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I dropped Uramiya Honpo, kinda just read the start, but idk, it didn't really feel interesting, the story feels so unfocused, things kinda just happens, idk what am I supposed to be looking at with this, honestly i've re-read the first volume seeing if I had missed anything but it didn't seem so. Idk, It's just not my thing I guess
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Stellaris analysis
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I have not finished a playthrough as I said, because my thoughts on the game hasn't really changed since then, so i'm just going to say what I think now seeing as it's going to take me around 4 years to actually finish a run
stellaris is a grand strategy game by paradox, and if you've played like HOI4 or crusaders kings and the such you know what I will mean when I say that this game probably has the steepest learning curve i've ever played
stellaris feels like you are playing civilization but there are 20 extra buttons that you dont know what the fuck does, the tutorial does not explain anything, in fact, the tutorial is straight up broken and bad. It doesn't really explain half of the things of the game, and the things that they explain are just not true, for example I the "Press f10 to open x window" and it was straght up the wrong shortcut
when I played the game, if it wasn't that I'm foring myself to really go a little bit deeper on the stuff I do here to try and finish them, I would have dropped the game right there. Instead, I googled how to play, and I found like an hour long video explaining all the mechanis, 30 minute in I was so absolutely overwhelmed that I just decided fuck it, and just decided to play the game without knowing how to even build a ship
the only I knew were how to scan planets and build stuff in the planets, so I just did that for like an hour, I did learn some stuff along the way, but honestly, if the window had a button to say "do this automatically" (which is surprisingly half of the game), I would press it. And I do thing doing that is needed, mainly in research, as many of the technologies that got offered to me were like "20% increased extraction rate on x material", what does that material do? I have absolutely no idea!, and since there are like 10 different resources and I wanted to actually play the game, I just ignored as many parts as I could afford to ignore
While I know civ is 4X and stellaris is grand strategy, I did see that there was a civ point system, so I was like, "oh, I dont need to necessarily win by domination", so I mainly focused on economy and research bonus, hoping that I could get something along the lines of a cultural or religious victory, just form a hyper strong galactic alliance or something like that idk
the game in a way was pretty relaxing when played that way, just go around exploring stuff, reading all the events and stuff and trying to just expand in the best way I could, honestly kinda fun, but then, I made first with another civ
for context, later in the game a galactical union is formed, and all of the civs were at least neutral with me, all but the one I made first with, which was PISSED, even if I did my best to try to improve relationships, and they declared war, I thought I could hold off if I mainly stayed on my territory with the maximum defenses I could afffort but they kinda just had 6 times the firepower and I lost the war, losing my home system
after that, they seemed to be preparing for another war in order to finish me off, so I had to actually try to play the game and obtain defenses, and then I realized something. For all of the game so far, in each event and option, I kinda just went with the option I would personally RP, not really looking at the benefits, just going full RP, I had done this before in games like civ (which I know how to properly play but I still choose to play that way from time to time), but in order to actually have a chance to beating stellaris, at least without a high enough level of experience and playtime, the optimal way to play is to not read the events, just look at the possible answers and choose the one you think it's the most useful which is kinda boring IMO
but now i've learned how to build more ships, however i'm capped by the ammount of leaders I can select so I cant really do that many troops, but i'm currently just continuing my gameplay loop of exploring and building stuff but this time i'm actually building defenses and stuff
stellaris is just a constant rollercoaster of being the most overwhelming and frustrating game you've ever played and actually a pretty chill experience, honestly stellaris felt somehow more frustrating than fear and hunger, and that is saying a lot
however, I do think the game can be pretty interesting and give for tons of different runs and strategies, it's just a love-hate game for me, I just wish the game had a properly working tutorial and wasn't as hard to get into, it is for sure better than fear and hunger (I did not like that game). I will probably play some more stellaris in the future, try to finish this run and then maybe write a little bit more when I do lol
I have not finished a playthrough as I said, because my thoughts on the game hasn't really changed since then, so i'm just going to say what I think now seeing as it's going to take me around 4 years to actually finish a run
stellaris is a grand strategy game by paradox, and if you've played like HOI4 or crusaders kings and the such you know what I will mean when I say that this game probably has the steepest learning curve i've ever played
stellaris feels like you are playing civilization but there are 20 extra buttons that you dont know what the fuck does, the tutorial does not explain anything, in fact, the tutorial is straight up broken and bad. It doesn't really explain half of the things of the game, and the things that they explain are just not true, for example I the "Press f10 to open x window" and it was straght up the wrong shortcut
when I played the game, if it wasn't that I'm foring myself to really go a little bit deeper on the stuff I do here to try and finish them, I would have dropped the game right there. Instead, I googled how to play, and I found like an hour long video explaining all the mechanis, 30 minute in I was so absolutely overwhelmed that I just decided fuck it, and just decided to play the game without knowing how to even build a ship
the only I knew were how to scan planets and build stuff in the planets, so I just did that for like an hour, I did learn some stuff along the way, but honestly, if the window had a button to say "do this automatically" (which is surprisingly half of the game), I would press it. And I do thing doing that is needed, mainly in research, as many of the technologies that got offered to me were like "20% increased extraction rate on x material", what does that material do? I have absolutely no idea!, and since there are like 10 different resources and I wanted to actually play the game, I just ignored as many parts as I could afford to ignore
While I know civ is 4X and stellaris is grand strategy, I did see that there was a civ point system, so I was like, "oh, I dont need to necessarily win by domination", so I mainly focused on economy and research bonus, hoping that I could get something along the lines of a cultural or religious victory, just form a hyper strong galactic alliance or something like that idk
the game in a way was pretty relaxing when played that way, just go around exploring stuff, reading all the events and stuff and trying to just expand in the best way I could, honestly kinda fun, but then, I made first with another civ
for context, later in the game a galactical union is formed, and all of the civs were at least neutral with me, all but the one I made first with, which was PISSED, even if I did my best to try to improve relationships, and they declared war, I thought I could hold off if I mainly stayed on my territory with the maximum defenses I could afffort but they kinda just had 6 times the firepower and I lost the war, losing my home system
after that, they seemed to be preparing for another war in order to finish me off, so I had to actually try to play the game and obtain defenses, and then I realized something. For all of the game so far, in each event and option, I kinda just went with the option I would personally RP, not really looking at the benefits, just going full RP, I had done this before in games like civ (which I know how to properly play but I still choose to play that way from time to time), but in order to actually have a chance to beating stellaris, at least without a high enough level of experience and playtime, the optimal way to play is to not read the events, just look at the possible answers and choose the one you think it's the most useful which is kinda boring IMO
but now i've learned how to build more ships, however i'm capped by the ammount of leaders I can select so I cant really do that many troops, but i'm currently just continuing my gameplay loop of exploring and building stuff but this time i'm actually building defenses and stuff
stellaris is just a constant rollercoaster of being the most overwhelming and frustrating game you've ever played and actually a pretty chill experience, honestly stellaris felt somehow more frustrating than fear and hunger, and that is saying a lot
however, I do think the game can be pretty interesting and give for tons of different runs and strategies, it's just a love-hate game for me, I just wish the game had a properly working tutorial and wasn't as hard to get into, it is for sure better than fear and hunger (I did not like that game). I will probably play some more stellaris in the future, try to finish this run and then maybe write a little bit more when I do lol
Contagion analysis
I only really knew about this movei beforehand because it got more popular due to the pandemic, which was logical as this movie was about a pandemic, and while it isn't anything particullary mind-blowing or original, I think it was an enjoyable watch
the story was fairly good, even if it very unrealistic given recent events (tbh I cant really blame the dierctor for this, most movies are unrealistic, it's just that this has currently become blatantly so), and it does good with the setting it has, it doesn't go particullary in depth but it does have some elements that I think are really cool, like the fact that you can use touching people as a lethal weapon
the characters were likeable, the dialogue was fairly standard, nothing about these elements are particullary interesting but they aren't bad either, they're just average
I think the most interesting part of the movie currently isn't the movie itself, but more what the movie represents. An idea on how a very dangerous pandemic would play out in the modern day, and it is fairly funny on how over the top some of the elements are, it's really surprising, And I can really tell some people were imagining that something like this would happen IRL this when covid started.
I dont really have anything more to say, it's just a standard movie that has become more enjoyable as of recent, watch it if you dont really have anything else or if you just want to have anything in your second monitor or something
the story was fairly good, even if it very unrealistic given recent events (tbh I cant really blame the dierctor for this, most movies are unrealistic, it's just that this has currently become blatantly so), and it does good with the setting it has, it doesn't go particullary in depth but it does have some elements that I think are really cool, like the fact that you can use touching people as a lethal weapon
the characters were likeable, the dialogue was fairly standard, nothing about these elements are particullary interesting but they aren't bad either, they're just average
I think the most interesting part of the movie currently isn't the movie itself, but more what the movie represents. An idea on how a very dangerous pandemic would play out in the modern day, and it is fairly funny on how over the top some of the elements are, it's really surprising, And I can really tell some people were imagining that something like this would happen IRL this when covid started.
I dont really have anything more to say, it's just a standard movie that has become more enjoyable as of recent, watch it if you dont really have anything else or if you just want to have anything in your second monitor or something
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Watch The Flying Luna Clipper (1987)
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
MAL link above.
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
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I will, added to the listeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
Watch The Flying Luna Clipper (1987)
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/39020/Flying_Luna_Clipper
MAL link above.
You never cease to amaze me Patatitta. You are quite active on this forum.
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been here for like at least 2 years, it's actually quite nice nglnekonyo wrote: 4f722p
You never cease to amaze me Patatitta. You are quite active on this forum.
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will doKarmine wrote: 4x3m25
Watch Children of Men
Analyze the character of v1 from ultrakill
yourself
Like, why is he doing this and blah blah blah
Like, why is he doing this and blah blah blah
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I mean, while I do love ultrakill (it's my favourite shooter), I feel focusing on the characters and story is in a way missing the point of the game, since it's clear that they didn't put as much effort and ion into the lore compared to that one fishing level, so I don't really think that analyzing v1 would be particullary interestingDementedjet wrote: 2h5xe
Analyze the character of v1 from ultrakillyourself
Like, why is he doing this and blah blah blah
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g-darius: I did not know this game beforehand but yeah, I don't think I can analyze an arcade shoot em up game, I mostly analyze plots and stuff so idk what to really say, i'm not tim rogers, sorry
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metalocalypse analysis:
for contet, i've only watched the first season of this show, and that is because it is like good fast food, you can keep eating it but you really shouldn't, so I think just one kebab is enough
metalocalypse is a western animation "adult" comedy tv show about a band named dethlok, which are at the same time the most popular band of all time and also the heaviest band of all time
there isn't much of a plot, it is not episodic, but the plot really doesn't matter, as it still does have a story structure of a episodic show, so for the first 2 episodes you may be surprised at certain things until you realize that you're just going to see that joke repeated 22 aditional times
the jokes are very lazy, and in some scenario it looks like they tried harder to make it offensive or disgusting to watch than acutally funny, however, and the reason why I did not drop it, they actually have some funny jokes more often than not, but honestly that is saying more about my bad tastes than anything else.
My personal favourite joke was a scene i nthe control room where they go "dethlok is currently the 13th biggest economy on earth", I thought that was just funny, but then, the way they follow up that joke 12 chapters later (which, to be fair, they at least TRIED to follow up the joke unlike other comedies), is "dethlok has sured belgium and is now the 12th biggest economy on earth" which it just feels like you just made the exact same joke again more than really followed it up
and, as it seems to be a typical thing in these reviews, I dont think this trying to be child-friendly somewhat is hurting the product more than else for me, someoen who is definitively not 7yo currently. Because for as many people die brutal deaths, they will censor out swears, and I mean, the band just doesn't look that heavy because things like that, if they aren't allowed to add a swear imagine the shit they wanted to add that they were denied
there is nothing really else to this show, just average comedy really
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metalocalypse analysis:
for contet, i've only watched the first season of this show, and that is because it is like good fast food, you can keep eating it but you really shouldn't, so I think just one kebab is enough
metalocalypse is a western animation "adult" comedy tv show about a band named dethlok, which are at the same time the most popular band of all time and also the heaviest band of all time
there isn't much of a plot, it is not episodic, but the plot really doesn't matter, as it still does have a story structure of a episodic show, so for the first 2 episodes you may be surprised at certain things until you realize that you're just going to see that joke repeated 22 aditional times
the jokes are very lazy, and in some scenario it looks like they tried harder to make it offensive or disgusting to watch than acutally funny, however, and the reason why I did not drop it, they actually have some funny jokes more often than not, but honestly that is saying more about my bad tastes than anything else.
My personal favourite joke was a scene i nthe control room where they go "dethlok is currently the 13th biggest economy on earth", I thought that was just funny, but then, the way they follow up that joke 12 chapters later (which, to be fair, they at least TRIED to follow up the joke unlike other comedies), is "dethlok has sured belgium and is now the 12th biggest economy on earth" which it just feels like you just made the exact same joke again more than really followed it up
and, as it seems to be a typical thing in these reviews, I dont think this trying to be child-friendly somewhat is hurting the product more than else for me, someoen who is definitively not 7yo currently. Because for as many people die brutal deaths, they will censor out swears, and I mean, the band just doesn't look that heavy because things like that, if they aren't allowed to add a swear imagine the shit they wanted to add that they were denied
there is nothing really else to this show, just average comedy really
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Revolutionary Girl Utena: The Adolescence of Utena:
I have absolutely no fucking clue what just happened in this movie
The start I did get tho, and I do think in some ways I like it more than the original anime, the sitation seems to be more clear, the animation is better (expected from a movie), and it overall makes more sense, it's also somehow gayer than the original anime which I did not think it was possible
but now, for the rest of the movie, I actually cant really say anything because i've actually just didn't understasnd it LMAO
like unironically i'm completely lost and looking online doesn't really seem to help
next: cyberpunk: edgerunners
I have absolutely no fucking clue what just happened in this movie
The start I did get tho, and I do think in some ways I like it more than the original anime, the sitation seems to be more clear, the animation is better (expected from a movie), and it overall makes more sense, it's also somehow gayer than the original anime which I did not think it was possible
but now, for the rest of the movie, I actually cant really say anything because i've actually just didn't understasnd it LMAO
like unironically i'm completely lost and looking online doesn't really seem to help
next: cyberpunk: edgerunners
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cyberpunk edgerunners:
first of all, I haven't played cyberpunk, but enither has anyone who has watched this anime so lmao
This anime was alright, I have some issues with it but it comes down more to personal preference than it actually being bad or whatever.
I think the first thing that anyone will mention when talking about this anime is the animation and OST, which yeah, they're fucking amazing, but unless they're really really wack (which it is not, it's just really polished), it cant carry an entire anime or show, so while it is good, we aren't talking about hylics here, for better or for worse
I don't have issue with that, my main problem is with the actual plot itself, and that is, I just dont like action, and this anime is just really a regular, really well animated action anime on a cybperpunk setting, because as much as this anime tries to be cyberpunk, they dont really take that much advantage of the setting that much IMO.
There are one or two scenes that are in fact quite good yes, and that they required it to be cyberpunk, but I feel a lot of those concepts aren't really explored enough, instead, they just go "oh yeah we're cyberpunk we can replace a part of our body if we want to", but I don't think it actually explores transhumanism that much, they just say that it's something that you can do, and they use that in the anime, but only to boost the action scenes, which by some people it will be fine, but I just dont personally like that
also, there are a lot of scenes too that just feel like LOOK WE ARE CYBERPUNK WE HAVE NAKED GIRLS AND BOOBS AND PORN AND SEX, and it doesn't really do anything with it, again, it just mentions something that happens or you can do in a cyberpunk setting, but it doesn't really do anything with it
in fact, it's this element that I feel makes cyberpunk struggle to really stand up in the cyberpunk genre, as a lot of what edgerunners does, I feel blade runner 2049 did it first.
I feel cyberpunk only really starts to shine at around chapter 8, and that is when they really explore what over-modding your body can cause, as they have to deal with the consequences of accidently having murdered a civilian and they show them actually lose control of their body, this is amazing, I wish the entire show was about this. Instead, they just happen to have really big tolerance for that stuff and they mod it even further in order to sacrifice themselves to defeat big bad,
I know why does this anime exist and why does it has as much of a budget, it's CD projekt red, netflix and studio trigger, and cyberpunk 2077 was a game that they really were pushing hard even if it had a rocky launch, however, I feel ultra heaven really does fix a lot of the issues that I pointed it out here, like actually abusing the cyberpunk nature of the world. I just wish they adapted that instead but I get why this did not happen
action scenes are cool tho
next: Shinsekai Yori
first of all, I haven't played cyberpunk, but enither has anyone who has watched this anime so lmao
This anime was alright, I have some issues with it but it comes down more to personal preference than it actually being bad or whatever.
I think the first thing that anyone will mention when talking about this anime is the animation and OST, which yeah, they're fucking amazing, but unless they're really really wack (which it is not, it's just really polished), it cant carry an entire anime or show, so while it is good, we aren't talking about hylics here, for better or for worse
I don't have issue with that, my main problem is with the actual plot itself, and that is, I just dont like action, and this anime is just really a regular, really well animated action anime on a cybperpunk setting, because as much as this anime tries to be cyberpunk, they dont really take that much advantage of the setting that much IMO.
There are one or two scenes that are in fact quite good yes, and that they required it to be cyberpunk, but I feel a lot of those concepts aren't really explored enough, instead, they just go "oh yeah we're cyberpunk we can replace a part of our body if we want to", but I don't think it actually explores transhumanism that much, they just say that it's something that you can do, and they use that in the anime, but only to boost the action scenes, which by some people it will be fine, but I just dont personally like that
also, there are a lot of scenes too that just feel like LOOK WE ARE CYBERPUNK WE HAVE NAKED GIRLS AND BOOBS AND PORN AND SEX, and it doesn't really do anything with it, again, it just mentions something that happens or you can do in a cyberpunk setting, but it doesn't really do anything with it
in fact, it's this element that I feel makes cyberpunk struggle to really stand up in the cyberpunk genre, as a lot of what edgerunners does, I feel blade runner 2049 did it first.
I feel cyberpunk only really starts to shine at around chapter 8, and that is when they really explore what over-modding your body can cause, as they have to deal with the consequences of accidently having murdered a civilian and they show them actually lose control of their body, this is amazing, I wish the entire show was about this. Instead, they just happen to have really big tolerance for that stuff and they mod it even further in order to sacrifice themselves to defeat big bad,
I know why does this anime exist and why does it has as much of a budget, it's CD projekt red, netflix and studio trigger, and cyberpunk 2077 was a game that they really were pushing hard even if it had a rocky launch, however, I feel ultra heaven really does fix a lot of the issues that I pointed it out here, like actually abusing the cyberpunk nature of the world. I just wish they adapted that instead but I get why this did not happen
action scenes are cool tho
next: Shinsekai Yori
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's pretty good imo
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I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
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that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, some are the opposite. This is better viewed that played. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!). Look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like. and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself. If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list. And even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
this made my adhd really stressedPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, this is one of those games. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!), look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like, and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself, If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list, and even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
but anyway:
i understand if the game wasn't great to you, i liked it for the story, of which i completely understood after deep diving into it. i didn't find this from a big youtuber, by the way. i found this game by myself and wanted to try it. i really like the premise of the story and lore, but i do think it could've been executed better aswell. again, i understand if you didn't like it, i just like it for the story. thank you so much for the analysis by the way! also, i'm a coward too so i don't want any horror recommendations :/
Topic Starter
I still would advice anyone to really try to make their scope in anything bigger, so I still feel you should try doing any of the things I really listed there, and for anyone else reading this, trust me, you wont regret itlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
this made my adhd really stressedPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
that game was WAY shorter I expected it to be (also, I don't know if you actually read these in full, I have some comments directed at YOU specifically lostsilver, so please read that last bit in it's ENTIRETY, sorry if it's too long, but I really have stuff I want to tell you, I would make it shorter but it would just feel like i'm gatekeeping and shit if I try to do so)lostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
alr!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I would normally not play horror but this does seem like mascot horror which isn't really scary so I will try it outlostsilver wrote: 2h4ne
play andy's apple farm on steam
it's pretty good imo
it's got a good story too
andy's apple farm analysis:
this is an early access game, I don't know the devs or anything like that, but given as the game was 20 minute long, it was released in 2021, we're almost in 2023 and there is still no chapter 2, I wouldn't put too much faith on there actually being mroe chapters, so I will talk about it as an standalone game
first of all, as I predicted, this game isn't really scary, the ambient itself is not scary, and the jumpscares are so predictible it doesn't really matter. Not only that, but it's easy to see how the game is coded after one or two events, so you know that if you just run into the character that is trying to chase you, and let them get you, that it's not actually bad and it's the way the game is supposed to be advanced, so it really removes any tension in order to do that
I don't play many horror games, I'm a coward as I said, but I feel that if you want to make something scary, you must abstract and obscure how the game operates, so you cant just do what I did
there isn't much in the way of gameplay, as it's basically purely narrative, however, the way the plot is actually delivered is in this very game-theory baity way. What I mean by that is that the game is made to be confusing, and it's not like a regular confusing game, that you can later kinda just think about it, recall all the events and really understand it, but, they put lots of lore in text that only appear for like 3 frames, which means: you aren't going to catch it, and you're not actually going to understand the plot after you finish playing it
the only way you can really manage to actually read the lore and understand it, is if you somehow are able to freeze on those frames, and the only way to really do it is either if you have god-like reflexes and manage to screenshot it the frame text appears before it dissapears, or if you just so happen that you're recording, since you can go frame by frame in the video
if you wanted to discover all the lore by yourself, once encountered one of these elements, you would need to create a new save file entirely, and then get to that point recording, and then watch the recording back to really get it, this is not good story-telling, this is hard to access for the sake of it being hard to access
let's say you actually did all of that, now we have the lore, that kinda does describe the backstory of some of the characters and stuff, now what?, what we have is basically a backstory, are we going to see the story unfold?, well, not really, since that isn't really on the game, and I know that it is a early access and there is only 1 chapter, but you should have at least have some payoff and actually some story in play on an early access verison of the game, you shouldn't release a game like this with only 1 chapter if that chapter is only backstory, this is like releasing a game but only the tutorial
now, directed at lostsilver i'm aware how you would find a game like this, you probably saw a gampeplay from markiplier or any other big youtuber that covers these type of games, however, you must know that there is a difference between games that make for good viewing experiences, and games with good gameplay experiences, some games are better on video that on gameplay, this is one of those games. I don't blame you for seeing a video and believing that this is a good game, because it is made to feel that way.
Not only that, but these game are algorythmic games, these is a short early-access game, that basically ceased developement apparently, that tried to profit on the mascot horror/analog horror youtube trend that was booming at that time, you could probably say that this game is a cash-grab and it would be really hard to prove otherwise
so now, how would you, lostsilver, be able find great gameplay games? for example, my favourite game of all time is disco elysium, which is absolutely NOT a youtube game, in fact, if you search it on youtube, you probably wont find any gameplays by big name creators
well, you either must curate were you get recommendations from, or learn how to properly analyze a videogame and really learn for yourself how to identify these type of games. The second you will get with experience as you get older and play more diverse stuff, because that's the other thing, dont just limit yourself to youtube/markiplier games, but explore the entire market
look at videogame review websites (metacritic, steam250, glitchwave, etc) and try whatever they catch your interest from the generally well reviewed games (keep in mind, a lot of the time a lower score with a lot more reviews is better than a high score with low ammount of reviewers!), look in youtube at games that you have personally enjoyed without watching a full gameplay of it before, and look at what other videogames those people have ed, maybe watch the first 5 minuet of one of those gameplay, and decide to play it yourself without watching the rest
ask around for friends, ask what their favourite videogames are, look at videogame publishers that have published games that you like, and do this often, try to open your views on the gaming market as much as possible, try those free epic games you claimed that you never played, even if you end up disliking them, the fact that you have now played it, you know more about yourself and what genres you like, and you will be able to find better games in the future
the game market is full fo people that will try to sell games on trends and just try to make a quick cash, the most clear example of this would be something like garten of banban, so please, be able to identify garten of banban's by yourself, If you enjoy some of those games it's totally fine, but I feel that there isn't really any harm on going really outside of your comfort zone, because maybe you will find a experience that will blow you away, in fact that is the reason why i'm making this thread! I want to see all that I have yet to really explore, and so far, i'm finding some really good stuff!
my personal recommendation if you want a game similar like this one but that I personally think is way better, try pony island, it's also analog stuff, but it was created before that really became popular and it's an honest to god really good game, if you want more game recommendation just tell me, tell me games that you enjoy or genres you want to explore and I will give you recommendations, i've been playing games for all my life so I believe I can really give you a good list, and even If I have told you that I'm a coward that hates horror, my brother does not, so even if you want horror recommendation, I can ask him for recommendations that I can forward to you, just reply to this thread, talk to me in osu dm's or on discord (my nick is "patatitta")
I'm not saying your likings are invalid or anything like that, but I just feel you're in a way really limiting your scope with these type of games, and I feel you could probably find a new favourite game of all time if you just look a little bit, so please, let me try to help you and give you some recommendations, even if I fail and you hate those games, please, let me try
(these tips also apply to everyone, hell, even I can really give recommendations to anyone who asks, not just for games either. But I'm mainly mentioning lostsilver since they are the one person who recommended this game)
also, if money is a concern, piracy is morally correct if you are not able to buy the game anyways, I know of safe resoruces to really pirate from, so I can also give you all of those
(again, i'm heavily sorry that this was this long, but yeah, I hope you understand where i'm coming from)
but anyway:
i understand if the game wasn't great to you, i liked it for the story, of which i completely understood after deep diving into it. i didn't find this from a big youtuber, by the way. i found this game by myself and wanted to try it. i really like the premise of the story and lore, but i do think it could've been executed better aswell. again, i understand if you didn't like it, i just like it for the story. thank you so much for the analysis by the way!
i almost forgot i requested something here and then realized it's been at the bottom of the list the entire time. oof
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Topic Starter
oh the incest game, I can try it out yeah,Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
i almost forgot i requested something here and then realized it's been at the bottom of the list the entire time. oof
you can use yuzu or ryujinx to emulate the game if you want to, i'm not going to yell at you if you do (don't know what was kodaka thinking by making this a switch exclusive lol)
i have another suggestion which is shorter, more accesible and definitely not a weird-ass game in the slightest:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
anyways, I can try emulating it, tbh I haven't tried, was too busy also with all the other reqs, but now that i've went throguh almost all of them, I think I can try it out, will see tomorrow anyways
tomorrow update: I got rain code to work, so far it's good
Topic Starter
I was mainly focusing on beating rain code, but I didn't want to keep it playing it and I was kinda bored so I decided to check the coffin of andy and leyley
when in my previous post I said "oh the incest game" I was just following the meme I had heard. Now I get it
I didn't like this game, in fact, I would say I pretty much hate it, I honestly dont get the appeal, and i'm not saying it like I have a clue in my heard but I dont want to it it so i'm saying this, i'm being completely honest when I say I don't get the appeal
This game is a narrative puzzle-ish game, so think the same gameplay loop as OneShot, just solve little puzzles and just enjoy the good plot. While i'm awful at puzzole games and I had to end up using a guide to solve a few of OneShot's puzzles. I can see how would you have solved them, and some of them were quite clever. However, with andy and leyley, these puzzles just comes down to spam Z with every interactable object until you hit the solution. This is not because the puzzles are hard, but because there are MULTIPLE solutions to each problem, however the game will only choose own, so I'm many cases I had an idea on how to solve something, and then I just couldn't interact with the object that would have solved that whole situation
to be fair, I did also skip some puzzles in OneShot as I said before and I fucking loved that game, however, with andy and leyley, the plot is in my personal opinion just really weird and uncomfortable. My biggest problem are just the two protagonist, they're both very unlikeable pieces of shit. However I feel you must connect with the characters somewhat which I just dont get.
Unlikable protagonist aren't itself bad, there are many games and stories where the main guy just sucks, the problem is when the plot is entirely character-based, and so far, there hasn't been any real consequence for any of their actions. It's just a game where you watch two incestuous psychopath (and no, they dont have any justification of why they're this way) run around and do uncomfortable shit with bad puzzles until the game ends, i'm sorry if i'm being way more negative with this game than with many others that I did not enjoy but I just actually hate this game
now, this game has routes, however I don't think they do it particullary well?, I feel they're two type of routes in videogames. The one that are just very clear cut choices which you know the consequences, so think something like undertale, and the ones where it's a lot of little actions that you don't realize they're really contributing to an ending however they do, so think disco elysium. This is more similar to the second half, however, they dont pull it off nearly as well as disco elysium, at least in my opinion
disco elysium ending is itself just a can of worms of game design, probably one of the hardest things to analyze just because how off the wall and how different it is to literally every other videogame ever. But the gist of it is that when you start roleplaying as your character, and take the choices you think are right, at the end of the game, you will get an ending that's appropiate for your actions and personality as a player, so it's an ending that while it may be less different than something like undertale, it will probably have a bigger impact to you as a person. But, as I said, the character's here are unlikeable, so you wont really ever get into their skin, so you're being forced between multiple choices you dont want to make, and being forced into a route that you didn't knew it was possible to avoid, this just doesn't really work for me
To give the game some credit, the art is really good, I think that's as far as compliments I can give
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
but really, what's the point?, it's a character-based story, with a branching narrative, but the characters are unlikable, I only see anyone really getting into this game if they can relate to the protagonist, but then, the game doesn't seem to say anything just yet, because the game is in fucking early access so there isn't even a payoff to the story just yet.
I unironically just dont get this game
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updates: finished chapter 14 for shinsekai yori, and i'm really enjoying it
I'm still at the start of rain code, but so far it's a pretty good game
when in my previous post I said "oh the incest game" I was just following the meme I had heard. Now I get it
I didn't like this game, in fact, I would say I pretty much hate it, I honestly dont get the appeal, and i'm not saying it like I have a clue in my heard but I dont want to it it so i'm saying this, i'm being completely honest when I say I don't get the appeal
This game is a narrative puzzle-ish game, so think the same gameplay loop as OneShot, just solve little puzzles and just enjoy the good plot. While i'm awful at puzzole games and I had to end up using a guide to solve a few of OneShot's puzzles. I can see how would you have solved them, and some of them were quite clever. However, with andy and leyley, these puzzles just comes down to spam Z with every interactable object until you hit the solution. This is not because the puzzles are hard, but because there are MULTIPLE solutions to each problem, however the game will only choose own, so I'm many cases I had an idea on how to solve something, and then I just couldn't interact with the object that would have solved that whole situation
to be fair, I did also skip some puzzles in OneShot as I said before and I fucking loved that game, however, with andy and leyley, the plot is in my personal opinion just really weird and uncomfortable. My biggest problem are just the two protagonist, they're both very unlikeable pieces of shit. However I feel you must connect with the characters somewhat which I just dont get.
Unlikable protagonist aren't itself bad, there are many games and stories where the main guy just sucks, the problem is when the plot is entirely character-based, and so far, there hasn't been any real consequence for any of their actions. It's just a game where you watch two incestuous psychopath (and no, they dont have any justification of why they're this way) run around and do uncomfortable shit with bad puzzles until the game ends, i'm sorry if i'm being way more negative with this game than with many others that I did not enjoy but I just actually hate this game
now, this game has routes, however I don't think they do it particullary well?, I feel they're two type of routes in videogames. The one that are just very clear cut choices which you know the consequences, so think something like undertale, and the ones where it's a lot of little actions that you don't realize they're really contributing to an ending however they do, so think disco elysium. This is more similar to the second half, however, they dont pull it off nearly as well as disco elysium, at least in my opinion
disco elysium ending is itself just a can of worms of game design, probably one of the hardest things to analyze just because how off the wall and how different it is to literally every other videogame ever. But the gist of it is that when you start roleplaying as your character, and take the choices you think are right, at the end of the game, you will get an ending that's appropiate for your actions and personality as a player, so it's an ending that while it may be less different than something like undertale, it will probably have a bigger impact to you as a person. But, as I said, the character's here are unlikeable, so you wont really ever get into their skin, so you're being forced between multiple choices you dont want to make, and being forced into a route that you didn't knew it was possible to avoid, this just doesn't really work for me
To give the game some credit, the art is really good, I think that's as far as compliments I can give
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
but really, what's the point?, it's a character-based story, with a branching narrative, but the characters are unlikable, I only see anyone really getting into this game if they can relate to the protagonist, but then, the game doesn't seem to say anything just yet, because the game is in fucking early access so there isn't even a payoff to the story just yet.
I unironically just dont get this game
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updates: finished chapter 14 for shinsekai yori, and i'm really enjoying it
I'm still at the start of rain code, but so far it's a pretty good game
Well since you're running low on requests...
Watch Boogiepop (Both versions. 2019 recommended to be watched first).
Watch Boogiepop (Both versions. 2019 recommended to be watched first).
Topic Starter
sureeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
Well since you're running low on requests...
Watch Boogiepop (Both versions. 2019 recommended to be watched first).
hahahaPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
i think the game is OK but i didn't expect it to re-invent the wheel or anything, it's an RPG maker game made (mostly?) by one person after all, we can only have so many of these and be revolutionary
i, too, wanted to see if this game had anything special going on besides le funny incest memegame Xdd so it's good to see we have similar views on it. hopefully it gets better when all the chapters get released
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anyway, have you played mother 3? i can give you a translated rom if you can't find one
Topic Starter
oh yeah mother 3 was great, more of a fan of earthbound tho, can text-wall about any of those two if you want to, even if I played it a while back nowSerraionga wrote: 2l6i67
hahahaPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
now, this game was successful, very succesful, people do like it, you probably recommended this because you like this game, so there is something that this game has that i'm just not seeing, at least it's how it feels like, It does feel like i'm missing the point of the game here
i think the game is OK but i didn't expect it to re-invent the wheel or anything, it's an RPG maker game made (mostly?) by one person after all, we can only have so many of these and be revolutionary
i, too, wanted to see if this game had anything special going on besides le funny incest memegame Xdd so it's good to see we have similar views on it. hopefully it gets better when all the chapters get released
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anyway, have you played mother 3? i can give you a translated rom if you can't find one
Topic Starter
disco elysium is my favourite game of all time, however, it's not an easy game to talk about, like, at all, look at the average length of your typical disco elysium analysis, if I truly were to go in depth I would need to write something that's as long as those videoscephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
pata can you wall-text about disco elysium i really want to see what you have to say about it
disco elysium isn't just a videogame for you to play and have fun with it. Disco elysium is art in it's purest form. It doesn't feel like it's trying to be fun, if you play disco you know what you've signed up for, and the game will remind you of it
The game in essence is a cRPG developped in estonia by a bunch of depressed communists. The premise of the game is simple, you're an insomniac detective who just woke up from a night of pure drinking in your hotel room, you learn that there is a corpse hanged up to a tree in a back-yard. Another detective by the name of kim kitsuragi also just arrived to the scene, and it's your duty to try solving the case
the actual gameplay is just pure dialogue, you read text, and then you click on the thing you want your character to say or do, there is no combat or anything here, this game is an interactive book. There are also permanent choices, that have a % chance of succcess depending on the stats of your character, that chance however can never be 100% or 0% success, and in fact, there are some checks that is better to actually fail than to succeed at.
However, the game is much more than a murder mistery, that murder mistery is just a medium for the game to disscuss politics and philosophy, nothing about "games must be apolitical", this game is hardcore, applicable to the real world, politics. And that is, because everyone in reality does have some sort of politial ideology, and when you try interviewing people for you to solve the crime, you can see that political ideology leaking in, and you can either answer to what the person is saying, or to not, in fact, some side quests require to certain political characters or groups. The main ideology this game represents are Fascism, Communism, Capitalism, and being a centrist. If you think some of the choices are a bit too extreme, dont worry, it's this way by design
There was a meme a while back saying "every copy of mario 64 is personalized!", however, every copy of disco elysium is actually personalized. There are hundreds of dialogue choices, and all of them matter, only a few hours in your playthrough is already going to be very different to the playthrough of any other person, there are also multiple endings to the game depending on the choices you make, and also luck
In this way, the RNG also works to differentiate your playthrough even further, not only that, but the RNG works as a way for you to avoid min-maxing the game and playing it following your true feelings. If you cant guarantee anything, why bother grinding it really
These dialogue choices at the start may seem kinda normal, however, the game is actually gauging your personality in the background, every choice has an impact on something, so just after a while of playing, the game will know perfectly how you are as a person, and will change some of the dialogue for other dialogue to say stuff that is relevant to you, to challenge YOUR political ideologies, to challenge YOUR philosophy. That combined with the beautifully written dialogue will give for moments that will truly impact you as a person, and it even doesn't really matter if you didn't have too many clears ideas on those more complex issues from before you played disco elysium, after you finish it, you will probably know more about yourself as a person from before you started the game.
This game is a cRPG, a computer roleplaying game, and while in many RPG you can just not roleplay and just troll or min-max or whatever, you cant do that for disco, as the only to not really RP while playing disco would be lying to yourself, and the game WILL call you out on it.
That's the core of the game, however, every fucking design choice in this game goes contrary to the industry standard. Most of the ways a story is told, you know a lot of the world, if you're reading a book it may even include a map of the world like with something with lord of the rings. You may be reading in a third person perspective with a narrator that will give you more information than the protagonist have, or you maybe can understand the design principles going into a certain piece of media to be able to successfully predict future twists or ideas, disco isn't this way. The world is bigger than you, there will be doors that you will never be able to open and explore, you will never see what the world was really before or after you left it, you don't know the backstories of any of the characters beforehand, you cant predict the game, you dont deserve to know about the actual game as you're just one of the many characters. You as a player dont have more worth than a npc
The actual philosophy of disco is... weird, and i'm not qualified enough to talk about it, but it does seem every person has a different interpretation of disco. I've seen debate over what the actual name of the game means, and if we haven't even reached a conclusion on what the words disco elysium actually means, you know you're going to be fucked trying to piece a full proof argument on the game.
Art exists for a reason, there is a reason why someone would draw a book depicting an idea instead of just writting a little summary on why they think x is bad, and that is, because art conveys feelings. A lot of feelings. With disco elysium those feelings are extremely complex, and it's actually nearly impossible to describe what disco elysium actually feels like to me, I don't have the vocabulary. Even by writting this is in a way prioritizing some feelings over others, because many of the ideas feel like they contradict, however you dont feel like there is anything wrong with it, however, when you write about it, you cant really contradict yourself in the same way and keep the same emotions.
A lot of the game feels like it's impossible, like the ending. By any metrics and following the bases of any review or literally analysis i've seen in my life, the finale is just bad. However, when you reach the ending, even if it feels like it's objectevely unfair, frustrating, unsatisfactory, underwhelming, an insult to you as a person, and a contradiction to everything you've been led to believe while playing disco, the finale is good, really good.
It's this reason why every disco elysium video is at least one hour long, and that none of the video actually share any ideas with the other videos, disco is such a fucking wild experience that it's nearly impossible to correctly portray. You can't have a matpat video here explaining a theory that supposedly resolves the game, such explanation does not seem to exist.
This games goes DEEP too, it doesn't just try to argue for certain philosophical ideas, it shows how those ideas can change a person, how that person change can change other person. This game tries to describe how you would a political extreme, why would you want to believe that, why sometimes being radical is needed, why sometimes being racial is a bad idea, what does it mean to believe in a political ideology, it shows that not having a political ideology on itself is a political ideology. It talks about love, about breakup, about depression, about addiction, about racism, about police, about the paranormal, about disco music, about death, about mental disorders, about deligion. Disco elysium can mean whatever you want it to mean, as what disco elysium teachs you is a way of thinking, not just an idea.
If you internalize what disco elysium tells you, you will learn many things. If you decide to put on the same lenses that disco elysium instructs you to use while playing the game for another videogame, you will understand shit, and probably be more depressed on the end, but that's just a side effect. In many ways, it does really make you think different about the fnaf movie and this is actually not a joke, disco elysium changed the way I see art in the first place, in many ways it's unfair to compair disco to most videogames, since disco tries to be much, much more
The game currently is on a weird legal ground, basically the developpers dont get any money, so it's morably justifiable to it over the seven seas, so feel free to do so if you want to give this masterpiece a try, there is a 2 hour video by people make games where they try breaking it down, nothing about disco elysium can be simple it seems
I haven't really touched much on the actual message of disco elysium, honesly I feel all of this falls short. but I think it's just clear why, you could try watching one of those video analysis but I dont promise you will understand much after you watch two different ones
Topic Starter
sorry, you posted this while I was writting that post
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updates: still finishing shinsekai yori, i'm at chapter 20 rn
rain code is good, still on it, probably will take me a month to finish seeing how long the game seems to be
I never played saints row 1 or any saints row, do I need to play it to understand 2?Winnyace wrote: 3z6x1k
Review Saints Row 2
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updates: still finishing shinsekai yori, i'm at chapter 20 rn
rain code is good, still on it, probably will take me a month to finish seeing how long the game seems to be
Somewhat. The story is less important here since it is kinda generic and mostly just a backdrop for the gameplay. There are videos that explain the story.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I never played saints row 1 or any saints row, do I need to play it to understand 2?
Topic Starter
I'm not a fan for watching a video to recap, I would have to play saints row 1 and 2 which is probably going to take a whileWinnyace wrote: 3z6x1k
Somewhat. The story is less important here since it is kinda generic and mostly just a backdrop for the gameplay. There are videos that explain the story.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I never played saints row 1 or any saints row, do I need to play it to understand 2?
You would have to use an emulator to play SR1 on PC, as it is a Xbox 360 exclusive. The PC port of SR2 is also junk, so you might as well play the second game in the emulator too.
Topic Starter
if you've played it one that's enough, I personally love since I'm a sucker for cRPGs and this type of storytelling, not everyone will have the same experience as mecephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
oh hell yesPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
disco elysium is my favourite game of all time, however, it's not an easy game to talk about, like, at all, look at the average length of your typical disco elysium analysis, if I truly were to go in depth I would need to write something that's as long as those videoscephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
pata can you wall-text about disco elysium i really want to see what you have to say about it
disco elysium isn't just a videogame for you to play and have fun with it. Disco elysium is art in it's purest form. It doesn't feel like it's trying to be fun, if you play disco you know what you've signed up for, and the game will remind you of it
The game in essence is a cRPG developped in estonia by a bunch of depressed communists. The premise of the game is simple, you're an insomniac detective who just woke up from a night of pure drinking in your hotel room, you learn that there is a corpse hanged up to a tree in a back-yard. Another detective by the name of kim kitsuragi also just arrived to the scene, and it's your duty to try solving the case
the actual gameplay is just pure dialogue, you read text, and then you click on the thing you want your character to say or do, there is no combat or anything here, this game is an interactive book. There are also permanent choices, that have a % chance of succcess depending on the stats of your character, that chance however can never be 100% or 0% success, and in fact, there are some checks that is better to actually fail than to succeed at.
However, the game is much more than a murder mistery, that murder mistery is just a medium for the game to disscuss politics and philosophy, nothing about "games must be apolitical", this game is hardcore, applicable to the real world, politics. And that is, because everyone in reality does have some sort of politial ideology, and when you try interviewing people for you to solve the crime, you can see that political ideology leaking in, and you can either answer to what the person is saying, or to not, in fact, some side quests require to certain political characters or groups. The main ideology this game represents are Fascism, Communism, Capitalism, and being a centrist. If you think some of the choices are a bit too extreme, dont worry, it's this way by design
There was a meme a while back saying "every copy of mario 64 is personalized!", however, every copy of disco elysium is actually personalized. There are hundreds of dialogue choices, and all of them matter, only a few hours in your playthrough is already going to be very different to the playthrough of any other person, there are also multiple endings to the game depending on the choices you make, and also luck
In this way, the RNG also works to differentiate your playthrough even further, not only that, but the RNG works as a way for you to avoid min-maxing the game and playing it following your true feelings. If you cant guarantee anything, why bother grinding it really
These dialogue choices at the start may seem kinda normal, however, the game is actually gauging your personality in the background, every choice has an impact on something, so just after a while of playing, the game will know perfectly how you are as a person, and will change some of the dialogue for other dialogue to say stuff that is relevant to you, to challenge YOUR political ideologies, to challenge YOUR philosophy. That combined with the beautifully written dialogue will give for moments that will truly impact you as a person, and it even doesn't really matter if you didn't have too many clears ideas on those more complex issues from before you played disco elysium, after you finish it, you will probably know more about yourself as a person from before you started the game.
This game is a cRPG, a computer roleplaying game, and while in many RPG you can just not roleplay and just troll or min-max or whatever, you cant do that for disco, as the only to not really RP while playing disco would be lying to yourself, and the game WILL call you out on it.
That's the core of the game, however, every fucking design choice in this game goes contrary to the industry standard. Most of the ways a story is told, you know a lot of the world, if you're reading a book it may even include a map of the world like with something with lord of the rings. You may be reading in a third person perspective with a narrator that will give you more information than the protagonist have, or you maybe can understand the design principles going into a certain piece of media to be able to successfully predict future twists or ideas, disco isn't this way. The world is bigger than you, there will be doors that you will never be able to open and explore, you will never see what the world was really before or after you left it, you don't know the backstories of any of the characters beforehand, you cant predict the game, you dont deserve to know about the actual game as you're just one of the many characters. You as a player dont have more worth than a npc
The actual philosophy of disco is... weird, and i'm not qualified enough to talk about it, but it does seem every person has a different interpretation of disco. I've seen debate over what the actual name of the game means, and if we haven't even reached a conclusion on what the words disco elysium actually means, you know you're going to be fucked trying to piece a full proof argument on the game.
Art exists for a reason, there is a reason why someone would draw a book depicting an idea instead of just writting a little summary on why they think x is bad, and that is, because art conveys feelings. A lot of feelings. With disco elysium those feelings are extremely complex, and it's actually nearly impossible to describe what disco elysium actually feels like to me, I don't have the vocabulary. Even by writting this is in a way prioritizing some feelings over others, because many of the ideas feel like they contradict, however you dont feel like there is anything wrong with it, however, when you write about it, you cant really contradict yourself in the same way and keep the same emotions.
A lot of the game feels like it's impossible, like the ending. By any metrics and following the bases of any review or literally analysis i've seen in my life, the finale is just bad. However, when you reach the ending, even if it feels like it's objectevely unfair, frustrating, unsatisfactory, underwhelming, an insult to you as a person, and a contradiction to everything you've been led to believe while playing disco, the finale is good, really good.
It's this reason why every disco elysium video is at least one hour long, and that none of the video actually share any ideas with the other videos, disco is such a fucking wild experience that it's nearly impossible to correctly portray. You can't have a matpat video here explaining a theory that supposedly resolves the game, such explanation does not seem to exist.
This games goes DEEP too, it doesn't just try to argue for certain philosophical ideas, it shows how those ideas can change a person, how that person change can change other person. This game tries to describe how you would a political extreme, why would you want to believe that, why sometimes being radical is needed, why sometimes being racial is a bad idea, what does it mean to believe in a political ideology, it shows that not having a political ideology on itself is a political ideology. It talks about love, about breakup, about depression, about addiction, about racism, about police, about the paranormal, about disco music, about death, about mental disorders, about deligion. Disco elysium can mean whatever you want it to mean, as what disco elysium teachs you is a way of thinking, not just an idea.
If you internalize what disco elysium tells you, you will learn many things. If you decide to put on the same lenses that disco elysium instructs you to use while playing the game for another videogame, you will understand shit, and probably be more depressed on the end, but that's just a side effect. In many ways, it does really make you think different about the fnaf movie and this is actually not a joke, disco elysium changed the way I see art in the first place, in many ways it's unfair to compair disco to most videogames, since disco tries to be much, much more
The game currently is on a weird legal ground, basically the developpers dont get any money, so it's morably justifiable to it over the seven seas, so feel free to do so if you want to give this masterpiece a try, there is a 2 hour video by people make games where they try breaking it down, nothing about disco elysium can be simple it seems
I haven't really touched much on the actual message of disco elysium, honesly I feel all of this falls short. but I think it's just clear why, you could try watching one of those video analysis but I dont promise you will understand much after you watch two different ones
i have actually played it myself, though from what i've seen and heard (including this), i've barely scratched the surface of what it has to offer. i've only gone through one playthrough so far, which i went into almost completely blind and with the goal of doing whatever i felt like doing, which turned out to be solving the case and prying for as much information as i could. i got called a human can opener several times lol
my feelings about the game are pretty straightforward tbh. to me, it feels like a discussion. like i'm engaging in a conversation with the game and its narrarative, if that makes sense. and like any discussion, it hinges on the dynamic between both parties
i guess a more flowery description of what you've already said
it sucks that the devs got screwed over though, cause they've made something unlike any other game i've played, and in the best way possible. i can easily say it's one of my favorite pieces of media as a whole
Topic Starter
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
Topic Starter
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
In fact yes, it's sort of a tech demo turned into a film. It's a collection of experimental shorts put together to make a feature-length film. The film was only released direct-to-video and was considered lost media till 2015 when a LaserDisc copy was found and ripped (that's the version ed to youtube).Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
I tried looking for other feature-length pixel art films but I can't seem to find one. I'm impressed that no one made a new film in pixel-art in more than 35 years, and even taking into the technological limitations of the era. (Also, I'm impressed this movie is so obscure given the rise of 80's aesthetics. This is THE waporwave movie)
It was an impressive feat but... yeah... it's a 7/10 for me at most.
Topic Starter
I assume it's just really difficult and not that worth it to really do pixel art films, the aesthetic is fine but I personally prefeer other types of more commonly used animationeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
In fact yes, it's sort of a tech demo turned into a film. It's a collection of experimental shorts put together to make a feature-length film. The film was only released direct-to-video and was considered lost media till 2015 when a LaserDisc copy was found and ripped (that's the version ed to youtube).Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Flying Luna Clipper
surprisignly little I have to say about this. The art is interesting, reminds me of old point and click games. If I correctly EBLF said this was the first ever full length pixel art movie, and it would make sense. There isn't really a plot or anything, this just feels like a tech demo for this type of animation and that's about it. The voice acting is bad but there is almost no dialogue in the movie so lol
next: children of men
I tried looking for other feature-length pixel art films but I can't seem to find one. I'm impressed that no one made a new film in pixel-art in more than 35 years, and even taking into the technological limitations of the era. (Also, I'm impressed this movie is so obscure given the rise of 80's aesthetics. This is THE waporwave movie)
It was an impressive feat but... yeah... it's a 7/10 for me at most.
Jangsoodlor
bro redacted harder than the FBI. This anime is maybe one of the few that do time skip in a matter of years. From when the main cast are kids, then growing up and become adult. That alone is a great feat I thinkPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
Topic Starter
yeah, that element really reminded me of clannad, it was cool to seeJangsoodlor wrote: 616554
bro redacted harder than the FBI. This anime is maybe one of the few that do time skip in a matter of years. From when the main cast are kids, then growing up and become adult. That alone is a great feat I thinkPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
Shinsekai yori:
pretty good anime, I definitively liked the first half more than the second half tho
the setting for this anime is pretty unique, as it's like a fantasy dystopia world. The story follows this direction too, from the start of the anime it's like these teenagers who discover the true nature about the world and seem like they want to do something about it, typical dystopia stuff
for the first half, it's mainly a mistery anime, of trying to piece all this information to know how this world was created and stuff like that. However, there is as change of direction, whiel the first episodes are clearly mistery based, the more the anime goes on, it moves from mistery to pure drama
this is my biggest complain with the anime really, the start really got me interested in the world and stuff, but by the end of the anime and mainly about the drama surrounding the conflict between certain nations and species, which I think it's a bit of a shame (and also my favourite characters basically got killed off so it made me a bit less interested)
however even at the end of the anime it does feature soem interesting ideas, mainly about how the psychic powers corrupted society and they ended up kinda just transforming the people that did not have power into another species so they could be racist torwards them, however, not all of the world-building makes total sense
mainly with the idea of them banning electricity, I don't really know how electricity would challenge their dominant place in the world. I just dont think that part made much sense
while it is a dystopia, the way the dystopai operates is so unlike anything that could happen in the real world. Not by the idea of powers but by the way it is politically constructed, so it sadly doesn't really go in depth about anything very much
In a way I jsut feel this anime is doing multiple contradictory things so while it is entretaining it's really failing to be anything more like that, the mistery is brought up but kinda dropped, the drama isn't as impactful as it maybe should be, and the world-building goes in a different direction to both the mistery and the drama, also in the ending nothing that big is solved, stuff just go back as it was in the beginning, which is not really that great.
next: The Flying Luna Clipper
still playing rain code
Do Dragon's Lair!
Topic Starter
the cdi looking videogame?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z
Do Dragon's Lair!
Topic Starter
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It's not just an immigration crisis, the whole country (and basically the whole world) turned into an authoritarian nightmare because of the infertility thing. That's why the characters have to go through a lot of shit, immigration is just one part of it, it just seems more important because they go through a refugee camp.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It also very lightly touches on issues like climate crisis and a few other things.
There's also a lot of references to actual events (like the Abu Ghraib torture) as well as cultural references, you'll necessarily miss some but the ones you see really help make the movie more relevant imo.
Honestly I didn't get all of it the first time I watched, but a youtube channel I follow made a video about it and after rewatching a lot of it made more sense.
This video about it is fine
Next movie you should watch: Mr. Nobody
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I know the consequences of the inmmigration thing and how britain is the only place that really stands and whatever, however it just feels like ah "oh that just happened lol", and just doing refence to something isn't going in depth on that. I with oshi no ko that really had that issue where it took just real life events and stuff and kinda just put them without really saying anything about it. A reference or something being inspired by a real world event is just setting, not plot. I still don't really think that if you're just using that plot as purely world-building, which is what it is, I don't think it should take half the movie you could have used to explore the other half of the movieKarmine wrote: 4x3m25
It's not just an immigration crisis, the whole country (and basically the whole world) turned into an authoritarian nightmare because of the infertility thing. That's why the characters have to go through a lot of shit, immigration is just one part of it, it just seems more important because they go through a refugee camp.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Children of men
Before I start saying anything, I love older movies that goes like THE WORLD WILL END IN 2027 or how the original blade runner movie happened in 2019, this is one of those movies
I liked this movie, but I liked it in the same I liked contagion, it's really nothing too special, but it's an entreteining watch.
First of all, the cinematography of this movie is absolutely amazing, all the shots are so good, the acting is great, this was probably the best part of the movie, it's a really cool movie to actually watch and see all the enviroments and stuff. While the setting itself is basically just 2006, all the protest the movie has, the surprise attacks, and all of that are just amazingly made
However, I do have some issues with the plot, as it felt very unfocussed and I don't really know what to think about it.
Thing is, it's 2027, and the world is going to end soon as apparently everyone has become infertile, no one knows how, it just happened. And there just happens to be a pregnant woman somehow, and it's the protagonist duty to really protect her, so similar-ish plot to lisa the painful
that plot is fairly unique and it's cool, however, the movie is more focused talking about the immigration crisis than anything else, which on itself is also a fine plot, however, these two plots doesn't really overlap much, it only really answer the question on why they just dont go to a hospital and creates a bit more action in the world (which justification in the movie was also kinda weak IMO). The actual conflict is not explored much, it's just something that happens on the protagonist daily life, so I just dont really know if I like that half of the movie was dedicated to just the protagonist running into problems because the immigration crisis when you aren't really saying anything relevant about it, cutting time away from the pregnant woman plot where it's again not really explored much
In a way the plot only exists to create a movie with sick ass cimetagrophy, which is fine on itself. I fucking love RRR, the plot itself is like completely nonsensical but holy fuck those were some good scenes. However, children of men doesn't go nearly as hard and truly tries to put EVERYTHING into just cool cinematography as RRR does, it still tries to be serious, which I just don't think it works, either you explore your plot more or you go the RRR route.
Still a fun watch
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next: Boogiepop 2019
still playing rain code
also i'm probably going to update the queue in this thread to give a direct link to each specific post where I analyze a certain thing given how long this thread is currently
It also very lightly touches on issues like climate crisis and a few other things.
There's also a lot of references to actual events (like the Abu Ghraib torture) as well as cultural references, you'll necessarily miss some but the ones you see really help make the movie more relevant imo.
Honestly I didn't get all of it the first time I watched, but a youtube channel I follow made a video about it and after rewatching a lot of it made more sense.
Next movie you should watch: Mr. Nobody
will watch mr nobody
YeahPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
the cdi looking videogame?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z
Do Dragon's Lair!
the one time OP delivers, and it's massive
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will doMaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z
YeahPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
the cdi looking videogame?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote: 4l614z
Do Dragon's Lair!
edit: I updated the queue with links to every post
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Boogiepop and Others (2019):
pretty enjoyable watch, pretty standard mistery manga that tries to explore some deeper more philosophical elements
however, while I do think the mistery elements work pretty well, I don't think it goes deep enough or crazy enough with it's philosophy to really be anything that special. It's just a philosophical undertone more than it being the entire point like with something like kino no tabi.
Now, other than that, I just dont thinks anime is overall that special, as I said it was pretty standard, so I don't really have that much to say about it, the OST is great (the opening is a BANGER), art is overall fine, etc
it's just a nice watch, I really don't have almost anything to say about it, I just feel completely neutral torwards this anime
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next: Boogiepop Phantom (2000)
still playing rain code as it's a 82382382 hour long RPG and yeah i'm going to die before I finish this game
pretty enjoyable watch, pretty standard mistery manga that tries to explore some deeper more philosophical elements
however, while I do think the mistery elements work pretty well, I don't think it goes deep enough or crazy enough with it's philosophy to really be anything that special. It's just a philosophical undertone more than it being the entire point like with something like kino no tabi.
Now, other than that, I just dont thinks anime is overall that special, as I said it was pretty standard, so I don't really have that much to say about it, the OST is great (the opening is a BANGER), art is overall fine, etc
it's just a nice watch, I really don't have almost anything to say about it, I just feel completely neutral torwards this anime
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next: Boogiepop Phantom (2000)
still playing rain code as it's a 82382382 hour long RPG and yeah i'm going to die before I finish this game
As most LN adaptations, stuff is either scrubbed or incomplete when adapted to anime, and adding to this, the anime adapts just 4 of the 24 novels reased so far (not counting spin-offs). The 2000 anime is an original story taking place between the 1st and 2nd arc of the 2019 anime, with a vastly different atmosphere.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Boogiepop and Others (2019):
pretty enjoyable watch, pretty standard mistery manga that tries to explore some deeper more philosophical elements
however, while I do think the mistery elements work pretty well, I don't think it goes deep enough or crazy enough with it's philosophy to really be anything that special. It's just a philosophical undertone more than it being the entire point like with something like kino no tabi.
Now, other than that, I just dont thinks anime is overall that special, as I said it was pretty standard, so I don't really have that much to say about it, the OST is great (the opening is a BANGER), art is overall fine, etc
it's just a nice watch, I really don't have almost anything to say about it, I just feel completely neutral torwards this anime
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Either way, I like the concept of "antiheroine trying to save depressed teenagers while reality starts to break apart". And I really like the fact how Boogiepop tackles such philosophical topics not from a cynical way but rather with a more optimistic and hopeful manner.
weird plot sounds cooleblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
As most LN adaptations, stuff is either scrubbed or incomplete when adapted to anime, and adding to this, the anime adapts just 4 of the 24 novels reased so far (not counting spin-offs). The 2000 anime is an original story taking place between the 1st and 2nd arc of the 2019 anime, with a vastly different atmosphere.Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
Boogiepop and Others (2019):
pretty enjoyable watch, pretty standard mistery manga that tries to explore some deeper more philosophical elements
however, while I do think the mistery elements work pretty well, I don't think it goes deep enough or crazy enough with it's philosophy to really be anything that special. It's just a philosophical undertone more than it being the entire point like with something like kino no tabi.
Now, other than that, I just dont thinks anime is overall that special, as I said it was pretty standard, so I don't really have that much to say about it, the OST is great (the opening is a BANGER), art is overall fine, etc
it's just a nice watch, I really don't have almost anything to say about it, I just feel completely neutral torwards this anime
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Either way, I like the concept of "antiheroine trying to save depressed teenagers while reality starts to break apart". And I really like the fact how Boogiepop tackles such philosophical topics not from a cynical way but rather with a more optimistic and hopeful manner.
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boogiepop phantom (2000)
I enjoyed this more than 2019 but it's not that much better, it for sure is a lot better in the sound design department and the overall aesthetic of the show. I love when animes mix real images in but hyper edited, I think it works well for this too. I'm aware the fact that every shot was so dark and the usage of these images is probably because they wanted to reduce budgets, but given how the anime is, it works
as I said earlier, the sound is a lot better, the OST is really fucking strange, which makes it a lot more memorable than in 2019. I personally enjoyed it the OST but I feel a lot of people will hate it LMAO
the one element I think 2019 does better is the actual story-telling, while 2000 starts fairly strong, I feel the later chapters aren't as exciting as the first ones, the whole philosophy thing is expanded less than in 2019 IMO, it just feels like a paranormal mistery, more than it having any weight behind the words that the character say
That was also a problem that I had with 2019 but it felt less like that, and I honestly would blame it, not on the adaptation, but the actual source material, (I want to say, I have NOT read the novels) as it's very hard to really make that mistake twice. Even in kino no tabi, which has recieved two big adaptations in 2003 and 2017, while the 2017 version is less over the top and philosophical, you can still feel that energy in the actual story beats, with boogiepop, not so much.
The actual mistery part of the anime is also fairly weak, and that is (this also kinda happened in 2019), they don't really know how to end arcs? They can make interesting characters and situation, but I feel they fail on actually developing them. The character is there, you have an idea, but then you fail at saying anything particulary interesting. This is most aparent with the last chapter, the last chapter of boogiepop 2000 is probably one of the least exciting finales i've seen in any mistery anime.
I still enjoyed the anime, but It's just an enjoyable watch, nothing more, nothing else
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next: mr nobody
i'm going to die before I finish rain code, may consider stopping playing it for a bit and do dragon's lair first or something
I enjoyed this more than 2019 but it's not that much better, it for sure is a lot better in the sound design department and the overall aesthetic of the show. I love when animes mix real images in but hyper edited, I think it works well for this too. I'm aware the fact that every shot was so dark and the usage of these images is probably because they wanted to reduce budgets, but given how the anime is, it works
as I said earlier, the sound is a lot better, the OST is really fucking strange, which makes it a lot more memorable than in 2019. I personally enjoyed it the OST but I feel a lot of people will hate it LMAO
the one element I think 2019 does better is the actual story-telling, while 2000 starts fairly strong, I feel the later chapters aren't as exciting as the first ones, the whole philosophy thing is expanded less than in 2019 IMO, it just feels like a paranormal mistery, more than it having any weight behind the words that the character say
That was also a problem that I had with 2019 but it felt less like that, and I honestly would blame it, not on the adaptation, but the actual source material, (I want to say, I have NOT read the novels) as it's very hard to really make that mistake twice. Even in kino no tabi, which has recieved two big adaptations in 2003 and 2017, while the 2017 version is less over the top and philosophical, you can still feel that energy in the actual story beats, with boogiepop, not so much.
The actual mistery part of the anime is also fairly weak, and that is (this also kinda happened in 2019), they don't really know how to end arcs? They can make interesting characters and situation, but I feel they fail on actually developing them. The character is there, you have an idea, but then you fail at saying anything particulary interesting. This is most aparent with the last chapter, the last chapter of boogiepop 2000 is probably one of the least exciting finales i've seen in any mistery anime.
I still enjoyed the anime, but It's just an enjoyable watch, nothing more, nothing else
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next: mr nobody
i'm going to die before I finish rain code, may consider stopping playing it for a bit and do dragon's lair first or something
it took me nearly a month to beat it, and that's not including the DLC. don't rush it!! very very long game!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
i'm going to die before I finish rain code, may consider stopping playing it for a bit and do dragon's lair first or something
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mr nobody:
First of all, this movie is pretty original. It's about the life of this kid, and the different timelines and possibilities that life could have taken. In order for the movie to do this, and for it to have an overarching plot there is a sci-fi plot connecting it all.
first of all, the OST is a banger, there are so many good songs in this movie. The cinematography and acting is pretty good IMO too.
The actual life and things are pretty cool, I don't have any problem with that. IOn my opinion, it looks like the idea for a movie where you just see 3 timelines of the same character life was the main idea. The only real problem I have with this movie is the sci-fi elements, which on itself works fine, however I don't know how well it works in conjuction with the non sci-fi part
the movie is kinda is hard to understand, and while the ovearching plot does fine in connecting all of the stories, I don't really believe it really explores it much. It explores more the concept of living multiple lifes than the actual consequences of each action. Which isn't bad on itself, I just would have prefeered to be the opposite
I just think it would have worked better if it was just a little easier to understand, because there is truly material here that is worth digging into, it's just hard to get into it
now, what does the movie actually have to say about choices? From my opinion and what I understand, that there really isn't a wrong way to live a life other than to stop living. Living in this context means the actual act of living in conjuction with having new experiences and enjoying yourself.
The way the movie illustrates this point is by in the sci-fi elements, a cure for aging was found, however, in the process for everyone living together it seems like everyone starting living a very homogeneous life, a lot of things are anned, and society as a whole seems to believe that there really one choice, and one right way to live life, this according to our protagonist, isn't really living
Our protagonist is like the complete opposite of that, living 3 contradictory lifes, and being proved right (kinda?) at the end of the movie
And that sometimes those things are out of control. That life changing decisions can be altered by just someone random boiling an egg. However, the fact that some things are out of our control doesn't mean we should give up in life, your choices do matter. It's just kinda hard to predict sometimes, and sometimes, not making a choice is a choice on itself
about the scientific shit honestly I have no clue
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update: still need to finish rain code, wont rush it
next: there isn't actually any more movies/anime I have to watch, suprising, i'm free to watch whatever I want until in 2 hours when a new request comes
First of all, this movie is pretty original. It's about the life of this kid, and the different timelines and possibilities that life could have taken. In order for the movie to do this, and for it to have an overarching plot there is a sci-fi plot connecting it all.
first of all, the OST is a banger, there are so many good songs in this movie. The cinematography and acting is pretty good IMO too.
The actual life and things are pretty cool, I don't have any problem with that. IOn my opinion, it looks like the idea for a movie where you just see 3 timelines of the same character life was the main idea. The only real problem I have with this movie is the sci-fi elements, which on itself works fine, however I don't know how well it works in conjuction with the non sci-fi part
the movie is kinda is hard to understand, and while the ovearching plot does fine in connecting all of the stories, I don't really believe it really explores it much. It explores more the concept of living multiple lifes than the actual consequences of each action. Which isn't bad on itself, I just would have prefeered to be the opposite
I just think it would have worked better if it was just a little easier to understand, because there is truly material here that is worth digging into, it's just hard to get into it
now, what does the movie actually have to say about choices? From my opinion and what I understand, that there really isn't a wrong way to live a life other than to stop living. Living in this context means the actual act of living in conjuction with having new experiences and enjoying yourself.
The way the movie illustrates this point is by in the sci-fi elements, a cure for aging was found, however, in the process for everyone living together it seems like everyone starting living a very homogeneous life, a lot of things are anned, and society as a whole seems to believe that there really one choice, and one right way to live life, this according to our protagonist, isn't really living
Our protagonist is like the complete opposite of that, living 3 contradictory lifes, and being proved right (kinda?) at the end of the movie
And that sometimes those things are out of control. That life changing decisions can be altered by just someone random boiling an egg. However, the fact that some things are out of our control doesn't mean we should give up in life, your choices do matter. It's just kinda hard to predict sometimes, and sometimes, not making a choice is a choice on itself
about the scientific shit honestly I have no clue
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update: still need to finish rain code, wont rush it
next: there isn't actually any more movies/anime I have to watch, suprising, i'm free to watch whatever I want until in 2 hours when a new request comes
Well, guess it's time to tell the potato to watch Niea_7
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/800/NieA_Under_7
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/800/NieA_Under_7
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will doeblf2013 wrote: 3l2l1q
Well, guess it's time to tell the potato to watch Niea_7
https://osu-ppy-sh.tvgratuite.org/anime/800/NieA_Under_7
rhythm game cant really analyzez0z wrote: z232j
requesting rhythm doctor (steam)
I really didn't want to watch this one but since I'm faithful to this thread I have to give it an honest try nowReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
Watch onimai (the anime)
I pretty much agree with you, the sci-fi stuff is kinda weird but it is sort of necessary for the end to work I guess?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
mr nobody:
First of all, this movie is pretty original. It's about the life of this kid, and the different timelines and possibilities that life could have taken. In order for the movie to do this, and for it to have an overarching plot there is a sci-fi plot connecting it all.
first of all, the OST is a banger, there are so many good songs in this movie. The cinematography and acting is pretty good IMO too.
The actual life and things are pretty cool, I don't have any problem with that. IOn my opinion, it looks like the idea for a movie where you just see 3 timelines of the same character life was the main idea. The only real problem I have with this movie is the sci-fi elements, which on itself works fine, however I don't know how well it works in conjuction with the non sci-fi part
the movie is kinda is hard to understand, and while the ovearching plot does fine in connecting all of the stories, I don't really believe it really explores it much. It explores more the concept of living multiple lifes than the actual consequences of each action. Which isn't bad on itself, I just would have prefeered to be the opposite
I just think it would have worked better if it was just a little easier to understand, because there is truly material here that is worth digging into, it's just hard to get into it
now, what does the movie actually have to say about choices? From my opinion and what I understand, that there really isn't a wrong way to live a life other than to stop living. Living in this context means the actual act of living in conjuction with having new experiences and enjoying yourself.
The way the movie illustrates this point is by in the sci-fi elements, a cure for aging was found, however, in the process for everyone living together it seems like everyone starting living a very homogeneous life, a lot of things are anned, and society as a whole seems to believe that there really one choice, and one right way to live life, this according to our protagonist, isn't really living
Our protagonist is like the complete opposite of that, living 3 contradictory lifes, and being proved right (kinda?) at the end of the movie
And that sometimes those things are out of control. That life changing decisions can be altered by just someone random boiling an egg. However, the fact that some things are out of our control doesn't mean we should give up in life, your choices do matter. It's just kinda hard to predict sometimes, and sometimes, not making a choice is a choice on itself
about the scientific shit honestly I have no clue
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update: still need to finish rain code, wont rush it
next: there isn't actually any more movies/anime I have to watch, suprising, i'm free to watch whatever I want until in 2 hours when a new request comes
You're a monsterReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
I knew you wouldnt like it thats why i said that one lmao
My next request: Macross
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never heard of it but looks cool, will add to the listKarmine wrote: 4x3m25
I pretty much agree with you, the sci-fi stuff is kinda weird but it is sort of necessary for the end to work I guess?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
mr nobody:
First of all, this movie is pretty original. It's about the life of this kid, and the different timelines and possibilities that life could have taken. In order for the movie to do this, and for it to have an overarching plot there is a sci-fi plot connecting it all.
first of all, the OST is a banger, there are so many good songs in this movie. The cinematography and acting is pretty good IMO too.
The actual life and things are pretty cool, I don't have any problem with that. IOn my opinion, it looks like the idea for a movie where you just see 3 timelines of the same character life was the main idea. The only real problem I have with this movie is the sci-fi elements, which on itself works fine, however I don't know how well it works in conjuction with the non sci-fi part
the movie is kinda is hard to understand, and while the ovearching plot does fine in connecting all of the stories, I don't really believe it really explores it much. It explores more the concept of living multiple lifes than the actual consequences of each action. Which isn't bad on itself, I just would have prefeered to be the opposite
I just think it would have worked better if it was just a little easier to understand, because there is truly material here that is worth digging into, it's just hard to get into it
now, what does the movie actually have to say about choices? From my opinion and what I understand, that there really isn't a wrong way to live a life other than to stop living. Living in this context means the actual act of living in conjuction with having new experiences and enjoying yourself.
The way the movie illustrates this point is by in the sci-fi elements, a cure for aging was found, however, in the process for everyone living together it seems like everyone starting living a very homogeneous life, a lot of things are anned, and society as a whole seems to believe that there really one choice, and one right way to live life, this according to our protagonist, isn't really living
Our protagonist is like the complete opposite of that, living 3 contradictory lifes, and being proved right (kinda?) at the end of the movie
And that sometimes those things are out of control. That life changing decisions can be altered by just someone random boiling an egg. However, the fact that some things are out of our control doesn't mean we should give up in life, your choices do matter. It's just kinda hard to predict sometimes, and sometimes, not making a choice is a choice on itself
about the scientific shit honestly I have no clue
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update: still need to finish rain code, wont rush it
next: there isn't actually any more movies/anime I have to watch, suprising, i'm free to watch whatever I want until in 2 hours when a new request comes
You're a monsterReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
I knew you wouldnt like it thats why i said that one lmao
My next request: Macross
edit: wait reyalp, I thought you were saying a different anime, kinda mixed names on my head. I HAVE read the manga for Onimai: I'm Now Your Sister!, does that work for you?, I don't really like watching the adaptations for stuff i've already read
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... I have already watched it as a joke with friends, also the CENSORED version, realized there was an uncensored version like a year later, I do not have it listed on myanimelist for obvious reasons but you're going to have to trust me on thisReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
A shit nevermind go watch ishuzoku reviwers
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NieA Under 7
cute slice of life/comedy which turns into a drama by the end, liked it
the animation style is great, it has some very stylized segments, chapter 13 is completley full of those sections which really makes this anime stand-up visually compared to the rest
I do feel you can split this anime into two sections, the comedy part and the more drama part
starting with the comedy part, (which I think lasts until chapter 8 or so idk didn't really pay attention to the chapter number), the anime is just about this girl who lives with a freeloader alien who loves food. (Aliens are normal in this world). The comedy just reminds me a lot of jashin-chan but less over the top as this was a 2000s anime without a large budget.
The point of this section (or at least what I interpet it being), is just for you to grow familiar with the cast of characters, and the situation, and if you notice, it slowly goes and introduce ideas and problems that will later be expanded in the drama section
for chapters 9 to 13, the anime kinda does drop a lot of the comedy aspect, and focuses mostly on the life situation of our protagonists. Having to resolve difficult problems, and becoming a better and stronger person by it. Even if it's two fairly different styles (given the two absolute extremes on this genre, you would have yuru camp/nichijou on the first section, and yomawari-sensei in the other extreme). The way it transitions is really invisible. It flows super well, and it really takes advantage of things that were foreshadowed or mentioned in the past
the anime never reaches to be like absolutely heartbreaking or anything, it is just more emotional than jashin-chan, which I mentioned earlier. I do think this is a pretty good anime, and if you kinda just want a nice little slice of life to watch and enjoy, this is good
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next: macross
haven't made any progress on rain code as i'm just playing planescape torment
cute slice of life/comedy which turns into a drama by the end, liked it
the animation style is great, it has some very stylized segments, chapter 13 is completley full of those sections which really makes this anime stand-up visually compared to the rest
I do feel you can split this anime into two sections, the comedy part and the more drama part
starting with the comedy part, (which I think lasts until chapter 8 or so idk didn't really pay attention to the chapter number), the anime is just about this girl who lives with a freeloader alien who loves food. (Aliens are normal in this world). The comedy just reminds me a lot of jashin-chan but less over the top as this was a 2000s anime without a large budget.
The point of this section (or at least what I interpet it being), is just for you to grow familiar with the cast of characters, and the situation, and if you notice, it slowly goes and introduce ideas and problems that will later be expanded in the drama section
for chapters 9 to 13, the anime kinda does drop a lot of the comedy aspect, and focuses mostly on the life situation of our protagonists. Having to resolve difficult problems, and becoming a better and stronger person by it. Even if it's two fairly different styles (given the two absolute extremes on this genre, you would have yuru camp/nichijou on the first section, and yomawari-sensei in the other extreme). The way it transitions is really invisible. It flows super well, and it really takes advantage of things that were foreshadowed or mentioned in the past
the anime never reaches to be like absolutely heartbreaking or anything, it is just more emotional than jashin-chan, which I mentioned earlier. I do think this is a pretty good anime, and if you kinda just want a nice little slice of life to watch and enjoy, this is good
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next: macross
haven't made any progress on rain code as i'm just playing planescape torment
Jangsoodlor
watch Angel Beats!
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yeah sureJangsoodlor wrote: 616554
watch Angel Beats!
it has a story though, act 5 came out a while agoPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
rhythm game cant really analyzez0z wrote: z232j
requesting rhythm doctor (steam)
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i'm aware, however it's just so basic that it's not really on the same level as anything on here, it's more focused on making fun level and introducing mechanics179bpm wrote: i2b3t
it has a story though, act 5 came out a while agoPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
rhythm game cant really analyzez0z wrote: z232j
requesting rhythm doctor (steam)
i think you can rate how well it does that and the storyPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
i'm aware, however it's just so basic that it's not really on the same level as anything on here, it's more focused on making fun level and introducing mechanics179bpm wrote: i2b3t
it has a story though, act 5 came out a while agoPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
rhythm game cant really analyzez0z wrote: z232j
requesting rhythm doctor (steam)
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yeah I could try that however no promises I will go on with it, I have too much shit I want to play lmao
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
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okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
ok have you read tokyo ghoul already?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
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wait was tokyo ghoul requested? I actually don't fuckReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
ok have you read tokyo ghoul already?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
i was just asking to request itPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
wait was tokyo ghoul requested? I actually don't fuckReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
ok have you read tokyo ghoul already?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
Topic Starter
yeah I haven't read tokyo ghoul, my brother did and fucking despises it so it's going to be a funny readReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
i was just asking to request itPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
wait was tokyo ghoul requested? I actually don't fuckReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
ok have you read tokyo ghoul already?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
coolPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
yeah I haven't read tokyo ghoul, my brother did and fucking despises it so it's going to be a funny readReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
i was just asking to request itPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
wait was tokyo ghoul requested? I actually don't fuckReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
ok have you read tokyo ghoul already?Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:Serraionga wrote: 2l6i67
play the new super mario rpg remake that is coming out tomorrow
i'm also gonna be playing it after work and after the good ol' siesta MMMMMMMMMM Yes,
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
We Must Go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!!!!!!!!! CONSOOM MY DEAR PATATITTA!!! CONSOOM!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!111ONEPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
i'm actually not that knowledgeable on manga/anime so i can only suggest videojugables. i watching doraemon, death note and initial d a very, very long time ago (doraemon was even broadcasted on TV when i was a kid, those were fun times)
recently i was recommended by someone to use an app called CloudStream which is allegedly very good/not a pain in the ass to use for watching anime and i'll probably be using that to watch some of the things that have been requested here. hopefully i'll be able to fit in the time lolllllllllll
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tbf, regular movies or books also works for me, i'm not really complaining about having a long list, i'm just saying that you're going to have to wait 4 monthsSerraionga wrote: 2l6i67
We Must Go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!!!!!!!!!! CONSOOM MY DEAR PATATITTA!!! CONSOOM!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!111ONEPatatitta wrote: 4y1w
okay not really blaming anyone on here, however:
I have 2 animes to watch
0 things to read
four 30+ hour games + another one that idk how long it is
will add to the list even if I have already seen someone play the original over discord so it's not particullary exciting for me
i'm actually not that knowledgeable on manga/anime so i can only suggest videojugables. i watching doraemon, death note and initial d a very, very long time ago (doraemon was even broadcasted on TV when i was a kid, those were fun times)
recently i was recommended by someone to use an app called CloudStream which is allegedly very good/not a pain in the ass to use for watching anime and i'll probably be using that to watch some of the things that have been requested here. hopefully i'll be able to fit in the time lolllllllllll
that is fine, i can wait. take it easy!!!!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
tbf, regular movies or books also works for me, i'm not really complaining about having a long list, i'm just saying that you're going to have to wait 4 months
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I have a friend who really got into hamilton so yeah I don't oppose this, will watchtrain wrote: 2o5a4n
Review Hamilton (musical)
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I will be reading the manga, is that ok?Rigbyuis wrote: 432j2r
hokuto no ken review with the words sigma and ohio pls
bump
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I was going to bump this myself anyways when I finished reading stuff, just dont flood the front page so this doesn't happen dude, only post in the threads you care about pleaseAnaxii wrote: 61215b
bump
alright!Patatitta wrote: 4y1w
I was going to bump this myself anyways when I finished reading stuff, just dont flood the front page so this doesn't happen dude, only post in the threads you care about pleaseAnaxii wrote: 61215b
bump
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Macross:
The only mecha anime i've really seen is evangelion. I don't really know anything about the genre. I decided go tie macross a try since it was recommended here, and i'm sorry to say, idk if this anime in particular is just my thing. watched the first 3 episodes and I really didn't get invested into it, so I decided to not erally continue it any further. Not a big fan of action, or militarry things, and not really invested into mecha, so yeah, sorry. Delayed this post since idk if I would continue it or not as it was not bad, it just didn't get into it
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Angel Beats!
I've known of this anime for the longest time just on name alone, however, I thought it was a random idols anime or something, however, recently a friend of mine watched me and told that it was in fact not an anime about idols. And now that it got requested, I watched it
it was actually very nice, over the top school anime with a gimmick, it works great, however, the anime mainly starts to really become really good near the end
the idea of the anime is that they're on some sort of afterlife, which takes the form of a high school (it's an anime, of course the afterlife is a high school), the initial premise is that everyone in the world don't really have a soul except them that they have freedom of choice. And they're trying to defeat another high school girl since they tried to keep order in the afterlife, which our protagonist sees as an enemie
That arc on itself isn't the most exciting, each episode they have a different plan to defeat this girl and it's just fun. However, it seems that all of this arc, which last for more for half the anime, is jsut mainly world-building and developing characters. In the great twist of the anime it turns out that this character (named angel btw) isn't bad and is just trying to help people live their best lifes, since the goal of the afterlife (and the reason why it's a highschool), is that this world just helps people who percieved their real lifes to be bad to really feel free and accomplish things before moving on to the next life
I really enjoyed this concept a lot, it really makes sense that it had that slice of life-ish first arc to set everything up. It's not a new idea or anything, it's just executed really well. The slice of life setting and the really exagerated and over the top ideas and chapter plots really allow for each of the characters personality to show through, personality which was defined by their previous experiences in life, which in most cases include: their previous life.
The actual finale is just all the characters who hasn't moved on to the true afterlife yet to come to that realization of the world and it's just a very emotional scene, honestly the ending for angel beats is like peak high school anime IMO
honestly, just a fun and surprising emotional high school anime, really liekd it
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updates: haven't played rain code in a while due to me trying to beat planescape torment sorry
tokyo ghoul isn't actually that bad, i'm going to be able to finish it without dropping it, which was more than I expected tbh
next: Hamilton (musical)
The only mecha anime i've really seen is evangelion. I don't really know anything about the genre. I decided go tie macross a try since it was recommended here, and i'm sorry to say, idk if this anime in particular is just my thing. watched the first 3 episodes and I really didn't get invested into it, so I decided to not erally continue it any further. Not a big fan of action, or militarry things, and not really invested into mecha, so yeah, sorry. Delayed this post since idk if I would continue it or not as it was not bad, it just didn't get into it
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Angel Beats!
I've known of this anime for the longest time just on name alone, however, I thought it was a random idols anime or something, however, recently a friend of mine watched me and told that it was in fact not an anime about idols. And now that it got requested, I watched it
it was actually very nice, over the top school anime with a gimmick, it works great, however, the anime mainly starts to really become really good near the end
the idea of the anime is that they're on some sort of afterlife, which takes the form of a high school (it's an anime, of course the afterlife is a high school), the initial premise is that everyone in the world don't really have a soul except them that they have freedom of choice. And they're trying to defeat another high school girl since they tried to keep order in the afterlife, which our protagonist sees as an enemie
That arc on itself isn't the most exciting, each episode they have a different plan to defeat this girl and it's just fun. However, it seems that all of this arc, which last for more for half the anime, is jsut mainly world-building and developing characters. In the great twist of the anime it turns out that this character (named angel btw) isn't bad and is just trying to help people live their best lifes, since the goal of the afterlife (and the reason why it's a highschool), is that this world just helps people who percieved their real lifes to be bad to really feel free and accomplish things before moving on to the next life
I really enjoyed this concept a lot, it really makes sense that it had that slice of life-ish first arc to set everything up. It's not a new idea or anything, it's just executed really well. The slice of life setting and the really exagerated and over the top ideas and chapter plots really allow for each of the characters personality to show through, personality which was defined by their previous experiences in life, which in most cases include: their previous life.
The actual finale is just all the characters who hasn't moved on to the true afterlife yet to come to that realization of the world and it's just a very emotional scene, honestly the ending for angel beats is like peak high school anime IMO
honestly, just a fun and surprising emotional high school anime, really liekd it
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updates: haven't played rain code in a while due to me trying to beat planescape torment sorry
tokyo ghoul isn't actually that bad, i'm going to be able to finish it without dropping it, which was more than I expected tbh
next: Hamilton (musical)
Sad Macross fan noises
I'm not really into mecha either but I love Macross, binge watching it is a bad idea though, some songs repeat a lot
I'm not really into mecha either but I love Macross, binge watching it is a bad idea though, some songs repeat a lot
oh fuck you are right, i really hope he reviews that game, its fucking hilarioustrain wrote: 2o5a4n
Class of 09 (visual novel thing?)
Just a heads up for class of 09, it is very edgy and I'm not sure if you would like it. Still give it a shot tho
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tokyo ghoul:
I'm going to be honest, I went this with LOW expectations, I was on the mindset of dropping this by volume 2, however, I actually didn't hate it, not that I ended up enjoying it, however it was still better than I expected
With these posts I try to go a little bit further than a review, just talking about certain elements and how the work and why I feel they work, however, it's hard to do that for a work you dislike. So I will be explaining in great detail why I dislike the character of kaneki
Tokyo ghoul is a manga about this random high school guy being bitten by a ghoul, and becoming a ghoul themselves, ghoul are humans that can only really eat other humans, so society hates them and are afraid of them
The first 2 volumes or so are actually very nice, kaneki is just this dude, and they talk about how being a ghoul will change the rest of their life, how they will lose relationships and friendships. Not only that, but they discover that an adult on the school is in fact also a ghoul like them. Kaneki learns trick to live as a ghoul and it's honestly just kinda cool. From this start you can just go in a more drama-focused narrative and it would have been a lot more enjoyable in my opinion
from the way i've read this character, they just seem sad and afraid, they didn't want any of this to happen, however by volume 6 the story has transitioned into mainly being focused on action
And I just don't get why that happens honestly, kaneki isn't following revenge, they are not loyal to the ghouls as they were once a human, they didn't need to fight to survive, kaneki had a lot of options to defuse the rest of manga and just living a normal ghoul life like all of the other ghouls are doing. However, kaneki decides to get involved with this group and start fighting, and I just don't like it. This is the moment wher kaneki jus becomes edgy, they didn't have to fight, yet they decided to do it, and not only that, but without practice, without any training arc, they're already one of the best and most dangerous ghouls. For me it felt kaneki didn't need to be on that position or deserve to that strong
The rest of the manga is honestly a bit of a blur in my brain, it's a lot harder to really focus on a plot when you kinda just give up on it. So I for sure have missed out on a lot of nuance, but they just keep fighting, getting more powerful, and getting edgier
Another complain I have with the manga is the dialogue. There is like 4 pages disscusing the semantics of what half-killing someone means? I know the purpouse of this dialogue is to be kinda intimidating and stuff, however it just felt kinda weird in my opinion and really doesn't improve the character of kaneki.
My problem with kaneki is not the fact that they're trying to be badass, it's that the way they get to that point and the specific type of badass they are it's just kinda painful to read
If you've read ITT2 or shitpost thread you know I've recently watched this other movie called "Harakiri", (1962), the protagonist of that movie is probably the single most badass character i've seen on media, but in harakiri it works, they're that way for a justified reason, the dialogue they deliver is actually incredibly good and makes you think. It's not just badass for the sake of being badass (which is what kaneki feels), it's being badass because being badass helps telling the story and make a more compeling character. (Also please watch harakiri it's like really fucking good and I just mainly did this comparasion to tell people to watch harakiri, trust me, even if it's a black and white film it's incredibly frenetic and it's just amazing)
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hamilton (the musical)
as I explained in my tokyo ghoul analysis, I try to say more than just a review, and gibven this is a musical (which I don't really consume, tis is my first ever time seeing a broadway production!) and the fact that I literally did not know who alexander hamilton was before watchig the analysis, it makes me incredilby unqualified to really say anything substantial about hamilton
now, it was good, they really moved and singed and it was very frenetic and cool. Some jokes went over my head since I literally do not know shit about american history
was really surprised how impressive the actual performance was given this must be played live, but idk if that is just a hamilton thing or a broadway thing
yeah it was just good
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next: class of 09 (Not reading anything rn so even if it's a videogame and I haven't finished the 20 others, i'm counting it more as a book than anything else tbh)
still need to finish rain code
I'm going to be honest, I went this with LOW expectations, I was on the mindset of dropping this by volume 2, however, I actually didn't hate it, not that I ended up enjoying it, however it was still better than I expected
With these posts I try to go a little bit further than a review, just talking about certain elements and how the work and why I feel they work, however, it's hard to do that for a work you dislike. So I will be explaining in great detail why I dislike the character of kaneki
Tokyo ghoul is a manga about this random high school guy being bitten by a ghoul, and becoming a ghoul themselves, ghoul are humans that can only really eat other humans, so society hates them and are afraid of them
The first 2 volumes or so are actually very nice, kaneki is just this dude, and they talk about how being a ghoul will change the rest of their life, how they will lose relationships and friendships. Not only that, but they discover that an adult on the school is in fact also a ghoul like them. Kaneki learns trick to live as a ghoul and it's honestly just kinda cool. From this start you can just go in a more drama-focused narrative and it would have been a lot more enjoyable in my opinion
from the way i've read this character, they just seem sad and afraid, they didn't want any of this to happen, however by volume 6 the story has transitioned into mainly being focused on action
And I just don't get why that happens honestly, kaneki isn't following revenge, they are not loyal to the ghouls as they were once a human, they didn't need to fight to survive, kaneki had a lot of options to defuse the rest of manga and just living a normal ghoul life like all of the other ghouls are doing. However, kaneki decides to get involved with this group and start fighting, and I just don't like it. This is the moment wher kaneki jus becomes edgy, they didn't have to fight, yet they decided to do it, and not only that, but without practice, without any training arc, they're already one of the best and most dangerous ghouls. For me it felt kaneki didn't need to be on that position or deserve to that strong
The rest of the manga is honestly a bit of a blur in my brain, it's a lot harder to really focus on a plot when you kinda just give up on it. So I for sure have missed out on a lot of nuance, but they just keep fighting, getting more powerful, and getting edgier
Another complain I have with the manga is the dialogue. There is like 4 pages disscusing the semantics of what half-killing someone means? I know the purpouse of this dialogue is to be kinda intimidating and stuff, however it just felt kinda weird in my opinion and really doesn't improve the character of kaneki.
My problem with kaneki is not the fact that they're trying to be badass, it's that the way they get to that point and the specific type of badass they are it's just kinda painful to read
If you've read ITT2 or shitpost thread you know I've recently watched this other movie called "Harakiri", (1962), the protagonist of that movie is probably the single most badass character i've seen on media, but in harakiri it works, they're that way for a justified reason, the dialogue they deliver is actually incredibly good and makes you think. It's not just badass for the sake of being badass (which is what kaneki feels), it's being badass because being badass helps telling the story and make a more compeling character. (Also please watch harakiri it's like really fucking good and I just mainly did this comparasion to tell people to watch harakiri, trust me, even if it's a black and white film it's incredibly frenetic and it's just amazing)
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hamilton (the musical)
as I explained in my tokyo ghoul analysis, I try to say more than just a review, and gibven this is a musical (which I don't really consume, tis is my first ever time seeing a broadway production!) and the fact that I literally did not know who alexander hamilton was before watchig the analysis, it makes me incredilby unqualified to really say anything substantial about hamilton
now, it was good, they really moved and singed and it was very frenetic and cool. Some jokes went over my head since I literally do not know shit about american history
was really surprised how impressive the actual performance was given this must be played live, but idk if that is just a hamilton thing or a broadway thing
yeah it was just good
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next: class of 09 (Not reading anything rn so even if it's a videogame and I haven't finished the 20 others, i'm counting it more as a book than anything else tbh)
still need to finish rain code
i was hoping you would like it actually, kanekis multiple personalitys evolving as he gets more knowledge and shit happens to him is really interesting imo, like when the black reaper personality is obssesed with "dying in a cool way" and then kaneki thinking later he was a dumbass for being so obsessed with that and apreciating more life
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I just cant really vouch or care for someone who kinda did all of that to themselves, if they decide to get involved into fights and then gets hurt, I don't really feel bad because they didn't have to fight in the first place. It's just that I really did not enjoy the origin story for kaneki making the rest of the manga fall flatReyalp51 wrote: 6m1t2o
i was hoping you would like it actually, kanekis multiple personalitys evolving as he gets more knowledge and shit happens to him is really interesting imo, like when the black reaper personality is obssesed with "dying in a cool way" and then kaneki thinking later he was a dumbass and stuff
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It's been so long since i've played portal so i'm going to just be talking out of memory here, idk if I will make factual mistakes or notcephaphysic wrote: 406m6w
i can't think of anything else rn, so here's a single character: GLaDOS (portal series)
first of all, we must lay down what portal is. It's a pretty good puzzle game focused on the actual puzzle design and with some comedy sprinkled on top. The plot is pretty secondary to the actual game.
glados is just this robot that runs the puzzle facilities you encounter yourself in. For most of the game they just treat you as a random test subject, teaches you a few mechanics and pushes you go to forward
In the great twist of portal which I won't mark as spoiler because it's fucking portal is that glados just wants to kill you and now you must escape, that segment is fine, but again, is more interesting from a gameplay perspective than from a storytelling perspective
glados just mainly works as a way to make what would if not just be a pretty nice little puzzle game into something more memorable, spawning multiple memes and a couple nice songs, it's not the most interesting character by itself, it just fits perfectly in an already great game
this is kinda unrelated, but this is my one chance to really talk about this and i'm for sure going to take it. But i've seen portal and glados been praised a lot on the past, however, in 2023, I personally feel that we have games like portal but way better, just look at the talos principle. (tbf I didn't finish the game and defaulted to just watching a couple youtube videos about it since I just suck ass at puzzle games but that's not a game issue that's just me being AWFUL at puzzle games and being really frustrated by them, so a skill issue)
Talos principle is portal but bigger and better, and the writting is actually NUTS. I fucking love the dialogue of talos principle, however, when people talk about great characters on puzzle games they mention glados. Not the talos principle
but I don't feel this is limited but just portal, it happens with valve as a company, I feel that people are a lot more sympathetic to valve games for the sake of them being valve games. And given that gabe newell was seen as literally jesus christ in an earlier age of the internet. It does make sense why