u7684\u7406\u7531, \u4f60\u61c9\u8a72\u7528\u8a9e\u8a00\u8aaa\u51fa\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u4f60\u7684\u66f4\u597d,\u6216\u8005\u70ba\u4ec0\u9ebc\u5783\u573e.\u4e5f\u8a31\u4ee5\u540e\u53ef\u4ee5\u5e6b\u52a9\u4ed6\u5011\u66f4\u597d\u7684mod\u5716.\u9019\u7576\u7136\u4e5f\u662f\u505a\u5716\u7684\u5c0d\u81ea\u5df1\u505a\u7684\u5716\u8ca0\u8cac\u4efb\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u8868\u73fe.\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u4ec0\u9ebc\u90fd\u8aaa\u4e0d\u51fa\u4f86\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u5716\u597d\u8655, \u90a3\u9ebc\u53c8\u6191\u4ec0\u9ebc\u8aaa\u4f60\u4e86\u89e3\u4f60\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u5716?Just my 2 cents.<\/blockquote>\u7d42\u65bc\u6709\u500b\u6703\u4e2d\u6587\u7684\u4eba\u4f86\u4e86\uff0c\u90a3\u6211\u4e5f\u5c31\u80fd\u628a\u610f\u601d\u8868\u9054\u66f4\u6e05\u695a\u4e86\u5427\u5c31\u50cf\u97f3\u6548\uff0c\u4f60\u8a8d\u70ba\u8a2d\u5b9a\u6210\u9019\u6a23\u5b50\uff0c\u807d\u8d77\u4f86\u5f88\u8212\u9069\uff0c\u4f46\u5176\u4ed6\u4eba\u4e0d\u9019\u9ebc\u8a8d\u70ba\u8209\u500b\u4f8b\u5b50\u5427\uff0c\u9810\u8a2d\u7684Normal - 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This will help their ability to mod maps, and is also the responsibility of the mapper. If you're unable (or unwilling) to explain why your map is better than the suggestions given, can you even say that you understand your own map?DarknessAngel:Finally a person used Chinese; now I can express myself more clearly.In regards to hitsounds, what sounds comfortable to you may not sound the same to others. Take the default normal-hitwhistle, for example. I like the way some people use this hitsound to improvise their own hitsound pattern, but others regard it as noisy.Everyone has their own preferences in genre of music, and this relates to flow (and the mapset as well); what you like may not be liked by others.Since this is subjective, there is no definite \"right or wrong\". I cannot give another reason to satisfy the question \"Why is it better?\" except \"Because I like it.\"His (referring to those<\/em>, me) mod contains everything. He proceeded to endlessly rant about his own thoughts, suggestions, listing them one after another without taking into the general direction of the map. He thinks his suggestions are \"very good\". Even new combos, he can't even see what I'm trying to do, but he goes on to talk about what is awkward and what does feel nice. This is why I said, \"you don't understand how a mappers made their map\".For some things that weren't so fitting, I already tried to give a reason. For other suggestions, I feel I'm forced to use \"No, I don't want to change, because I like it that way.\" There's no difference between using \"I won't change\" and \"No\", so I choose to make things simpler by just using the latter. I've already replied nicely, and I feel this is all I can do to be responsible.--and oh Mashiro Mito translated it all.--My final words:If you choose to be so stubborn and ignorant about mapping and modding, stop making maps. Modding is the process in which the and mapper put ideas together in order to make a map better. Unlike you, who can only think about yourself, I think about the community. I think about what's good to play, what's bad to play, what constitutes better, what constitutes worse (note I didn't use the words right or wrong, nor have I ever). You saying nothing but \"No, I won't change it\" shows how much of an ignorant fool you are. In addition, it's truly disrespectful to think you can get away with a great suggestion with a few simple words, just because you can't get yourself to think outside of \"how great your own mapping really is.\" You aren't doing anything but restricting people from trying to understand how your map works. In addition, \"your style\" (the one where you have a 1\/1 delay and you stack on the same spot) can be your \"style\", but the truth is that the flow is horrible, and this will have been mentioned in your maps. It's similar to another mapping using ninja spinners and backing it up with \"I LIEK IT CUZ ITS MA STYLE AND I WONT CHANGEE IT\".Seriously, get over yourself, and learn to accept suggestions, and give reasons otherwise.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Yasora<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,702 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Yasora<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T16:34:40+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n stop this guys '~'now, this thread like an novel orzgive freedom to others, let other do whatever they want.. (but not out from the rules)sorry, miya ;_; jadi nambahin pos deh...<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Miya<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,690 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Miya<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T16:52:19+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n @those : before suggesting something, try to understand mapper style. It's not good if we suggest things that different from mapper style. Especially to the mapper that has own his\/her original maping style. If you suggest something that really against his\/her style, the chance being denied is very high. That's all.Don't post about this matter again<\/strong>. You guys never read this<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Mashiro Mito<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T19:01:11+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Miya wrote:<\/h4>@those : before suggesting something, try to understand mapper style. It's not good if we suggest things that different from mapper style. Especially to the mapper that has own his\/her original maping style. If you suggest something that really against his\/her style, the chance being denied is very high. That's all.Don't post about this matter again<\/strong>. You guys never read this<\/blockquote>This is why you should give reasons not to changing anything, to defend your own mapping style, or help others understand\/learn your map style.Aright. no more.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n those<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,135 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n those<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-06-16T19:23:09+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Miya wrote:<\/h4>@those : before suggesting something, try to understand mapper style. It's not good if we suggest things that different from mapper style. Especially to the mapper that has own his\/her original maping style. If you suggest something that really against his\/her style, the chance being denied is very high. That's all.Don't post about this matter again<\/strong>. You guys never read this<\/blockquote>I would advise against pinning everything to your 'style'. IT is not the 's responsibility to try to understand style, nor can you ever think of getting bad mapping ranked, even if bad mapping is your style.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n 6f1z62