{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Jarby<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,963 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed August 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Jarby<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T16:41:49+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n awp wrote:<\/h4>The OP was far more useless than anything else discussed in the thread, having made a statement with no justification behind it.<\/blockquote>This is how you start discussions\/troll.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/a><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Doomsday<\/a>\n\n \n Featured Artist\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,962 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Doomsday<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T16:42:32+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Like someone else has said, imo, The main reason why the MAT's seem useless is because the p-bubbles they give are not visible, because of how they are not integrated into the site, and instead are listed in a massive list, called the protobubble log. Of course, it seems that integrating them into the site is not an easy task, as well as it generally being low priority, so that likely won't change soon, so most people won't even know if a map has been protobubbled, which is why they seem useless.tl;dr - imo, MAT's are not all that important currently.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Mogsy<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,450 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Here since the beginning<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Mogsy<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T16:44:14+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n JarJarJacob wrote:<\/h4>awp wrote:<\/h4>The OP was far more useless than anything else discussed in the thread, having made a statement with no justification behind it.<\/blockquote>This is how you troll.<\/blockquote>Fixed.If you want to start a discussion, actually have some fucking justification behind it in the OP.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n ztrot<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 4,378 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ztrot<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T16:51:32+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n sometimes it takes a troll's message to get others to really talk about what needs to be done.I mean WTF is the MAT. It really doesn't do anything, it's just a Gaint subfourm of meaningless waste, most of the pubbles I have looked at are to be popped and it's like they give them out like stars.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I'll put something here at some point. . .<\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Jarby<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,963 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed August 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Jarby<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T16:55:06+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Mogsworth wrote:<\/h4>If you want to start a discussion, actually have some fucking justification behind it in the OP.<\/blockquote>Or I could provoke a response in a thread by forcing a direct message. At the moment, I really don't know what to think about the MAT. I'm seeing what the community has to say and that, I thought, was the best way of doing it.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/a><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Dangaard<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,232 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Dangaard<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T17:05:38+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n ztrot wrote:<\/h4>sometimes it takes a troll's message to get others to really talk about what needs to be done.I mean WTF is the MAT. It really doesn't do anything, it's just a Gaint subfourm of meaningless waste, most of the pubbles I have looked at are to be popped and it's like they give them out like stars.<\/blockquote>Since MAT is something between mapper and BAT, don't expect perfect results. If you find a pubble that should be popped, just mod it and bubble it later, it's a proto<\/strong>-bubble after all. Too many guys are popping pubbles but don't take care of the map afterwards.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n awp<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 11,869 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Here since the beginning<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n awp<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T17:07:06+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n JarJarJacob wrote:<\/h4>I'm seeing what the community has to say and that, I thought, was the best way of doing it.<\/blockquote>Well, at the end of the day, it worked.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Twally Spocks is best pony \u2665Proud of Etna Sliders<\/strong>.<\/span>You'll never pierce my tium armour.<\/del> Turns out, someone did!<\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Mashley<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,042 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Mashley<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T17:20:13+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I told you so <\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n 0_o<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,155 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n 0_o<\/a>\n\n \n 2010-04-09T17:25:23+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I think the concept behind the MAT team is good: an experienced modder (MAT) gives map proto-bubbles to show the BAT team that someone who knows what they are talking about deems the map as quality. This in theory would make the BAT's lives easier since they would be able to focus on maps that have already ed through a quality assurance check, which means less modding and more bubbles\/ranks.Unfortunately, with the limited resources given to the MATs the execution of this system hasn't really flown.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n ztrot<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 4,378 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed 3a263k