{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Teky<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 359 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2017<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Teky<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-03T18:11:33+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I agree with the idea of more length = less diffs mapped. I am interested to see what people against this idea say and their reasons.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n ranked escape<\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n LwL<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 370 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n LwL<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-04T00:58:22+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n In general regarding extension ban, if it's done (which is hard to do objectively because you can just call it a remix), the rule should be worded as such that you can still extend songs if you want, you just have to still map the spread required for the original length. That would also eliminate the problem with <30 seconds songs. This is simply to allow people to extend songs or maybe use minor remixes that happen to put it past 5 minutes and might be seen as \"lazy edits for extension\" by the relevant people (and such a subjective judgement will be necessary at times since it's simply not possible to 100% objectively determine what is an extension and what is a legitimate remix or compilation).<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Fu Xuan<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,440 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2015<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Fu Xuan<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-04T14:57:47+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n peppy our saviour<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,100 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-10T00:15:14+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n ooooooooookay here's the draft: https:\/\/gist.github.com\/Okorin\/190bc363 ... 919eb8e1cf<\/a>tl;dr of the draft:incorporated the op<\/li>incorporated a draft of the compilation rules staff want that you can read about here: https:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/beatmapsets\/786643\/d ... ll#\/289974<\/a><\/li>incorporated the extension ban peppy requested<\/li>incorporated this proposal: t\/726926<\/a> to enable marathon rules to function for sets where the topdiff is lower than the required lowest difficulty<\/li><\/ol>hope this makes everyone happy<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Pennek<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 493 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Pennek<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-10T00:35:27+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I love you all, what a time to be alive. I really hope these changes go through.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Noffy<\/a>\n\n \n Nomination Assessment Team\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,718 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Noffy<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-10T00:40:12+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 1<\/span>Proposal wrote:<\/h4>Song compilations must incorporate 3 or more songs. Using only 2 songs in a compilation is not a sufficient number of tracks to offer a compelling experience for players when compiled together, and should be broken up into separate mapsets.<\/blockquote>Ooook so... would 2 songs be considered a compilation, or would it go under the other rule about \"The audio file of a song must not be artificially extended in order to meet a time limitation in the mapset section of this criteria. ... If the audio file is extended in such a way, the mapset must still comply with the time limitations of its unaltered audio. Song compilations are not considered extensions, and are exempt from this rule.\"What if one or both of the two songs is already over 5 minutes, but the mapper chose to combine them because they're directly related to eachother? The way this is currently put together would disallow that as well, because that'd still be considered a compilation atm.I think a better approach would be defining \"Compilation\" in the Glossary as an edit which puts together 3 or more songs, and having rules related to the quality of compilations and other edits<\/em> similarly to how they currently are to avoid confusion about this. Then it'd be obvious if a combination of 2 songs would be considered a compilation or an \"artificial extension\" and whether or not it's completely disallowed like the current draft implies<\/em>2<\/span>Proposal wrote:<\/h4>Song compilations must be mixed properly and cannot include abrupt breaks or long fades between different songs. This is to ensure compilations achieve the same cohesive gameplay experience as other beatmaps.<\/blockquote>ok what is a \"long fade\" here? There's no idea how long \"long\" could possibly be.3<\/span>Proposal wrote:<\/h4>The audio file of a song must not be artificially extended in order to meet a time limitation in the mapset section of this criteria. Illegal extensions include (but are not limited to) looping sections of the audio file, lowering the bpm of the song or section of the song, and adding small amounts of music to the song without incorporating it throughout the entire song. If the audio file is extended in such a way, the mapset must still comply with the time limitations of its unaltered audio. Song compilations are not considered extensions, and are exempt from this rule.<\/blockquote>this rule is disallowing extending songs to be over 30 seconds, this isn't accommodating for 30 second songs at all with this wording.Ranking Criteria wrote:<\/h4>Mapsets must have a minimum drain time of 30 seconds. This ensures each ranked map has a practical play-time.<\/blockquote>This is a time limitation<\/strong> in the mapset section<\/strong> of the ranking criteria. Which is exactly what your proposed rule specifies about when extending songs is bad and not allowed.4<\/span>UndeadCapulet wrote:<\/h4>incorporated this proposal: t\/726926 to enable marathon rules to function for sets where the topdiff is lower than the required lowest difficulty<\/blockquote>where? all I see is \"Single-mode mapsets must include a reasonable spread of at least two difficulties. \" which is not that at all. I don't see any exceptions listed, am I blind?<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I may be nowhere close to sparkling stars in the sky, but I at least can light a small candle ablaze in my soul!<\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Okoayu<\/a>\n\n \n Nomination Assessment Team\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 5,008 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Okoayu<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-10T00:45:34+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 1 - they wouldnt they'd count as extension but i can see where you're coming fromwith thisyour second idea about the glossary makes no sense to me because that's in the top of the proposal and there?2 - dunno suggest some value3 - ok we need to exclude 30 seconds from this? i mean i find 30 seconds mapsets pointless but whatever yeah4 - probably not direct enough inclusion of that - yeah i dont see it either rn<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \u2591\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2003\u2003\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2550\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2554\u255d\u2003\u2003\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2550\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2550\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2550\u255d\u2591\u2003\u2003\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u2003\u2003\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u2591\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2588\u2588\u2554\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2591\u2591\u255a\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2554\u255d\u2588\u2588\u2551\u2591\u255a\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2003\u2003\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2554\u255d\u255a\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2554\u255d\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2554\u255d\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2588\u2557\u2591\u255a\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2591\u255a\u2550\u255d\u2591\u2591\u255a\u2550\u255d\u2003\u2003\u255a\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2591\u2591\u255a\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2591\u255a\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d\u2591\u255a\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u2550\u255d<\/span><\/span><\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,100 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n 2018-06-10T00:46:42+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n fuck i knew i forgot something, will get the 30 sec extensions added inand uh yeah noffy you should re-read, bc we took out the 2 diff minimum<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Noffy<\/a>\n\n \n Nomination Assessment Team\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n 3c4rm