{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Nao Tomori<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,078 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Nao Tomori<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:09:10+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n The virgin several paragraph detailed position paper post vs the chad \"I disagree\"<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n osu!taiko Paragon\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,051 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2019<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:14:22+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n @Boaz can you elaborate<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \ua4b0\u2022 \u032b \u2022\ua4b1<\/span><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 587 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:22:35+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I dont really believe this proposal is changing anything and that the aim should be simply to change the wording and clarify that there are alternatives to 3\/2 breaks to make it easier for newer mappers to make good muzukashii difficulties.Using consecutive 1\/1 breaks is already allowed because the break guideline is exactly that, a guideline<\/strong>. This isn't an argument about restructuring allowed breaks for muzukashii. Hivie's proposal is literally only changing the wording to be more specific. Arguing about whether high-bpm maps using 1\/1 are going to break this guideline isn't an issue because it will still be up to BNs to assess the viability of that mapping choice.Probably a good idea to focus on how to reword this proposal because the original post didn't want to completely rework.In that vein, I'm still more in favor of my wording:ikin5050 wrote:<\/h4>At least 1 rest moment that is 3\/2 or longer should be inserted after 16\/1 to 20\/1 of continuous mapping.<\/strong> An exception can be made if the song's structure would lead to counter intuitive 3\/2 rest moments. In this case you can use 3 consecutive 1\/1 length rest moments<\/strong> instead as a substitute.<\/blockquote>Over Hivie's wording Hivie wrote:<\/h4>At least 1 rest moment that is 3\/2 or longer, or at least 3 consecutive rest moments that are 1\/1 should be inserted after 16\/1 to 20\/1 of continuous mapping.<\/strong> Using rest moments less frequently is acceptable if either the pace of the music makes rest moments counter-intuitive or if the continuously mapped part is overall more forgiving to the player.<\/blockquote>Personally the wording highlighting that it is a substitute conveys that you have a choice and should use your judgement about what is best, as well as the subjectivity of this guideline<\/strong> and it being open to interpretation.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n osu!taiko Paragon\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,051 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2019<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:36:05+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n @ikin refer to this as my latest wording revisionHivie wrote:<\/h4>At least 1 rest moment that is 3\/2 or longer should be inserted after 16\/1 to 20\/1 of continuous mapping.<\/strong> Using at least 3 consecutive rest moments that are 1\/1<\/strong> is acceptable if either the pace of the music makes rest moments counter-intuitive or if the continuously mapped part is overall more forgiving to the player.<\/div><\/blockquote>also just saying, I also agree with your wording too, key difference is that mine isn't as assertive, but I'm not completely sure if that's the way forward, so opinions on this matter.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \ua4b0\u2022 \u032b \u2022\ua4b1<\/span><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 587 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:40:45+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n @hivie referred to your latest revisionsuggestion Hivie wrote:<\/h4>Hivie wrote:<\/h4>At least 1 rest moment that is 3\/2 or longer should be inserted after 16\/1 to 20\/1 of continuous mapping.<\/strong> Using at least 3 consecutive rest moments that are 1\/1<\/strong> is ->an acceptable substitute<\/strong><- if either the pace of the music makes rest moments counter-intuitive or if the continuously mapped part is overall more forgiving to the player.<\/div><\/blockquote>also just saying, I also agree with your wording too, key difference is that mine isn't as assertive, but I'm not completely sure if that's the way forward, so opinions on this matter.<\/blockquote>i put little arrows around the thing i changed so u can identify it easily i don't actually want little arrows in the rc.I don't nessacarily think being slightly assertive in the RC is bad as it is meant to literally tell people what to do, but up to interpretation at this point as both wordings convey the same idea.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n osu!taiko Paragon\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/a>\n\n \n <\/i>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,051 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2019<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Hivie<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:41:56+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n ok that's perfect<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \ua4b0\u2022 \u032b \u2022\ua4b1<\/span><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 587 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2014<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ikin5050<\/a>\n\n \n 2022-02-21T19:43:03+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n make sure to include the double quote<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n igorsprite<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 623 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2015<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n igorsprite<\/a>\n\n \n 4b2a3q