{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n streeteelf<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 439 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n streeteelf<\/a>\n\n \n 2015-07-21T15:54:33+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Ok, here I go. Requested by PM in-game. :v[Grimoire]Sliders seem too fast for me when looking at DS. Especially 00:02:449 - 00:10:033 - all these in the beginning.<\/li>00:23:853 (5) - This slider looks strange for me, try making it maybe like... , but... Nicer. <\/li>00:53:684 (1) - Ctrl+G for better flow?<\/li>00:56:044 (6) - x:272 y:272<\/li>00:56:213 (7) - x:420 y:84<\/li>00:57:224 (5,6,7) - Not too big jumps?<\/li>01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) - Try to move them to make a stright line.<\/li>01:51:999 (1,2,3,4,1) - Confusing part, i suggest... 01:52:336 (2) - x:325 y:314, later 01:52:505 (3) - x:351 y:206 and later 01:52:673 (4) - x:245 y:237<\/li>02:23:516 (5,6,7) - Not too big jumps again?<\/li>02:24:696 (3,4,5,6) - ^<\/li>02:27:054 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - ^<\/li>02:50:988 (1) - WOW! Nice slider!<\/span> Not bad, just my comment :3<\/li>04:11:887 till the end - not overuse of new combos?<\/li><\/ol>I think that's all, nice map, hard, but nice looking. Good luck~ :3<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Slick<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 66 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Slick<\/a>\n\n \n 2015-07-21T16:41:02+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n streeteelf wrote:<\/h4>Ok, here I go. Requested by PM in-game. :v[Grimoire]Sliders seem too fast for me when looking at DS. Especially 00:02:449 - 00:10:033 - all these in the beginning.ed for now<\/span><\/li>00:23:853 (5) - This slider looks strange for me, try making it maybe like... , but... Nicer. fixed<\/span><\/li>00:53:684 (1) - Ctrl+G for better flow? ed<\/span><\/li>00:56:044 (6) - x:272 y:272 ed<\/span><\/li>00:56:213 (7) - x:420 y:84 ^<\/span><\/li>00:57:224 (5,6,7) - Not too big jumps? yeah, might need reduce spacing of them<\/span><\/li>01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) - Try to move them to make a stright line. ed for now<\/span><\/li>01:51:999 (1,2,3,4,1) - Confusing part, i suggest... 01:52:336 (2) - x:325 y:314, later 01:52:505 (3) - x:351 y:206 and later 01:52:673 (4) - x:245 y:237 nice, fixed except for last note (4)<\/span><\/li>02:23:516 (5,6,7) - Not too big jumps again? ed for now<\/span><\/li>02:24:696 (3,4,5,6) - ^ ^<\/span><\/li>02:27:054 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - ^ ^<\/span><\/li>02:50:988 (1) - WOW! Nice slider!<\/span> Not bad, just my comment :3 <\/li>04:11:887 till the end - not overuse of new combos? fixed nc after midge's<\/span> <\/li><\/ol>I think that's all, nice map, hard, but nice looking. Good luck~ :3<\/blockquote>Thank you, streeteelf!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Krimek<\/a>\n\n \n Featured Artist\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 550 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Krimek<\/a>\n\n \n 2015-07-21T19:35:45+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Hello there, mod as requested.Grimoire<\/strong><\/h2><\/center>[Settings]Add combo colours<\/li>I'm not that fan of hitsound volume 70% for kiai, but if you want to keep it, do so. Still I would prefer lower it a bit.<\/li>Arranger is Taishi<\/strong> and the Album\/Circle is from Electro.sinker (C85)<\/strong>. This should be added into metadata. Please find someone who can give you more corect informations.<\/li><\/ol><\/div>[Inherited timing sections]I knew that I could find a few unnecessary greenlines that shouldn't be in. I tried to look which of them don't affect toggle kiai time, sv, hitsound sample packs and\/or volume.<\/em>Here is a list of green lines that are similar to the greenline before and can be delete: <\/span>SPOILER<\/a>00:15:595 - 00:25:033 - 00:31:774 - 00:55:370 - 02:25:875 - 03:11:718 - 04:01:100 -<\/div><\/div>Please keep in mind that even I could have made mistakes, so take one more look and check, if they are actually realy neccessary.Maybe you just forgot to change them for their actual purpose. If so, please fix them.<\/div>[New Combos]You should work on your NCs since there are many missplaced and\/or unneccessary NCs that doesn't fit to the rythm.Please go through your map and try to set logicaly new NCs. It would take way to long to write down all NCs here, but I can make some examples:<\/li><\/ul>00:03:628 (1,1) - Please decide where you want to NC and don't place 2 NCs there<\/li>00:38:853 (1,1,1) - It explains by itself<\/li>00:46:943 (4) - Strong beats like that should be NC<\/li>01:03:291 (1,1) - Again 2 NCs in a row<\/li>03:19:134 (1,2) - Switch NC ...and so on. Try to NC the big white ticks since these are mostly the loudest and most important sounds to be NCed.<\/li><\/ol><\/div>[Rythm & Patterns]01:02:954 (5) - Stuff like this isn't that good because it ends on 01:03:123 -, a strong beat that should not be ignored. Make 01:03:123 -clickable, by changing the slider into 2 circled for example. <\/li>01:15:257 (1) - This is very hard to read since it's stacked with the ending of 01:14:583 (1) -. I'm pretty sure this is unrankable so please change it.<\/li>01:57:055 - I wouldn't ignore it ;w; There is a drum which should be clickable.<\/li>01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7) - imo these quins streams are too spaced and overmapped. It makes this calm part too hard. Maybe less spacing? Applies to the quins as well.<\/li>02:50:988 (1) - Amazing slider!<\/li>03:06:325 (3) - So fucking hard to read, since it's stack and you actually don't expect such a jump.<\/li>03:24:696 - Add object?<\/li>03:51:325 (1,2,3) - This pattern plays kinda weird. I would lower the spacing of 2, maybe this helps out.<\/li>04:21:999 (1,2,1) - People will probably think its a tripple because of the spacing. Change the distance please.<\/li>04:30:679 (4,1) - Spacing please ;w; I like that build up, but this spacing is bit to high, don't you think so?<\/li><\/ol><\/div>I think these are the most important things I've mentioned out.There were a few pattern and jumps I disagree with like 01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7) -, because this does not represent the calm part of the song and plays quite hard. Not that I'm a good player or anything, so I guess what you have now is fine as well.Incidentally, I really like your map. This is so creativ and so fun to play. Keep it up!Good luck!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Krimek<\/a> 2015-07-21T19:51:50+00:00<\/time>, edited 1 time in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Arphimigon<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,681 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Arphimigon<\/a>\n\n \n 2015-07-21T19:44:08+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I'm going to structure this mod a little differently with a lot of talking as well as suggestions okay? Thanks.I'll set it in parts for each part of the music k.<\/span>log one<\/a>21:03 Slick: 80,75?21:03 Arphimigon: 70% just sounds so low imo21:03 Arphimigon: someho21:03 Arphimigon: kiai is good21:04 Slick: or should i leave both kiai and that as 7021:04 Arphimigon: ye may aswell21:04 Arphimigon: 01:44:920 - feels too quiet21:04 Slick: lets not go there yet21:04 Slick: 01:23:347 (1) -21:04 Arphimigon: perhaps 40\/4521:04 Slick: that slider21:04 Arphimigon: keep that how it is21:04 Slick: silence the ticks?21:05 Arphimigon: i like the ticks21:05 Slick: the ticks are 25%21:05 Slick: the end of the slider is 5%21:05 Arphimigon: makes you realise you are still playing21:05 Arphimigon: hm21:05 Arphimigon: raise end to 1021:05 Arphimigon: so its still audible21:05 Slick: done21:06 Arphimigon: next section is good21:06 Slick: 50 volume good?21:06 Slick: what about the guitar part 01:34:134 -21:06 Slick: 70 there is good?21:06 Arphimigon: all good21:07 Slick: this section 01:44:920 (5) - ?21:07 Arphimigon: raise21:07 Slick: raise to 40?21:07 Arphimigon: 40 or 4521:07 Arphimigon: id say 4021:07 Slick: done21:08 Slick: 01:53:965 (4) - is this slider 1\/6?21:08 Arphimigon: 02:22:673 - all good sounding until here so ffar21:08 Arphimigon: slider?21:08 Slick: or 1\/8?21:08 Slick: seems to be 1\/821:08 Arphimigon: what you have seems fine21:08 Slick: seems to be http:\/\/puu.sh\/iMbZv.jpg<\/a>21:09 Slick: yeah21:09 Slick: idk...21:09 Arphimigon: hm21:09 Arphimigon: use 1\/821:09 Slick: i'll remap that21:09 Arphimigon: easier to play and hit21:09 Arphimigon: no keep21:09 Arphimigon: use 1\/821:09 Slick: okay21:10 Slick: 01:54:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here sample is normal and volume 20%21:10 Slick: thoughts, i assume raise?21:10 Arphimigon: ye21:11 Arphimigon: 25\/3021:11 Arphimigon: id say 25 to fit music21:11 Slick: 01:55:370 (9,10,11) -21:11 Slick: here i changed it to soft and 70%21:11 Slick: because the violin or w\/e that is comes in21:11 Arphimigon: too high imo21:11 Slick: but volume may be too high?21:11 Arphimigon: ye21:12 Arphimigon: 50 or 60 your call here21:12 Arphimigon: id say 5021:12 Arphimigon: but we can compromise 5521:12 Slick: 5521:13 Slick: 01:55:707 (1) - volume for this section?21:13 Slick: 70, since it is part with claps and kicks21:13 Slick: ?21:13 Arphimigon: its good how it is21:14 Slick: 02:06:493 (1) - lower here?21:14 Slick: kicks stop21:14 Arphimigon: no21:14 Arphimigon: it still feels the same21:14 Slick: no kicks don't stop21:14 Slick: NVM21:14 Slick: yeah my bad21:14 Slick: 02:17:280 - 70 here as well?21:14 Arphimigon: ye21:15 Arphimigon: still 7021:15 Slick: these finishse 02:27:729 (1,2,3,4,5) -21:15 Arphimigon: 02:22:673 (1,1,1) - empasize?21:15 Slick: finishes*21:15 Slick: increase volume at those sliders?21:15 Arphimigon: ye21:15 Arphimigon: make those all 8021:16 Slick: only the sliders though?21:16 Arphimigon: id say personally 02:27:813 (2) - remove that finish only21:16 Arphimigon: and ye21:16 Arphimigon: just the sliders21:17 Slick: 02:26:044 (1,2,1) - ?21:17 Slick: 80 for those as well?21:17 Arphimigon: nah21:17 Slick: okay21:17 Slick: same thing happens before the first kiai21:18 Slick: 00:55:033 here21:18 Slick: do the same thing there?21:18 Arphimigon: may aswell21:19 Arphimigon: on a mapping note the curve of dis is meh, this looks better 02:50:988 (1) - 21:19 Arphimigon: https:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3338815<\/a>21:21 Slick: what curve?21:21 Arphimigon: the biggest curve21:21 Slick: the beginning?21:22 Arphimigon: no worry lets finish the sounds21:22 Arphimigon: so you can hurry and 21:22 Slick: 01:00:089 (1,2,3,4,5) -21:22 Slick: these finishes?21:23 Arphimigon: keep them all21:23 Arphimigon: they fit21:23 Slick: 01:00:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here i did something weird with drum-hitclap and drum-hitfinish21:23 Arphimigon: sounds good21:23 Arphimigon: kinda21:23 Slick: oaky21:23 Slick: okaky21:23 Slick: lol21:24 Slick: yeah idk about it21:24 Arphimigon: i think its meant to sound a bit weird21:24 Arphimigon: idk21:24 Slick: doesn't sound to good21:24 Slick: ;w;21:24 Slick: maybe just normal sample and 40% volume instead?21:24 Slick: remove claps and finish?21:25 Arphimigon: lemme try it21:26 Arphimigon: 01:01:100 (4) - keep this whistle21:26 Slick: make that whistle21:26 Arphimigon: 01:01:437 (6,8) - and a couple of whistles here21:26 Arphimigon: imo21:26 Slick: what about the sample21:26 Slick: still drum?21:26 Slick: don't remove claps and finish?21:26 Arphimigon: ye21:27 Arphimigon: remove them all21:27 Slick: okay21:27 Arphimigon: 01:01:269 (5) - and consider clap here21:27 Slick: oh21:27 Arphimigon: i think you have one there21:27 Slick: keep drum sample`?21:27 Arphimigon: ye21:27 Arphimigon: all drum21:28 Slick: 02:28:741 -21:28 Slick: that section before dubstep21:28 Slick: volume21:28 Slick: and what about the whistles21:28 Arphimigon: sounds fine volume wise21:29 Arphimigon: whistles add to the epicness21:29 Arphimigon: keepp21:30 Arphimigon: 02:49:302 (5) - id remove this whistle21:30 Slick: 02:50:988 (1) - this slider, silenced ticks good?21:30 Slick: and the end is 5% volume21:31 Arphimigon: i wanna hear the ticks21:31 Slick: 15% enough for ticks?21:31 Arphimigon: it sound sound so good21:31 Arphimigon: on tick rate 1 on the slider21:31 Arphimigon: at about 20%21:32 Slick: have to use tick rate 221:32 Slick: so i can hitsound the ticks inside some long sliders21:32 Arphimigon: id reckon you could have the bpm on the slider21:32 Slick: half?21:32 Arphimigon: and justify it with \"no sounds make it sound slower!\"21:32 Arphimigon: half*21:32 Arphimigon: i meant to say halve21:33 Slick: i don't understand21:33 Slick: i made the ticks of it 20%21:33 Slick: what about the end, 5% good?21:33 Arphimigon: ye21:33 Arphimigon: but if you halve the bpm, you can get basically tick rate one21:33 Slick: 02:56:044 (1,2,3,4) - these?21:33 Arphimigon: reduce sound21:33 Arphimigon: too loud21:34 Slick: 40,50?21:34 Arphimigon: 4021:34 Arphimigon: 02:56:381 (1) - end this slider at 02:56:634 - sounds better21:34 Arphimigon: and replace end with a note21:34 Arphimigon: sounds so much better musically to me21:35 Slick: that's not my part21:35 Slick: but i'll tell him21:36 Slick: 03:00:426 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here i use normal whistle21:37 Slick: because using addition to hitsound the kick fucks your ability to use whisle and finish21:37 Arphimigon: eh21:37 Slick: so i have the choice between hitsounding the clap and kick but not using and finish or whistle21:37 Slick: or use finish or whistle and ignore kicks and claps21:37 Arphimigon: use the whistles21:37 Arphimigon: more effect21:37 Arphimigon: if not a bit annoying21:38 Slick: okay21:39 Slick: 02:56:381 (1) - emphasize such sliders in dubstep?21:39 Slick: same as before kiai you know i increased volume to 8021:39 Arphimigon: no21:39 Arphimigon: they dont stick out nearly as much as before21:39 Slick: yup21:40 Arphimigon: wtf 2hrs on purely hitsounds21:40 Slick: 03:19:302 (1) - volume for this section?21:40 Arphimigon: nah keepo21:41 Slick: 03:24:696 (2) - questionable note21:41 Arphimigon: ye21:41 Arphimigon: i was gonna say that in mod later but21:41 Arphimigon: ye21:41 Slick: she breathes it, and the music changes slightly21:41 Arphimigon: breathing21:41 Arphimigon: isnt understood21:41 Slick: breathes in*21:41 Arphimigon: by players21:41 Slick: yup xD21:41 Slick: but the music changes a little21:42 Slick: you hear21:42 Arphimigon: but what would make sense21:42 Arphimigon: is21:42 Arphimigon: end slider at 03:24:359 - 21:42 Arphimigon: remove 03:24:696 (3) - 21:42 Arphimigon: 03:24:527 - add note21:43 Arphimigon: well kinda21:43 Arphimigon: im not sure how to map this part really21:44 Slick: i'm not sure either21:44 Arphimigon: how about keep it how it was originaly21:44 Slick: ignore that for now21:44 Arphimigon: just remove the note21:44 Arphimigon: makes mose sense to me21:44 Slick: agreed21:44 Slick: i'll do that21:45 Slick: 03:42:224 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -21:45 Arphimigon: wow21:45 Arphimigon: i was about to21:45 Arphimigon: wow21:45 Slick: is that the same as 01:00:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:645 - soud pls21:45 Arphimigon: no21:45 Arphimigon: not at all21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:645 - add a sound here21:45 Arphimigon: 03:42:814 (6) - and remove this21:46 Arphimigon: if you want a sound at that place, make03:42:729 (6) - into a slider jump21:46 Arphimigon: 1\/4 slider21:46 Slick: i'm not sure about note at 03:42:645 -21:47 Slick: doesn't sound too good to me21:47 Arphimigon: sounds perfect to me lol21:47 Slick: 03:42:814 - you can here drum here21:47 Arphimigon: ye21:47 Arphimigon: make 03:42:729 - into 1\/4 slider21:47 Arphimigon: but i wouldnt make that sound a note21:47 Arphimigon: gotta afk again21:53 Arphimigon: back21:53 Arphimigon: where were we21:53 Slick: 03:42:224 -21:53 Slick: i tried what you said21:53 Slick: i didn't find it too fitting21:53 Slick: idk sorry ;w;21:54 Arphimigon: http:\/\/puu.sh\/iMeOd\/619e8b058a.jpg<\/a> like that?#21:54 Slick: it's not that bad21:55 Slick: but i feel the transition between the kick slider and slow slider is a bit weird21:55 Arphimigon: hey all your choice21:55 Arphimigon: lets move on then21:55 Slick: i'll keep it in mind21:55 Slick: but the hitsound there21:55 Slick: normal sample yes?21:55 Arphimigon: ye21:55 Arphimigon: sounds good21:55 Arphimigon: nice finish21:55 Slick: 03:42:224 (1) - finish here?21:56 Slick: soft or normal finish?21:56 Arphimigon: ye thats what i was saying21:56 Arphimigon: lemme try both21:56 Arphimigon: soft21:57 Slick: 03:54:359 (1) - finish on slider like this?21:57 Slick: i did the same in the first kiai 01:12:561 (1) -21:57 Arphimigon: oh god yes thats good21:58 Slick: i'm going to remake this before 21:58 Slick: 04:09:696 (1) -21:59 Slick: but the slider21:59 Arphimigon: 04:17:954 (1,1) - unrankable stacking21:59 Slick: that's unrankable?21:59 Arphimigon: ye21:59 Arphimigon: unreadable22:00 Slick: okay22:00 Slick: that's also not my part22:00 Slick: 5eania has the first dubstep22:00 Arphimigon: dam22:00 Slick: midge has the second22:00 Arphimigon: well imma still point them out22:00 Slick: i'll tell him22:00 Slick: yeah22:00 Arphimigon: so either one can say it later22:00 Slick: ofc =D22:01 Slick: 04:09:696 (1) - but that slider22:01 Slick: volume of ticks22:01 Slick: + volume of end22:01 Arphimigon: no ticks on this one22:01 Arphimigon: but22:01 Arphimigon: the end should be raise22:01 Arphimigon: since there is a sound22:02 Arphimigon: go for 15%22:02 Slick: so volume of ticks keep 35%22:02 Arphimigon: ye22:02 Slick: 04:11:550 (2) - this slider22:02 Slick: 5%22:02 Slick: that is midge's doing22:02 Arphimigon: wait22:02 Arphimigon: 04:09:696 (1) - add a soft whistle to the end of this slider22:02 Arphimigon: i think it fits i m o22:03 Slick: done22:03 Arphimigon: 04:11:550 (2) - 22:03 Arphimigon: higher22:03 Arphimigon: 10 or 1522:03 Arphimigon: id say 1522:03 Slick: done22:04 Arphimigon: section after that feels quiet LOL22:04 Arphimigon: its 70%22:04 Arphimigon: why does everything feel quiet22:04 Slick: what lol22:05 Arphimigon: dw just me22:05 Slick: yeah i need to map that last section for 5 min22:05 Arphimigon: ^22:05 Arphimigon: drain time22:05 Arphimigon: was gonna mention that22:05 Slick: just make everything there 5%?22:05 Arphimigon: ye22:05 Slick: i tried making the start of the slider 15% volume22:05 Slick: then the ticks and end 5%22:05 Slick: it's like that on all sliders22:05 Slick: but just ignore and do everything 5%22:05 Slick: `?22:06 Arphimigon: which part22:06 Slick: 04:33:460 (1) -22:06 Arphimigon: no22:06 Arphimigon: that feels good22:06 Slick: so keep it the way i did22:06 Arphimigon: wanna fix the drain problem without making the end all retarder?22:07 Slick: depends on what it is?22:07 Slick: spinner in the beginning?22:07 Arphimigon: end spinner at 04:59:078 - 22:07 Arphimigon: the song needs to end at at least 5:0222:08 Arphimigon: because it starts at 0:0222:08 Arphimigon: 04:59:920 - you CAN add a note there22:08 Arphimigon: 05:00:595 (1) - and one there22:09 Arphimigon: 05:01:437 (2) - and one there22:09 Arphimigon: but its a little weird22:09 Slick: may be better than the spinner22:09 Arphimigon: so make the first two notes22:09 Arphimigon: the thing about drain time is22:10 Arphimigon: only the spinner start and slider starts are counted22:10 Arphimigon: if you end on a long ass spinner\/slider it wont do much22:10 Slick: i see22:10 Slick: 05:01:437 - note here as well?22:10 Arphimigon: lemme see22:10 Arphimigon: the old drain wouldve ended 04:52:336 - LOL22:10 Slick: slider may fit22:10 Arphimigon: slider end wont do any good though22:11 Slick: really?22:11 Slick: i didn't know of that22:11 Arphimigon: only the starts22:11 Arphimigon: trust me ive had to fix this problem for a bunch of people22:11 Slick: haha22:11 Arphimigon: hm22:11 Slick: yeah thanks22:11 Arphimigon: 00:00:426 - spinner start here22:11 Arphimigon: 00:01:606 - end here22:12 Slick: is spinner long enough?22:12 Slick: yup22:12 Arphimigon: just the start matters22:12 Arphimigon: its treated as a note22:12 Slick: i see22:12 Arphimigon: likewise with sliders22:12 Arphimigon: its the same way with difficulty rating22:12 Arphimigon: everything is treated as a note22:13 Arphimigon: hence why big black is only 6.5 stars22:13 Arphimigon: (yes i have proven this)22:13 Slick: algorithm for diff calculation needs to be updated22:13 Arphimigon: it cant22:13 Arphimigon: sadly22:13 Arphimigon: well it can but not any time soo22:13 Arphimigon: soon*22:13 Slick: :s22:14 Arphimigon: since there is no coordinates given for slider ends in the .osu, the diffiuculty algorithm cant easily fetch slider end coordinates22:14 Arphimigon: and to fetch them all by in-editor or other means would cause hell for the processor22:14 Slick: haha22:14 Arphimigon: so unlucky for us its bam stuck22:14 Slick: yeah22:14 Slick: 05:01:437 -22:15 Slick: note here?22:15 Arphimigon: 05:00:595 (1,2) - remove both actually22:15 Arphimigon: oh no22:15 Arphimigon: bad idea22:15 Arphimigon: ye keep that end note22:15 Slick: 05:00:595 (2) - ?22:15 Arphimigon: ye22:15 Arphimigon: that too22:15 Slick: what about 05:01:437 - ?22:15 Arphimigon: both22:15 Slick: you said note there22:16 Arphimigon: keep them both22:16 Arphimigon: does it fit22:16 Arphimigon: to you22:16 Arphimigon: i also said 04:59:920 - 22:16 Slick: if it gives me 5 min drain time i'll do it22:16 Slick: yeah i did those 222:16 Slick: but the third note22:16 Slick: i should add that22:17 Slick: i made it like this22:17 Arphimigon: well22:17 Slick: http:\/\/puu.sh\/iMgh6.jpg<\/a>22:17 Arphimigon: you can remove the third22:17 Arphimigon: either way you have 5 mins22:17 Slick: idk the third kinda fits22:18 Arphimigon: ye22:18 Arphimigon: the other way to fix the problem wouldve been the reduce bpm by 1 option22:18 Arphimigon: ive done that on 2 other maps22:18 Arphimigon: made 3 extra drain time seconds22:19 Slick: nice22:19 Arphimigon: well it should be fine22:19 Arphimigon: if not we can always reduce bpm by 1 after22:19 Arphimigon: or 2 and remove the beginning spinner22:20 Slick: reduce the bpm by 122:20 Slick: 177?22:20 Arphimigon: ye22:20 Arphimigon: that would give you (doing math)22:20 Arphimigon: 2.5 more seconds on this bpm22:20 Slick: wouldn't that cause havic22:20 Arphimigon: actually just under 322:20 Slick: maps need to be properly timed?22:21 Arphimigon: it wont be hard for me22:21 Arphimigon: ive done it enough times22:21 Arphimigon: (twice for others)22:21 Slick: havoc*22:21 Arphimigon: (more than twice for myself)22:21 Arphimigon: eh no point worrying about that now22:21 Arphimigon: it might not need to happen22:21 Arphimigon: anything else you need on it?22:21 Slick: the beginner spinner22:22 Slick: it may seem out of place22:22 Slick: any way to get 5 min drain time22:22 Slick: adding one extra note in the end or some shit?22:22 Arphimigon: end it at 00:01:774 - 22:22 Slick: done22:22 Arphimigon: inb4 add a note at 05:03:123 - 22:23 Arphimigon: but you may want to make those notes audible IF you decide to keep them22:23 Slick: with the note at 05:03:123 (2) - can we remove the beginner spinner?22:23 Arphimigon: yes22:23 Arphimigon: without doubt22:23 Slick: i'll keep those 4 notes in the end xD22:24 Arphimigon: increase vol22:24 Arphimigon: 15\/20%22:24 Slick: should i start at like 25 , then go slowly down?22:24 Arphimigon: hm22:24 Slick: or just keep the volume steady22:24 Arphimigon: 30 -> 20 -> 15 -> 1022:24 Arphimigon: or 2522:24 Arphimigon: ye 25 start it22:25 Slick: so it's 25 -> 20 -> 15 -> 1022:25 Slick: last note is 10 volume22:25 Slick: it's all good now?22:26 Arphimigon: ye22:26 Arphimigon: get a BG if you can22:26 Arphimigon: and submittio22:27 Slick: yup22:27 Slick: i wanna thank you for all the help you've given me with this map22:27 Slick: you've helped shitloads22:27 Slick: do you have paypal or something22:27 Arphimigon: no22:27 Arphimigon: dont pay me22:27 Slick: i'd like to donate 10 or 15 euro as thanks22:27 Slick: ;w;22:27 Arphimigon: im not even done yet22:27 Arphimigon: wait till i look at22:27 Arphimigon: the map22:27 *Arphimigon runs22:28 Slick: xS22:28 Arphimigon: as soon as you i need to actually test it22:28 Arphimigon: cus it looks more like art than a map22:28 Arphimigon: ofc you can have both22:28 Arphimigon: but just saying22:29 Slick: i'll just use this22:29 Slick: http:\/\/puu.sh\/iMh1N.png<\/a>22:29 Arphimigon: i have an A on Airman, HR Pensamento , DT Emerald Sword, two Chipscape es and I still reckon i wont be able to this map22:29 Slick: whoa D:22:30 Arphimigon: if i cant22:30 Arphimigon: theres a problem22:30 Arphimigon: *runs*22:30 Slick: some parts hard to read22:30 Slick: end dubstep hard cuz midge...22:30 Arphimigon: was gonna mention them both22:30 Arphimigon: some placements are generally poor22:31 Arphimigon: and the end is a massive diffspike22:31 Arphimigon: but hey22:31 Arphimigon: its not anywhere near \"remap\" style22:31 Arphimigon: its pretty damn good most the time22:31 Slick: haha22:31 Slick: yeah midge and 5eania are really good mappers22:32 Slick: i'll use this most likely just as a temporary bg22:32 Slick: i might make an SB22:32 Arphimigon: not much point22:32 Arphimigon: unless its for lyrics22:33 Slick: i thought just for the collab22:33 Slick: so when it 5eania and midges you know22:33 Arphimigon: ah yea22:33 Arphimigon: that makes sense22:33 Slick: ing now22:33 Slick: how do i link thier pages on the creator's words22:34 Slick: you know make thier name blu and clickable to it links to thier page22:34 Arphimigon: i cant right now22:34 Arphimigon: probably the link option on the forums22:35 Arphimigon: just edit the first post when you submit22:35 Slick: http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/s\/330216<\/a>22:36 Slick: so what do i do?22:36 Arphimigon: redling22:36 Slick: i think i need to re to change the creator's word<\/div><\/div><\/span>log 2<\/a>17:55 Arphimigon: okay which part is getting remapped17:56 Arphimigon: also bare with me my laptop is having a hard time so it randomly shuts off17:56 Slick: D:17:56 Slick: i'm unsure of what to do17:56 Slick: but i know it has to be improved17:56 Slick: 00:02:111 -17:56 Slick: basically the whole beginning section before the first kiai17:56 Arphimigon: stream is fine17:56 Slick: needs work\/polishing\/remapping17:57 Arphimigon: 00:04:471 (4,5) - this i dont like17:57 Arphimigon: imo reverse slider should be where the note is17:57 Arphimigon: or two sliders17:57 Arphimigon: but not note then reverse slider, doesnt fit music as well as it could etc17:58 Slick: damn17:58 Slick: 2 sliders17:58 Slick: fit much better17:58 Slick: how did you noticea17:58 Arphimigon: experience17:58 Arphimigon: imo this start is wayyyyyy overmapped17:59 Slick: i'm going to write all this down so i it for tomorrow17:59 Slick: gonnar remap then17:59 Arphimigon: well17:59 Slick: those sections17:59 Arphimigon: i could just say17:59 Arphimigon: remap the start17:59 Arphimigon: but ehhhhh17:59 Slick: yeah17:59 Slick: but to remapa17:59 Arphimigon: i feel like way more longer sliders would fit the start17:59 Arphimigon: much more17:59 Slick: you must have a solution to the problem that are there17:59 Arphimigon: 00:02:617 - like skip this beat etc18:00 Arphimigon: long sliders18:00 Arphimigon: + slower SV18:00 Arphimigon: well around 1x SV works if you add longer sliders18:00 Slick: too fast18:00 Arphimigon: 1.2 is too fast gonna test others18:01 Arphimigon: eh go for 0.8 to 0.918:01 Slick: like 0,70 - 0,90 is decent speed18:01 Slick: for outside kiai18:01 Slick: this18:01 Slick: 00:09:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -18:01 Slick: it flows bad18:01 Arphimigon: i feel like 0.8 is too slow18:01 Arphimigon: 0.818:01 Arphimigon: 0.9*18:01 Arphimigon: use 0.9*18:02 Arphimigon: 00:09:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - agreed this isnt nice at all18:02 Arphimigon: 00:09:527 (2,3,4) - its because of this18:02 Slick: i don't know what patterns flow good18:02 Arphimigon: well18:02 Arphimigon: the movement from 2 to 3 to 4 looks good right now18:03 Arphimigon: but its not <\/318:03 Arphimigon: id say18:03 Slick: it's kinda cramped18:03 Arphimigon: for this kinda flow made from 1 to 2 to 3 makes a oval shape18:03 Slick: this 00:09:022 (6,1,2) -18:03 Arphimigon: so slider 4 shouldnt point point18:03 Arphimigon: it shouldnt point down*18:04 Arphimigon: 00:09:022 (6,1,2) - this is fine18:04 Slick: really?18:04 Slick: lol18:04 Arphimigon: okay ill screenie what i would do to see if you like it18:04 Arphimigon: and just say all the steps18:05 Arphimigon: 00:09:359 (1,2,3) - move 3 to its more left of 1, fits from the curve of the last slider to do a back and forth jump here for one time18:05 Slick: i'll remap18:06 Arphimigon: well i rushed this http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3378846<\/a>18:06 Arphimigon: but it fits after the curve of slider 6 better18:07 Slick: yup18:07 Slick: 00:16:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - doesn't flow well18:07 Slick: that is just stupid of me18:07 Arphimigon: oh god18:07 Arphimigon: why did you18:07 Arphimigon: even18:07 Arphimigon: >triplet triangles18:07 Arphimigon: i hate seeing them18:08 Slick: need to be remade18:08 Arphimigon: not really18:08 Slick: repatterned18:08 Arphimigon: 00:15:932 (1,2,3,4,5) - all good18:08 Arphimigon: 6 is too linear with 4 and 518:08 Arphimigon: should be more right18:10 Arphimigon: https:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3378865<\/a> this works nicely18:10 Slick: it's the biggest problem of this map...18:10 Slick: need to make the beginning flow better18:10 Slick: yeah i'll do that18:10 Arphimigon: cool18:11 Slick: 00:17:280 - 00:27:729 -18:11 Slick: is that section okay?18:11 Arphimigon: thats a long section18:11 Slick: after 00:27:729 - it becomes kinda shit again18:11 Arphimigon: 00:19:302 (6,7,8) - nope18:11 Arphimigon: actually imma watch it all first again18:12 Arphimigon: its alright18:12 Arphimigon: not amazing18:12 Slick: more polishing?18:12 Slick: and harder?18:12 Arphimigon: 00:18:460 (5) - if you are going to extend this slider, make it more wiggly18:12 Slick: i should probably make the beginning a bit harder as well since it's so easy compared to the rest of the map18:12 Slick: yeah i'll fix that18:12 Arphimigon: its way too straight and its played in a straight line, making it a long boring part18:13 Arphimigon: afk again18:16 Arphimigon: boom back18:17 Slick: nice18:17 Arphimigon: 00:19:302 - https:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3378887<\/a> nice little jump after the long break by the slider18:18 Slick: i'm ing all these screenshots18:18 Arphimigon: lol okay18:18 Arphimigon: arent you editing now though?18:18 Slick: no18:18 Slick: i feel so tired18:18 Slick: ...18:18 Arphimigon: 00:20:482 (2,3) - curve doesnt really fit together18:18 Arphimigon: kinda minor thing18:18 Arphimigon: ill skip it18:18 Slick: naw, could be better18:18 Arphimigon: 00:21:325 (4) - unneccesarily high SV18:19 Slick: also needs to be remade18:19 Slick: i'll make it 0,9018:19 Arphimigon: 00:28:066 (1) - i feel like this is gonna cause a bunch of annoyance18:20 Slick: haven't raised anything18:20 Slick: hasn't*18:20 Slick: i'm not sure18:20 Arphimigon: the dip is the problem18:20 Slick: yup18:20 Arphimigon: you can keep it18:20 Arphimigon: but make it a liiiitle smaller18:20 Slick: 00:28:404 (2,3,4,5) -18:20 Slick: feels weird18:20 Arphimigon: then redue SV to 1.3 or smth18:20 Slick: will do18:20 Arphimigon: ye i was gonna mention that part too18:20 Arphimigon: 00:28:404 (2,3) - its mainly this18:21 Arphimigon: counter-intuiative play18:21 Arphimigon: normally not expecting for a 1\/4 snap blanket like this18:21 Slick: ah18:21 Arphimigon: also 00:28:404 (2,3,4) - the 1\/4 snap is larger than the 1\/218:21 Slick: yeah needs to be remade18:21 Arphimigon: so just move slider 3 way higher18:21 Slick: oh shit i thought that was 17418:22 Slick: 1\/4*18:22 Arphimigon: lo18:22 Arphimigon: https:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3378904<\/a> boom fixed18:22 Arphimigon: 00:30:426 (10,1) - bad blanket18:23 Slick: doesn't play well?18:23 Arphimigon: no it doesnt look right18:23 Arphimigon: plays fine18:23 Slick: how do i fix it?18:23 Arphimigon: you can fix blankets ur a god at that18:24 Slick: just the blanket that's all?18:24 Arphimigon: yup18:24 Arphimigon: it looks off is all18:24 Slick: 00:30:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -18:24 Arphimigon: 00:30:426 (10) - move to x:436 y:199 fixed18:24 Slick: all this is so fucking tame18:24 Arphimigon: its good18:25 Arphimigon: 00:33:123 (6) - make into 2 notes18:25 Arphimigon: 00:33:291 - the second being here18:25 Slick: sounds a lot better18:25 Arphimigon: might be hard to place18:25 Slick: you got a really good ears18:26 Arphimigon: unless you move 00:33:460 (1) - 18:26 Slick: no i'll think of something18:26 Arphimigon: im not listening to the music too much18:26 Arphimigon: more looking to what would seem best as a player18:26 Arphimigon: thats how i make my maps anyway18:26 Slick: lol18:26 Slick: should i do the same here?18:26 Slick: 00:35:819 (9) -18:26 Arphimigon: nextu18:27 Arphimigon: not really18:27 Arphimigon: since 00:35:314 (8) - there was a 1\/2 gap between this and the next slider so it should be fine18:28 Arphimigon: 00:36:662 (3) - too much curve on the end of this18:29 Arphimigon: make it flatter imo18:30 Slick: 00:37:168 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -18:30 Slick: does this flow okay?18:30 Arphimigon: not really18:30 Arphimigon: then again a little off is good18:30 Arphimigon: 00:37:842 (2,3) - so hard to hit18:31 Slick: yeah, need to be remade18:31 Slick: 00:40:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -18:31 Slick: this shouldn't be too bad though18:31 Arphimigon: thats fine18:31 Arphimigon: 00:41:213 (2) - move more right though18:32 Slick: will do18:32 Arphimigon: 00:41:550 (1) - this start curve looks bad imo18:33 Slick: yeah it does18:33 Slick: needs to be fixed18:33 Arphimigon: 00:45:763 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - epic18:33 Slick: haha it's so ironic18:33 Slick: not my pattern18:34 Slick: copy from18:34 *Slick is listening to [http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/b\/348169 Otokaze - Sakura Memory]18:34 Arphimigon: lol18:34 Arphimigon: 00:47:954 (1,2,3,1) - well this isnt18:34 Slick: yeah18:35 Arphimigon: kinda hard to fix18:35 Slick: yeah i feel sick just looking at the beginning18:35 Arphimigon: 00:48:291 - end here18:36 Arphimigon: actually18:36 Slick: i always try to avoid the beginning when i'm in the editor of this map18:36 Arphimigon: 00:48:460 - end the slider there18:36 Slick: and do what more?18:36 Arphimigon: well this rhythm works http:\/\/puu.sh\/iWzog\/9ff7c02f4d.jpg<\/a>18:37 Arphimigon: posistioning isnt easy with it though18:37 Slick: i'll just have to figure something out18:37 Slick: i will do it though18:37 Slick: sounds a lot better18:37 Arphimigon: nvrmnd got a fix18:37 Arphimigon: http:\/\/puu.sh\/iWzrZ\/344a94c753.jpg<\/a>18:37 Arphimigon: if you want it18:38 Slick: thanks18:38 Slick: looks good18:38 Slick: 00:49:471 - 00:55:033 -18:38 Arphimigon: 00:50:988 (4,1) - kinda weird18:38 Slick: that section plays really badly18:38 Slick: yeah weird18:38 Arphimigon: 00:51:325 (1) - make it into a \"normal\" place18:38 Arphimigon: like um18:39 Arphimigon: x:239 y:30218:39 Slick: yup18:40 Arphimigon: 00:51:325 (1,2,3) - then this would be a problm though18:40 Slick: that section needs to be remapped for better flow18:40 Arphimigon: 00:51:493 (2) - x:243 y:132 after then18:41 Slick: yup18:41 Arphimigon: 00:53:179 (6,7,8,1) - this is bad18:41 Slick: yeah also flows bad18:42 Arphimigon: well it can stay though18:42 Slick: all shit...18:42 Arphimigon: it works in a way18:42 Arphimigon: just not the usual way18:42 Slick: i'll try to think of something to make it better when remapping18:42 Slick: 00:55:370 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -18:42 Slick: these jumps okay?18:42 Arphimigon: kiiinda18:43 Slick: spacing increase during vocal18:43 Arphimigon: 00:56:044 (6,7,1) - gonna be hard to keep on that slider though18:44 Slick: can it go towards a better direction?18:44 Slick: for example 00:56:213 (7) -18:44 Arphimigon: eh it should be fine18:44 Arphimigon: nah the jumps are good18:44 Slick: nvm18:44 Arphimigon: 00:56:381 (1,2,3,4) - 4 feels better much higher than it is18:46 Slick: what does that mean?18:46 Arphimigon: move 4 higher18:46 Slick: stack or near 00:57:561 (7) - ?18:46 Arphimigon: stack 7 feels really nice18:47 Slick: 01:01:774 - kiai shouldn't be too bad18:47 Arphimigon: but if you stack 718:47 Arphimigon: then move 7 lower18:47 Arphimigon: dont stack 4 and 718:47 Arphimigon: ctrl-g 4 and 7 all fixd18:48 Slick: that removes the perfect square though ;w;18:48 Arphimigon: well you gotta compromise18:48 Slick: if it plays better i will do it18:48 Slick: ofc18:49 Slick: not much more now18:49 Slick: the kiai though18:49 Slick: v18:49 Slick: 01:01:774 -18:49 Arphimigon: rip more18:49 Slick: should be fine in general18:49 Slick: 18:49 Arphimigon: ill whizz through it18:49 Arphimigon: 01:05:819 (4,5) - look almost touching, spread them a few pixels more18:50 Slick: what direction should this reverse arrow point?18:50 Slick: 01:03:291 (1) -18:50 Arphimigon: that is good how it is18:50 Slick: didn't notice, gonna fix it18:50 Slick: alright18:51 Slick: but that should be enough18:51 Slick: the rest is actually not18:51 Slick: i can fix it18:51 Slick: it's not as bad as the beginning18:51 Arphimigon: 01:07:168 (1) - so many missed beats rip18:51 Slick: you deserve kds for this mod...18:51 Arphimigon: im not even 25% done18:51 Arphimigon: k18:51 Slick: 25% done?18:51 Slick: you have 75% more stuff?18:51 Arphimigon: we finished at 21%18:52 Slick: well there isn't much more awkwardness than the beginning18:52 Slick: only a few moments i think i can squash on my own18:52 Arphimigon: you say that18:52 Arphimigon: well18:52 Arphimigon: ill check it another time18:52 Arphimigon: afk18:52 Slick: save it for your mod<\/div><\/div><\/span>log 3<\/a>18:14 Arphimigon: you know you kinda said to a lot of mods that you needed to ask someone else about it for another opinion18:14 Arphimigon: >scans through all the mods18:15 Slick: 00:25:707 (2) - this note18:15 Slick: yeah i know18:15 Slick: fuck my insecurity18:15 Arphimigon: i saw that one lately18:15 Arphimigon: but also in lots of other mods you done that18:15 Slick: everyone mentions that18:16 Slick: yeah18:16 Slick: quite a bit of the \"Pending\" ones18:16 Slick: are because it's not my part though18:16 Slick: like 5eania or midge18:16 Slick: but do you wanna go through them with me?18:16 Arphimigon: sure18:16 Slick: the ones i've said like not sure what to do18:16 Slick: thanks18:16 Arphimigon: thats what i was going to ask18:16 Arphimigon: since im doing nothing anyway18:17 Slick: 02:24:864 (4,5,6) - , exa said these are too big18:17 Slick: i honestly wanna push for an extra diff18:17 Arphimigon: yes those are wayyyyyyyyy too big18:17 Arphimigon: tbh18:17 Arphimigon: let me check the jumps before them18:17 Arphimigon: 02:23:348 (4,5,6,7) - 18:18 Arphimigon: and i guess 02:20:819 (1,2,3) - 18:18 Slick: yeah18:18 Slick: the buildup seems reasonable to me18:18 Arphimigon: buildup is fine18:18 Slick: the increased spacing of jumps18:18 Arphimigon: if the song was short or so18:18 Arphimigon: but those jumps are pretty much literally the only big jumps in the whole song18:18 Arphimigon: rip combo breaks left right and center for one point18:19 Slick: yup18:19 Slick: but i'm still not too keen on nerfing them18:19 Arphimigon: it feels bad to have that there18:19 Arphimigon: this is still easily an extra without them18:19 Arphimigon: so yeah im in favour of nerfing18:19 Slick: okay18:19 Slick: 02:34:471 (1,1) - this looks bad - exa18:20 Arphimigon: that end tiny part is a bit bad18:20 Arphimigon: after the smooth curve18:20 Arphimigon: 02:35:651 - right there18:20 Slick: smoothen the curve inwards?18:20 Arphimigon: mhm18:21 Slick: 02:43:572 (2) - shouldn't overlap this18:21 Slick: exa18:21 Arphimigon: thats fine imo18:22 Slick: agreed18:22 Arphimigon: wont cause a problem and doesnt look bad18:22 Slick: 03:28:572 (1) - could be much better - exa18:22 Slick: i honestly thought that looked pretty nice18:22 Slick: ;w;18:22 Arphimigon: that looks fine wat18:22 Arphimigon: exa pls18:23 Slick: clicknoise next18:23 Arphimigon: cooooolio18:23 Slick: he mentioned often to stack notes18:23 Slick: but i thought they played better unstacked18:23 Slick: 01:09:527 (1,3) -18:23 Arphimigon: better unstacked18:24 Slick: 01:20:314 (3,4,5) - this too18:24 Slick: stack 3 on 518:24 Arphimigon: bad idea18:24 Arphimigon: do you have stacking option enabled?18:24 Slick: no, i'm in editor with the ingame stack lenicency18:24 Slick: or w\/e it's called18:24 Slick: should i disable it18:24 Arphimigon: view -> stacking18:24 Arphimigon: thats enabled right18:25 Slick: yeah18:25 Arphimigon: good18:25 Arphimigon: you can see why stacking them would be bad18:25 Slick: the streams in the guitar part he mentions18:25 Slick: for example 01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) -18:25 Slick: make them a straight line18:25 Arphimigon: that part could be either, preference really18:26 Arphimigon: i would do straight since i map simple stuff but id say you would prefer that18:26 Slick: he also mentions to make this note 02:41:213 (3) -18:26 Slick: like equally inbetween the 2 sliders18:26 Arphimigon: wow um18:26 Arphimigon: no18:26 Slick: but it ruins flow18:26 Slick: well spacing isn't even then18:26 Slick: if i do that18:26 Slick: so i'll keep it the way it is18:26 Arphimigon: tbh i would make slider 4 a biiiit further18:27 Arphimigon: to make it obvious it isnt a 1\/4 snap18:27 Slick: aye18:27 Arphimigon: but yeah that means moving the whole pattern after asdf18:27 Slick: i'll do that18:27 Slick: move 4 a bit further18:27 Arphimigon: coolio18:27 Arphimigon: higher, make it higher18:27 Slick: will do18:27 Slick: Sangzin next18:28 Slick: so yeah this note 00:25:707 (2) -18:28 Arphimigon: haha18:28 Slick: many mention to stack it18:28 Arphimigon: i think we should leave that to the end tbh18:28 Slick: but i think it plays best like that18:28 Slick: okay xD18:28 Slick: he says to end this slider 01:23:347 (1) -18:28 Slick: on 01:25:370 - instead of 01:25:538 -18:29 Arphimigon: kinda agreed18:29 Arphimigon: lemme change myself and listen18:29 Arphimigon: yeah agreed18:29 Arphimigon: 01:28:572 (1) - way too fast just sayin18:30 Slick: will reduce the sv of it18:30 Slick: and change the end of that slider if i manage to make it look good xD18:30 Slick: i probably will18:30 Arphimigon: knowing you? yeah you will18:31 Slick: 01:25:707 (1) - he says to swap out this with a circle18:31 Slick: since the overlap is bad18:31 Arphimigon: wow thats a tricky one18:31 Arphimigon: both are equally good there imo18:31 Slick: well actually18:31 Arphimigon: id say a slider still18:31 Slick: if i end that long slider earlier18:31 Slick: i can map it without the overlap18:32 Slick: so it's gonna work out i think18:32 Arphimigon: keep the slider then18:32 Slick: he says 01:56:718 (4) - stack this note on (3)18:32 Slick: but it's unstacked for even spacing18:32 Arphimigon: that placement is in general bad for that part18:33 Arphimigon: put it in the free space up-left18:33 Slick: keeping the even spacing?18:33 Arphimigon: eh it gets broken really quickly after18:34 Slick: oaky18:34 Slick: okay*18:34 Arphimigon: http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3421367<\/a> i say this18:34 Slick: looks good18:34 Slick: will do that18:34 Slick: he says to 02:35:819 (2) - delete that note18:34 Slick: and extend the slider18:34 Slick: where that note is18:35 Arphimigon: well it makes sense18:35 Arphimigon: in a way18:35 Arphimigon: lemme think about that one18:35 Arphimigon: ye remove18:35 Slick: brb gotta let cat in18:35 Arphimigon: well im gonna mention a ton of things about overmapping when i get to this seriously18:36 Arphimigon: just saying18:37 Slick: nice18:37 Arphimigon: i gotta run afk again making beverageessss18:37 Arphimigon: (so much afk asdf)18:37 Slick: np18:51 Slick: back?18:51 Arphimigon: ye just got back18:51 Arphimigon: literally18:51 Slick: only like 3 mods left now18:52 Arphimigon: goodie lets do dis18:52 Slick: holynightmare next18:52 Arphimigon: oh yay18:52 Arphimigon: holynightmare is cool18:52 Slick: 00:18:291 (4) - not not needed18:53 Slick: note not*18:53 Arphimigon: its needed but in a different weay18:53 Arphimigon: 00:17:954 (3) - reduce length perhaps18:53 Slick: yup18:53 Slick: 00:47:786 (6) - ^ same18:54 Slick: he says it's not needed either18:54 Arphimigon: i like that one18:54 Slick: yeah, it didn't sound to bad18:54 Arphimigon: however for that remove the not18:54 Arphimigon: note*18:54 Slick: too bad*18:54 Arphimigon: and extend the slider18:55 Slick: will do18:55 Slick: 01:18:291 (3) - note not needed18:55 Arphimigon: keep that18:55 Arphimigon: it sounds great there18:56 Slick: and he says this 01:21:156 (7) - ^18:56 Slick: like also not needed18:56 Slick: but i assume he means 01:20:988 (6) -18:57 Arphimigon: i like that too18:57 Slick: 01:53:347 (2) - note not needed18:58 Arphimigon: remove and extend slider18:58 Arphimigon: besides that looks way too cramped18:58 Slick: yeah >_<18:59 Arphimigon: nextu18:59 Slick: mercury2004 next18:59 Slick: he says to put this note 00:24:696 (7) - on x440 y22818:59 Slick: really weird imo18:59 Slick: maybe he was modding an older version or something18:59 Arphimigon: that is so18:59 Arphimigon: weird18:59 Arphimigon: dont do that19:00 Slick: cause i've had him check older unsubmitted version19:00 Arphimigon: oh yeah19:00 Arphimigon: i this wayyyy back then19:00 Slick: this note 01:02:786 (4) - x284 y2819:00 Slick: also really weird19:01 Arphimigon: thats19:01 Arphimigon: really weird19:01 Arphimigon: dont do that19:01 Slick: Underdogs next19:01 Slick: 01:02:786 (4) - legal circle+19:01 Slick: ?19:01 Slick: is it too far out19:01 Arphimigon: a bit risky19:02 Arphimigon: i would raise a bit19:02 Arphimigon: (was gonna mention before but w\/e)19:02 Slick: better safe than sorry i guess19:02 Slick: crimmi next19:02 Slick: 00:10:875 (1,2,3,4) - don't fit the rhythm ending on blue ticks19:03 Arphimigon: i was gonna mention that in my mod19:03 Arphimigon: but ye19:03 Arphimigon: that rhythm scks19:03 Slick: 01:27:392 (1) - end on red tick19:04 Arphimigon: ye do that19:04 Slick: really?19:04 Slick: imo sounds better extended19:04 Arphimigon: its a weird section19:05 Arphimigon: let me listen for a bit19:05 Arphimigon: eh keep it w\/e its dodgy anyway19:06 Slick: streeteelf last19:07 Slick: 00:02:449 -19:07 Arphimigon: mmm19:07 Slick: reduce the sv of all sliders untill 00:10:033 -19:07 Slick: i tried long ago19:07 Slick: reducing the SV of all sliders before 00:10:033 -19:07 Slick: but it just didn't feel good19:07 Arphimigon: not much point imo19:07 Slick: but it may have been because i'm so used to those being fast19:08 Arphimigon: i like it how it is19:08 Slick: me 219:08 Slick: yeah he also mentions the same jumps exa did19:08 Slick: too big19:08 Slick: 00:57:224 (5,6,7) -19:08 Slick: on both bulidups19:08 Arphimigon: needs to be like slightly lower on the second atleast19:09 Arphimigon: tbh fullscreen jumps on a map like this? just no19:09 Arphimigon: song*19:09 Slick: (6) ?19:09 Arphimigon: ye 5 to 619:09 Slick: yeah and 01:38:684 (5,6,7,8,9) -19:09 Slick: mentions also to make them straight line but19:10 Slick: we talked about that already19:10 Arphimigon: ill test it again before i check it like a sniper19:10 Arphimigon: 01:39:190 (1,2,3) - move either 2 higher or 3 lower just sayin19:10 Slick: nice19:11 Slick: will do19:11 Slick: last note19:11 Slick: 00:25:707 (2) -19:11 Arphimigon: oh19:11 Slick: it's unstacked for even spacing19:11 Arphimigon: its up to that now19:11 Arphimigon: i wouldnt stack nope19:11 Arphimigon: well not there atleast19:12 Arphimigon: http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/ss\/3421544<\/a> this looks so weird19:12 Slick: but plays better?19:12 Arphimigon: i would say so19:12 Slick: i can probably do that19:13 Slick: while keeping the spacing even19:13 Slick: well that should be it19:13 Arphimigon: woot19:13 Slick: it's worth kds19:13 Arphimigon: i should post this with the ultramod19:13 Slick: post the log and title it \"all the mod suggestions slick was being a little bitch about\"19:13 *Arphimigon runs19:13 Arphimigon: about time i started that19:14 Slick: ?19:14 Slick: did you want to discuss19:15 Slick: all the things i ed on as well?19:15 Arphimigon: what things19:15 Slick: i only talked now about the suggestions that i was uncertian about19:15 Arphimigon: hm19:15 Slick: there are suggestions i ed as well19:15 Arphimigon: cant hurt to look at them19:15 Slick: lol19:15 Arphimigon: but if you felt sure of ing them you have your reasons19:16 Slick: okay we can take a look at some19:17 Slick: 00:23:853 (5) -19:17 Slick: place the end closer to 619:17 Slick: actually i didn't on many suggestions19:17 Arphimigon: that slider is fine how it is, however making it closer is preference19:18 Arphimigon: your call its not a big change either way19:18 Slick: 00:53:684 (1) - ctrl + g for better flow19:18 Slick: i ed on it19:18 Slick: flows even worse that way imop19:18 Slick: imo*19:18 Arphimigon: wow thats a bad iea19:18 Arphimigon: 00:53:347 (7,8,1) - like really19:18 Slick: xD19:18 Slick: it already flows badly19:18 Arphimigon: no its fine now19:18 Slick: well that should be it19:19 Slick: not much i ed on19:19 Slick: post the log now19:19 Arphimigon: not yet19:19 Arphimigon: imma post this with the mod19:19 *Arphimigon runs19:19 Arphimigon: imma afk, hop back and get to it19:19 Slick: np19:19 Slick: i'll save log19:19 *Slick is editing [http:\/\/osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org\/b\/731905 Rita - Bookmark Memories [Grimoire]]<\/div><\/div>FINALLY I'm getting to mod this, I when it was half mapped and not even submitted.What a long way it's been.[Grimoire]SB doesn't even change until about half way in that's sad imoTwo main problems would be overmapping and rhythm in general. There are weird points but those two cover up 90% of things that need to be fixed here.A LOT<\/strong> of \"make this slider 1\/4 shorter\"Lets begin!HP6 on that end slider + spinner? Pls 5. Fort sh be nice to the HR\/EZ player over here.-Intro- (up to 00:17:280 - )<\/center>Rhythm in here isnt bad but I guess it could be improved at a bunch of points, esp the end.For instance maybe a note 00:04:724 - could suit or something.00:10:117 - and a note here could suit also00:10:875 (1,2,3,4) - This is so unfitting<\/strong> perhaps a rhythm with less constant holding, try this, where note 1 starts at 00:10:875 - :<\/span>Rhythm<\/a><\/div><\/div>00:03:628 (1) - Weird NC by itself00:07:168 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - We spoke about rhythm here00:09:022 (6) - Looks better as a normal curve00:15:932 (1) - Turn into a note, there is no ive sound at the end of this00:16:100 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Pattern fix? k<\/span>Its not perfect but its better than what was there before<\/a><\/div><\/div>-Second thingy section- (up to kiai)<\/center>00:17:954 (3) - Two notes instead fit way better here and probably transition better into the slow slider00:21:831 (2) - Change into a note then a slider, a reverse slider starting on a red tick is weird here.00:21:831 (2,3,1) - Dodgy spacing, the 1\/2 is almost as close as the 1\/4 in a near space in time, please fix that if you dont do the above suggestion.00:26:802 (2) - No emphasis on this note, triplets actually start at<\/strong> 00:26:887 - so you may want to move this pattern further on the timeline<\/span>Better triplet rhtyhm k<\/a><\/div><\/div>00:29:246 (1,2,3) - Triplet makes sense here but sadly for the player it is offputting since 1\/4 isnt nice to play after a long slider<\/strong> like so, i would just remove the first note there00:30:763 (1,2,3) - In general, two long sliders like this are best accompanied by 1\/2 after, so basically make a sound at 00:31:943 - and make 00:31:774 (3) - not so long00:32:617 (5) - Make this 1\/4 shorter00:33:965 (3,4) - Ahem, I think note 3 would fit as a long slider<\/span>Like so<\/a><\/div><\/div>00:34:640 (5) - Make 1\/4 shorter?00:34:640 (5) - This wave sucks just letting you know, I can't give a better one since I suck more but im sure you can00:36:156 (1,2) - Perhaps three notes fit nicer here, does to me at least. Or at minimum make the slider end sooner.00:38:010 (3) - This start curve is hard to play in, try making a little smother like this:<\/span>SLIDER<\/a><\/div><\/div>00:38:347 (4,5,6) - Space 6 a bit more up-right please00:38:853 (1,1) - Too much spacing between these, move the first slider closer, and also perhaps rotate it 5 or 10 degrees to improve on the curve into the big one00:40:538 (1,2,3) - Im not sure about whether these should stay at all<\/strong> so make 00:39:359 (1) - extended by a 1\/2 beat and remove the next note after that00:43:235 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Too many damn long sliders asdffff, end 00:44:246 (1) - 1\/4 earlier, and also make 00:44:752 (2) - end 1\/4 earlier00:50:988 (4) - Extend 1\/4, but use the scale function since if you make the slider end further it will ruin the motion made.<\/span>What I just said<\/a><\/div><\/div>00:51:662 (6) - Turn into two notes please! Or you could turn this whole thing 00:51:662 (6,7) - into a reverse 1\/2 slider00:52:336 (1,2) - Imo suits if there is no blanket and the note just follows the slider normally00:53:684 (1) - End 1\/4 earlier again, sorry if it ruins this pattern00:54:190 (2,3,4) - Really weird to play<\/strong> likely due to the reverse starting on red tick, note + slider here00:55:370 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Jumps build up way too high way too quickly<\/strong>, its not THAT emphasised here, esp 00:57:224 (5,6) - perhaps limit at 2.3 or even 2 DS00:58:404 (1) - That curve on the slider doesnt look right, dont know why oh well00:58:404 (1,2,1) - Make that end slider into two notes it fits sooo nicely here01:00:089 (1,2,3,4,5) - This sudden turn into this slider could be better if... well um you changed the slider completely. Eh you can keep it but I would make the slider into a sort of curve that does with that stream.-First kiai-<\/center>No longer sliders really? Alrighty then01:02:954 (5,1) - Me and my hatred of red tick offbeat sliders when they aren't needed... hate much.01:04:134 (2,3) - Move note 3 so it follows this curve, the curve of the slider is likely to be played in full here so yeah, move that note.01:07:168 (1) - You may want to shorten this but honestly I like it, your choice except the SLIDERTICK HITSOUNDING<\/strong> which as far as I know since it sounds like a normal hitsound is unrankable<\/strong> so just remove the slider tick hitsounding. If I'm wrong then kill me.01:09:864 (3,4) - Too spaced for a 1\/4, raise it higher and basically this whole pattern 01:10:201 (4,5,6,7) - from that corner too01:12:561 (1) - asdf slider tick hitsounding i guess it happens often ill just not say anything01:15:932 (4) - Tbh making this into a 3\/4 length slider like 01:15:257 (1) - fits nicely here then making 01:16:269 - into a note like 01:15:595 (2) - and adding another note after is cool01:17:617 (1) - Remove NC, add it to the next sliderAfter first kiai to some point<\/center>01:28:572 (1) - Mentioned that it was too fast before, but imo I would just make it into a note01:30:679 (4,5) - Bluez imma cry, use the below rhythm but make sure the notes are close oki?<\/span>Rhythm to fix above problem<\/a><\/div><\/div>01:31:774 (1,2,3) - Reverse slider and short jump here ftw01:34:640 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - Thats a lot of notes, perhaps 01:36:493 (1,2) - slider to avoid finger death for the less stamina filled people01:44:078 (1) - Sorry again but end 1\/4 earlier01:45:257 (1) - End curve could be improved to play nicer ive done it earlier i think01:45:595 (2,3) - Um a but of a fast 1\/4 snap followed by a stack, perhaps make the slider 1\/4 shorter01:50:314 (1,2) - These 1\/4 snaps are killing my mind<\/strong> and even after that look at the distance of the 1\/2 is lesss than half ;-; rip reading01:56:887 (1,2) - 1\/1 length slider and two notes pls02:16:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Wat. Explain this<\/strong>02:23:348 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - JUMPS WOW<\/strong> nerf pls... just a little but NOT massive fullscreen. IM not saying make them normal jumps eitehr.02:24:022 (1) - End 1\/4 earlier again, fast ass slider into 1\/4 snap whilst being hard to control is bad and also this is hard to read and understand that 1\/4 note so just, make the slider end earlier<\/strong>02:29:415 - onwards to first dubstep drop<\/center>02:32:111 (1) - Extend 1\/4 and reverse it? Your choice entirely ofc not a big one02:37:168 (1,2,1) - Space notes a bit? imo vocals need it02:47:954 (3,4,1,2,3) - Feels so linearrrrr but you cant change it so w\/e skip it-DUBSTEP DROP ONE!?-<\/center>02:56:044 (1,2,1) - It was way better as a stacked stream. Hands down.03:02:448 (4,1) - Not a fan of directly stacking something on a hold slider, perhaps not a direct stack but only a partial overlap?03:12:477 (7,1) - Eh this could blanket better, lower the curve 4 pixels or smth03:13:909 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - I really want to play this as a sort of stream, esp since we had slider jumps just before 03:13:572 (2,3) - so it drowns out this little section03:16:943 (3) - You sure about reverse slidering this? Rhythm is better as a note to start it, and a note for the red tick then a slider on the white tick where it ended.-After dubstep drop, chill-<\/center>I liked this section tbh03:19:977 (2,3,4) - Broken spacing, you know what to do here.03:22:336 (1,2) - Merge together, just extend the slider and remove the note03:32:111 (5,6) - Imo this vocal sounds better as two 1\/2 sliders, more punchy.03:35:988 (2,3,4) - Reallllly risky<\/strong> there's the awkward play into that last slider and the next thats almost offscreen but overlapping the HP bar, move that 3 note down at least03:40:875 (1,1,2,3) - Blah blah weird 1\/4 snap after long slider blah make its end 1\/4 earlier blah03:44:583 (4,5,6) - make 5 into note, move 6 back 1\/2 of a beat and add a note.-THE HARD PART v2!?-<\/center>04:26:718 (1,1,1,1) - Playing this is like asking myself to... well I guess play that. Its way too jerky on the starts and causes the player to mess up the flow needed to actually play the pattern. Basically don't use those types of sliders, it sucks in this pattern in this particular way.04:27:729 (1,2,1,2) - Before on the doubles part (kinda doubles, this part 04:17:027 (2,1,2) - ) you increased the spacing of the second, id like to see that here.-The sloooooooooooooooooooooooow end<\/center>05:03:123 - Consider ending slider hereI thought this mod was gonna be longer lol.Have fun.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Slick<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 66 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2013<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Slick<\/a>\n\n \n 2015-07-22T16:54:54+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Krimek wrote:<\/h4>Hello there, mod as requested.Grimoire<\/strong><\/h2><\/center>[Settings]Add combo colours<\/li>I'm not that fan of hitsound volume 70% for kiai, but if you want to keep it, do so. Still I would prefer lower it a bit.<\/li>Arranger is Taishi<\/strong> and the Album\/Circle is from Electro.sinker (C85)<\/strong>. This should be added into metadata. Please find someone who can give you more corect informations.<\/li><\/ol><\/div>[Inherited timing sections]I knew that I could find a few unnecessary greenlines that shouldn't be in. I tried to look which of them don't affect toggle kiai time, sv, hitsound sample packs and\/or volume.<\/em>Here is a list of green lines that are similar to the greenline before and can be delete: <\/span>SPOILER<\/a>00:15:595 - 00:25:033 - 00:31:774 - 00:55:370 - 02:25:875 - 03:11:718 - 04:01:100 -<\/div><\/div>all fixed<\/span>Please keep in mind that even I could have made mistakes, so take one more look and check, if they are actually realy neccessary.Maybe you just forgot to change them for their actual purpose. If so, please fix them.<\/div>[New Combos]You should work on your NCs since there are many missplaced and\/or unneccessary NCs that doesn't fit to the rythm. 3l3y3s