{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,100 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T04:45:37+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Again, thank you so much Nao <3And again, thank you Zero__wind for all your help and <3 shame your bubble didn't get to last :c<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Natsu<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 8,088 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Natsu<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T12:48:48+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I wasn't ed at all.@UndeadCapulet you really need to the people involved first, you didn't even tried to me to discuss about your map.@Naotoshi I suppose you also ed Xexxar?The intro is still randomly mapped and that big slider doesn't fit the song at all, tbh you can copy paste it at any song and it would work the same,<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Xexxar<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 913 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Xexxar<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T13:58:10+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n ????????????????????????????????????????????????????yea nice job using an obvious joke as an excuse for breaking bng rules. no thats not reason to void my bubble pop, nor is it reason to ONCE AGAIN go behind my back to try and rank this.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Xexxar<\/a> 2017-04-27T14:30:25+00:00<\/time>, edited 3 times in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Shiirn<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,896 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed August 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Shiirn<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T14:00:49+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n god forbid i sound like i'm agreeing with natsu here butthe start isn't necessarily random<\/em> per se, but it's still completely out of place and does not fit the theme or intention of the map as a whole, and that big slider is still one massive pussy copout.no amount of bullshitting or whining or ranting will change these two facts. why can't you just man up and make these minor changes, UC?<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n _handholding<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,109 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n _handholding<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T14:22:31+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n edit: I've modded this map before, can ppl stop pming me<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by _handholding<\/a> 2017-04-27T22:37:36+00:00<\/time>, edited 1 time in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Nao Tomori<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,078 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Nao Tomori<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-04-27T19:03:56+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I'm not breaking any BNG rules Xexxar, your veto is equivalent to a bubble from Zero__Wind. It resets it to an unbubbled state ofc, and since it's clear that you disagree fundamentally with the map I'm showing my for the mapper by bubbling the map with bubble #1. I'm not going behind your back because your back is not relevant here to go behind. Well, I won't rebubble it again until I talk with Natsu, as I rebubbled on the assumption that he wouldn't veto the map and that he was just modding and providing . Thanks for dropping back in to clear things up!edit: according to Loctav, Xexxar's veto counters both Zero__Wind and my bubbles. On a side note, it seems like making a spread and doing the normal ranking procedure is the best bet for this now!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n neurosis<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 508 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n neurosis<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-05-03T18:03:49+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Shiirn wrote:<\/h4>that big slider is still one massive pussy copout.no amount of bullshitting or whining or ranting will change these two facts. why can't you just man up and make these minor changes, UC?<\/blockquote>are posts like this really necessary? there's almost nothing constructive here.not going to speak much on the rhythms or aesthetics as a whole, but i don't see what's wrong with the slider; UC's mapping is quite obviously sentimental, it's definitely mapped from the perspective of somebody who's listened to the song hundreds, if not thousands of times. i find when someone maps like that, there's overall less pattern and rhythm consistency and more focus on how each part feels to them. while i understand that alone isn't enough of a justification for contentious elements, i'd say the music backs it up too; just after a heavy guitar+drum section, it cuts back to sole piano. even compared to the intro, this is the bottom of the song's rhythm intensity, yet (arguably) the emotional peak - while maika's vocals are relatively steadfast throughout the song, here they start wavering out of control; she literally sounds like she's trying not to cry, breathing and sighing much more, before regaining her stoic composure at the end of the section, i feel like it'd be difficult to map this any other way but still manage to capture that \"holding on\" feeling. every time i get to this part of the song, my heart sinks a little, so i find it a bit weird to call it a copout - the two anchors in it are linked to particularly strong vocals (with the first one even ending a sentence), so it's not just fluff slider art just for the sake of slider art; the way i see it, you could have a traditional rhythm here instead, but it'd still be pretty uneventful and lose most of the emotional impact as well.not sure what's going on with the map right now but some short suggestions:<\/span>SPOILER<\/a>00:16:457 (5) - i like this sound here, but have you tried shortening this slider to the red tick? the spacing to the next note would be a little more uniform, but i'm not sure if it'd play better.00:32:529 (3) - i like how this plays when ctrl+g'd; it flows into the following sliders a little better imo.02:56:727 (4) - aaa, please add a note here, it's so strong<\/div><\/div>good luck!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,100 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-05-04T00:26:23+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n emmy wrote:<\/h4>00:16:457 (5) - i like this sound here, but have you tried shortening this slider to the red tick? the spacing to the next note would be a little more uniform, but i'm not sure if it'd play better. prefer to map the ending beat here<\/span>00:32:529 (3) - i like how this plays when ctrl+g'd; it flows into the following sliders a little better imo. really want the small spacing at 00:32:314 (2,3) - and the direction change at 00:32:529 (3,4) - to separate the lead into the next measure from the previous vocal line<\/span>02:56:727 (4) - aaa, please add a note here, it's so strong there used to be note here but a bunch of people convinced me it'd be better to just stick to the strong drumbeats,<\/span> tho i am going to revise the note placements here and use a trick to show off the cymbal w\/out making it clickable<\/span><\/blockquote>Thank you for the check!And thank you for all the , it means a lot ;w;<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Natsu<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 8,088 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2012<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Natsu<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-05-05T21:42:41+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n We did some IRC, added a whistle and changed a pattern that bother me a lot .About the intro, UC explained it to me beat by beat and I ended understand their idea, even if is not my taste at mapping we should understand that every mapper map in a different way.The long slider was explained multiple times and the mapper has strong feelings about it, I understand his point of view now.About the visuals, not every map needs to be mapped with perfect aesthetics.Anyways the map has been discussed a lot and the opinions about the map are divided, so I think is more about taste instead of real issues, I think is time to bring it another chance, bubbled~<\/strong><\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,100 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n UndeadCapulet<\/a>\n\n \n 2017-05-05T21:44:58+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Thank you so much Natsu! I really appreciate it <3<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Kinshara<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n 61k46